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>Is X a meme major?
Unless it is Biomedical, Mechatronics, or Systems Engineering your major XE major is not a “meme”. Additional meme majors include chemical and nuclear engineers. They are challenging degrees but there are just not enough jobs to keep up with graduating students. Many bitter anons in these threads are ChemE students or unemployed ChemE graduates.

>Why is Mechatronics or Bio Engineering a meme degree?
They are often very shallow degrees at the undergraduate level. Students end up becoming a master of none and are outclassed by the more common disciplines. For the longest period of time these courses were only Master/PHD opportunities. A good undergraduate program is very rare for either discipline. Your meme state school isn’t one of those programs.

>I can’t find a job
What is your GPA? What is your experience? Is your resume shit? Do you interview well? When did you start looking?
>GPA
A GPA of 3.0 is the bare minimum for most companies.
>Experience
Experience is helpful but is not needed to get a job. You will have a much tougher time though and will need to grind out applications. College clubs and personal projects are good ways to get at least some experience if it is not professional experience.
>Resume
Post your resume if you want it to be reviewed. Try and quantify actions at your job, don’t just list your responsibilities. If you have no professional experience emphasize your school projects/clubs/personal projects.
>Interviewing
It helps to practice and write down your answers to question that you think you will be asked. Using Glassdoors can be helpful when trying to figure out what kind of questions specific companies ask.
>Candidate
You don’t need to be a 3.9 GPA, 3 internship, non white student to get a job in Engineering. Just keep in mind Apple/Boeing/Broadcom/Google/Intel/etc, don’t generally hire <3.0 GPA no experience autists that are incapable of talking to other human beings.

>> No.10192204

EE student here, thinking about possible master programs. Is photonics a good field? Easy to get relevant jobs?

>> No.10192206

Is pursuing a masters/PhD in EE worth? What can each degree open me up to in the field?

>> No.10192302

>>10192204
Photonics is amazing. Huge boom in the industry right now with no signs of stopping.

>> No.10192389

>>10192302

Cool, it seems like the most interesting master that is available to me!

>> No.10192608

Replying to someone that said that machine learning has nothing to do with EE in the last thread.

My professor was the president of the IEEE Computational Intelligence Society. He now teaches various AI-related courses at the EE department. He also runs the ML lab and has various research projects in AI.

He was working with artificial neural networks before you CS-fags were even born. When someone asked him if CS instead of EE wouldn't be a career better suited for ML, he laughed. He's an EE and he has dedicated his whole life to teaching EE students this subject. And he knows you CS-fags are in on it just for the money.

ML was founded by electrical engineers. You're just co-opting it.

>> No.10192630

EE, waiting on an interview callback I was promised this week. Not had full-time work for over a year, despite applying to many, many places.

>>10192608
I've been told by multiple companies that EE often make better programmers than CS, partially because it's easier to teach the EE's programming the CS majors an engineering mindset. Barring Autism/Sperg jokes, a concrete example is although CS majors might have a better sense of program complexity, in reality programs take a lot of shortcuts, different architectures necessitate or at least ease certain algorithms and models, and if you're not able to handle the restrictions imposed on you, you'll struggle. Even if you knew the very best way of doing something for a platform, in business it might be not worth your time. That's not even accounting for other human beings.

>>10192204
It might depend on where you go. I saw something like 50% of solar development is in California and New York. University I went to has a lot of Electromagnetic and Photonic peoples, and occasionally I see publications from Buffalo University/SUNY University at Buffalo/whatever they call themselves. I wouldn't call the university GOOD in any way, but I wouldn't say all the people who are PhD's are untalented, either. A few people I personally had contact with I'd say they probably make excellent researches, just are terrible people in hospitable-ness or ability to manage their life.

>> No.10192867

Materials Scientist here. Jobless for several months, been looking for a position in R&D. Nothing but rejections. Then a recruiter messaged me on Linkedin and I finally got a job offer, but I'm feeling really hesitant about it. It's an application engineer position, so it would be mainly dealing with customers and sales. I've already had the interview and was pretty much guaranteed that I'd get the job. The managers seemed almost desperate to fill the position.
Any advice? I really need to start working, but I don't want to get locked onto a career path I'd be miserable in (glorified tech support). All I ever wanted was to create stuff.

>> No.10192894

>>10192867
Take the job. TAKE THE JOB. I've been unemployed for less than a year and it's killing me. You can always look for other work than what you're doing. You might also be able to segue into datasheets/technical documents/review processes.

>> No.10192923

>>10192867
This >>10192894
I don't have much experience with anything but having a job while searching for a job is better than the alternative. Personally I would think that the reason why he wants to fill the job is because everyone quits on him so damn quick.

>material scientist
I want to go into material science and engineering, will I be jobless like you or are you a sub 3.0 GPA grad with no internships?

>> No.10192961

>>10192923
I interned and wrote my thesis at a multibillion dollar company (largest in their field, actually - but the connections there didn't open me any doors), but my GPA suffered during my first year and I only graduated with 3.3

>> No.10192992

>>10192302
why is photonics good?

>> No.10193004

>NCEES releases PE exam results today
>Everybody finding out how they did
>Texas results are delayed until tomorrow because state offices are closed

GEORGE HW BUSH IS SCREWING ME FROM THE FUCKING GRAVE GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

Just gonna shove a bottle of makers mark up my ass so i can sleep tonight

>> No.10193028

>>10192608
which uni?

>> No.10193067

>>10192992
Solar technology, fiber optics, crystal science, quantum nano-structures....

>> No.10193091

>>10192992
Metamaterials, on-chip photonic circuits, photonic computers, biosensors, quantum computing, THz devices. Research is exploding in photonics, just check out any OSA journal, almost all the published papers are somehow related to photonics engineering. If you can stomach the actual work, metamaterials is one of the best fields to go into right now.

Solar shills should kill themselves.

>> No.10193103

>>10192867
You should take the job, experience in a customer facing role as an engineer is pretty invaluable - what you gain from solving actual customer problems can be leveraged for future interviews in R&D positions.

>> No.10193126

>>10193091
any universities you know of which do work at the intersections of photonics and quantum computing, biosensors, or photonic computers/circuits?

>> No.10193138

>>10193126
the THz stuff looks super interesting as well. I would love any help on finding relevant universities.

>> No.10193145

>>10193028
Not saying but it's in South America.

>> No.10193147

>>10193004
jesus christ retard calm down. If you're this nervous you didnt do well enough.

>> No.10193151

>>10193126
The Princeton lightwave lab is doing work on neuromorphic photonics in an effort to create photonic neural networks. They recently created a laser that operates much like a neuron by putting a graphene saturable absorber in a fiber ring laser (https://www.nature.com/articles/srep19126).). This is as good as photonic computing gets right now.

John's Hopkins biomedical engineering does a lot of work with biosensors.

UCSD does nanoengineering with a bio-centered track.

You're gonna have to be more specific if you want better answers. What kind of work do you want to do?

Optics and photonics is my wheelhouse so ask away.

>> No.10193157

>>10193138
What kind of THz work do you want to do? Imaging? Spectroscopy? Atmospheric analysis? Wanting to work with "THz stuff" is way too broad.

>> No.10193158

>>10192608
Suck his dick then

>> No.10193194

>>10193145
>South America
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.10193203

>>10193151
Thanks for the help!
I'm a senior looking at colleges, so I guess I might be biting of more than I can chew considering I haven't even finished my college essay yet.
I'm interested in metamaterial, THz imaging, and quantum information, but I'm scared of specializing too early before I can really understand the field and get stuck with something I don't like with few industry prospects.
I know URochester is a good university for an undergrad in optics, but since I have a tendency to keep my options open and get analysis paralysis I was also considering doing just a regular CS degree and taking graduate courses in whatever as I try to get a grasp on myself and the industry. My only qualm with the latter is that it seems to be what everyone does and won't do me any favors in terms of getting REUs or internships. ("oh look, another CSlet who's only interested in this because of popsci memery")

I think I'm lucky in the fact that these fields are emerging so no one is expected to specialize early on.
Do you think I should go for an optics degree or stick with the tried-and-true "well-rounded" undergrad?
P.S. Can you give me scoop on Rochester and UCFs optics specialties? They're two colleges on my list.
Thanks.

>> No.10193218

>>10193203
*"metamaterials", not "metamaterial"
*"whatever interest I'd like to explore", not "whatever"
*"the scoop", not "scoop"
I guess I only alluded to this in my post, but just to be clear I do plan on going into industry unless I fall in love with my specialty or end up becoming a superstar in the subfield. (the latter is highly unlikely lol)

>> No.10193225

>>10193203
>Can you give me scoop on Rochester and UCFs optics specialties? They're two colleges on my list.
I can't, but university of Arizona is one of the best schools in the country for optics.

If you're not even in undergrad yet but know you want to go into photonics I would start by looking up research labs/professors doing something you think sounds cool, and apply to those schools as a physics undergrad. The first 2 years at any uni are basically identical. What you're gonna want to do is get into undergraduate research asap. Getting an internship has almost nothing to do with classes (to a point, aim for a 3.5+ GPA) and way more to do with your soft (social) skills and your actual research experience. A company interviewing you is trying to answer the question: "Can this person actually do engineering work and mesh with the greater team?". Having undergraduate research experience proves you can do work and be useful, and I would recommend joining clubs or a fraternity to develop your social skills if you don't have em already. Don't do a CS degree unless you're pursuing a PhD. You can (and should) learn to code on your own time. I'm a self-taught programmer and I've built in-house data analysis tools on the job without issues. You REALLY want to focus on getting hands on engineering experience, things you can point to and say "this is my contribution, and this is why i did it this way" in an interview.

>> No.10193350

>>10193225
I'm aware of UA's reputation. Unfortunately, I'm out of state (in MA) and poor, and UAs scholarships and meager financial aid probably won't be enough to cover me. I see what you mean about CS not being helpful when self-learning is an option. would I be correct in assuming that reason why you're recommending joining as a physics major rather going straight into and photonics BSes is because it keeps my options open?
A lot of CS internships aren't open to physics majors, but I guess that comes back to what you said about internships being about social skills more than qualifications. Hell, I bet the non-codemonkey ones are for grad students anyways.

>> No.10193358

>>10192630
when it comes to CS jobs/internships, how are applied math and physics majors seen in industry?

>> No.10193399
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10193399

EE/physics double major here.

I have nothing but A's and B's in my EE classes. I have mostly D's and C's in my upper level physics classes.

If I knew physics is so much harder than EE, I would not have picked it up.

>> No.10193519

>>10193399
Lol. How is that even possible. I really hope you're not saying you got a D in E&M as an electrical engineering major. That would be laughably pathetic.

>> No.10193545

>>10193519
Physics version of emag is different from the EE version. It's a lot more theoretical and mathematically rigorous.

Quantum mechanics is the worst though. The math is just insane.

>> No.10193596

>>10193545
What's more mathematically rigorous than a fuckton of vector calculus?

>> No.10193611

>>10193545
Ok well at my school the EE and physics majors take the same E&M course because we don't allow brainlets to get engineering degrees

>> No.10193613

>>10193545
Also lol @ undergraduate qm. Its really not that hard dude. Most of it is the same stuff over and over, solving variations of a particle in a box, a harmonic oscillator, and some kind of rigid rotor.

>> No.10193844 [DELETED] 

>>10192196
is it worth it for me to go back to school, take up a bunch of classes so i can apply for uni in 2-3 years.

Or keep riding the neet wave and get research assistant\pleb tier jobs through contacts.
>24

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>>10193545
Yeah, reading a 400-page book in one semester is normal for a one-semester class. It's normal for your first quiz to have one of the five questions be "write Maxwell's equations in Integral and Derivative form for an electromagnetic wave travelling in free space"

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>>10193869
Ree.

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>>10193871
The professor literally told students to work in groups of 5+ for homework, and if you didn't show work IN WORD you didn't get credit. TA couldn't even explain this shit most of the time.

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10193874

>>10193872
This totally isn't rigorous.

>> No.10193881

Any Romanian CScuck here?
I need some help.

>> No.10194095

>>10193881
with what?
I'm not romanian or a cs major btw

>> No.10194113

>>10193874
what experience did you have with e&m physics before taking this class?

>> No.10194135

>>10193874
yikes what year are you in, I'm HS senior and can only vaguely make sense of the question

>> No.10194172

Any good python 3 book to learn scientific computing?
Wiki books are outdated, using python 2

Also, is python or Matlab really that important to learn?

>> No.10194373

Is engineering physics a meme boys?

>> No.10194561

I live in a shit hole country. Where's the best place in Europe or Asia to study undergraduate EE? Also how hard would it be to actually get admitted there?

>> No.10194583

>>10193874
It's not. This is literally just plug n chug arithmetic.

>> No.10194598

>>10194135
that is 3'rd year physics if the full axiomatic derivations starting from the path of a charged particle in a magnetic field up to at least that point is examinable. Since it's an engineering course they might have just presented those results a page prior.

>> No.10194604

>>10193613
baby's quantum mechanics, our first quantum course in third year hit second order perturbation theory half way through and ended with the derivation of the heuristic atomic physics (chemistry) rules from the spin orbit and other corrections

>> No.10194619

finance is boring and statistics are a horrible meme
ive done undergrad courses on differential+riemannian geometry, classical and fluid mechanix
what type of engineering would be good given a small physics/coding background?

>> No.10194653

>>10194172
Python is great, matlab is also good but not as useful.

>> No.10194657

>>10194604
Depends on the course I guess. Perturbation theory wasn't awful. I took QM as a chemistry class though so we focused on spectroscopy after we got through the basics.

>> No.10194665

>>10193350
Yeah you're better off getting a physics degree with photonics research than a photonics degree IMO.

>> No.10194737

>>10194619
Mechanical

>> No.10194751

Probablt a better question for /g/, but how does software engineering even work?

>> No.10194806

>>10194751
it just werks

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>>10194751

>> No.10194822

>>10192992
lasers bro

>> No.10194980 [DELETED] 

>>10193611
>well at my school the EE and physics majors take the same E&M course
shit school

>> No.10194992

>>10194583
that's one of the reasons physics is harder than engineering. there's a lot less plug-and-chug problems

>> No.10195052

>>10193399
If we tell you physics is harder will you shut the fuck up? There's always some faggoty little comment like this in every thread

>> No.10195057

>>10195052
not the same guy dude

>> No.10195689

>>10194751
Nobody knows. Not even compsci themselves.

>>10194751 ====> >>10194821
Probably the best description you'll ever find.

>> No.10195697

>>10192961
You worry me anon

>> No.10195741

>>10194992
Most problems (in my experience) are half setting up the correct expression, half arithmetic. Its still plug and chug but you gotta have good calculus execution skills to understand that's all it is. Its all about practice problems.

>> No.10195760

What degree should I go for if I want to research genetic engineering and synthetic wombs? I’m a freshman at a CC planning to transfer to a 4 year to get a Biomedical Engineering or Bioengineering degree, but the OP makes me question if I should still do that.

>> No.10195813

>>10195760
Biomedical is designing devices. Bioengineering is designing cells. If you want to do genetics on that level, get into a top bioengineering program and do genetics research with any biochem prof you can. Then leverage your experience into a job or a prestigious research position.

>> No.10195815

>>10192196
Is electronic engineering a meme?, it doesn't get mentioned often here and i'll be studying it for the money and i find it more interesting than software engineering

>> No.10195862

>>10195815
Nah, industrial engineering is the meme of degrees.

>>10193004
sucks to be you, I passed lol

>> No.10195864

>>10195815
It's kind of a meme, just do EE if that's what you want.

>> No.10195875

>>10195815
I'm an EE grad student. I work as a coffee barista because I couldn't find a job with a BSEE.

>> No.10195948

>>10192608
Nice larp. But EE still has almost nothing to do with ML. Any math or CS student is better suited than an EE student.

>> No.10195962

>>10192608
t. NEET who spends all of his miserable life trolling on 4chan

>> No.10195964

>>10193399
Again this physics undergrad larper?

>> No.10195977

>>10195948
He's from some meme third world country, just ignore him.

>> No.10195979

>>10192608
I'm willing to bet you and him are Poojeets.
You Poojeets have a strange hard-on for EE.

>> No.10196561

>>10194095
Ah, sorry. I wanted someone to help me understand how our majors translate in English.
I'm that retarded.

>> No.10196894

Why doesn't anyone ever talk about civil engineering here? is it a dying field or something?

>> No.10196933

>>10196894
It's not real engineering.

>> No.10196965

>>10196894
The civil engineers are too busy at their jobs to shitpost here.

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>>10195862
>Nah, industrial engineering is the meme of degrees.
Get fucked, mate.

>> No.10196994

>>10196933
why isn't it "real" engineering

>> No.10197014

>>10196994
Civil engineers don't actually build anything, they manage people who do.

>> No.10197212

>>10192196
just interviewed at lockheed martin for a systems engineer position. how much should i expect as an entry level, no professional experience, fresh out of college, in terms of salary?
Glassdoor says both 63k and 93k medians

>> No.10197225

>>10197014
cool then ill do that.

>> No.10197238

>>10197212
Depends on location, degree, and education level.

>> No.10197245

>>10197238
physics bachelors. maryland, virginia, pennsylvania. I have a friend working for Northrop Grumman that makes 6 figures as a software engineer so I thought I would be closer to that (85-90 at least). Now Im not so sure

>> No.10197268

>>10196894
They're the biggest normies. Which sounds more normie - designing a highway/bridge or designing a laser/being desktop support with your Software Engineering degree.

>> No.10197315

>>10197245
In those places you could probably get 80 - 90k depending on the job description, plus extra for working in defense.

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10197393

Tfw 3.1, no internships, just a personal project and just signed for $81k/yr in a suburb in the North East. Software Engineering is awesome

>> No.10197520

>>10193399
Same here bro. I'm also doing EE and physics. My physics classes are dropping my GPA big time.

>> No.10197525

>>10195964
>me
>"hi!"
>physics sophomore
>"OMG i have a 107% in the class im taking in the ECE department. My pure physics classes have a 0.00024% grade average haha why is electrical engineering so easy compared to physics ayyy bruh im gay"

>> No.10197745

So these faggots are allowed to have threads centered around career advice on engineering (which is not science and belongs in /diy/) but you delete my threads on career advice related to actual science (physics)?

Explain yourselves mods.

>> No.10197747

>>10197745
Imagine waking up one day and being this gay

>> No.10197962

any good youtube videos that go over example problems in Engineering Mechanics II: Dynamics?

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10198020

Who /PassedThePE/ here?

>> No.10198142

>haven't gone to my digital design class since mid october
>have over a dozen ~1.5 hr video lectures to catch up over the weekend
>final on monday

#yolo :DDDD

>> No.10198269

>>10198020
I'm taking the FE exam in February

>> No.10199153

>>10197745
Physicists dont change the world.

>> No.10199226

>>10199153
Neither do engineers you fucking delusional freshman. You are going to be a plant maintenance worker if you stay down this path. Quit eating up FIRST propaganda.

t. actual engineer

>> No.10199228

>>10198020
Oh boy, now your company can dump all their liability onto you when they fuck up, and hold you criminally responsible instead of the company! YAY!

>> No.10199243

>>10195948

I don't agree, sigproc area of EE has a higher concentration of intelligent people then CS in general and it's more math intensive.

>> No.10199247

>>10192608
>EE IS ALL
>EE IS LIFE
dude you’re embarrassing yourself
Nobody even mentioned CS in this thread

>> No.10199253

>>10192630
It depends. I did recruiting for a good company that hired both CS and EE people for similar positions around HPC, cryptography, and low abstraction architecture. Unfortunately it’s true that CS is wildly inconsistent, but most EE people generally write dogshit solutions. That has little to do with code etiquette and more that they’re not very good at solving original problems under pressure

Good CS programs have grads whose skillset is being good at solving problems in many forms. It’s true that a lot suck, but the ones that are good are ideal new grads because they come in with a skillset that lets them pick up whatever they need.

>> No.10199285

>>10199243
Sigproc research is done by many people in academia. In industry, EE’s use lots of lookup tables and basic tricks to make the hard transforms go away. CS people even have a lot of interesting projects like learning on sigproc, their own sigproc applications, systems optimization when it comes to hardware/software communication, etc. in grad, I see mostly EE, math, physics, and CS grads working in whatever flavor of sigproc they like.

t. EE who eventually went to grad school for RF research

>> No.10199297

>>10199285

I haven't met any competent CS graduate students who are anywhere near the level of the EE people.

>> No.10199405

>>10199297
That has to be a meme. Your average algorithmicist is pretty fucking resourceful. I don’t know what horn you need to toot; CS is not exactly my field, but it’s easy to see that reductions, original algorithms for hard company problems, etc. require smart CS people, and implementation/codemonkeying isn’t the problem they want to solve

>> No.10199426

>>10195864
>>10195875
honestly i'll just do whatever engi for undergrad while i woirk on my math, then i'll do a science postgrad, fuck engi i want to study something for it's own sake like math/philosophy

>> No.10199440

>>10199297
You didn’t address what he said about researchers lol
The research world is very different than industry. You gotta stop marching levels of competence with major after undergrad

>> No.10199484

>>10199440

Bro I have an MS in EE and I took sp,e classes with CS students. Mostly were not very good, the ML people were measurably worse performers in hard math.

>> No.10199489

>>10199484
>ML
You mean random people from different fields who wanted to get their MS in ML to apply statistics to problems? CS grads I’m talking about are systems and theory. I did the PhD in EE gaming systems + sigproc with other CS PhD’s, and they do NOT fuck around.

>> No.10199492

>>10199489
>PhD in gaming systems
Lol autocorrect, meant real-time and embedded systems

>> No.10199512

>>10199226
>t. Retard

Engineers do change the world if they're not brainlets.

t. Actual actual engineer

>> No.10199659

>>10198142

dig des is horrible, you are completely dead.

>> No.10200064

>>10192196
Redpill me on biomed engineering please. I'm honestly a bit clueless about what I wanna do in life, I just started Uni. I know that I'm good with electronics and programming, and ideally I would like to work in a field connected to medicine - or rather connecting men with machines. I'm interested in neuroscience. But I don't want to spend my life in a dead-end field.
I'm currently studying photonics (I wanted to study neuroinformatics but I didn't get in) in one of the best schools in my country. I'm generally thinking about transfering into biomedical engineering next year. But I still have time to decide, so I'm thinking about neuroinformatics, EE and robotics. Which one is the best and has a future? Or should I just stay and try to get into photonics?

>> No.10200115

>>10200064

You should die in a fire you fucking transhumanist scum.

>> No.10200159

>>10199153
lmao eng*neers are so fucking stupid

>> No.10200320

>>10199659
I did really good on the midterm. I'd have to do REALLY bad on the final to not get curved into a B. Which still may happen.

>> No.10200637

>>10200064
Jesus christ read the OP you braindead piece of shit.

>> No.10200645

Any controls engineers here?

Im an Undergrad mechanical and I want to steer in that direction for grad school and beyond, but I'm kind of at a loss how.

>> No.10200936

>>10199226
I dont know where you inferred that from, but you're definitely a brainlet.
>>10200159
Salty physoycist tears, I almost feel sorry for you, almost.

>> No.10200944

>>10193596
Shit ton of PDE's

>> No.10200955

>>10200645
I am not yet, 4th year and leaning toward controls. Shit is fun

>> No.10200985

>>10194737
Is mechanical really harder than electrical engineering? My aeronautical bros seem to think so

>> No.10200989

>>10200985
Everyone thinks their degree is that hardest but in reality microwave engineering is the hardest.

>> No.10201000

>>10196894
Architect here, know a bunch of civil engineers, they get steady jobs, as long as a city grows they will have jobs, problem is there is not really much development for the area. What you know is probably what you will keep needing 40 years from now with a few modifications in between for reduced expenses and increased security. Safe but formulaic choice if you will.

>> No.10201003

>>10201000
Rapidly advancing industries are less thrilling to work in as you age.

>> No.10201020

>>10201003
I dream with the day we develop technology that defies conventional logic. Or at least gets us closer to futuristic Utopias with bionics, lasers forcefields, space colonization and so on. I bet that sort of thing would excite you a lot more than conventional technologies if you were involved in their creation.

>> No.10201042

>>10200985
No, but given the classes you listed it's the one you're most prepared for. Who cares which is the hardest? It's obviously optical engineering.

>> No.10201058

>>10201042
Not same Anon

>> No.10201068

>>10200985
yes definitely

I was an EE who switched to mechanical and the math is a lot more intense in fluid mechanics and heat transfer.

>> No.10201086

>>10195862
>industrial engineering is the meme of degrees
mad jealousy

>> No.10201266

>>10199659
nvm you were right this is impossible and my uni's video lectures are taking forever to buffer RIP my GPA i barely knew thee

>> No.10201381

>>10201068
You didn’t even do the hard EE math if you switched

>> No.10201967

>>10201068
Fluids is just a fuckfest in general, but I love it sometimes

>> No.10202201

>be EE freshman
>have my first "programming for engineers" class
>it's in python
I already started learning C before college started. Wouldn't C be much more useful for an EE than python?

>> No.10202203

Why are there so many EEs in this thread?

>> No.10202210

>>10200320
>curved
God american schools are a meme

>> No.10202212

>>10201068
Fluid mechanics is easy as fuck, what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.10202418

What’s the consensus here on computer engineering?

>> No.10202425

>>10202203
If you notice, CivE and ME are the least in this thread, in spite of being the most numerous irl.

>> No.10202432

>>10202425
You're saying that EE have the 'tism?
Figures, I'm an EE too

>> No.10202440

>>10202203
EE's are by far the most insecure engineering students I've met

>> No.10202452

>>10202212
That's the most ignorant comment I've read on this thread so far. The fact that solving the Navier-Stokes equation for three dimensions is one of the millennium problems should tell you just how math-intensive fluid mechanics is.

>> No.10202514

>>10202203
4chan is for autistic people in general. Just goes to show that EEs are the most autistic out of all engineering disciplines.

>> No.10202616

Turnaround sucks. I've been working a bunch for the last month to try to get shit ready for startup, then in January I have to go on shift for probably like another month. I guess this is the price to pay for being a plant engineer, at least the other 9-10 months of the year are mostly laid back.

>>10200645
For process control, most people study chemical engineering or EE. I'm a process engineer but probably about half of what I do is automation-related and I'm trying to go more in that direction. It can be harder to get into because there's fewer jobs and it seems to me like the people in it hang onto their jobs forever.

>> No.10202648

>>10201381
I took signals, emag and control systems. The only other bad class I heard of that I didn't take was digital communications.

>> No.10202661

>>10202212
Either you didn't take fluid mechanics or you go to a shitty school.

I'm guessing you're an insecure EE who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

>> No.10202708

>>10200064
ee and photonics are both good. There is a lot of research in THz measurement for non-invasive measurement. EE can get you into implants if you do your research right.

>> No.10202712

>>10200944
Ahhh fuck

>> No.10202713

>>10201042
which uni has an optical engineering major?

>> No.10202887

Why do engineering faculties seem to hate their students so much? The advisors here seem to actively work against us.

>> No.10202990

>>10197962
>any good youtube videos that go over example problems in Engineering Mechanics II: Dynamics?

Yea I could use that too

>> No.10203031

>>10202514
Can confirm. Im EE and autistic and have been stuck on 4chan since billy mays and shoop da whoop were in vogue memes

>> No.10203044

>>10202887
Lol your school does that too?

>> No.10203101

Is designing and building stuff in solidworks fun? Is it like putting together legos?

I'm an EE dumbfuck thinking about switching to mechanical engineering.

>> No.10203685

>>10202452
>>10202661
Is this bait? I didn't have any problems with fluids mechanics. I found thermodynamics and heat transfer to be harder.

>> No.10203926

>>10202887
my uni clearly hates its engineering students but the advisors are quite nice. however, lab equipment is ancient, the courses make no sense in their structure, the TAs literally hate you, the buildings are falling apart, etc.

>> No.10204483

just gotta get through thursday so this fucking semester will end holy shit it's felt like a year since august

>> No.10204659

*dabs on my GPA*

>> No.10204795

>>10202210
yes we are a meme compared to european universities but you also have professors who actually care about teaching the material i presume.

we have no such luxury and therefore we live on the curve.

>> No.10204932

AE chads, where you at
ME bros too, blaanda up

>> No.10205030

>>10202713
U of A. Or you can do what most optical engineers do and get a degree in optics and then become an engineer

>> No.10205063

>tfw going into Industrial Engineering

What am I in for bros

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>stochastic process exam on wednesday
>tfw I'm spending my time modding morrowind instead.

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Wat do /sci/? I'm in the last semester of my mechanical engineering degree right now, and I'll graduate somewhere in a 3.2-3.4 range I believe. I'm pretty sure I have a part-time internship lined up through a mutual connection, which could lead to a full-time position lined up, but I'm not willing to bank on that being a permanent position, and it's not exactly what I want to be doing since it'd be drawings and CAD. I am heavily considering grad school, but I'm already in a fair amount of debt as it is, and it'd be moreso to keep my grace period going for a longer period. Should I:

>Graduate, work as much as I can between my wageslave position and this, and take a break for six months
>Graduate, start grad-school half-time, work between grad school, this internship, and retail wageslavery,
>stay in undergrad for another semester to keep collecting financial aid and do what I claimed in the second option

Really don't have any other ideas lined up, but if I'm being honest, I'm pretty burned out on going to college and it isn't like I had a "college experience" anyways. I'm hoping one day to get more into a scientific field, think I really want to go to grad to be a controls engineer or something else software or circuits-heavy but I just don't have the resume or skills for it at an undergrad level right now. (Realized that this was where my interest lied way too late)

>> No.10205210

>>10205184
I wouldn't go to grad school unless your employer is willing to pay for it. Just grind. The ME subreddit is probably more qualified on this.

>> No.10205266

>>10200989
agreed. as I heard from someone in these threads a while ago: "EE is the black magic of engineering, and RF/microwave is the black magic of EE".
There even is a book called "High Speed Digital Design: A Handbook of Black Magic" fucking based

>> No.10205283

>>10200645
in my final year, doing an "advanced controls course" which is basically digital and nonlinear alongside linear in one single course. Everyone else is shitting themselves but I am having a lot of fun. I have actually quite enjoyed the math, however limited exposure in EE is.
My thesis was on control systems as well, researching all the different methods and the heavy math compared to other fields was so cash.
Going to start a job at a company next year, hopefully I'll be able to slide into doing the main controls work soon. enough (it's a pretty small company with lots of flexibility in the EE work).

>> No.10205341

Are student organizations a meme when it comes to building resumes? Has anyone actually benefited professionally from joining a fraternity or intramural sport? I'm chemE prelaw and don't know whether I should join the rugby team or a fraternity. I'm thinking about joining a social fraternity

>> No.10205353

>>10205184
>and it's not exactly what I want to be doing since it'd be drawings and CAD.
>Mechanical engineer
Are you thinking of doing process engineering instead? If not, I have some bad news about your career....

>> No.10205355

>>10192302
>>10192389
>>10192992
>>10193067
>>10193091
>>10194822
>>10193091
>>10193126
>>10193138
>>10193151
>>10193218
>>10193225
>>10193350
>>10194665
PhD in Physics here. There is certainly a boom in a post doc vacancies where you will slave for a peanuts, but there are no actual photonics jobs in industry unless you live in China/Korea and wouldn't mind working in their photonic sweatshop factories.

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>>10192196
Can i have chance as a engineer if i don't have any problems calculating anything, but don't understand even basic theory from physics and math (especially connected to dynamics, geometry, position of objects/points and movement)? I can only think in terms of absolutes, definitives and results with total disregard for everything else, also what gpa of 3.0 means in 1-6 scale?

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>>10205210
Ok, that's one way to look at it I suppose. Thanks, anon.
>>10205353
I think process could be interesting. I went into mechanical because everyone said that it is flexible enough for you to go into other fields. I've been slowly realizing that I'm not as excited about design work, but seems that tends to be what most of my curriculum has been until the last year of engineering.

I'm no dummy though on a lot of those subjects, but I also know that if you threw me into something mechE doesn't focus on, then I'd flounder a bit.

>> No.10205623

>>10205154
Stop doing that, idiot.

>> No.10205695

>>10205063
Try to pick mostly stats, finance and operations research related classes. Ignore all the brainlet business/marketing ones.

>> No.10205709

>>10205353
>>10205402
Process engineering is mostly a chem eng/industrial eng field, there is a lot of competition as well since chem engineers have very few jobs

>> No.10205825

>>10202210
Just to let you guys know, this same dumb faggot that keeps coming here and saying that only American schools curve is misleading you.

I have relatives that work as professors in Europe and they have to curve sometimes as well.

>> No.10205955

>>10205355
Completely false. Tons of opportunities in telecom, on-chip diagnostics, sensors, lidar, ar/vr, etc. Your definition of photonics is too narrow.

>> No.10205964

>>10205955
can you get a job in photonics with a physics bachelor's?

>> No.10206003

I got my ME degree 5 years ago and I'm still doing CAD modeling of lunch trays and other similar items.

Don't fall for the meme. Most STEM graduates do not end up going into cool jobs involving space robots.

>> No.10206031

>>10205341
>is X a meme
fuck off

>>10206003
I make warheads. That's pretty cool.

>> No.10206076

>>10205825
Try again retard, I'm not european.

>> No.10206166

Decide my fate /eng/.

I'm going to double major. For my primary major, it will be either EE or CS. For my secondary major, it will be either physics or pure math.

What would you pick if you were in my shoes and why?

>> No.10206182

>>10206166
CS/math

>> No.10206211

>>10196933
It's literally the oldest engineering discipline retard, it's objectively the most "real" type of engineering

>> No.10206215

>>10206166
EE+math+physics

>> No.10206335

I'm conflicted on whether to do materials (I really like chemistry) or electrical. If I do materials would I find work doing actual materials engineering work (or any work at all for that matter)? I don't mind doing either or but I'm scared if I do materials there wouldn't be anything out there for me

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god fuck this fucking combustion class

I never should have taken it. It's a pain in the dick, "Buckling down" hasn't done shit, and the professor writes soul crushing exams and makes the average a 50 percent all while doing nothing but dumping an assload of homework on us even during exam week. What a way to finish off my final fucking semester of college with this shit

>> No.10206472

>>10206166
There's an absurd amount of EE+Physics double majors on /sci/ and reddit. The spergs who do this, I presume, are terrified of actually living in the real world and having a job, so they double up on the two densest undergrad programs you can possibly take, and oftentimes go for a Masters too and in some cases PhD. Obviously these guys are genuinely pretty smart in terms of raw academic performance, but I don't know how smart you can really be if you voluntarily decide to stay in college until you're pushing 30.

There is zero reason to do this if you actually intend to start a family anytime this decade. But I guess it's fine to do if you just want to LARP as a young person while being a 30 year old boomer, and the idea of leaving campus and having to commute and work in a cubicle for real is a terrifying concept.

>> No.10206740

>>10206472
I'm convinced all of this EE+physics shit is the same guy trolling at this point.

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10206804

Reminder that this is the job market you are signing up for by studying engineering
>inb4 the study isn't valid because arbitrary nitpick reasons and I'm insecure
>inb4 I'm going to get a good job anyway because mommy told me I'm special

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>>10206804
Requesting that comic of some anon going "I'm gonna post it" only for somebody in the back to go "we know"

>> No.10206856

>barely passed physics 1 without studying
Ill make it if I study right?

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>Study HARD for 24 hours straight for a digital circuits test (minus some breaks for eating/bathroom/shower)
>Go to last final of semester
>Do okay enough not to fail the class
>Come home and go to bed
>Sleep for 3 hours before my brain randomly wakes up
>Brain was trying to build a circuit while in my sleep and couldnt and got anxious and woke me up
>Lost sleep because of a nightmare where my brain didnt know how to design a specific circuit

>> No.10206867

>>10206856
Anons will bully you on here because putting down others is how they cope with being completely unlikeable people IRL.

I think it's too early to tell. I hated Physics 1 but still made a B. You will definitely need to change your study habits though

>> No.10206956

>>10206804
>implying burger statistics represent the job market in the rest of the world

LMAO, engineering is doing great in my country, get fucked, burger.

>> No.10206989

Why is BME a meme again?
I was very close to doing BME but i did premed instead.
Isn't BME one of the fastest growing fields?

>> No.10207079

I can fail a class right? If I fail it's not over

>> No.10207085

>>10207079
No physical or state based law prevents you from failing a class. However, you should try and avoid it as best you can.

>> No.10207101

>>10207079
Nah but you better get your shit together m8.

>> No.10207107

>>10206804
engineers can get cs jobs
cs cant get engineering jobs

>> No.10207242

>>10207107
Here is the thing: why would you ever go for an engineering job if you can do a CS job? It's a no-brainer to me.

>> No.10207248

>>10192196
EE here. Does school prestige make up for a lower GPA? I have a overall 2.96 with In major 3.12, and i study at a top 15 EE school in the United states. Does these help push me into the 3.0 area?

Also side note, I finally have a in person interview some time after break for Norfolk Southern. First interview i have for a engineering internship. Any tips? How much will be technical questions and how much other topics?

>> No.10207265

>>10207242
Not the guy your replying to but I thought cs jobs were being outsourced to Indians and similar low wage workers. Also why do you think a cs job would be better than an engineering job? I'm just wondering because I am majoring in engineering but always liked computers and thought it would be an interesting field to study and make a career out of but I was put off by what I thought was an oversaturation of the job market.

On an unrelated note I knew a guy that worked for Walmart as a computer programmer and got laid off. He had trouble finding work, but there could be other reasons that he couldn't get a job.

>> No.10207276

>>10206345
>he average a 50 percent
As it should be. American students are so entitled...

>> No.10207279

>>10205964
Yes, but you better have some pretty good research experience to back it up. Most of the job openings I see are M.S./PhD required.

>> No.10207289

>>10206989
BME bachelor's leaves you too generalized. You know less about biology than biochemists and you know less about any one single subsystem than an ME/EE. You're basically a systems engineer with a biology minor, without any in-depth knowledge of anything. Better to choose a field to be good at for a bachelor's. BME is good as a career option/post graduate degree when you actually have something to bring to the table.

>> No.10207292

>>10207248
Check out a book called "60 seconds and you're hired". Also look up the STAR method for answering interview questions.

>> No.10207347

>>10206166
Better to just do EE and CS.

Your GPA will tank if you pick up physics or math.

>> No.10207361

>>10206472
Some people double major because they want a backup plan if things don't go well.

Being a physicist is a hell of a lot more interesting than being an electrical engineer. Unfortunately, the journey to a career as a physicist is a lot harder. But it's well worth the effort trying. You can't tell me being some dipshit engineer doing cookie cutter work in a cubicle is more enchanting for you than studying mysterious things like dark matter and dark energy.

>> No.10207392

>>10200985
it definitely is in grad school. continuum mechanics is no joke. the math topics are as advanced as what a physicist would need to learn. things like tensor calculus.

>> No.10207400

>>10207361
>t. has never worked as an engineer or researcher

Engineering R&D is vastly more interesting and exciting than dark matter research.

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>>10207400

>> No.10207419

>>10204659
Oof

>> No.10207433

>>10207265
>Also why do you think a cs job would be better than an engineering job?
My friend's total compensation at microsoft is a little over $150k. I make $62k as an ME, and we live in the same area so the cost of living is the same. Same university, same amount of experience, similar skillsets. Yes, your degree really does matter.

>> No.10207511

>>10207433
CS is a meme. All CS jobs will be outsourced within 20 years.

>> No.10207548

>>10207511
No, you are an idiot.

>> No.10207551

>>10207548
t. future unemployed CS graduate retard whose job will go to India

>> No.10207718

>>10207407
Please tell me how looking at mountains of spectroscopy data is more interesting than designing and assembling a device that can sequence the human genome.

>> No.10207753

>>10207433
>ME
At least compare something even remotely similar like EE/CE/SE

>> No.10207826

>>10207265
>I thought cs jobs were being outsourced to Indians and similar low wage workers
>>10207511
>CS is a meme. All CS jobs will be outsourced within 20 years
>>10207551
>t. future unemployed CS graduate retard whose job will go to India
Guess what, I'll discover America for you: engineering jobs can be outsourced to the same Indians just as easily as the CS ones. Nobody stops your employer from laying you off and hiring a dozen Pajeets who would do the same thing you did for 1/3 of your salary. Trust me, there are as many Indians in engineering programs as there are Indians in CS programs, if not more.

>> No.10207852

>>10207826
>engineering jobs can be outsourced to the same Indians just as easily as the CS ones
Maybe if you live in a shithole country without a proper accreditation board.

>> No.10208004

>>10207826
It amazes me how naive you CSfags are.

You need engineers onsite dumbie. That requires a Visa.

>> No.10208048

>start cybernetics masters because it sounds cool and everyones getting hired
>actually a masters degree in applied linear algebra

please kill me

>> No.10208328

Recruiter calling me tomorrow for a job at Lockheed. Not at the interview stage yet, just a phone screen and they may set up an interview if they think I'm not retarded. I graduated in 2016 and haven't found a job since then.

What kind of bullshit can I say when they ask "What have you been doing since you graduated since you haven't had a job?"

>> No.10208334

look at all these inferiors arguing amongst themselves
you never see AE and ME chads doing this shit lmfao

>> No.10208342

>>10208334
AE/ME chads are busy fucking bitches.

The EE/CS autists don't have social skills.

>> No.10208361

>>10208342
The careers themselves sound a lot manlier. Women tend to gravitate more towards men that work on loud roaring engines rather than nerds that program or design electronics lol.

>> No.10208431

>>10208328
>i was the primary caregiver for a family member in a difficult transitional period in their life, and now that they're well again i'm seeking a career
or if you don't want to lie
>i've been actively searching for a job but haven't been able to find the right fit
but whatever you do, don't say
>no one would hire me for the last 3 years

>> No.10208432

>>10208361
>loud roaring engines

Sounds gay af, m8.

>> No.10208448

>>10208361
They can just tell those same women how much money they make and they'll leave you in a heartbeat

>> No.10208453

>>10208448
i have never in my life been asked by any woman how much money i make in whatever job i had at the time

>> No.10208461

>>10208453
Ask me how I know you're the virgin ME and not the Chad EE

>> No.10208463

>>10200115
Kill yourself humanist trash
Nothing human would pass the 21th century

>> No.10208464

>>10208461
but i am EE

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>>10208464

>> No.10208474

>>10208431
Do you think this would work?
>I've been going to my campus for career fairs and I've had several interviews for locations out of state but I had to pass on those jobs because my grandmother had dementia and I wanted to be around to see her before she passed. Now that she's passed away I'm willing to accept local or out of state positions
The position for this job is only 20 minutes away do you think I could say this? It wouldn't be lying in this case so I wouldn't feel any guilt if I went with the primary caregiver story.

>> No.10208486

>>10208474
>he has to justify his lies to a Yemenese llama milking message board
Why?

>> No.10208489

>>10208474
yes that would work
could add "and i think this company would be a good fit" or something like that so it doesn't sound desperate

>>10208486
has to justify them to himself too, he's the one saying it

>> No.10208514

>>10208486
I have to justify my lies to the company I am applying for, so they sound plausible so I can get hired.

>>10208489
>I feel like lockheed martin missiles and fire control would be a good fit for me because I find the defense industry projects they take on to be very exciting and a rewarding indirect way to serve my country.

How about some BS like that. It's for a position at lockheed missiles and fire control so I want to say something relevant to that.

>> No.10208518

>>10208461
>>10208464
poetry writes itself

>> No.10208520

>>10208514
sure

>> No.10208671

Thoughts on working for an oil company in Trinidad? Recent mechE grad (well dunno if May is recent at this point). Couldn't really find work at home all too easily but I know someone there and could get pretty much get the job when the position opens up in January.

I don't want to stay here forever though, in fact I almost didn't/don't want to take it at all, but it is honestly kinda ideal in that I did want to get into the oil industry, mostly for the scheduling.

Also the company is brand new, kinda. Basically the old company was a state owned oil company, but then it went defunct a couple months ago and now two have popped up from it to take its place regarding restructuring and all that business. Good or bad I honestly have no clue.

>> No.10208763

Questions for my EEs bros.

Why do telephone communications use 8 bit PCM and not 16 bit PCM? Is it because it would cause delay?

>> No.10208766

The company I work at laid off half of the software engineers because their work was outsourced.

lol at retards that go into CS.

>> No.10208785

>>10208766
And they will go find jobs that pay even more elsewhere.

>> No.10208794

>>10208766
CS is a useless degree because the information learned in it becomes outdated within years after graduating.

The opposite is true with engineering degrees since design and analysis principles of mechanical and electrical systems stays the same.

>> No.10208841

>>10202418
>Computer Engineering
Also interested in this

>> No.10208842

>>10208766
CS isn't really taught at universities anymore, the real CS path is a math BS and self studying books during free time (this is trivial if you are already doing math)

>> No.10208898

>>10208671
are you american? whats it pay?

>> No.10208951

>>10208763
>doing your homework
fine
voice frequency is 300-4000Hz and the sampling frequency must be at least twice that due to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem

>> No.10208968

The opinions of the naive college students in this thread are absolute cancer.

>> No.10208993

>>10208968
Check r/engineeringstudents if you want cringe, it's 1000 times worse than these retards larping

>> No.10209056

>>10208763
>>10208951
Sampling frequency has nothing to do with bit depth, they're independent. Bit depth is literally just the resolution of those samples, and thus improves audio quality. Every sample is more accurate (less quantization error) and as a result background noise is reduced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9jPppUMbCo
It's an easy way to cut your network load in half with passable quality, but I'd imagine the difference in transmission time would be negligible.

>> No.10209136

>>10202418
>>10208841
Computer Engineering is a very solid choice and you will not regret it. But the classes can be difficult. You'll share a lot of classes with EEs. It's the only other major I would consider t. EE

>> No.10209138

>>10208766
This is why you don't work for a Google, Facebook, Disney, etc. and instead do everything you can to get a job at a place that requires a security clearance e.g. defense contracting

A company can't fire you and replace you with H1B labor if it requires clearance. But this also means you have to have a clean record and pass drug tests.

>> No.10209164

>GPA of 3.0 is the bare minimum
Do they actually contact the schools? I graduated with a 3.1 and it's not mentioned anywhere on my degree, and nobody has ever asked for my transcripts

>> No.10209166

>>10209138
If you only go for jobs requiring clearance, you're limiting yourself to like 5% of the job market at best.

>> No.10209167

>MEchads fuckin hoes and getting fucked by fluids
>EE/CS autists never seeing the light of day

>meanwhile, Industrial & Systems engineers are fucking your bitches and eating their cake too

>> No.10209219

>>10206472
Reminds me of my dad. Double majored in math/engineering and didn't graduate until he was 28. On the bright side he did get access to a lot of prime college pussy. Met my mom when she was 18 and he was 26.

>> No.10209250

>>10206472
>are terrified of actually living in the real world and having a job

University is not job training, you go there literally to learn.

>why doesn't everyone rush to be a used car sells man like me?

>> No.10209302

>>10209166
And? Those 5% of jobs pay a pretty penny. Once you get a clearance you're set for life basically.

>> No.10209304

Could /eng/ enlighten me about material science, aerospace eng, environmental eng, mining eng, petroleum eng and marine/naval eng?

>> No.10209348

Is it to late to get into EE at 23?

>> No.10209606

>>10209348
25 and im starting next semester.never 2 old. maturity will be a blessing

>> No.10209743

>>10208898
Yeah I am. I have a dual citizenship in Trinidad though, and pretty much my entire family lives there though.
I guess around 60-65k

>> No.10209855

Guys I had a phone interview for an out of state position. They just called me and left a voice-mail stating they want to bring me on site for an in person interview now.

I also just had an interview scheduled for a local company that is 20 minutes away and wouldn't require me to move to another state. I much rather would have the local job, and if I do well in the interview and they hire me I will accept the local position.

Should I still allow the company in another state to fly me out to them just in case I fail the local interview? Is it unethical for me to have they go through the money and effort to fly me out to them knowing I will turn them down if this local job decides to hire me?

>> No.10209908

>>10209743
I mean it couldn't hurt to work there for a few years to build experience. Can always c ok me to the US with the experience and have a easier time getting a job.

>> No.10209917

>>10209855
Fuck Em. You need to look out for yourself. If the local goes bad and you don't get the job, would you take a position out of state? If yes do it if not, than tell them right now that you are not interested.

>> No.10209944

Why do people think EE is the most difficult undergrad major?

>> No.10209949

lads how get job

>> No.10209955

do any of you fags minor/minored in something? Im looking at EE or applied mathematics

>> No.10209963

>>10209917
> If the local goes bad and you don't get the job, would you take a position out of state?
Yes I am definitely taking the out of state if the local goes bad. Would probably try to find a new job back in my home state after 1-2 years using the experience from the out of state job though.

What do I do if the out of state job gives me an offer and I'm still waiting for an offer or a rejection from the local job? These engineering companies take like 3 weeks or a month to get back to me sometimes.

>> No.10209964

>>10209944
>muh electromagnetism
>muh signal processing
>muh pcb design

Because most people are bad at everything and EE takes attention to detail and some counterintuitive thinking to do well in.

>> No.10209968

>>10209944

It is, only the most alphas can enter to EE, brainlets go to other majors and cope for their entire lives.

>> No.10209974

>>10209968
EEfags make the best comedians

>> No.10209976

>>>/x/21875350

>> No.10209978

>>10209974
>tfw females like comedy
Alphas.

>> No.10209984

>>10209974
t. Coping brainlet normie engineering major

>> No.10209991

>>10209984
sorry but Im an AEchad
You can keep your ideas bound to the ground if you so wish
>>10209978
I get more bitches daily than you ever will

>> No.10210019

>>10209991
>I get more bitches daily than you ever will
1) you dont
2) People who do don’t brag about it on the internet.

>> No.10210028

something something seethe something something cope

>> No.10210033

>>10210019
seething

>> No.10210076

>>10209944
Because it's the most math intensive major after math and physics. Now add to that an engineer's workload.

Not everyone can become an EE, you either have it or you don’t, EEs simply just think differently.

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>>10210076

>> No.10210630

>>10209963
State that you will need to consult with your family as they are concerned about some reason for your leaving. A girlfriend wanting to finish her last year of college or you need to help manage the estate of your grandmother.

Or you can just say you need some to think about it.

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>>10209167
Absolutely this.
And we even get paid the same or oftentimes more ===> >>10196967

t. IE, laughing at all other engi autists

>> No.10211141

anybody type in 4chan.org/sci and forget the a? I did that and my computer has been running kind of slow lately.

does that site have a virus?

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I'm graduating with my Masters in structural engineering from Georgia Tech in two days, and I'm somewhat considering sticking around to complete my PhD. Someone talk me out of doing this

>> No.10211317

>>10209348
I am 35. I am a 4th year now (in internship). I started with 1 child in first year and my son was born just after 2nd year.

I did 6 classes first semester of 3rd year while working as a research assistant and I had a new born that didn't sleep, like more than 2 hours straight for the first year.

I barely survived but I pulled a 3.2 gpa that semester and a 3.4 the next with no more that a broken 4-5 hours of sleep for a year.

GET ON MY LEVEL

>> No.10211348

>>10199405
>algorithmicist
cringe

>> No.10211354

>>10192196
Is there any youtube channel or other online resource like Zahi Haddad? I don't like my professors

>> No.10211358

>>10211317
Respect

>> No.10211395

>>10211309
a little hard for me to believe a dumbfuck asking for career advice on 4chan is in grad school at georgia tech

>> No.10211623

>>10209348
Im an EE junior and I started college as a 22 year old freshman. There are a lot of guys in my classes who are just as old as me and a couple older.

Some of them are ex military, some of them started college at 18 and flunked out after partying and re-enrolled when they were felt they were more mature, some just worked meme retail jobs before getting serious.

I think young people are completely betrayed by society and their parents in this day and age. My dad told me stories about how his parents made him get an engineering degree. What does my dad tell me? He tells me "lol follow ur dreams lmao" so I didnt do fucking anything.

No one knows what career is a good idea at age 18. No one knows jacks shit about the world at age 18. But all our dumb boomer beatnik parents are so goddamn afraid to actually be a fucking authority figure for once in their goddamn lives, so they just parrot some meme bullshit "if u do what u love u never work day in ur life XDDDD"

It's AIDS and retarded and the reason why our unis and corporations are full of foreign students and foreign skilled laborers. An immigrant comes to the US, their parents tell them "you'd better be a fucking dentist or a doctor or an engineer" but American kids dont get that treatment from their parents.

It's a topsy turvy retarded carnival mirror world we live in. I literally bully my younger family members into getting STEM degrees. Idgaf. No one in society wants to help youths they just feed them this participation trophy 'everyones a winner' bullshit, then wonder why millenials cant afford houses

>> No.10211633

>>10211623
Ok buddy calm down. If you don't know what you want to do by the time you're an adult you're never gonna get anywhere in life.

>> No.10211648

>>10211633
No one cares what you have so say, faggot.

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>>10211395
habeeb it

>> No.10212059

>>10211623
Stop fucking telling people to go into stem. The whole point of why it's great is high pay due to high demand and low supply. If you increase supply you'll drive the wages down and make it more difficult to find work.

>> No.10212080

>>10212059
The supply limit is given by IQ distribution, you could push more people but it will definitely decrease quality

>> No.10212152

>>10211819
I don't know much about anything but I seriously wouldn't bother with a PhD unless you had a very specific goal that required it, like being a professor or whatever. If you want to do R&D you can do that with a masters. You're already looking around around 100k/yr USD with a masters from GA tech at pretty much any company. I would start working ASAP in your position and saving money, get a cushy job in Atlanta, or relocate to another state, whatever. Start paying off a suburban home somehwere and have some kids.

>> No.10212407

>>10211623
I would disagree, for most people, a four year university for most people is a terrible financial decision. Not everyone is cut out to be an engineer or doctor, and incurring thousands of dollars in debt just to get a “degree” because the public school system and your boomer parents told you to do so is a terrible idea. Obviously the people posting here are part of the exception and won’t be wasting money on a completely useless degree for the “college experience”, but I would still suggest going to community college first looking and looking at other means of graduating school debt free.

>> No.10213194

>86% in circuits
>need 99% on final to get an A
Looks like I’m not studying for this class. Happy holidays!

>> No.10213197

>>10211819
Hey, I’m going to grad school next semester at georgia tech. How do you like it?
>>10212059
Better advice would be to tell someone to go to school for what they enjoy.

>> No.10213290

>>10205341
You could join an engineering team. I know my school's got a ChemE Car team.

>> No.10213301

Is having brain damage a prerequisite for working in HVAC? Wtf is this shit? My coworkers are retarded.

>> No.10213465

>>10212407
I never said "everyone should be an engineer". I said I pressure my younger family members, who I know are smart and have financial backing of our family, but are simply ruddlerless and not told what to major in, that I give them advice on what to major in. Specifically majors that our family has connections to so that they can have an entry point into a well paying field.

Furthermore one should only go to university to become a dentist, doctor, or engineer. Otherwise it's a much smarter decision to learn a trade/get certs. I don't disagree with that. But in this specific case, I was smart enough to get an engineering degree as I come from a good stock and I have the backing of a financial support network so it was simply the objectively best decision to make however, as I lament in my post, no one else pointed this out to me and would have totally supported me had I gone into English or some stupid meme degree.

That is what Im describing. Im not saying everyone should be an engineer. Please try to assume I'm not completely retarded and think eveyone in our society needs a BSc

>> No.10213472

What exactly do material scientists and environmental engineers?
The tiny ass school of mines I want to go offers them, but I don't have the slightest clue what they exactly do.

>> No.10213823

>>10213472
>What exactly do material scientists and environmental engineers?

they suck each other's dicks all day

>> No.10214184

>>10196894
Civil engineering is the least autistic one out of all of them, hence why you don't see much of them around on /sci/. They have a good salary, stable jobs opportunities, females inside their classrooms and don't really need to invent anything on their own.

It's the most rational pick if your own wellbeing is something you prioritise.

>> No.10214346

Thinking about doing biomedical engineering, is it shit ?

My second option is computer engineering

I really like math and phisics, but i am shit at them.I am thinking of trying to learn them from the begining, maybe it fixes my problem, what do you guys think ?

Also my dream would be mechanical engineering, but by the reasons mentioned above, i decided to not try.

>> No.10214672

>>10205955
can you give some examples?
>>10193157
I'm interested imaging mostly, possibly with computer vision in LIDAR or noninvasive medical diagnostics
>>10193151
tfw you will never get in to any of these colleges

>> No.10214713

>>10208004
you also need data scientists and operation researchers on site, both of which can be reached by having a CS degree. Also, many engineering jobs are off site CAD monkey stuff that can easily be outsourced or even automated.
Guess who's going to be doing the automating?

>> No.10214764

>>10208048
>not checking the courses
you could try to figure out where people are being hired and why. Network. Work on stuff relevant to your target industry on your own.

>>10209743
make sure you have a plan in case the petroleum industry has a recession. Lots of stranded petro engs when that happens. Try to think longer term and build transferrable skills if you do decide to work. If you get fired/laid off I guess you could pivot to a different industry by getting a masters. If your company has any opportunities to do computer vision, AI, or management then definitely try to learn those skills.

>>10208794
CS degree =/= software engineering, although you might have a point for the significant portion who due to the bare minimum to pass. Note that at the top levels of any industry you need to keep up on your domain knowledge, so if you don't like that idea prepare to stay around the level of principal/senior engineer.

>>10209302
>once I get x I'm set for life
I'd say that's a bad mindset, but the I realized
you seem well-suited for government defense contracting.

>>10209304
I think the best thing is to work, search the BLS, and read about actual professionals experiences on engineering forums and Quora, in increasing order of how much it would help you.

>> No.10214777

>>10209944
it has fairly advanced minimum requirements and lots of credits like any engineering degree. Of course, if your uni has a graduate school in your major any major can be as hard as you make it, but most stick with the bare minimum, of which EE's is both very cerebral AND work-intensive. There are many hard-working brainlets and lazy geniuses, but few with enough of bot necessary for an EE degree.

>>10209963
if nothing else you can get some interviewing experience.

>>10209991
reminder that your major is truly over saturated. Do you have any internships or personal projects to make yourself stand out? either way, you'll never be as chad as the IEs. speaking of IE, >>10210964 do you know what industry/company you plan on working after graduation? I'm interested in IE but it seems as if the large companies which could use an IE the most are the ones who are least likely to understand what an IE could do for them.

>>10213465
a lot of financial stuff also often requires a degree, and the requisite research experience is often impossible to get outside of academia, but I agree with you on the fact that trade/community college is a good place to start
>t. hypocrite who'll probably go four full years at a big university because that's what I'm suppose to do
I am thinking about applying in the spring to get as many credits as humanly possible from CC over the fall. Anyone have thoughts on how coming a semester late might affect my potential social life?

>> No.10214786

>>10213472
colorado? material scientists work with material, environmental engineering is mostly a meme.

>>10214184
I think its because CivE isn't "sexy" so most don't apply, but only switch if they can't handle the tough majors. Thus, the incredible geniuses of /eng/ don't end up in a field as impure as CivE.

>>10214346
why do you want to do biomedE? try to self teach yourself using khanacademy and the /sci/ wiki.

>> No.10214871

>>10213472
Mines is only "okay" for their Metallurgical and Materials Engineering and from my experience it was really metals and corrosion focused. I still have no idea what type of job I'll be doing though.
t. Oredigger transferring to another school