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10209495 No.10209495 [Reply] [Original]

And don't give me the "nothing" bullshit. You people are scientists. THINK. USE YOUR BRAINS.

>> No.10209500

>>10209495
The universe isnt expanding physically. Distances are getting bigger.

>> No.10209502

>>10209500
maybe the photons are getting slower

>> No.10209505

>>10209495
Itself

>> No.10209767

>>10209495
>implying there needs to be a plane in which it exists

>> No.10209779

It's a computer simulation so it's just information.

>> No.10209852

The universe isnt expanding. That is debunked GR bullshit. Its more likely that physics just isnt constant across space and time. Speed of light has changed over time, and electromagnetic coupling is different across space.

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>>10209852
Sauce? Is this the mainstream scientific view?

>> No.10209862

>>10209856
There isnt a mainstream scientific view on the source of the Cosmological constant. Ask 10 top theorists and you will get 10 different answers. No one knows if/how/why things look like they are expanding.

>> No.10209982

>>10209495
The universe is "expanding" into itself. Spacetime, if you need to look at it as something besides a pure abstraction, includes all future configurations of the universe, or more precisely the future spatial dimensions of its matter and energy. We may perceive that the dimensions of the matter and energy around us are changing, but all matter and energy exists and will exist as defined spacetime configurations.

Put another way, as indicated by >>10209500 >>10209852 -- there is no expansion of the dimensions of the universe, just a change in the configuration of the dimensions of its contents. The full topography of these dimensions, the "shape" of the universe, is already and was always complete.

>> No.10209989

its not expanding, everything in space time is just getting exponentially smaller

>> No.10209992

Using our brain means replacing something strange and hard to understand but scientifically sound like "nothing" by some bullshit other world or dimension that seem more normal to you ?

>> No.10210199

>>10209495
Itself

>> No.10210209

>>10209495
The answer actually IS nothing. The problem is we've learned over the last decades that the universe contains energy in the vacuum of space. Dark Energy is what we call it now but as the universe grows bigger Dark Energy increases.

If there's something outside the universe then the energy it contains would be so great as to exert a force into our universe we could certainly measure and which would negatively impact the universe's ability to expand.

So unfortunately the universe doesn't always fit our feeble attempts to understand it and this is just one more case. The universe is truly expanding into 'nothing'

>> No.10210229

>>10209982
that's the generally accepted theory, but you shouldn't speak so definitively

>> No.10210265

>>10209495
Space doesn't really exist. It's just relative distance between galaxies increases.

>> No.10210276

The projection of a single consciousness that is the o ly thing to truly exist

>> No.10210567

>>10210265
space is only noise if you can see

>> No.10210582

>>10209495
The universe isn't expanding, it's just that the definition of distance is changing.

>> No.10210598

>>10210209
Pardon my brainlet conjecture, but here's a thought. What if prior to the big band, the universe was compacted due to the forces outside of the universe, and that it's a cycle of push and pull?

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>>10209495
this

>> No.10210627

The universe isn't actually expanding,energy is shrinking

>> No.10210632

>>10209495
It is expanding into human. What else would you expect?

>> No.10211775

>>10209495
ur mum

>> No.10211784

>>10209856
No, far from it. GR hasn't been debunked, the speed of light hasn't changed over time, it wouldn't even make sense for it to change over time because it's a dimensionful parameter. See: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/34874/has-the-speed-of-light-changed-over-time
There is also no evidence for the fine-structure constant being different in other parts of the universe in space or time, as the second answer to that same question explains.
>>10209862
But that says nothing about the expansion of the universe: the cosmological constant causes the expansion to accelerate or decelerate -- if the lamda was 0, we'd still have an expanding universe.