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10144617 No.10144617 [Reply] [Original]

Is this true? If the paranormal disproved science, why are you here?

>> No.10144618

>>10144617
>disproved

Spotted to popsci faggot.

>> No.10144620

>>10144617

doesn't make sense? science is stuff that hasn't been explained by the paranormal, so even if the paranormal explains it, its still the same stuff, but with an old answer, doesn't make it any less of an experience.

>> No.10144623

Most of the paranormal is loose hypothesis, and about 1/4 of them are right. Alot of road left to travel though.

>> No.10144624

>>10144618
why do people say this? If a hypothesis has no positive evidence and does not fit with more accurate models it is effectively disproven.

>> No.10144626

>>10144624
You don't understand how logic works.

>> No.10144627

>>10144626
No, i do actually, my point is that for the sake of common knowledge and the public's interest in a subject if there is no evidence, and if the available evidence seems to mechanically preclude the other hypothesis and also allow us to make more accurate predictions, the other should be considered disproven. I am perfectly aware that according to deductive formal logic it is absolutely not disproven, that's not the fucking point sperg.

>> No.10144631

>>10144624
>1000 years ago
>hypothesis: "Earth revolves around the Sun!"
>monk scientists: "You have no positive evidence, it looks as if the Sun revolves around the Earth, we don't have any evidence of Earth moving, and it doesn't fit with the most accurate model we have. Our most accurate model predicts the movement of the Sun and the heavenly bodies just fine. Your theory is effectively disproven."
>not until many centuries later did we have positive evidence for the Earth moving
>not until even more many centuries later did we have an accurate model of how the Earth revolved around the Sun
>and yet, the hypothesis without evidence and without an accurate model was right

>> No.10144633

>>10144627
>for the sake of the public, we should be illogical

>> No.10144802

>>10144617
Am I stupid?
When did this happen?

>> No.10144819

>>10144624
Because science isn't about truth.

>> No.10144866

>>10144627
>for the sake of common knowledge and the public's interest in a subject
So we shouldn't do things if it confusing popsci readers like you?
>and if the available evidence seems to mechanically preclude the other hypothesis and also allow us to make more accurate predictions
What da fukku am i readingu?

>> No.10146275

>>10144617
Well. Some paranormal seems to be proven right or half way right one day. It dosen't mean we should shut down science for good. The thing that happens is that the paranormal stuff becomes science because now there is evidence for it. And science is about evidence. To have perfectly clear evidence you cannot argue against or away. So tell me when you found Santa Claus over there then Im gonna make a note on all evidence that it seem to be a bad joke and all scientists in history should go back to kindergarden to have a huge orgie and shit in a cup. Good luck.

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10146299

>>10146275
>And science is about evidence
No, only idiots on the internet say that.
>To have perfectly clear evidence you cannot argue against or away
Evidence like that literally does not exist outside of mathematics.
>So tell me when you found Santa Claus over there
The fuck are you talking about? Anyone can go and see him anytime they want.

>> No.10146321

>>10146299
And your argument is? You mean nothing it is just empty jibberish you come up with. Looks like you live in a paranormal existence to. Where nothing exists and everything exists anyway. Every fucking fable. Urban stories are not real they come from peoples imagination. And for you they are not good for you because you actually believe in it. I suggest you go see a doctor. Take ur fucking meds moron.

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10146342

>>10146321
>And your argument is?
There's no such thing as proving things beyond a shadow of a doubt outside of axiomatic mathematics. You can always come up with a counter argument otherwise. See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvHcZciihJw
>You mean nothing it is just empty jibberish you come up with. Looks like you live in a paranormal existence to.
You're just name calling here.
>Where nothing exists and everything exists anyway
False dichotomy much? I'm just saying arguments exist on both sides of every issue. You might not like them or be convinced by them, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Everything always comes down to making personal judgement calls of what you go with.
>Every fucking fable. Urban stories are not real they come from peoples imagination.
Why are you bring up stories? And why are you unilaterally dismissing them all?
>And for you they are not good for you because you actually believe in it
I don't understand why you are projecting that.
>I suggest you go see a doctor. Take ur fucking meds moron.
For what? You've been rambling incoherently for the past few sentences. Stop taking whatever drugs you're on.

>> No.10146370

>>10146342
ffs man. You don't make any sense man. That shit gonna turn you insane one day. Can't talk to you even. Go get some fucking help. Maggot

>> No.10146374

>>10146370
0/10

>> No.10148011

>>10144617
Even if there's water behind this idea, making this conclusion is like saying Newtonian physics is completely worthless and impractical since Einstein's work. It's obviously not the case.

>> No.10148018

>>10148011
>is like saying Newtonian physics is completely worthless and impractical since Einstein's work. It's obviously not the case.

Blame Popper for spreading exactly that idea.