/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10196525]

Is human pollution more dangerous than climate change? Why isn't science debating overpopulation?

[Anonymous No.10196541]

>>10196525
The reason why climate change is dangerous is because of overpopulation. What do you think will happen when billions of africans and asians are out of food and water?

[Anonymous No.10196552]

>Is human pollution more dangerous than climate change?
No. Human pollution kills some 200,000 Americans a year, but that is a steady figure. Climate change is a much bigger problem. It has the potential to upset the whole country.

There is a very readable summary of the findings over at
https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

[Anonymous No.10196557]

>>10196525
Yes because it caused global warming + some other shit

[Anonymous No.10196560]

>>10196541
Hopefully they die off behind the walls we erect to protect the 1st world countries.

[Anonymous No.10196578]

>>10196541
blah blah blah overpopulation, non of these problems are new. In 1900s we had the same issue just before the mass adoption of the industrial age and proper irrigation techqiues which allowed us the growth we see now.
There needs to be an industrial age 2.0 so we can go from 7.5billion to 20billion.

btw how do we plan to colonize other planets if we are worried about overpopulation?

[Anonymous No.10196588]

>>10196525
"No"

[Anonymous No.10196606]

>>10196525
The solution to overpopulation is middle class aspirations. If you're made a promise by society that your child might become someone important in society if you support them well and they get through a couple of decades of education, you tend to get societies that reproduce only at a level to maintain the population, not increase it. This also requires low infant mortality rates and obv universal access to education and health care, otherwise people tend to have lots of children and sometimes lots of wives too.

You're only seeing increasing population in the west atm because of people living longer.

[Anonymous No.10196623]

>>10196525
>Why isn't science debating overpopulation?
Because that would be racist.

[Anonymous No.10196705]

>less than 5% of the world population cause 15% of carbon dioxide emissions
>THE ISSUE IS OVERPOPULATION
overpopulation of americans maybe

[Anonymous No.10196716]

>Why isn't science debating overpopulation?
convincing people in third world countries to have less kids is harder than trying to convince "educated" americans that they're demand is leeching and trashing the planet, and clearly that's already difficult

[Anonymous No.10196722]

>>10196578
Enjoy living in your shipping container sized box stacked 300 high.

[Anonymous No.10197624]

post extinct animals, must be either extinct from 20th or 21st centuries

[Anonymous No.10197648]

>>10196525
It's called HUMAN RIGHTS, sweetie.

[Anonymous No.10197655]

The big problem is that in places like much of Africa the breeding of people is still very pre-industrial Malthusian style "constant baby production", but because we first worlders help them to stay alive and not die due to capacity failure their population just grows like crazy without anything keeping the numbers in check. And because of our interventions, they will never escape the Malthusian trap and are going to keep breeding and breeding like crazy forever until the carrying capacity of the entire earth fails us all. But we can't stop intervening because of the bleeding heart liberals.

[Anonymous No.10197687]

>>10197655
It seems both political sides have adopted a paradoxical stance.
>liberals want to reduce fossil fuels
>but not prevent overpopulation

>conservatives want to use and use
>and massacre the third world
Either way we're fucked.

[Anonymous No.10198002]

>>10197655
>but because we first worlders help them to stay alive and not die due to capacity failure their population just grows like crazy without anything keeping the numbers in check. And because of our interventions, they will never escape the Malthusian trap and are going to keep breeding and breeding like crazy forever until the carrying capacity of the entire earth fails us all.
That's not just wrong, it's the complete opposite of true. Every population model I've seen shows population growth levelling off as quality of life rises. The longer those countries take to transition, the more children will be born in the interim. Leaving them to develop slowly may well INCREASE the final population.

[Anonymous No.10198411]

>>10197655
African fertiltiy rates are decreasing. Especially in urban area.

[Anonymous No.10198869]

the real overpopulation occurs in africa

[Anonymous No.10198873]

>>10198411
they are still WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too high for my comfort lad

[Anonymous No.10198932]

Yes. Humans are an invasive species destroying the planet, we deserve to be genocided.

[Tuba Jam No.10198979]

>>10196541
something something Americans and Europeans use hundreds of times more carbon than poor Africans and Asians.