/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10145217]

science can't even solve morality issues, what a joke.

[Anonymous No.10145229]

>>10145217
what issue do you want me to solve exactly?
t. scientist

[Anonymous No.10145230]

>>10145217
science is okay but mostly retarded
math is way better

[Anonymous No.10145231]

>>10145229
is abortion good or bad.
should niggers have rights or not.
is democracy the best system.
is capitalism the best economic system?

[Anonymous No.10145234]

>>10145217
>being this autistic

[Anonymous No.10145243]

>>10145217
that's called engineering

[Anonymous No.10145262]

>>10145231
two of those aren't morality questions and the other two are just weird questions to ask.

[Anonymous No.10145265]

>>10145231
science can't answer ill-defined questions, you're right there

but that's not a limitation of science; it's a limitation of your ability to articulate and clearly define concepts

[Anonymous No.10145268]

>>10145231
>is abortion good or bad
abortion is not a problem of women's freedom, or social or political ideology because the fetus that is aborted can be of any gender. Essentially, it is a moral and spiritual problem, because it directly negates not only the principles of creation and preservation of life and existence.
>should niggers have rights or not.

All humans share a DNA marker which can be traced back to the direct ancestors of African people living in the Rift Valley. But humans who have left Africa start new populations.

"Race" is a human construct to identify groupings of "us" vs. "other." There really is no such thing as race. We are all of one species, the only known related species. It's called "homo sapiens sapiens."

>is democracy the best system.
the system you should be worrying is your body. Not political or religious ideologies. If you take any belief to extremes, it creates huge conflicts and wars.

>is capitalism the best economic system?

look above

[Anonymous No.10145273]

>>10145268
worrying about*

[Anonymous No.10145307]

>>10145217
my guess is, and stop me if I'm too far off the mark here, that OP:
- is religious (christian)
- sees science as an inferior religion rather than what it actually is, a method
- mistakenly assumes that scientists themselves consider science a religion
- frequents /pol/ more than /sci/
- is a virgin

[Anonymous No.10145313]

>>10145268
An abortion is not just about removing an embryo and freeing a woman from her natural, social or family obligation to rear a child. It is more than killing a child and solving a social or economic problem because it is an attack against God's will to manifest life upon earth and ensure the orderly progression of the world.

im not religious, atheist or agnostic.
God means something else. Sheep will attack me

[Anonymous No.10145326]

>>10145313
>against God's will
>im not religious
you really gotta dial back the /pol/tard mind warps more than just a few notches here buddy

[Anonymous No.10145329]

>>10145307
science needs moderation
just like with drinking alcohol (literal poison) and religion(mind control)

sheep can't comprehend this
science is okay but people take it to retarded levels.

[Anonymous No.10145340]

>>10145326
universe will?
god is supernatural
the universe is supernatural
i can't comprehend god at all

[Anonymous No.10145345]

>>10145340
You misread. I said dial back, not dial it way the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.10145348]

>>10145307
>>10145329
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.10145361]

>>10145329
this quote is good

[Anonymous No.10145367]

>>10145231
>is abortion good or bad.
Abortion is ok as long as the fetus is undeveloped enough that it can't suffer.. Done.
It is of course damn hard to know when that point is, but that is a separate, technical problem.

[Anonymous No.10145378]

>>10145268
This.

Also, who cares what the best system is? Governments fluctuate all the time and life keeps on getting better. The Romans were regarded the best empire of the time and yet their government was unstable as fuck.

>Is capitalism the best
Any "ism" is merely an approximation of what is actually being practiced by those participating in the economy. Capitalism is just bartering but with credit systems and complex debt systems. It's just a more updated form of our standard economic practices. Every world power practices a form of capitalism, even those who say they are communist. Is it the best? No, we will update and optimise it over time as we do with all things.

Is abortion good or bad?
That's a loaded question, it depends the outcome of the specific abortion.

Should niggers have rights or not?
That is up to individual tribes or economic blocs to decide and debate, I personally think limiting himan rights reduces economic output and is bad.

[Anonymous No.10145382]

>>10145217
Maybe because morality doesn't exist. Dumb frogposter.

[Anonymous No.10145396]

>>10145382
morality exists.
Are you lonely?

[Anonymous No.10145406]

>>10145217
Yes, science is a joke, now leave /sci/ forever

[Anonymous No.10145416]

>>10145382
>morality doesn't exist
Both true and false.

In the grand universal scheme of things there is no universally true morality. Good and bad don't exist on a universal scale. When a wolf kills and eats a cute kitten, or a hurricane wipes out a city we don't call it evil. We call it nature. Even tho there is no universal good/evil because we are made of and part of this universe we are able to assign good/bad values to things. In a way, what we say is good or bad becomes true for the universe only because we are the part of the universe that is saying so.

With that said, any morality that is said to be true, can also be said to be untrue at a later time. So nothing is absolute, save for maybe 1 thing. The one thing that is universal and timeless is something I can't accurately put into words. I think the Bible took their best stab at it when they stated the golden rule. (do unto others as you would have them do unto you) I think it has more to do with, respecting the will of others. But this touches on the subject of free will which is something that could be debated for quite some time. I'll just say that I think "free will" is something that's not an absolute have it or don't. It's more like something that is shared with some people having more than others, and how much you have is constantly being traded, given, stolen, or shared with other people. Respecting this fact, and the will of others I think is what the golden rule was trying to get at.

[Anonymous No.10145420]

>>10145396
As an animal evolutionary adaptation, yes. As something truly meaningful or containing “truths” or “facts”, no.

[Anonymous No.10145421]

>>10145217
effective altruism tho

[Anonymous No.10145436]

>>10145420
are you lonely?
do u take drugs?
you must have a shit diet

>As something truly meaningful or containing “truths” or “facts”, no.

typical atheist/agnostic

[Anonymous No.10145437]

>>10145396
Morality only exist in the human consciousness, it has no bearing on distinct reality. It is also the notion that some immaterial, immutable entity exist which correctly differentiates between right and wrong actions. Of course no one actually explicitly states this, but considering the fact that people believe our actions have absolute consequences implies that they believe in some transcendent entity. Which obviously is an absurd proposition that has no bearing on reality.
>>10145416
>The one thing that is universal and timeless is something I can't accurately put into words. I think the Bible took their best stab at it when they stated the golden rule. (do unto others as you would have them do unto you)
That isn't proof that morality is real thing, it is a notion, it only exist in the human mind. That golden rule is just your most favored moral idea, morality still has no real existence.

[Anonymous No.10145447]

>>10145329
what kind of idiot made this
>hypothesis is true
You can never prove a hypothesis, only disprove it. This is science 101.

[Anonymous No.10145458]

>>10145437
>reality
do you know about maya?

[Anonymous No.10145464]

>>10145437
>it only exist in the human mind
yes, and I'm saying because it exists only in the mind, the only true morality is respecting what's in the mind of others. So long as minds exist, that 1 singular morality will also exist.

[Anonymous No.10145484]

>>10145464
It appears to be the case that you are arbitrarily giving this one morality an absolute reality despite it being just as unreal as any other morality. We can still have moral guidelines despite morality not existing, yet you wish to designate this moral as absolute because of how beneficial it is for it to be adhered to.

[Anonymous No.10145487]

>>10145217
>*interrupts your podcast*

[Anonymous No.10145489]

>>10145437
>Morality only exist in the human consciousness
So what. Does consciousness exist in a different universe or what?

[Anonymous No.10145507]

>>10145484
fair enough. It just feels like as morality is constantly being defined and redefined, but there's 1 root that they all seem to be derivations of. That root being respecting the mind/will of others. To accept that any arbitrary morality exists means you must accept that root also exists. You could say the root itself is arbitrary, but I don't think anyone can truly do that. To believe the thoughts of others is unimportant, would mean you wouldn't be debating the idea on 4chan because it'd be meaningless to you to do so. You can say it's arbitrary in an academic sense, but realistically I don't think anyone could toss it aside.

[Anonymous No.10145515]

>>10145217
>something like moral exists
i really hope this is bait

[Anonymous No.10146427]

>>10145340
the universe has no will

[Anonymous No.10146438]

>>10145307
My guess is you're a triggered fedora. I was right wasn't I?

[Anonymous No.10146440]

>>10145361
>falls in love with a pidgeon

[Anonymous No.10146444]

>>10145265
>those are ill-defined questions
Retard.

[Anonymous No.10146450]

>>10145420
>morality doesn't exist bro
I too was 16 once.

[Anonymous No.10146451]

>>10145231
good
yes
no
no

t. scientist

[Anonymous No.10146455]

>>10145268
lmao this cuck will share his daughter and wife with blacks
race isn't real, whatever ,but black people are and their IQs average at 85 in america (because of white admixture), in africa, the average is from 60 - 70, fuck you and your jew tactics about le racemixing being ok because we're all one species, no other race is as retarded as whites to delude themselves into thinking race isn't real and it's totally ok if they got replaced by their fellow humans

[Anonymous No.10146462]

>>10146455
only an american would consider "whites" as a single race

[Anonymous No.10146475]

Morality is a humanity.
Take it to social science boards like lit and his.
Here we don't even care about ethics. It gets in the way of our research

[Anonymous No.10147555]

>>10146444
>Retard.
>it's a limitation of your ability to articulate
you see the irony, don't you?

[Anonymous No.10147557]

>>10146455
>C-cuck
Cuck, short for cuckold, is the automated response given by the /pol/ user when it gets confronted with something it does not understand. This confusional state often results in frog posting and further incoherent ramblings about "muh white genocide", or "muh cultural marxism". The /pol/ user will then often retreat to a safe environment, such as /mlp/, although it is on occasion also observed to 'double down' on its muddled and often prolix confabulations. This latter phenomenon is why the /pol/ user is widely regarded as an archetypal sufferer of double down syndrome.

[Anonymous No.10148569]

>>10145217
morality is a psychosocial construct, beneficial to wieghted human needs in each respective environment

I'm a philosopher, though, not a scientist

[Anonymous No.10148572]

>>10148569
>wieghted
*weighted

[Anonymous No.10148578]

>>10145447
Popper isn't science, go kill yourself.

[El Arcón No.10148579]

I solved an important problem in morality a few years ago and wrote it up again over the summer.
On Relativity and Absolutism in Morality
http://www.vixra.org/abs/1806.0194

[Anonymous No.10148585]

>>10146451
>>>/g/tfo and take your shitty C.O.C. with you

[Anonymous No.10148595]

>>10145329
>Scientific Method
Literally the only ones who invoke this are elementary school teachers, pseudo-scientists trying to dress their crap up as legitimate, and fedoras.