/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10165984]

>i believe in science

[Anonymous No.10165992]

>beliefs

[Anonymous No.10165994]

>>10165984
This, but unironically.

[Anonymous No.10165998]

>>10165984
>science is fact based and beliefs are untested theories

[Anonymous No.10166176]

>>10165984
I seethe whenever some fucking liberal arts faggot says shit like this, only to repeat some platitude that was put into their head by someone else. It's a mixture of being unbelievably smug while also being totally wrong.

[Anonymous No.10166313]

>>10165984
<I believe in my knowing of science and there is absolutely no chance of a Cartesian madman inducing a hallucination right now while he rapes my asshole bloody 25/7

[Anonymous No.10166327]

>i believe climate change is a serious threat

[Anonymous No.10166331]

>>10166176
>implying it's not STEMlets doing this shit 99% of the time

[Anonymous No.10166334]

>>10165998
>evolution is fact based
>the big bang is fact based
>facts can’t be used to distort reality and spread lies

[Anonymous No.10166414]

>>10166176
>[insert opinion about some political issue], Says Science
>[insert misinterpretation of the conclusions from one unreplicated study], According to Science

[Anonymous No.10166801]

>>10165984
scientific truth=untruth
If not, it seems the claim is that humans can know truth through tools that are open to human interpretation, through concepts created by humans. This creates distortion, not realization of truth.

[Anonymous No.10167123]

>>10166334
>evolution is a theory
>big bang is a theory
>messing up both examples
>priceless

[Anonymous No.10167126]

>>10165994
Based and redpilled.

[Anonymous No.10167133]

Proof and evidence is the same thing. I took a chance but i win. I win. Atheism and science is not the same thing. Just because you say the same thing. Both do believe what's not been seen is just something we don't need. So we can ignore it and live free. But now I see what I can't see and I can predict that's my thing. What has been seen cannot be unseen. So fuck this shit theres no place for me it's just shit in it. So science would go further if we presumed god almighty is the gay from within.

[Anonymous No.10167181]

>>10166334
>wojak posting in 2019-1

[Anonymous No.10167203]

>>10165998
it is possible to believe true things

[Anonymous No.10167208]

>>10167126
only if the redpill is a oxycodone shoved up his ass

[Anonymous No.10167295]

I know about economies. The economy... gotta get more jobs. Chrumpt isn’t wanting Americans to have the jobs because of trade war. Russia told him to trade war China. Yes I know about economies my major in college was finance. I know macro and micro.

[Anonymous No.10167408]

>>10165984
I need to smack you in your moronic head. Even if you belive or know science dosen't make it completely right and truth. To make a critical and deep, concrete and abstract attachment to science you need other sources to have real proofs and evidence to it. To be able to judge if it is hypotesis or theory. You need to precieve perception of it. And to do that you need knowlege, reason and logic to make sense. Or your no true scientist. And to do that you need other sources and knowlege than pure science. So to believe science without that is mere stupid, wrong and false. Then you falsely and wrongly believe everything you see and hear without judgement, comparishment, evaluation and proof. No reason sense or logic. Makes just science nonsense, false and wrong. Especially what is science without philosophy, logic and math. Without it, it is nothing. You get no good answers and no rights. Just jibberish. Good science require good philosophy. Because it's useless without. You get no valid information. It's better to say you believe in philosophy because science is a part and undercathegory of philosophy. You probably do that but the thread is missleading. Science can be wrong so I say it's better to say I believe in proof, truth and right sort of. But that can be linked to philosophy again. So you are wrong you actually should believe in philosophy. Because without it science would be like religion. It would tell you the wrong thing and be missleading. So OP you are an idiot.

[Anonymous No.10167674]

>>10166331
It is but at least they have some claim to be scientists, even if they are brainlets.

[Anonymous No.10167679]

>i like maths because it's perfect

[Anonymous No.10167750]

>>10167679
Well maths is the highest level of abstaction we have therefore it can seem to be a relatively 'clean' science with very rigid true or false answers

[Anonymous No.10167755]

>>10167750
>maths is the highest level of abstaction we have

[Anonymous No.10167766]

>>10167755
enlighten me. What is more abstract

[Anonymous No.10167769]

>>10167766
pure logic

[Anonymous No.10167776]

>>10165984
It sounds too much like "I believe in God" but it's not not invalid to say "I believe in science". You might mean to say: "I believe in science['s intrinsic value]". Or " I believe in science['s value to society]".

[Anonymous No.10167779]

>>10167769
Isn't that part of maths? i mean it's a mix of philosophy and math but considering alot of the early mathematicians where philosophers as well. The distinction is not very important

[Anonymous No.10167785]

>>10167779
>Isn't that part of maths?

[Anonymous No.10167798]

>>10167785
What is it then?

[Anonymous No.10167803]

>>10167798
logic

[Anonymous No.10167809]

>>10167803
which is a subfield of both maths and philosophy. Try solving even a simple maths problem withou logic.
PROTIP: you can't

[Anonymous No.10167834]

>>10167809
Ok but try doing anything in the sciences without maths. Just because logic is used in maths and philosophy doesn't mean it can't be a subject in itself.

[Anonymous No.10167854]

>>10167834
I see your point anon. Any good books you would recommend on logic?

[Anonymous No.10167856]

>>10167809
you don’t have to use logic to solve math problems brainlet

[Anonymous No.10167862]

>>10167181
>look mom!i told him not to post the meme again!

mom?

[Anonymous No.10167864]

>>10167856
>you don’t have to use logic to solve math problems
Ok, you keep telling yourself that

[Anonymous No.10167898]

>>10167864
>he thinks I even think at all when i solve most problems
you guys need to get a grip on the fact you fucked up by not getting a maths degree because you enjoyed padding your grades and reading too much

[Anonymous No.10167925]

>>10167898
I'm not even in uni yet. I'm in my final year of uk college but yes I am planning on studying maths

[Anonymous No.10167962]

>>10167925
>im not in uni yet
then don’t reply to me anymore faggot

[Anonymous No.10167991]

>>10167962
>anyone who hasn't started university is a brainlet
kek you're funny anon

[Anonymous No.10168127]

>>10167962

If Logic is more abstract than Math, explain me Quaternion with Logic instead of Math

[Anonymous No.10168157]

>>10168127
I wasn't th guy making that arguemnt. Sorry anon.

[Anonymous No.10168407]

>>10167862
Awh, he's retarded

[Anonymous No.10168654]

>>10167769
>pure logic
>What is mathematical logic, a subfield of math
Seriously, what part of formal logic isn't basically incorporated or subsumed by mathematical logic?

[Anonymous No.10168734]

>>10167750
you would call that the lowest level of abstraction actually

[Anonymous No.10168828]

>>10168654
whatever shit they do in philosophy

[Anonymous No.10168848]

>>10168828
So informal logic?

[Anonymous No.10168963]

>>10168848
Kek point taken.

[Anonymous No.10169959]

>>10167181
>complains about wojak posting
>posts wojak

[Anonymous No.10169975]

>>10167962
> yfw you realise most of /sci/ are highschoolers with massive Dunning-Kruger because they just learnt how to integrate a polynomial function

[Anonymous No.10170144]

>>10165984
Well its the closest thing to the truth we have right now.

[Anonymous No.10170158]

>>10170144
1/10

[Anonymous No.10170167]

You should believe in science. That is how it works. You believe in the scientific community. You don't go about verifying every single bit of scientific knowledge. No, you believe in the system and the community and you hope that all works out right. And it does, most of the time. That's how this shit works.
Why do autistic retards like you find it so hard to understand even the most basic societal organizational principles?
We live in a Society.