/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10221724]

I was just studying IT (computer science) but then I decided to turn that into a dual degree alongside applied math for my ego.

What are some IT jobs that will actually benefit from my math degree?

[Anonymous No.10221762]

>>10221724
IT isnt computer science. Its for computer science dropouts who can't pass math.

[Anonymous No.10221769]

>>10221762
By "IT jobs" I mean anything surrounding computers.

[Anonymous No.10221792]

>>10221724
>IT is computer science
Dijkstra was right. Undergrads should not be allowed to touch computers in CS

[Anonymous No.10221798]

>>10221792
Hahahahaha total cringe. No wonder people on sci are so dumb and poor. Get with the times, college isn’t about education anymore it’s a job training program

[Anonymous No.10221822]

>>10221798
only for your shitty community college

[Anonymous No.10221844]

>>10221798
>be op, 5 years from now
>gaging on his bosses cock cus he said so

[Anonymous No.10221857]

>>10221769
If your curriculum has no math its IT. Computer science degree can get you an IT job but not vice versa. They know you dropped out because of math. You only need certs for IT. Its also not everything with computers but more networking centric or hardware at a very superficial level of troubleshooting. Definitely no programming maybe scripting

[Anonymous No.10221859]

none, congratulations on wasting your time

[Anonymous No.10221865]

>>10221724
> Dual major with math.
> Decided on IT over computer science because you can't pass math.

You're in for a world of pain.

[Anonymous No.10221868]

>>10221724
You're ego is as retarded as your hubris.

[Anonymous No.10221875]

>>10221865
I'm getting a degree in IT (majoring in CS) but felt like there wasn't enough focus on math so I took up a degree in math. Initially this was because I wanted to create 3D simulation software. I've accepted that this requires too much specific knowledge and work that does not translate to a decent return in investment and does not translate to any decent jobs.

My primary interests now are fundamental computer operation, systems programming, firmware and C. I feel as if security is the career to go into but unsure what security career would benefit from math beyond basic understanding of crypto.

I'm worried that I would have been better off doing computer engineering.

[Anonymous No.10221899]

>>10221875
>fundamental computer operation, systems programming, firmware and C
you aren't going to learn any of that with a math degree. you will need to major in CS (not IT) or computer engineering to do that kinda stuff. there are plenty of jobs related to security but my advice to you would depend on what kind of job you want and what aspect of security you want to get into

[Anonymous No.10221950]

>>10221724
>>10221769
>>10221875
Why do you keep saying degree in IT (computer science). The two are very different fields. Computer science already has a hard time being taken seriously by people who are trying their hardest to make it as accessible as an IT degree, so stop dragging it down. The two are completely different fields.

[Anonymous No.10221986]

>>10221950
Bachelor of IT with options to major in computer science or information systems.

[Anonymous No.10222001]

>>10221986
IT and CS are two different programs. I don't know what your school is selling you, but if "CS" and IT are in the same degree, that's a major red flag to get out of there. Unless your core is a lot of math, a lot of systems like OS theory and design, architecture, graphics, and maybe 1 optional software engineering course, then it's time to high tail it out of there.

[Anonymous No.10222005]

>>10222001
>>10221950
I agree but he's probably from some non-english speaking country where they name shit different or it translates different

[Anonymous No.10222036]

I thought math might help me when I was working in IT (ETL and SQL). It didn't. All the "problems" I was supposed to fix were just the fraud of the execs and they were never going to give me the info I'd need to close their fraud loops. This was a real bitch when I was working at Elavon (credit card processing subsidiary of US Bank.) We had a landing zone folder where the files would come in each night containing the day's transactions. Locally, we had a .ksh script which would move the files around once they arrived. I looked at this script once. Although our automated process (the one they told me about) ran the script with a single parameter, the script allowed a second optional parameter. Needless to say, you could put a whole paragraph of fraud code in that second parameter. I said, "This is a problem," and my boss said, "It's fine."

The job was a bitch because my boss put me on 24/7 phone bitch duty, and the phone would go off every night at 1am, 3am, 4am, etc... The problem was always that the file "was one minute late." This means I would get the automated alarm call when the file didn't arrive but then the file was there by the time I woke up and did the remote connection.

So... with my math skills I was able to determine that in the 21st century we have computerized technology which can reliably send a file at the same time every day. I was further able to determine that the obvious reason why the file was always one minute late was because they were using the second param in the script to run a fraud script on the raw data to remove or add transactions into the file. Did any of this math analysis help me? No. My boss told me to "watch my tone" when I told him that we have computer technology in the 21st century which is able to reliably send a file at the same time every day. In fact, he wrote the .ksh script to do the fraud, and then he was waking me up every 20 minutes with an alarm for me to go check why the file was late.

[Anonymous No.10222048]

>>10222036
>working for a bank
i shiggy diggy

[Anonymous No.10222054]

>>10221724
>IT degree
LMAO
I can pay a quarter of a single year of your worthless degree and still be above you in the corporate ladder because of my experience
You fell for a meme, my dude

[Anonymous No.10222059]

>>10222036
Again, you chose a career that has little to no math. Here's a quote from another thread:
Math + theoretical CS is an incredibly powerful combination. "CS jobs" are in academia, national labs, or research at big companies like google and lockheed martin. "Programming jobs" are things everyone can do, and you don't need a specific degree for that. Programming jobs and CS jobs are two very different things.

[Anonymous No.10222061]

>>10222054
what's the point of this stupid status signaling? I understand Mathfags and physicists wanting to compete and high iq niggers wanting to compete but what's the point of fucking with people beneath you? I understand also the instinct to push down and subjugate the weak, it has its place and its time but why the autistic random aggression? Seems like it just makes unprepared to deal with actual competition. Sorry for being so incredulous as to your motives, the phenomena is common in all institutes and forums so I am using you as a device for working this out for myself. Don't have to respond, or you can, won't be checking if you do.

[Anonymous No.10222064]

>>10222061
don't mind them. They are a minority (math PHD here, normal people have respect for all working people, IT is included)

[Anonymous No.10222067]

>>10222061
Not him, but in all honesty, IT is a meme degree that puts you in front of a lot of stupid people with weird problems. It's also very techbro culture. If you like math, double major in math and theoretical CS with maybe some systems. If you like physics (and want an industry job), do engineering and minor in physics.

[Anonymous No.10222069]

>>10222059
Actually, all of SQL is based on math and Codd wrote a famous paper about it (which is pretty good,I read it twice.) Also, the boss I was talking about is named Robert Garret but when he got in trouble by the FBI they called him Rick Gates and put a subtle disguise on him to make look slightly more masculine. You can tell they have no intention to actually solve the problem, and instead just send meme alarms to the piss-ants, because they let him use an alias and a disguise.
>A Relational Model of Data for Large Shared Data Banks
>https://www.seas.upenn.edu/~zives/03f/cis550/codd.pdf

[Anonymous No.10222077]

>>10222061
He fell for a scam. He got a degree for something anyone with time and a little money can do. He's now going to be in debt for the rest of his life because of it and I will laugh at him for doing so.

[Anonymous No.10222079]

>>10222069
Yes, I'm aware of database research. Relational algebra and associated work in systems is fairly important, but it's beyond dry. I am of the personal belief that while it is important, the subject matter is boring beyond belief and the work is a slog.

That being said I'm a masochist that enjoys cache obliviousness and external memory as far as pure algorithms go, but my personal research interests lie more in the complexity of natural problems (usually in physics)

[Anonymous No.10222081]

>>10222069
It doesn't matter. What I'm starting to realise is that some guy invents some incredible new thing then there's thousands of people who use that thing but don't really understand it so they hire some people who don't really understand how to replicate it but they do understand the mundane corporate maintenance of tools built on top of it and that's pretty much what employment is.

[Anonymous No.10222083]

>>10222069
IT that uses databases isn't the same as actually doing database theory. Even then, as >>10222079 points out, it's incredibly dry on the theory. When you use a toaster, your day isn't filled with electrical engineering just because there was circuitry in your appliance that you needed to use.

[Anonymous No.10222088]

>>10222077
not everyone goes into debt to get a BS