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What is /sci/ opinion of JF Gariepy's new book?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L3QH667

>> No.10210139

Is this the new sequel to star trek?

>> No.10211638

>>10210023
so what is JFs actual degree? is he a phd biologist who just went off the rails?

>> No.10211646
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>> No.10211694

Low IQ garbage

>> No.10212488

>>10211638
he's a neuroscientist who has done research in evolutionary biology and you're just mad at him for being racist

>> No.10212510

it's kind of funny that because he's racist no one's going to pay attention to his theory about how gene editing will destroy humanity in like a thousand years

>> No.10212983

>>10212488
im a big fan of jf and enjoy the public space i was just wondering about his background

>> No.10213000

JF is a race realist, which anyone who studies genes for more than one long night should be

>> No.10213003

>>10211694
where is he wrong

>> No.10213029

Does anyone here actually know anything about his theory? Apparently we're all going to become sexless slaves to a computer. Well I should tell you, that's already happened to me, haha!

>> No.10213047

>>10213029
lol yeah his point is crispr leads to destruction, and he explains why. Funny cause it was released right around the time that chinese scientist went missing after curing aids with crispr

>> No.10213046

>>10212510
Honestly get the feeling that this race realism stuff is just a shtick to get YouTube livestream donations from 110 IQ losers fixated on le masterrace. Meanwhile he couldn't actually give a fuck about the topic himself and has a much broader perspective of reality. I think he even had a jew gf (at least people thought she looked jewish, so that makes her jewish). Based fellow Quebecois, milking those american alt righters for their money.

>> No.10213052

>>10213046
its as important as it is, not so important, but not unimportant. Its just the truth.

>> No.10213069

>>10213046
he had his girlfriend do 23andme and it's confirmed that she is 100% white european. he also does seem to genuinely care about human biodiversity, and his concern with the future of humanity is perfectly in accord with that

>> No.10213074

>>10213069
Acceptance of transhumanism is an implicit rejection of racial preservation.

>> No.10213078

>>10213046
i should say that is girlfriend is very average-looking though

>>10213074
yeah he wants to preserve humanity as it is

>> No.10213098

>>10213046
in fact if anything his promoting the race realism stuff is a tactical error since it only turns him into a pariah and no one will pay attention to his work

>> No.10213102

the most notable peopel promoting the revolutionary phenotype are richard spencer and david duke. yeah, this thing is really gonna get off the ground, lol

>> No.10213106

>>10213098
Exactly, JF acknowledges truth in the face of oppression, and he does it carefully to avoid youtube and twitter bans. Based Quebecois.

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>>10213102
hes not exactly doing poorly

>> No.10213140

>>10213119
yeah, you can get pretty high in obscure categories if just a few hundred people buy your book. not that impressive.

>> No.10213152

>>10213140
are those obscure categories?

>> No.10213165

>>10213152
as far as books on amazon go, yes. if you sell a few hundred copies of your book within a week, it's going to rise to the top 10 in categories like artificial intelligence and biology.

>> No.10213169

>>10213165
well those are the categories its supposed to be in, but I agree he will have a hard time selling the book

>> No.10213176

>>10210023
JF has such a simple understanding of biologi. He has again and again made basic mistakes like talking about genetic and environment like its either the one or the other. And he seems to be really into evolutionary physiology, which is just a bunch of conjecture.

Don't take a white-nationalist word for shit when talking about biologi.

>is he a phd biologist
He is not.

>> No.10213187

>>10213176
he has no phd? where is your proof

>> No.10213192

>>10213169
the thing is, his audience is inherently limited by virtue of his social circle, and someone like richard dawkins or steven pinker or someone is never even going to mention him. the best thing that can happen to his theory is that a budding young biologist plagiarizes it and publishes it in a more socially acceptable format

>> No.10213195

>>10213176
pretty sure he has a phd in neuroscience, and he has research published by reputable journals and institutions

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C21&q=jf+gariepy&oq=

>> No.10213200

>>10213176
also what mistakes

>> No.10213229

>>10213200
anon might be talking about how he conflates environment with genetics since much of the environment is just genetic organisms interacting with other genetic organism in the first place

>> No.10213537

>>10210023
lol i publish in similar journals.

>> No.10213562

>>10213537
explain

>> No.10213576

>>10213000
>JF is a race realist
not until we see a large sample of black identical twins split up at birth, one raised by birth mother the other raised by white well to do educated family.
bet we'll see an iq gap.

>> No.10213595

>>10213576
you dont need that, look at rich black families vs poor white families.
If you claim a black kid raised by white parents will have a white kid IQ you miss the point of how the ability to raise a child is also consequence of DNA the same way IQ is.

>> No.10213598

>>10213595
This is also JF's point about how nature vs nurture is a flawed argument, which hes right

>> No.10213641

>>10213598
>>10213595
and acknowledging this isnt racist

>> No.10213707

>>10213595
>the environment is shaped around genetic appetites
without an identical twin adoption study, you just have speculation and maybe a little racism

>> No.10213724

>>10213595
the heritability of environment is at about 30%. plenty of room for the rest of environment to make or break the iq

>> No.10213738

>>10213724
>>10213707
why in the world would rich blacks under-perform poor whites? you guys are jumping through serious hula hoops while claiming more critical understanding of statistical analysis, its crazy.

>> No.10213751

>>10213738
people want to claim that blacks have a lower iq. my point is, you don't know this until you have the twin adoption study.

>> No.10213756

>>10213751
This is like saying you dont know where something is until you have a point of precision of +-.00001 meters.

double blind twin studies are not the only way to determine general trends

>> No.10213761

>>10213751
plus you again miss the point of how the ability to raise a smart child is a factor of intelligence itself, viewed from a genetic standpoint.

>> No.10213785

>>10213756
hyperbolic
>>10213761
the heritability was already pointed out, not enough for your confidence.

>> No.10213803

>>10213785
Ill take this as no argument.

>the heritability of environment is at about 30%
Thats plain dumb

>> No.10213833

>>10210023
I would share my opinion on that book the moment you provide me with a pdf to read it.

>> No.10213850

>>10213785
but if you really want to say that I would ask you what factors were categorized as nature and what factors were categorized as nurture. Like what are you referencing with 30%

>> No.10213865

The cover design is really cool, I'll say

>> No.10213870
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>>10213047
>Funny cause it was released right around the time that chinese scientist went missing after curing aids with crispr

the human resistance from the future sent somebody back in time to get rid of him before he could finish his research

>> No.10213896

>>10213870
or god exists

>> No.10213924

>>10213896
god send the terminator

>> No.10213927

>>10213924
oh shi-

>> No.10214227

>>10213850
genes create personality (50%), personality affects environemnt, therefore, environment is heritable, at a clip of 30%ish.

this means it's still possible that non heritable environment, the 70%, still has a profound impact on the individuals development.

>> No.10214239

i've met jf in person and hes very quiet

>> No.10214244

>>10214239
ok

>> No.10214255

>>10214244
thanks

>> No.10214358

>>10214239
Not surprised. He admits to being kind of autistic, and he even had an autistic girlfriend that was taken away from him for being too goddamn autistic.

>> No.10215154

>>10213865
Yeah, he knows what he's doing in the aesthetic dept.

>> No.10215457

>>10210023
The one non-five star review (which I'm sure are all completely impartial) implied in the end that Gariepy's enthusiasm wasn't sought after in modern academia, and that maybe that's why he's stuck making videos on YouTube. Maybe. It might also have something to do with the fact that he's a white ethnonationalist that has people like David Duke and Richard Spencer on his "show" every other week. That's also a possibility.

>> No.10215604

>>10215457
he's more of a quebec nationalist than a white nationalist to be fair. incidentally he's the person from whom i learned that quebec separatism wasn't just a joke

>> No.10216997

>>10215604
Yeah, I'm sure he'd be fine if his new Quebec was filled with brown and black Muslims.

>> No.10217043

>>10216997
yeah i admit that he's racist

>> No.10217085

>>10213595
Rich blacks are usually brain-dead rappers or basketball players. Not exactly high IQ.
Poor whites are college educated NEETs so they have a high IQ.
It's not a fair study

>> No.10217106

>>10213176
>talking about genetic and environment like its either the one or the other
You're in the wrong here, I've heard him say often that "nature is nurture" and they are intertwined

>> No.10217187

Sneaky non scientific /pol thread

>> No.10217198

>>10217187
it should be scientific but hardly anyone's talking about the topic of the thread, ie the revolutionary phenotype theory, instead just talkikng about the author and the race iq stuff (which has nothing to do with the thread)

>> No.10217246

>RNA lifeforms coopted by DNA lifeforms for replicatory/evolutionary purposes because DNA lifeforms are more effectice
>Gene editing machines/AI will coopt DNA lifeforms for replicatory/evolutionary purposes because gene edited lifeforms are more effective
seems fair
also, this revolutionary phenotype process stems from the same noumena as Capital

>> No.10217297

>>10217198
Says alot about what kind of people like this author.

>> No.10217319

>>10217297
well to be fair he talks about race a lot

>> No.10217325

>>10217319
So this thread was a disguised /pol/ thread after all.

>> No.10217327

>>10217325
not necessarily, whether he talks about race or not has no bearing on his theory about the future of humanity. and race is a scientific topic anyway

>> No.10217440

>>10213576
>we'll see an IQ gap
ofc, but not large enough to explain the IQ gap between black and white populations through purely environmental reasons. besides, much of the environment is a product of populations with a certain IQ threshold, so part of that "environmental difference" is actually a reflection of genetic IQ differences too.

>> No.10217457

I think the idea that we will become outdated is sensible, especially if we become too reliant on higher beings like advanced AI or engineered organisms.