/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10213640]

Why is the racial IQ gap so taboo?

I mean, we diverged for 60,000+ years in wildly different environments. Why is it so hard to conceive of?

[Anonymous No.10213661]

Religious people have a much lower average IQ than non-religious people. Ask yourself why this fact triggers you so much, and then you'll have your answer. You're a sociopath with an evil agenda -- most people aren't like you.

[Anonymous No.10213670]

>>10213640
Kaczynski explains leftist psychology pretty well.

[Anonymous No.10213677]

>>10213640
>look /pol/, I posted it again!

[Anonymous No.10213690]

>>10213661

[Anonymous No.10213692]

>>10213661
High IQ religious people may be religious for different reasons than average Christians. For example, many Christians don’t really know how to defend their faith, because they don’t see any reason to. They accept it because they’re indoctrinated. This is expected, since low IQ people aren’t as capable/willing to ponder a subject and their minds. But there are still very intelligent Christians that understand atheist arguments and have faith for good reasons

[Anonymous No.10213719]

>>10213692
You are aguing about outliers. That's like using black people who got into Harvard as evidence. You are low IQ

[Anonymous No.10213740]

>>10213640
I've never understand what "race realists" actually hope to achieve with this. Sure, there is a statistically significant difference in IQ between races. What should we do about this? It is important to convince people that anthropogenic climate change is real because we can actual fix it if we take it seriously. What does "race realism" hope to achieve? It's very similar to SJWs attempting to convince people that there are more than two genders. From a psychological standpoint, that's most likely true, but who the fuck cares? It's an irrelevant factoid. Unless you're advocating for affirmative action, which would be hilarious.

[Anonymous No.10213752]

>>10213719
No I’m explaining why the average religious IQ is lower. Atheists are more critical and question their beliefs, so they’re more likely to be atheist. But most religious people accept their beliefs through indoctrination and don’t question them. It’s not surprising that a high IQ kid doesn’t understand Christianity, has a lot of questions about it, and becomes atheist. Sadly, he probably won’t ever care to look into religion again. I was an atheist until I was 18 but read Pascal’s Penseés and converted before finishing the book.Just because Christianity isn’t easily understood doesn’t mean that it’s more rational to be an atheist. A lot of atheists are intelligent, but they’re very proud and this causes them to be stubborn with their beliefs they formed when they were teenagers.

[Anonymous No.10213755]

>>10213752
Who cares. The data do not lie. You are more likely to run into a low IQ Christian than a low IQ atheist. That's a fact.

[Anonymous No.10213764]

>>10213755
I agree with you. Is there any implication you want to share?

[Anonymous No.10213771]

[Anonymous No.10213774]

>>10213661
literal wat, OP says nothing about religion rofl. brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10213791]

>>10213774
OP is taking about sub-groups of the population in relation to IQ. The inability to follow related tangents is the hallmark of low IQ. Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10213792]

>>10213640

because humans are still very biologically similar to each other despite the fact we lived in different environments

[Anonymous No.10213795]

>>10213740
>What does "race realism" hope to achieve?
well im not a supporter of 'race realism', but i can certainly see its appeal.

>more productive workforce,less uneducated people on welfare.
>cleaner,safer,quiet neighborhoods
>better drivers on the road,less accidents
>quotas for science and education programs could be filled immediately
>more rational society overall.
>the average voter is engaged when it comes to politics.
>high IQ people spend less money on garbage like hollywood,fashion or space travel

its a utopia. how can you not see this?

[Anonymous No.10213815]

>>10213795
Ok, but you do realize that this is a ridiculous fantasy, right? You can't just kick out one race from your country. Did you see how that turned out last time?

[Anonymous No.10213817]

Ftfy

[Anonymous No.10213821]

>>10213640
Why do you polfags keep posting on /sci/? Go back to >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.10213827]

>>10213817
There's plenty of evidence for climate change

[Anonymous No.10213828]

>>10213815
>>10213795
Also, if you're going to go that far, why not just execute every child that scores an IQ less than 120? Achieves the exact same thing. Otherwise it's just affirmative action for white people.

[Anonymous No.10213831]

>>10213815
Well, American whites never wanted integration in the first place. It’s pretty sad when you think about it. Like, blacks could have had their own cities or something.

[Anonymous No.10213835]

>>10213640
As you can see from this thread, fear is the driving force behind it. They fear the implications of knowledge and it's application.

>nazi /pol/ boogeyman
>You're a sociopath with an evil agenda
>What do you hope to achieve with this?

These are the cancerous ideas that stifle progress. These idiots would rather us fall apart in dysfunction than to understand why we are failing to reach our maximum potential.

[Anonymous No.10213839]

>>10213640

I'm pretty sure scientists have never said "race is a determinant of intelligence"

[Anonymous No.10213849]

>>10213828
no need to kill anyone my man.

im just saying, have IQ tests and basic reading and writing tests for certain areas of your community.
there is nothing wrong with it. some communities only let certain people in anyways, so why not in a form of a test?

[Anonymous No.10213856]

>>10213849
But that has nothing to do with race. You could make a large community filled with high IQ black people if you wanted. All of you "race realists" just like to play identity politics

[Anonymous No.10213873]

>>10213856
yes but they would never let this happen. because we live in an egalitarian society.
you would have claims of segregation and racism right off the bat.

[Anonymous No.10213887]

>>10213873
So you agree race realism is not based on IQ. It is based on hating black people.

[Anonymous No.10213899]

all fags are fags anon, because they grew up in different environments and shit doesn't mean they are superior. it just means they were born/raised in another environment. they are as much of a fag as you. stop jerking off and maybe you can increase your iq too

[Anonymous No.10213910]

>>10213899
Then why does the gap not disappear when you remove the poverty?

Better yet, why do poor whites academically outperform wealthy blacks?

[Anonymous No.10213913]

>>10213839
That's kind of the point of OP

And yes, one has

He was shitlisted for even mentioning it

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fury-at-dna-pioneers-theory-africans-are-less-intelligent-than-westerners-394898.html

[Anonymous No.10213923]

>>10213887
if you can find blacks that act white, sure

[Anonymous No.10213935]

>>10213771
134 here

[Anonymous No.10213937]

>>10213771
>a bunch of third world nations have problems crime. It must have to do with IQ and not how they are starving, uneducated and prone to sickness
>>10213640
Because /pol/tards use it as a way of justifying racial discrimination and fail to see the whole picture. Then others think it's just NAZI propaganda

[Anonymous No.10213944]

>>10213937
But there SHOULD be discrimination

That's like an animal shelter employee saying "You should keep the fact that pit bulls are 24x more likely to kill a kid under wraps, it may make someone not want to adopt them"

[Anonymous No.10213951]

>>10213937
>Implying them being starving and impoverished isn't to do with their low IQ to begin with

[Anonymous No.10213952]

>>10213923
Blacks that don't act "white" are a segregation problem. For that matter Chinese people out of China don't act "white" either. But they grow here and they act "white" unless they grow in some Chinatown. It's just a matter of nurturing.

[Anonymous No.10213957]

>>10213952
>It's just a matter of nurturing.

>just

>It's all to do with one generation and where they're born right now

>60,000 years of evolutionary divergence having an impact? ABSURD!

[El Arcón No.10213960]

>>10213944
Humans aren’t dogs though. A dog doesn’t understand discrimination. Race realism is not about science, but treating certain groups of people like shit.

[Anonymous No.10213963]

>>10213960
Yes we all know biology doesn't apply to humans, just because.

It's not about treating them like shit, it's about treating them accordingly. For instance, maybe a demographic that makes up 6% of the population but commits half the murder isn't fit for a civilized society.

[Anonymous No.10213969]

>>10213944
fuxcking this.

i want muh luxury space cummies for my great grandkids, not fucking stone age feudalism planet of the apes.

[Anonymous No.10213971]

>>10213740
>Sure, there is a statistically significant difference in IQ between races. What should we do about this?

Not him, but we can stop importing people with mid range double digit IQs into modern society and expecting them to function normally because it's provable that almost none of them can without constant supervision/cash injections. I've seen enough studies and even news reports to see these groups when they're like this, unable to integrate with modern society, have just about every marker for being pissed off and miserable all the time and anybody in their situation would be the same. But our great and wonderful neoliberal world order seems to want to bash as many humans as it can together like rocks because more humans is more markets is more capital. Sadly, it's also a lot more consumption and we're polluting and heating up the planet even more.
More worrying is the results showing genes which signal a much greater propensity for violence.

It's science, these things are true whether or not we believe they are true. This new-wave religion from the extreme left of politics which most viciously attacks other leftists is a disease on academia.
These conversations are annoying because they are poisoned by people with an agenda so you have people who knowingly argue in bad faith saying we're all going to be murdering people for getting a B+ on their maths tests and wearing nazi uniforms or some other bullshit.

At the bare minimum society should allow discussion of this (or anything else) and thankfully, the USA's first amendment allows it.
I fully expect somebody to even mischaracterize this post by implying "well let's go all the way and sequence every person's DNA and put that in a government machine", because their desire to feel like they "got back" at a person is more important than the terrifying implications of that proposal and having an understanding of the topic.

>tl;dr
Hope for an asteroid.

[Anonymous No.10213972]

>>10213963
So what do you do with them? This is where you never state your true beliefs. You just state "facts" that are perfectly true, but are useless unless you plan to do something.

[Anonymous No.10213974]

>>10213960
its about

>you have to go back

access to white pussy is not a human rights issue

[Anonymous No.10213975]

>>10213963
Sounds like you want to treat people like shit under the guise of biology. Science deals in facts, not value judgements

[Anonymous No.10213976]

>>10213972
Segregate and let them fend for themselves

[Anonymous No.10213979]

>>10213640
pretty funny that the only people who pay attention to race realism and racial IQ averages are low IQ whites (some asian), or maybe a few autistic (low EQ) whites who maybe got a high IQ result as a kid.
Once you reach a sufficient level of social wellbeing (necessary for happiness and efficiency and important, don't go all sour grapes on me) and a sufficient level of intelligence (whatever it would take to graduate college with a STEM degree, say, you become immune to worrying about it.
Probably they have decided that they're going to ignore this nonsequitorial "issue," any solution to it has been deemed unethical and inhumane and most of us weren't conditioned away from empathy as kids through bullying and social isolation, so we just have happy productive lives with lots of friends, family, and money, and ignore the tiny group of other whites calling us cucks for relaxing and enjoying life. It's not a problem unless you freak out about it, just like the rest of the stuff that holds you guys back in life (women, jobs, better men, friends, basically anything that isn't anonymous posting and video games).

You've got to really have nothing to lose to get into this schlock.

[Anonymous No.10213980]

>>10213969

[El Arcón No.10213983]

>>10213969
Autocratic monarchy is fascism right? It's in the Bible, the first chapter of a major prophet even, that God is going to implement a fascist government.

[Anonymous No.10213984]

>>10213979
your'e mistaking the social ostracism and culture of doxing for a lack of quality. thats the effect, not the cause. ignorance is bliss.

[Anonymous No.10213985]

>>10213971
Why do you make the cut off at middle double digit IQs? I think that we should start a super country of only 130 IQ individuals and above. Unfortunately most whites will be excluded, but maybe some Jews and Asians can make it in.

[Anonymous No.10213987]

>>10213975
>Sounds like you want to treat people like shit under the guise of biology

>It's not about treating them like shit, it's about treating them accordingly

It's about being biologically honest and then acting accordingly. The negro has only been removed from the jungle for a few hundred years and even then it wasn't their doing.

They adapted to a region in which day to day survival was paramount, they put little to no thought into the long term

>Don't get eaten by that lion

>Find some food or starve

>Don't get dragged down by a croc while getting water

Europeans faced a host of different problems that required more long term problem solving abilities

>Hey, it's getting cold AF. I better have enough food to last me a while

[Anonymous No.10213988]

>>10213971
Let me guess, you’re one of the smart ones who will be spared in the great culling

[Anonymous No.10213993]

>>10213984
Honestly, in this day and age, selective breeding is an incredibly slow and ineffectual way to go about enhancing human populations. You have the same regulatory chance of getting human gene editing laws passed as selective breeding laws, so might as well go straight for gene editing. In this way, race is truly irrelevant. But you don't want that do you?

[Anonymous No.10213996]

>>10213983
monarchy is a mono-archon. one ruler not beholden to the people as he has been ordained by divine right. fascism is a revolutionary proletariat ideology which mantles the race to the dictator, whom has an assumed contract of trust to uphold the national spirit.

if a monarch wanted to justify a genocide of his own people, he could do it easily. a dictator under fascism would have a harder time as its within his mandate to ensure such things do not happen.

[Anonymous No.10213997]

>>10213987
This comment shows that you have little understanding of biology or evolution. Your understanding is based on pop science at best. Very low IQ

[Anonymous No.10213998]

>>10213987
There’s nothing biological about it. All humans, even the “low-IQ” races, are smart and self-aware enough to understand their own suffering and survival. I’m not sure what you even think should be done besides “lol ignore the dummies they’re too dumb to adapt”

[Anonymous No.10214000]

>>10213984
You weren't socially ostracized for your brave fascist beliefs.
You learned to be socially ostracized the first time you failed in athletic competition on the playground, or said something way too mean to the girl who was teasing you in middle school and her whole group of friends decided you were "weird", and decided you enjoyed escapist fantasy over genuine social interaction and achievement.
Later, you found this philosophy, and it makes you feel important and edgy and part of something.
Your beliefs are a downstream result of your inherent inferiority. Not racial inferiority, you just suck as an individual. Parents fucked up or something, should have limited screen time maybe.
That's alright. Post on your 4channel, hold your opinions secret in social situations, don't do shit about them despite constantly threatening and talking about them. Resent whoever you want to resent. Maybe one or two more of you will shoot up a church or something. Nobody cares about you and your beliefs are so ugly and antisocial nobody ever will.
You're at the bottom of the pile, this is all perfectly natural behavior for someone in your position. Makes it easy not to pity you.

[Anonymous No.10214001]

>>10213951
>long term starving doesn't destroy IQ
Poorer nations have too many factors to just conclude race is the issue
>>10213944
>>10213963
>>10213969
See here, it's more about dehumanizing people than learning about biology.

[Anonymous No.10214005]

>>10214000
I hate the projection meme.. But yikes!

[Anonymous No.10214007]

>>10213993
>honestly

if you actually knew what you were talking about then you wouldnt be saying this. gene engineering is nowhere near as good as 100,000 years of natural selection creating the white people. also even still, correct, i would prefer an organic method which also has the benefit of preserving national aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.10214008]

Honestly race realism never made sense, especially if you're using IQ as an argument. If you're afraid of low IQ blacks ruining society then you might as well apply the same standards to everyone including whites. Why just stop at blacks? Cull or kick out anyone who's the below the determined IQ threshold. If you're looking to make society better through these means then why do it half-assed? Might as well go all the way. But in the end this was never really about improving society, it's just people looking for ways to justify shitting on non-whites.

[Anonymous No.10214009]

>>10214001
>Being too stupid to move somewhere else when you're starving

Vicious cycle

So instead of doing away with babysitting a people who cannot maintain a civilization under any circumstance, we should just anchor ourselves to them and go down with them?

[Anonymous No.10214013]

>>10214008
Yeah but skin color is instantly recognizable and a fairly reasonable metric

[Anonymous No.10214014]

>>10214005
Weakest retort on the whole website.

[Anonymous No.10214017]

>>10214000
>le cold reading

fuh king heck my sides

[Anonymous No.10214018]

>>10213985
While lower IQs are less intelligent, the higher you go in IQ you also have increasing rates of mental illness.
My standard is pretty low dude, have an average IQ of 90-ish.
If you want to be pedantic you can make it 100 but higher than that I think you'd have newfound issues we haven't foreseen because no such society has existed.

>>10213988
I don't care either way, I am trying to be impartial.
The reason this issue is so personal to you, is because you have made it personal because in your mind everything is personal. We're all out to prove we're better than you or some other garbage.

>>10213993
Natural selection doesn't exist in society anymore, modern medicine did away with that.
Word on the vine is China is going to go hardcore in with designer babies, a friend in biochemistry was telling me he's seen a stream of Chinese names on papers to do with anything genetic.

Whether white soapbox standing-on pearl clutchers like it or not, gene manipulation *is* going to happen and once the Chinese monetize it, you'll have money all over the world pouring in and then costs will start decreasing, more people will want it for fear of being left behind by those who have it.

A Chinese researcher summed it up best
>"Everybody will be against it until they can afford it".

[Anonymous No.10214020]

>>10214007
100,000 years of selection hasn't just selected only for incredibly high intelligence (which is why you still see fairly stupid people today). I'm saying that even IF we were to do a eugenics based approach, doing it from a racial standpoint makes no god damn sense other than to make you little racists feel secure in yourselves. If you wanted to be scientific about it, you would start from a stock of incredible athletes (blacks), and intelligent people (Asians and Jews). Or, you would directly edit the genes in question, as is becoming more and more possible.

This is assuming you have solved the ethical question of eugenics in the first place. Have you?

[Anonymous No.10214022]

>>10214017
Not really "cold reading" when you're all the same person lmao

[Anonymous No.10214023]

>>10214001
its about wanting your own habitat where dangerous invaders dont have carte blanche to trample your delicate biodiversity.

imagine for a moment that rightists were demonstrating every day, trying to force they pigmies to accept the chinese to live in their jungle camps, and the chinese just litter all over the floor and rape the pigmy daughters. imagine then that if you said this is unnatural that you are now an evil person for some reason. that what you sound like.

[Anonymous No.10214025]

>>10214013
>fairly reasonable

Why not just take a damn IQ test and only let the smart ones breed? This is just affirmative action for white people.

[Anonymous No.10214028]

>>10214025
Not cost efficient

[Anonymous No.10214030]

>>10214020
it seems pretty clear to me that whites have within their in group all the essential components of a superman, just as any race does within its spread of genes. what i propose is a romantic vision of the world in which difference in accentuated and we all strive to create the ideal version of our own kind.

[Anonymous No.10214031]

>>10214020
lurker here
christ alive this is tiresome, Rob Putnam already showed increasing racial diversity in a society goes hand in hand with decreasing trust/enjoyment/blah/blah/blah you know what study it is
race is the factor, i didn't select it, seems evolution did
if i was running the show we'd just exclude all the petty, disingenuous mental midgets like yourself

...and the people who like Rei in Evangelion

[Anonymous No.10214032]

>>10214025
Fuck it I'm for it. We'd knock a lot of these righty boys right out of the gene pool, maybe that's why they get so salty.
IQ tests only take a few hours, we already make practically everyone go to the DMV. Why not just have a baseline score and if you don't meet it you get a vasectomy or salpingoophorectomy?
I'd be down.

[Anonymous No.10214034]

>>10213661
Irreligious populations are almost entirely European or East Asian, yes?

[Anonymous No.10214035]

>>10214018
No, your standard is entirely arbitrary to exclude a particular race. Your "concerns" are not backed up by science.

[Anonymous No.10214036]

>>10214000
trips of truth
this is unironically how extremist ideologies prey on people; they find sad sacks who don't have any real prospects or sense of purpose, and tells them they can be champions of the great Race/Caliphate/Murica against the (((bad guys))) who want to destroy it for no apparent reason besides being evil.

[Anonymous No.10214038]

>>10214020
as opposed to being a cuck and letting your own racial genetic traits be dissolved by the opposition whim will not mourn your loss (infact quite the opposite, they recognise all too well how the game of life must be competetive. only cucked tryhard whites and pernicious slimeball browns try to ignore this fact of life)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intraspecific_competition

[Anonymous No.10214039]

>>10214032
>Right wing

>Low IQ

[Anonymous No.10214042]

>>10214038
>They're trying to get rid of the people keeping them alive

That's some searing self loathing

[Anonymous No.10214043]

>>10214022
i am like the opposite of this image btw

[Anonymous No.10214044]

>>10214028
This is the future of the human race bub, you can't let Jimmy from the trailer park out breed PhDs just because he's white.

[Anonymous No.10214049]

>>10213815
I am Greek, and all Greeks were expelled from Turkey in 1921, quite successfully. Somehow no one ever brings this up.

[Anonymous No.10214051]

>we lived in different environments for one or two hundred generations, so our intelligence must be different
>we lived in different environments for one or two hundred generations, so our ribosomes must be different
>we lived in different environments for one or two hundred generations, so our hemoglobins must be different
>we lived in different environments for one or two hundred generations, so our bone microstructure must be different
sometimes traits are highly conserved despite having the opportunity to diverge. it's evolution, baby!

[Anonymous No.10214052]

>>10214030
Not math or science. Gtfo this board brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10214053]

>>10214043
oh ya no doubt lmao

[Anonymous No.10214056]

>>10214039
Statistically, that's the consensus. Right wingers are lower IQ on average.

[Anonymous No.10214065]

>>10213640
because IQ is bullshit and exist only to make people who achieved nothing feel better about themselves...

[Anonymous No.10214067]

>>10214039
Yep, that's what the numbers show hahaha does this surprise you? I thought you knew so much about IQ you would know this.

[Anonymous No.10214071]

>>10213661
>Ask yourself why this fact triggers you so much
That fact doesn't trigger me at all. I'm an atheist and a race realist, and realize that religious people are retarded.

[Anonymous No.10214075]

>>10214009
>"why don't they just move!?! Checkmate!"
Is this really the state of /sci/?
>"They can't even maintain civilization!"
Except they have before. Your ignorance is showing anon
>>10214023
it's about you not wanting to acknowledge people as human beings just because they look different. It's not about "safety". You're just ruling people out before giving them a chance a. No one is calling for open boarders. Just not to have their life assumed because of where they come from

[Anonymous No.10214079]

>>10214044
seems at this rate jimmys fucked because his living expenses are rising and you decided to neglect raising a family because your phd took too much time and isn't having an abortion and a dog just as good?
you did this my ninja

[Anonymous No.10214080]

>>10214075
you didnt address a single thing i said and just restated your presumption. kys faggot.

[Anonymous No.10214082]

>>10214079
Wtf are you talking about. Type coherently next time brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10214085]

>>10214075
>just because they look different.

there's that intellectual dishonesty again, i didn't read them saying it's just because they look different - nor did anybody else

[Anonymous No.10214087]

>>10214079
Here's the game plan for my children:
>Graduate high school early
>Blow out bachelors degree by 20
>Med school next year
>Graduating in family med, psych, or anesthesiology by 28
>Have family, kids, money, job.

SO easy.

[Anonymous No.10214091]

>>10214000
>this is your brain on circles

[Anonymous No.10214092]

>>10213661
>evil
Does not exist my friend.

[Anonymous No.10214094]

>>10213815
Yes we can...

[Anonymous No.10214109]

>>10213979
Pat yourself on the back right now

[Anonymous No.10214122]

Because it makes black people feel sad.

[Anonymous No.10214137]

>>10213979
tl;dr
>"you stop having ingroup preference when you climb higher in Maslow's pyramid"

Yeah, except this is easily disproven bullshit since people with racial opinions appear at every strata of society and income level. I know this from interacting with different people, but you can tell this just by seeing the world around us.

Why don't we be big brained adults and talk about the issues removed from our personal lives instead of trying to inject our personal lives like self absorbed brainlets talking bullshit?

[Anonymous No.10214143]

>>10213827
Yes thats the point. . . The same applies to race and iq.

[Anonymous No.10214188]

>>10213828
just sterlize them bro

[Anonymous No.10214223]

>>10213979
your taxes are literally funding people's stupidity and incompetence.
i have plenty of sympathy for disabled and minorities, but you have to admit it.

[Anonymous No.10214246]

>>10213937
>socioeconomic hardship depresses iq ok?
>it MUST be because they have low iq and not totally because of the socioeconomic hardship right?
>people in rich families who are stupid and commit more crimes than their smart siblings are definitely doing it because of...oh no!
>>10213791
>the hallmark
i wonder where you come from

[Anonymous No.10214252]

>>10214137
No he is correct as the needs are fulfilled and iq increases social liberalism goes up, this doesn't actually mean in-group preference isn't vital and has nothing at all to do with whether race is real, its a half-truth he's peddling sloppily using weird just-world fallacy reasoning, which would necessarily justify Jews and Whites dominating lesser races which they already do, to ask you to just bro-out and get your dick sucked (unless you cant, in which case just ignore it and I guess get high or something or work more hours while other people don't, but this of course implies an inequality of man; i mean its literally in his fucking post, he talks about some people being badly socialized or having innately low eq, seems to view this as inborn, ergo you'd think he'd be more cognizant of the way he's talking but its a bait post and the person who wrote it made egregious grammatical and stylistic errors and seems to have a really mediocre iq so its just not to be expected of them just as expecting minorities to not be violent is fucking stupid; which is interesting because liberals also expect them to be violent cuz of dem socioeconomic conditions and shiet)

[Anonymous No.10214256]

>>10213984
>>10213984
Friendly reminder
/pol/ is filled with semi-literate 16 year olds who can neither write a logical proof nor recognize the fallacies and philosophers on the top of their board. They believe anything you put in an infographic with minimal research of their own and believe conspiracy theories that easily fall to Occam's razor(I'm talking about the (((Jews))) obviously). I'm pretty sure they would suck cock if you put it in an infographic.
If you look at site statistics you will realize that /pol/ is literally all newfags trying hard to be neckbeards. Weird, why would anyone aspire to be a loser from 4chan? The site's population has tripled since gamergate in 2014 and /pol/ has risen with the influx of all the newfags. The rampant unironic racism should key you in on how 4chan is long dead and something else is wearing its skin. The existence of this place is testament to the lack of quality education and critical thinking nowadays and our inability to take the internet seriously.

You've heard us complain about the cancer killing 4chan for years. Well, now we've reached stage 4 and that tumor's name is /pol/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=a_yfnQPaD_E

You do realize the "redpill" is just low-effort political indoctrination right? you likely have no real understanding of world history, critical thinking, or philosophy. Your entire worldview is 4chan posts, infographics, and memes. You probably spend too much time on the internet and confuse trying to "btfo" an opponent with how an actual respectful argument should work in real life where you try and help the other person and your mother won't feel the need to smack your ass. These younger kids growing up on the internet are confusing banter for how arguments actually work or are never learning how to handle themselves in a discussion in the first place.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hhx6IfKrvEQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VM6HZqQKhok
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8NFy6Uc2BHs

[Anonymous No.10214268]

>>10213640
People don't talk about it because it's far too late for "race" realism to work. African countries won't accept American blacks when they have no resources or jobs for them. Only Ghana has a right to return policy and they're only accepting 30,000 American blacks. Immigrants are necessary for the jobs Americans don't want and the automation for their jobs are still decades away. Ethnocentrism in America is more trouble than it's worth.

[Anonymous No.10214293]

>>10214256
Freindly reminder

This poster saved copypasta which explain how triggering it is for leftie to be at 4chan. Non stop whining and crying with nothing to discuss. This poster unironically belives what he posted. This is your mind on leftism. No logic no reason just pure whine and tears.

[Anonymous No.10214301]

>>10213640

[Anonymous No.10214302]

>>10214301
Redpill 2

[Anonymous No.10214304]

>>10214302
Redpill 3

[Anonymous No.10214306]

>>10214304
redpill 4

[Anonymous No.10214307]

>>10214306
Redpill 5

[Anonymous No.10214310]

>>10214307
China is faking their IQ tests.

[Anonymous No.10214312]

There's evidence for IQ but no evidence that low IQ whites are more important than high IQ not-whites.
There's no evidence that states that race matters more than individual IQ for a person

[Anonymous No.10214339]

>/sci/ actually mans the fuck up and doesn't take shit from /pol/'s blathering.
This is my first time on this board, I think I like you guys already. I just wish the other boards could do the same.
Also this is my last post here I will not reply to any replies to my post kthxbai.

[Anonymous No.10214344]

>>10214339
>/sci/ actually mans the fuck up and doesn't take shit from /pol/'s blathering

>Also this is my last post here I will not reply to

Never laughed so hard lefty. Dont let the door hit your ass.

[Anonymous No.10214345]

>>10213661
correlation =/= cause

[Anonymous No.10214347]

>>10214345
It's true.

[Anonymous No.10214349]

I'm a leftist race realist. I think we need to understand how black people's brains work in order to help them, and denying intelligence differences between races only harms that cause.

[Anonymous No.10214399]

>>10214349
I'm on the right, but this. Jesus Christ, what will we do once mainstream CRISPR editing rolls out? Will we refuse to offer them intelligence enhancement in effort not to offend them when everyone else will be on top of the priority queue? Not to mention the genes that correlate (not cause, don't sperg out) to higher criminality?

[Anonymous No.10214404]

>>10214399
Well, if we give in to CRISPR, then a thousand years down the line we'll just turn into non-reproductive slaves to the gene-editing process, so if we keep black people from participating, then they'll be the only true humans left.

[Anonymous No.10214415]

>>10213752
What about Penseés made you convert

[Anonymous No.10214417]

>>10214399
>what will we do once mainstream CRISPR editing rolls out?
CRISPR is the biggest meme ever. Just look at our crops or farm animals. We aren't going to create superhumans in the future. In fact we'll probably end up finding there's some complicated epigenetics involved in IQ that we don't understand yet.

[Anonymous No.10214427]

>>10213661
True that’s exactly why high IQ societies in Europe or Asia are mostly atheist while low IQ societies in Africa and the Middle East are extremely religious.

[Anonymous No.10214438]

>>10213910
White culture encourages chasing success.
In black culture such behaviour is frowned upon.
Its a matter of whites having developed culture that is overhemingly superrior to the black one.

[Anonymous No.10214445]

>>10213640
Because it will lead to genocide

[Anonymous No.10214446]

>>10213887
By this logic, if you think Jews have a higher average IQ than gentile Whites, that means you hate White people.

[Anonymous No.10214449]

>>10214445
As opposed to race denialism, which will lead to idiocracy?

[Anonymous No.10214457]

>>10213640
>>10213670
>>10214065
Modern leftish philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that modern leftish philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e., failed, inferior). The leftist’s feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual’s ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is “inferior” it is not his fault, but society’s, because he has not been brought up properly.

[Anonymous No.10214492]

>>10214036
we are literally in the age of the memeoid.
All these people sacrificing personal wellbeing and sexual reproduction in favor of spreading their meme, with kneejerk reactions to common criticisms to protect the brainwom from harm.
All in favor of spreading it online. Pretty fuckin cyberpunk.

[Anonymous No.10214493]

>>10214143
Except one is something demonstratable through experimentation, the other is a set of CORRELATIONS. Don't know why /sci/ can't seem to work out the importance of that difference.
> inb4 adoption studies
85% of the time psychology and sociology rightly get shit on for being shit science, but never when it's supporting these stupid arguments. Funny ain't it?

[Anonymous No.10214497]

>>10214252
There is zero just world fallacy in my argument, I'm not saying to just bro out and get his dick sucked. II'm saying he's wrong about race, it's probably because he isn't a very rigorous thinker and never received a normal amount of social conditioning, and it's fucking up his life but that's fine because his life isn't worth much to anyone including him. But probably it's the best thing that's ever happened to him because it allows him to talk on the chans as if he knows something, and to draw quick little alliances with anons like you in "debates" against other people on the chan boards.
You're strawmanning pretty hard for someone who is clearly so knowledgeable about logical fallacies.

[Anonymous No.10214524]

>>10214457
Is it someone's "fault" if they are genetically less intelligent? Also, leftists have higher IQ on average than right wingers, so I would say that their arguments are most likely correct. Do you deny the importance of IQ?

[Anonymous No.10214528]

>>10214293
Leftists have higher IQs.

[Anonymous No.10214532]

>>10214446
I don't care about IQ or race.

[Anonymous No.10214593]

>>10214524
>Also, leftists have higher IQ on average than right wingers, so I would say that their arguments are most likely correct
You’re forgetting the fact that leftists tend to use emotion in their beliefs much more. Usually, when a right winger argues with a leftist, the leftist is the first one to scream/cry/leave.

[Anonymous No.10214650]

>>10214593
You base this on nothing. R wing uses emotion to, but more aggressive/fear based.
Better question is why are you so hell bend on sucking the right's dick? You are aware all sides are made up of garbage people and just pushing their own benefits. Right?

[Anonymous No.10214804]

>>10213849
There is no value in letting them live. Wiping them out would be a mercy.

Why won't your take you theory to its logical conclusion?

[Anonymous No.10214806]

>>10213969
>>10213980
>>10213984

[Anonymous No.10214895]

>>10213640
I don't know, faggot, why AREN'T we allowed to talk about IQ?

[Anonymous No.10214903]

>>10213661
>All these replies
Nazis in this thread: pic related

[Anonymous No.10214907]

>>10213983
>Jews want fascism
Wow, color absolutely nobody surprised.

[Anonymous No.10214911]

>>10213984
>Racism is about love for your people, not hate of others
>By the way, we're going to need your country for our race to populate because we love them so much

[Anonymous No.10214913]

>>10214307
>>10214310
>Whites are superior; look at these IQ scores
>Jews and chinks are liars, btw
Like clockwork

[Anonymous No.10214945]

>>10214895
race realists are perfectly happy to admit that rural and religious people are less intelligent on average.

[Anonymous No.10214958]

>>10214945
No they're not. You are happy to lie online and in real life, however.

[Anonymous No.10214963]

>>10214056
>implying that collectivists have high IQs

>>10213661
>implying that allowing those who suffer from having low IQs to voluntarily adhere to a form of social order that keeps them from turning to destruction is necessarily bad

[Anonymous No.10214983]

>>10214963
>Implying anyone unironically using words like "collectivist" have anything but a double-digit IQ

[Anonymous No.10215074]

>>10213969

[Anonymous No.10215081]

>>10213640
because it's mainly due to socio-economic factors, not skin color.

[Anonymous No.10215085]

>>10214593
triggered poltards go back to your containment board

[Anonymous No.10215715]

>>10213771
tfw 120 iq but still struggling with financial engineering

[Anonymous No.10215735]

>>10213752
>Christianity isn't easily understood
It's very easily understood. It's only hard to understand if you are ignorant of all the historical context behind it.

Believing in Christianity is less about having faith in the word of the Lord and more about having faith in the millennia-long game of telephone that people have been playing with abrahamic religious philosophy and tradition. Considering nothing of particular extranormal importance has happened for like 2000 years, and considering how exploitative modern institutions are, the form of Christianity most people get indoctrinated into holds nothing but a faint memory of the original belief system, and you're likely no different.

[Anonymous No.10215780]

>>10213937
Hear me out here. If, for example, violent crime correlates with race, isn't it justified to be cautious?
I'm not saying that racial profiling is good or anything like that, I don't support the police and I don't dislike black people, but if I end up getting mugged while walking through East Cleveland I can pretty much guarantee you it's not gonna be by a white guy.

[Anonymous No.10215794]

>>10215780
There are no white people in East Cleveland