/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10174336]

Why did science and technology in Japan plateau?

[Anonymous No.10174378]

>>10174336
Japan is competitive in some regards, but sometimes their quirky social structure limits individualism and achievement in business settings.
I think that's why South Korea is heavily outpacing it's neighbors. China is competitive because they steal shit.

[Anonymous No.10174380]

>>10174378
>China is competitive because they steal shit.
America steals the best and brightest from all over the world. Turnabout is fair play. Also China has GMO babbies. America doesn't. Checkmate.

[Anonymous No.10174383]

>>10174336
Because they didn't have the same level of corporate diversity that the west has.

[Anonymous No.10174390]

Why did it plateau worldwide.

the fuck kind of weeb are you to think japan is special.

[Anonymous No.10174395]

>>10174336
> salaryman culture makes workforce depressed and overworked
> rampant misogyny, failing birth rates, and sexually frustrated men
> collectivist culture that spurns innovation (ATM close on weekends so bank tellers still have jobs)
> high population density with lack of natural resources which favors economy over disruption (still using old computers and fax machines)
> favor tedious, busy work over efficacy (keeping paper records instead of digitalizing files; the Japanese stock exchange stills keeps paper records)

[Anonymous No.10174397]

>>10174395
>muh faxes
>muh databases
Daily reminder that Japan has never experienced the same kinds of massive data leaks that western countries have. Air gaps work.

[Anonymous No.10174579]

>>10174397
> flip phones are common (left smartphones to samsung)
> atm closes at night and many places only accept cash
> cd and dvd still widespread (no good streaming services)
> no heating in apartments (very cold in winter)
> wifi hard to find in public
> some people do not even have email addresses
i guess its fine if you like the nostalgic feel of low tech and living 20 years ago

[Anonymous No.10174620]

>>10174336
Scientific progress is linked with social and cultural progress and if the latter is halted by caveman conservatism Science suffers as well.
They might learn in the coming years but the gap they've built will take a while to close.

[Anonymous No.10174651]

>>10174579
>no heating
You mean 500 years ago?

[Anonymous No.10174654]

[Anonymous No.10174661]

>>10174378
>quirky social structure limits individualism
> collectivist culture that spurns innovation

[Anonymous No.10174663]

>>10174395
>salaryman culture makes workforce depressed and overworked

[Anonymous No.10174666]

>>10174663

[Anonymous No.10174671]

>>10174666

[Anonymous No.10174672]

>>10174395
>rampant misogyny

[Anonymous No.10174675]

>>10174395
>failing birth rates

[Anonymous No.10174676]

>>10174675

[Anonymous No.10174678]

[Anonymous No.10174682]

>>10174336
it seems like they decided they achieved a good society that doesn't need the disruption and inevitable alienation of relentless mindless technological growth. Can you really argue with that?

[Anonymous No.10174685]

>>10174395
>ATM close on weekends so bank tellers still have jobs
> atm closes at night and many places only accept cash
https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2208.html

[Anonymous No.10174687]

>>10174682
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/658808705/thousands-of-swedes-are-inserting-microchips-under-their-skin?t=1541532530852
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/business/sweden-cashless-society.html
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/11/sweden-cashless-society-is-no-longer-a-utopia/

[Anonymous No.10174690]

>>10174676
What happened in 1966?

[Anonymous No.10174693]

>>10174685
I wonder if City Bank is present in Japan? Cause you know, the City never sleeps

[Anonymous No.10174695]

>>10174672

[Anonymous No.10174696]

>>10174690
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+happened+in+1966+in+Japan

[Anonymous No.10174703]

>>10174685
doesnt matter if there are 1000 ATMs per person if they close at 5pm

[Anonymous No.10174708]

>>10174678
>>10174675
>>10174676
acting like japan isnt some repressed sexually defunct society where lonely men pay to cuddle with 3D women or fetishize prepubescent schoolgirls getting groped

[Anonymous No.10174711]

>>10174675
note also that Japan is only around 2% foreign-born while for most European countries and the United States is around 15%, in Canada, Australia and others even higher

[Anonymous No.10174712]

>>10174703
>they close at 5pm
they don't, see>>10174685

[Anonymous No.10174713]

>>10174712
also

https://www.nippon.com/en/guide-to-japan/gu013001/
https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2018110701227/

[Anonymous No.10174714]

>>10174579
>no good streaming services

[Anonymous No.10174716]

>>10174714

[Anonymous No.10174724]

>>10174579
>no heating in apartments (very cold in winter)
doubt it

[Anonymous No.10174727]

>>10174724
because of this:
https://www.nippon.com/en/features/h00185/

[Anonymous No.10174728]

>>10174579
>wifi hard to find in public
anon, but that's a good thing, see>>10174469

[Anonymous No.10174733]

>>10174395
>high population density

[Anonymous No.10174736]

>>10174693
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/18/business/worldbusiness/japan-shuts-unit-of-citibank-citing-violations.html

[Anonymous No.10174739]

>>10174733

[Anonymous No.10174746]

>>10174661
>KikeLand
>Protestant Europe
Kikey propaganda spotted, want to separate themselves from other sandniggs when they are ones

[Anonymous No.10174759]

the rejection of the latest technology (especially smartphones and western apps and services on these phones) is the only reason japanese culture and identity is still alive.
sooner or later they will give in because of the promised efficiency and comfort and the great nippon empire will be swallowed by the global religion of technological advancement.
also read jacques ellul, faggots.

[Anonymous No.10174846]

>>10174724
This statistic is some western NGO bullshit.

Most people in Bulgaria live in large buildings with centralized district heating built during the Socialist era that costs next to nothing per household.

[Anonymous No.10174879]

>>10174846
>some western NGO bullshit
The data comes from the European Union Statistics on Income and Living Conditions
>EU-SILC is an instrument aiming at collecting timely and comparable cross-sectional and longitudinal multidimensional microdata on income, poverty, social exclusion and living conditions. This instrument is anchored in the European Statistical System (ESS).
>The EU-SILC instrument provides two types of data:
>>Cross-sectional data pertaining to a given time or a certain time period with variables on income, poverty, social exclusion and other living conditions
>>Longitudinal data pertaining to individual-level changes over time, observed periodically over a four-year period.
>Social exclusion and housing condition information is collected mainly at household level while labour, education and health information is obtained for persons aged 16 and over. The core of the instrument, income at very detailed component level, is mainly collected at personal level.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-datasets/product?code=ilc_mdes01
https://data.europa.eu/euodp/data/dataset/a2GDtfcpMYUzJn9lYvDQ

[Anonymous No.10174895]

>>10174651
Not that anon, he's misunderstanding how it works.
When I lived in Asia there wasn't CENTRAL heating. Most people just had portable heaters in their houses and window units.

[Anonymous No.10174896]

>>10174336
Anime

[Anonymous No.10174898]

>>10174579
That looks so futuristic!

[Anonymous No.10174904]

>>10174383
thats a really creepy mask

[Anonymous No.10175305]

>>10174380
>chink spotted

[Anonymous No.10175645]

>>10174579
It's like you listened to all the Internet rumors and took them as gospel.

[Anonymous No.10175702]

>>10174663
>>10174666
Isn't the overwork perception a result of overtime and concentration of hours into short periods? To give a simplified example of what I mean, four hours a day for 5 days vs 20 hours in a single day. It's the same amount of hours, but it's distribution is what influences the impact it has on workers.

[Anonymous No.10177265]

>>10175702
>Isn't the overwork perception a result of overtime and concentration of hours into short periods?
No, it comes from the fact that it was true, see the first graph

[Anonymous No.10177275]

>>10174336
too many anime waifus and playstation games to distract would-be scientists.

[Anonymous No.10177283]

>>10177275
people in Japan spend way less time playing videogames compared to the rest of the world

[Anonymous No.10177288]

>>10174579
>>i guess its fine if you like the nostalgic feel of low tech and living 20 years ago
>not wanting less botnet

Japan sounds incredibly based, I would move there if I wasn't one of the races they're especially racist against.

[Anonymous No.10177450]

>>10177265
Didn't meant to imply otherwise, I agree with the conclusion. Simply explaining its position in that graph

[Anonymous No.10177589]

>>10174666
>deutschlaZY

[Anonymous No.10177656]

>>10174336
They don’t have enough population growth to support better economic growth. Tech and econ advancements are natural partners. See pic
They have an enormous aging population with the biggest 60+ population in the world. But less growth in young cohorts. They’ve had a net decline recently. It was a lost year, then a lost decade, then lost decades and soon enough, a lost generation.
The fun isn’t theirs to keep though. Much of the world is developing the same problem. Coming soon to a country near you

[Anonymous No.10177850]

>>10174380
Its true that china steals lots of shit. Their tech companies doesnt put much money in R&D. They rather spend money on hacking and spies. Just look for canadian company nortel.

[Anonymous No.10178183]

>>10174712
The only ATMs that close at 5 are the ones located inside the bank. There are still ATMs at every convenience store that are open 24 hours.

[Anonymous No.10178197]

>>10174380
>China has GMO babies (you couldn't even be bothered to say it properly because you don't take anything seriously hence the pedo anime reaction image)
>no evidence of their existence
>no signs the modifications have worked
>just more "reports" from biotech sponsored media
lol

[Anonymous No.10178220]

>>10178183
And it's not all banks.
Japanese bank ATMs also tend to be able to handle cash deposits. Something that is probably around in other countries but I haven't seen it.

[Anonymous No.10178547]

>>10174380
>America letting them in is stealing
>America not letting them in is racist

>Whites leaving is white flight
>Whites staying or moving in is gentrification

>Demographically indifferent laws/culture ignore "historical context"
>Demographically explicit laws/culture are oppression

>Climate change means people in the west must be childless
>Childlessness means the west must import unbounded numbers of literally whos from literally where

>>10174378
>China is competitive because they steal shit
China is competitive because their "competition" is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.10178642]

>>10174336
anime:japan::niggers:america

[Anonymous No.10179539]

>>10174336

[Anonymous No.10180184]

>>10174336
It didn't plateau. A Japanese made a huge finding not long ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuji_Nakamura
It's just not obvious to brainlets because it's not a flying car or whatever