/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10183389]

God damn... and I really respected this guy, too.

>Two More Women Accuse Neil deGrasse Tyson of Sexual Misconduct

>Two more women, including a fellow astronomer, say Neil deGrasse Tyson is guilty of inappropriate sexual conduct.

>Dr. Katelyn N. Allers, Associate Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Bucknell University, told me that she was "felt up" by Tyson at an after-party following a meeting of the American Astronomical Society (AAS) in 2009. AAS didn't have a mechanism for reporting sexual harassment at the time, but Dr. Allers says she probably would report the incident if it had happened today.

- https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2018/11/two-more-women-accuse-neil-degrasse-tyson-of-sexual-misconduct/

[Anonymous No.10183392]

>>10183389
Why are you giving so much authority to these cunts? Why do you keep spamming this board with this?

[Anonymous No.10183420]

>>10183392
OP dedicates their life to subversion

[Anonymous No.10183433]

The dude did nothing wrong other than one arguably creepy comment. He should sue these women

[Anonymous No.10183434]

>>10183389
Aaaaaaaand it's a nigger. Every. Single. Time.

[Anonymous No.10183459]

He's obnoxious enough to check under a woman's dress to see if she tattooed Pluto. I believe his denial.

[Anonymous No.10183954]

>>10183392
OP hates niggers more than women

[Anonymous No.10183974]

Not science or math

[Anonymous No.10183992]

>literally no evidence
I don't like black science man but roasties jumping on the rape bandwagon doesn't mean anything

[Anonymous No.10184323]

>>10183389
>>>[*".tenalp a SI otulP"*]

[Anonymous No.10184357]

>Patheos
>Patheos.com is the premier online destination to engage in the global dialogue about religion and spirituality, and to explore and experience the world's beliefs. Patheos is the website of choice for the millions of people looking for credible and balanced information about religion.

[Anonymous No.10184544]

>>10183389
Two more accusations, both of which have no astronomical significance.

[Anonymous No.10184559]

Prove it happened. You can’t. Into the toilet. Hilarious when you apply the scientific method to woman’s BS.

[Anonymous No.10184586]

>>10183389
doesn't surprise me, niggers aren't civilized like eurasians are.

[Anonymous No.10184589]

>>10184586
>Lol I believe baseless accusations because they confirm my racist bias

[Anonymous No.10184600]

>>10183392
/pol/ is almost exclusively a racist at all costs board, they don't care about anything else

[Anonymous No.10184603]

>>10183433
In any other country he could sue for libel and win. And he could also sue the newspapers for defaming him and win.

[Anonymous No.10184609]

>>10184589
I said it doesn't surprise me, not that I believed by default.
also i admit to hating niggers

[Anonymous No.10184645]

>>10183434
Were you in a coma and missed all the accusations against wh*Toids recently?

[Anonymous No.10184649]

>>10184586
see >>10184645

[Anonymous No.10184789]

>>10184603
Why can't he in this country?>

[Anonymous No.10184795]

>>10184323
no it's not

[Anonymous No.10184812]

>>10183389

>God damn... and I really respected this guy, too.

lol what are you talking about? He gets more pussy than most physicists. he's based af

[Anonymous No.10184816]

>>10183389
I respect him more now.

[Anonymous No.10184818]

>>10184586
>eurasians
why are you faggots saying this now? your ancestors have lived in europe for 3-4000 years and are from western eurasia for even longer than that. you think steppe niggers are polite or at all respectful towards women?

[Anonymous No.10184918]

>>10183389
>god damn i really respected this guy too
>uses reddit spacing
What a shocker

[Anonymous No.10185146]

>>10183389
I'm indifferent towards BSM

But I'm glad this cunt got banished from the spotlight

[Anonymous No.10185160]

>>10184559
Who cares? It's hilarious when some supplicating faggot gets metoo'd.

[Anonymous No.10185169]

I love watching liberals cannibalize themselves. Whos next?
>bill nye
>adam savage

[Anonymous No.10185178]

>>10185160
No it’s not.

[Anonymous No.10185181]

Adolf Hitler was a migrant.

[Anonymous No.10185183]

>>10185169
Sounds like "the liberals" are the ones who stay true to their convictions, rather than making egregious concessions just because you're on the "same team."

[Anonymous No.10185186]

>>10185169
>adam savage
doubt it, if that happens then vsauce is next

[Anonymous No.10185200]

>>10183389
>accusations
innocent until proven guilty.

[Anonymous No.10185201]

>>10185183
It's absolutely nothing about staying true to your convictions, it's about women seeing an opportunity to get attention and taking it. The people who pretend to be outraged over this are also doing it for selfish reasons, it's an easy way to score brownie points in the eyes of their peers. Nobody involved in this gives a flying fuck about integrity or consistency, they're all in it for self serving reasons. Just like everybody ever no matter which side you're on.

[Anonymous No.10185215]

>>10185201
>their moral system is based on morals they don't actually believe in!
Stupid nonsense

[Anonymous No.10185219]

>>10183459
>He's obnoxious enough to check under a woman's dress to see if she tattooed Pluto.
I would too.

[Anonymous No.10185225]

>>10185215
Morals are inherently selfserving. Nobody would willingly dedicate time and effort into the upkeep of a system if they didn't believe they got something out of it someday.

[Anonymous No.10185243]

>>10185186
Vsauce is a closet home. Men can't be part of #metoo

[Anonymous No.10185248]

>>10183389
Whatever happens, Neil "The Grass" Tyson is still an incredibly smug cockwomble. Nothing but schadenfreude.

[Anonymous No.10185296]

>>10185183
As someone who lives in Portland, one of the "liberal capitals of the country," they have an odd habit of letting shit slide if it involves someone "on the same team."

[Anonymous No.10185305]

>>10183389
Shame on you for respecting a popsci do nothing timebomb

[Anonymous No.10185369]

>>10185225
What if they believe it is ultimately self-serving to maintain such a system?

[Anonymous No.10185411]

>>10185369
Then their morals are in conflict with the system in place and they'll most likely wish to remove it and replace it with system that is to their liking, but every bit as self-serving as the one before it.

[Anonymous No.10185423]

>>10185411
>Then their morals are in conflict with the system in place
What?

[Anonymous No.10185477]

>>10185411
You seem confused. Selfishness actually encourages the consistent application of a moral code if you believe the purpose of that code is to serve you.

[Anonymous No.10185482]

>>10183389
>having a modicum of respect for "more stars in the universe than atoms in the universe" tv man

>>10184600
>it's /pol/'s fault meme science man sexually assaulted women

This board is pathetic

[Anonymous No.10185484]

>>10185482
So suddenly because he's black he actually did it?
You guys deny it when Kavanauh assaults someone but not when the guy is black.

[Anonymous No.10185496]

>>10185484
Of course I believe he has a right to a fair trial you troglodyte, and if he is proven innocent then that is all well and good, however the fact that Watson actually reported the misconduct gives much more credibility to her claims than Christine "I remember literally nothing about the incident BUT IT TOTALLY HAPPENED YOU GUYS!!!" Ford. I shouldn't have worded my previous post like it's a fact that he did but whatever, it's a greentext so who cares.

This has literally nothing to do with his race. If Bill Nye was credibly accused of sexual assault I would be saying the same exact thing. You are the one who is making a sexual assault investigation racially charged and you should be ashamed.

[Anonymous No.10185501]

>>10183389
>Two More Women Accuse Neil deGrasse Tyson of Sexual Misconduct

this is my opinion on the matter
not only regarding Tyson

take it to court the same day it happened or the day after, or shut the fuck up with your imaginary problems

[Anonymous No.10185506]

>>10185484
>Tyson literally admits two of the incidents happened in his facebook post
>"wow why aren't you denying it you hypocrites?"

[Anonymous No.10185510]

>>10185506
>Tyson literally admits two of the incidents happened in his facebook post

I don't give a fuck.

If he did something criminal they would lock him up. Is he in jail?

[Anonymous No.10185513]

>>10185477
You're the one who's confused here. People generally don't believe that being selfish is particularly moral. Most groups often try to paint a picture of their ooposition as being selfish and uncaring while portraying themselves as the opposite. People will always prefer to rationalize their selfishness as something more noble whether or not that selfishness produces results or not. Also take your pics back to /pol/, this is /sci/.

[Anonymous No.10185516]

>>10185510
>"because of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle it's impossible for my goalposts to be stationary"- NDTfag

[Anonymous No.10185551]

>>10185496

>gives much more creditability to her claims
>Watson said Tyson occasionally made “misogynistic comments,” and that he kept a list of overweight actresses on his phone to prove that women aren’t inhibited by portrayals in the media when it comes to health and fitness. He allegedly said it was untrue that women feel pressured to be skinny based on societal standards.

Exactly what credible "misconduct" is present here? Unless I missed something it's not like they were naked or pornographic pictures that he showed her. It may come off as creepy or poor taste but just like the Galaxy tattoo and handshake nothing fully inappropriate occurred to warrant sexual misconduct or assualt.

I feel like everyone is dancing around the fact that the large majority of scientists have no game in terms of talking to women. Just because Tyson has a wife/kid and seems confident in talking science/education material doesn't mean it fully translates into other sectors. And honestly talking about certain topics with the average woman will always trigger a creep response. Try talking to a woman about non-dualism for an half-hour and bring up how everyone experiences rape in their past/current lives (depending on the philosophic interpretation utilized here) and everyone is evil including the victims of evil and see how well the woman responds to such a lecture. Protip it won't go well.

[Anonymous No.10185590]

>>10185506
He's not in his right mind. A scientist is not a regular movie star. He's more important than people who don't contribute to the human race.
He must be trying to look the bigger person.

[Anonymous No.10185634]

>>10185551
>Protip

Real Protip here: Don't talk to women ever. Nothing good will come of it.

[Anonymous No.10185643]

>>10183992
how did you leak out of incels.me anyway

>>10183974
agreed. this is pol shit, it does not belong here.

[Anonymous No.10185665]

>>10185496
>and if he is proven innocent
What? There has to be proof that he's guilty. Otherwise there is a presumption of innocence, just so you remember.

[Anonymous No.10186237]

>>10185513
>People generally don't believe that being selfish is particularly moral.
But selfishness itself has little to do with morality. Nobody says, for example, that it's immoral to keep your own heart even though you could kill yourself and selflessly donate it to someone in need.
And if you know this isn't /pol/, why are you projecting autistic reductionist fallacies?
>Infant cannibalism is fine. Trust me, I know for a fact most people don't actually think it's wrong. They're just virtue signaling or afraid of being caught while demonizing the other side.

[Anonymous No.10186267]

>>10184789
America has a higher than average bar for convicting for libel or slander

[Anonymous No.10186523]

>I am asked by thousands of people per year to take pictures with them. A flattering, time consuming, but delightful chore. As many in my fan-base can attest, I get almost giddy if I notice you’re wearing cosmic bling – clothing or jewelry or tattoos that portray the universe, either scientifically or artistically. And I make it a priority to point out these adornments for the photograph.
A colleague at a well attended, after-conference, social gathering came up to me to ask for a photograph. She was wearing short pants with a tattooed solar system extending up the posterior of her upper thigh. And while I don’t explicitly remember searching for Uranus, it is surely something I might have done in that situation. I was reported to have “groped” her by searching “up her pants”, while I said “and here’s Uranus” when this was simply a search on the covered part of her pants. I only just learned (nine years after) that she thought this behavior creepy.

[Anonymous No.10186919]

>>10184918
>legibility = reddit spacing

[Anonymous No.10187021]

>>10183389

[Anonymous No.10187028]

>>10186237
>But selfishness itself has little to do with morality.
That's not what you've been saying here.
>Nobody says, for example, that it's immoral to keep your own heart even though you could kill yourself and selflessly donate it to someone in need.
They don't because suicide is considered selfish and thus immoral.
>And if you know this isn't /pol/, why are you projecting autistic reductionist fallacies?
If you know this isn't /pol/, why are you arguing using autistic strawmen like
>Infant cannibalism is fine. Trust me, I know for a fact most people don't actually think it's wrong. They're just virtue signaling or afraid of being caught while demonizing the other side.

[Anonymous No.10187281]

Guys on the right
>sexual offenders or promoters of it
>ugly
>arrogant
>have stupid opinions

Guys on the left
>healthy sexual lives, beautiful wifes
>handsome
>humble, they don't go around spouting nonsense about other fields

[Anonymous No.10187287]

>>10187281
>healthy sexual lives, beautiful wives
Anon I like Einstein as much as the next guy but....

[Anonymous No.10187366]

>>10187281
>don't go around spouting nonsense about other fields
probably cause they were scientists, not philosophers of science

[Anonymous No.10187397]

>>10185482
>>10185496
>muh sexual assault
>credibly accused
please fucking kys white knight

[Anonymous No.10187478]

>>10185590
But Tyson is neither.

[Anonymous No.10187611]

>>10183389
>>>/trash/
All of you, get in the can.

[Anonymous No.10187816]

>>10187028
>That's not what you've been saying here.
But it is.
>They don't because suicide is considered selfish and thus immoral.
Flimsy reasoning. Suicide can be selfless. Consider the soldier who leaps on a grenade to save his buddies. Now what?
>If you know this isn't /pol/, why are you arguing using autistic strawmen
It's not a strawman, it's your "argument", distilled. Erroneously assume everyone is pretending and then lean on that assumption to dismiss their convictions.

[Anonymous No.10187877]

>>10185551
>he kept a list of overweight actresses on his phone to prove that women aren’t inhibited by portrayals in the media when it comes to health and fitness. He allegedly said it was untrue that women feel pressured to be skinny based on societal standards.

BASED

[Anonymous No.10187882]

>>10187816
>But it is.
You claim that
>But selfishness itself has little to do with morality.
while you yourself argued before that
>Selfishness actually encourages the consistent application of a moral code
If selfishness has so little to do with morality, why argue about it in the first place?
>Flimsy reasoning. Suicide can be selfless. Consider the soldier who leaps on a grenade to save his buddies. Now what?
Missing the point. The selfishness of suicide is debatable, but the reality is that most people still consider it a selfish act in general whether you agree with that or not. I personally agree with you, but that doesn't matter when discussing perceptions and views of people in general.
>It's not a strawman, it's your "argument", distilled. Erroneously assume everyone is pretending and then lean on that assumption to dismiss their convictions.
Your strawman makes it seem as if I considered sexual harrasment acceptable while I never expressed such an opinion.

[Anonymous No.10187890]

>>10185496
What fucking "trail"? None of these people are being sued, there are no official cases filed against them and so they can never be proven innocent. It's the exact same tactic crazy leftists have used ever since mattress girl (she has still had zero repercussions, and the whole saga is still detrimental to actual rape victims). Just launch a media crusade and no one can defend themselves.

The lesson here is to do what wallstreet men are doing, just stay away from lefty women entirely. In a best case scenario they just use men to advance their own careers. Failing that they throw tantrums in the media. Don't talk to them outside of work and avoid them at work as much as possible. Stick to the rational boys and girls. Go home and fuck your wife.

[Anonymous No.10187902]

>>10187890
>just stay away from lefty women
It's true. They will just take one comment out of context and use it to hurt you if they feel they can gain some kind of power.

[Anonymous No.10187906]

>>10187902
Even if they come to you and ask you for help, and you actually help them, they will then file complaints against you for "mansplaining". Those women are outright crazy and desperate for any sort of attention/non-merital promotion.

When a lefty women asks me for something I make excuses to be elsewhere. The only women I actually help/promote and interact with at work are those who are not politcal and have bfs/husbands/normal hobbies and I have talked about my girlfriend/hobbies before. Watch out for the beta orbiting incels too. Luckily most people are normal and they will support you if you are friendly with them.

[Anonymous No.10189109]

>>10187890
>stay away from lefty women entirely
I have noticed this too. Right wing women are very pleasant if they're not doing it as a gimmick.

[Anonymous No.10190302]

>>10183389
Damnnnn my niggah

[Anonymous No.10190677]

>>10185183
Didn't one of the metoo movement figureheads rape a boy she'd known since he was like 8 years old and paid him to keep quiet about it, then everybody in the media kissed her ass about being a brave womyn trapped by an unfair system when it was found out? People were unironically saying men can't be raped to defend her. SHE defended HERSELF saying she couldn't have raped him because he's a man and she's a woman.

[Anonymous No.10190799]

>>10183389
>I really respected this guy, too.
Why?
He has ZERO meaningful papers of his own. His contributions to science are nil. He's a figurehead selected because of his race.

[Anonymous No.10190967]

>>10183389
First "sexist" Stephen William Hawking, next "rape" by Lawrence Krauss, now "rape" by Neil deGrasse Tyson...
This is getting more and more ridiculous...
Fuck these attention whores...

[Anonymous No.10190983]

>>10183389
wtf I love black science man now

[Anonymous No.10190988]

I wonder if black people are pissed at him.

[Anonymous No.10190990]

>>10183389
This isn’t science, Tyson is a meme

[Anonymous No.10191006]

>>10190799
Proof? Are you in the know of his work?

[Anonymous No.10191084]

>>10184600
4chan is pol

[Anonymous No.10191087]

>>10185183
Liberals have no convictions or morals

[Anonymous No.10191089]

>>10190677
Because that guy apparently liked it

[Anonymous No.10191143]

he was an insufferable prick even before the allegations surfaced

[Anonymous No.10191178]

>>10183389
OH NO! Le epic reddit science guy is in trouble!

[Anonymous No.10191264]

>>10185169
The true cancer is basing your personal identity on celebrities who dont and will never know you. If a celebrity has to be burned, so be it.

[Anonymous No.10191398]

>>10190677
It was Asia Argento, and nobody defended her. She was famously repudiated by Rose McGowan, a fellow leader of metoo. Please provide source if you are so sure. Don't spread lies.

[Anonymous No.10191575]

>>10184600
>>10185484
/pol/ hates based on ideology as well as race. If Kavanaugh was a liberal they would have spammed every board about how he is a rapist instead of reeing about due process.

[Anonymous No.10192099]

>>10185484
>So suddenly because he's black he actually did it?
Yes
>You guys deny it when Kavanauh assaults someone but not when the guy is black.
Yes

That's kinda the point of being racist. We treat people differently based on their skin color.

[Anonymous No.10192109]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvMlUepVgbA

Watch how Tyson attacks a real black scientist when he realizes he's in the presence of a greater intellect and his position and token black science guy is in danger.

>continuous interruptions
>wild hand gestures and body language
>quotes wigner because he has nothing of substance to say

Is NDT the annoying jock of science?

[Anonymous No.10192124]

>>10183389
>he still believes trusted flagger thots in the current year
They have been pulling this shit for years now, how can leftists be so retarded and believe everything a woman says?

[Anonymous No.10192130]

Watch him butcher a simple mathematical concept


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvMlUepVgbA

>aleph one through five
>there are five levels of infinities

[Anonymous No.10192142]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_du75Sk-uZc#t=2m

[Anonymous No.10192151]

>>10192142
>there are more transcendental numbers than there are irrational numbers
ok now I believe he raped those women.

[Anonymous No.10192163]

>>10192151
Goes on to say there are only five infinities. I've seen him and Kaku make embarrassing mistakes when talking about other disciplines they know little about, but a phd in astrophysics not knowing about power sets?

[Anonymous No.10192169]

>>10192163
>there are 5 infinities
holy shit now i must watch the rest

[Anonymous No.10192202]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XP-DQW_1gI

This one is not technically Tyson's fault because rogan specifically asks about the observer effect. I'm guessing Rogan really wanted to ask about the uncertainty principle (because there's nothing unintuitive about the observer effect), but he doesn't do so because he already had this layman bias going in so he bypasses UP completely and asks about the observer effect directly.

Tyson either doesn't bother to bring up heisenberg (doubt he would turn down a chance to explain something much stranger and unintuitive), or he coasted through his quantum mechanics courses the same way his analysis and number theory courses. wouldn't be surprised at this point

[Anonymous No.10192214]

>>10192151
There are more transcendental numbers than irrational numbers though.

[Anonymous No.10192239]

>>10192214
you mean than algebraic numbers neil. because transcendental numbers are irrational.

[Anonymous No.10192785]

>>10187281
I really like Wolfgang Pauli, and he was fairly dysfunctional. I'm pretty sure Dawkins is paraphrasing a twat on the Nobel committee that kept denying Pauli one the first couple of times, who said something similar about his mind being too open.

There's something wrong with a lot of people who were the kids of the "greatest generation". I've heard boomers and gen xers get markedly upset about not feeling like they could criticize people of that generation on a number of occasions, like they're all living in mommy and daddy's shadow. I think that predisposes you to being quite bitter and narrow minded and uncultured. Dawkins is really still just a kid telling his parents their attempts to talk to him about philosophy are super uncool and embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.10192789]

>>10192169
I can count infinities on one hand.

[Anonymous No.10192987]

>>10191398
Leader of #metoo movement attacks rival, film at eleven!

[Anonymous No.10192989]

>>10183389
>God damn... and I really respected this guy, too.

You're supposed to use :^) to indicate sarcasm

[Anonymous No.10193024]

Spread the disinformation get the allegation

[Anonymous No.10193108]

>>10183389
i'm surprised no one #metoo'd stephen hawking. i think someone like kip thorne might be next.

[Anonymous No.10193116]

There goes my hero

[Anonymous No.10193121]

>>10193108
Stephen Hawking #metoo'd his old nurse somewhat.