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A polymath is one who is known for a wide range of knowlege and can draw a wide range of abstract conclusions and wariety based on ones imagination and conclusions. He is one with a huge capacity of various subjects. Polymath is often used to describe our histories greatest thinkers from Da Vinci to Galileo Galilei and Nikola Tesla. Which are all of them great geniuses. They were all selfmade polymaths. They had a great appetite for knowlege and contributed to many different fields of inventions. They contributed to science far greater than anyone else. With groundbreaking new ideas and visions nobody else could grasp or even think of. They were the real pioneers of their time.

Today we never even hear of polymaths. They only belong to history. So where are they. There should be far more now than then based on stayistics in population increase. There are most likely many more now than then. But it can evidently look like that they are hiding and showing low profile. But do we know someone bold enough like e.g Tesla today? No we actually don't. Great things died with him and science has never gone any further than his visions and inventions. That's abit sad. Because think what a guy like Tesla could do today. With all the knowlege and info we have now easily accessable. We would expect a quantun leap greater than ever before. He would have been pretty badass. So what I wanted to say is where are the polymaths today? Why do they hide. Or did they just die with Tesla or Neuman?

>> No.10143085

I'm still gathering

>> No.10143093

>>10143073
the bar was lower back in the day
all those people you praise are actually brainlets

>> No.10143137

The polymath,as a story captures the passion of science and creativity while hailing the power of the individualist. The polymath as a real scientist or industrialist is a mixture of disappointment and brilliance. Da Vinci could never realize his mechanical designs due to a lack of funding and manpower, Galileo was put to death, Nikola Tesla went from failed business to failed business and spent his last days penniless and hypochondriacal. Their appetite for knowledge was too broad; they were never able to verify their findings with precision because their understanding was do shallow to follow up. They could not realize their designs and plans as they never really could work reliably, nor could be demonstrated that it could work in principle. As such they never revolutionized scientific understanding since their findings were either never communicated or were too archaic and inscrutable until later historians were able to figure them out (usually with the hindsight of more advanced scientific knowledge). As such I disagree with your other statement that the polymaths have vanished, but there are plenty of crackpots with little credibility but might be proven right given circumstances in the future.

As an aside, one may argue that some silicon valley industrialists like Paul Allen, Elon Musk are in fact similar to what we call polymaths with their diverse interests and ventures I tend to see these comparisons as little more than marketing; they wish to paint themselves as prodigious individuals as it improves the value of their ventures and products.

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>>10143093
Good answer. But why haven't we got further than Tesla when it comes to magnetism, energy and electricity? And also the math he was doing was amazing. His lab burned down so he lost all his work and papers and after that he were just keeping everything in his head. So that's lost in history. And he still managed to send millions of volts 3 miles through the air in Colorado Springs. And we still do not know what the fucks he dealt with. And the flying machine he drawed. He was waiting for funds and better tech. It even contained flat screen monitors. And that's 100 years ago. So don't tell me the bar was low. He fucking set the bar and kept the glory all until today. There is a team of japaneese scientists that sent electricity 500 meters through air this year. But it was weak and far more uncontrollable than Teslas tower. But yeah the bar is higher today but we havent had a new revolution since the computer have we? You need people like Tesla to break the barrier.

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>>10143137
Im not gonna argue with what you say. But I don't completely agree but you argue good and are mostly right to in your own way.

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>>10143152
>But why haven't we got further than Tesla when it comes to magnetism, energy and electricity?
begone, nigger

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10144560

Fuck. Can someone tell me what happend to 4chan. Theres fucking no activity here at all. I post one of my most important threads and zero activity. Isn't this fucking interesting?

>> No.10144652

>>10144560
I just lurk here because I'm a brainlet

>> No.10144681

>>10144652
Well, nothing bad about that right? We all have some flaws man. It's just if you can live with it and still be good enough. But don't worry someone else gonna take ur job anyway. Nohardfeels

>> No.10144691

>>10143073
>Today we never even hear of polymaths. They only belong to history. So where are they. There should be far more now than then based on stayistics in population increase.
They are everywhere. With popularity of education, self learning, even YouTube videos, people who are at the level of tesla or da vinci are quite common. The thing is that all low hanging fruits have been taken already. If you want to do discoveries today, you need expensive hardware and large team of people, not just be smart.

>> No.10144706

>>10144560
No it wasn't interesting, everything about his wireless electricity was shit.

Tesla lost his fucking mind as he got older, he hadn't made a single invention in decades and to top it all off he claimed he was talking to aliens from Mars and needed money to build a big enough radio transmitter to talk back to them.

Initial success, money and New York elite life turned him into a retard flat earther.

>> No.10144716

>>10144560
No, not really.

>> No.10144717

in Parapsychology

the physical universe is a red herring

the nature of existence is found within the mind

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>>10144691
It might be that yes. Today we know alot more than we did back in the days and the info is all around us. So people today knows alot more than we used to. So there might just be that there is a little polymath in all of us if we attended. But that dosen't mean you are smart and know how to draw the line to say it in a easy way. So being smart and polymath then we start to talk groundbreaking inventions and success. One that can easily outsmart a whole group of experts because they just understand things better than average and even good. You see you cannot be a real polymath if ur not smart. You can be well informed, but not polymath. That takes some extra dedication and you must be able to think way outside the box to be a real polymath. So don't tell me shit kids on youtube are like Da Vinci or Tesla that's bullshit.

>> No.10144743

>>10144706
No it wasn't shit. Where did you hear that fucking Pinnocio. You americunts are wrong learned and missinformed as shit. And you believe ur own crap to. Learn to fucking context.

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>>10144717

>> No.10144903

>>10144737
>One that can easily outsmart a whole group of experts because they just understand things better than average and even good.
That's not how it works nowadays. For example, consider gravitational waves. No matter how smart you are, you can outsmart scientists working on it. Because it's not about being smartest, it's about doing large scale project that requires cooperation of multiple teams of experts because of nature of this experiment. That's how modern science works, it's not about being smart, it's about doing experiments that many people understand, but no one has resources to execute.

>So don't tell me shit kids on youtube are like Da Vinci or Tesla that's bullshit
Strawman fallacy.

>> No.10144907

>>10144745
>non-physical phenomena
Virtual particles?

>> No.10144921

>>10144560
you're a fucking retard who couldn't hack high school math so you decided it's all a jewish conspiracy is what's up

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>>10144921
No not at all. But I like ur mood swings can we be friends with benefits?

>> No.10144969

Pppppppppfffppppp

>> No.10144985

>>10143085
This. Resources need to be aquired, and even with money, half the stuff you need to Really start toying with the Field is restricted by management.

>> No.10144990

>>10144952
Engineers make the biggest crackpots.

>> No.10144992

>>10143263
>npn transistor
>post both npn and pnp models

>> No.10144997

>>10144706
If you’re aware of Project Rainbow, you’d understand more about what Tesla and the US gov’t was actually doing
The whole reason the Philadelpha experiment went south was because he left the project and von neaumann to deal without him, while removing some key components before leaving lol

>> No.10145001

>>10144907
Other planes.

>> No.10145010

>>10143073

The hat system is still in effect.

Black projects to protect the white magic users.

Irony.

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A true polymath is also a genius or super genius. You need to have your shit together to make sense of a huge amount of knowlege. And stretch it further and further. A true polymath is like a team on hes own. It could be more efficient to actually work solely on your own if you are smart enough and polymath. Because others would drag you down mess things up and slow you down. I mean come on. Don't you guys see that. Many of you brainlets are pure stupid and makes nonsense in this thread. Fucking bullshit.

>> No.10145058

>>10145018
If you wish to go fast, go alone.
To go far, however, go together.

To go far AND fast, become a dictator.
:3

>> No.10145061

>>10144560
Are you high on meth?

>> No.10145073

>>10145061
This kid is high on life man.

Seriously the worst fucking thread I've seen in a while.

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>>10145061
In fact yes. Haven't slept for two days. Good observation skills on you. You copper?

>> No.10145099

>>10145086
you really should sleep before your heart or psyche fails
still haven't recovered from my 36 hour binge 5 days ago

>> No.10145113

cringe thread.

>> No.10145120

>>10145099
I know i know. You should drink alot and have some food. It helps.

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>>10143152
>And we still do not know what the fucks he dealt with.
The "dielectric field". HE said so him self many times.
>>10144560
No one here believes in non physical fields. You're talking to a bunch of mathematicians that are driven by fallacy of reification. They honestly believe that the universe runs off of math, it's an astonishing yet sad thing to watch, the will drivel nonsense that holds no place in reality. Like this moron:

>>10144903
>For example, consider gravitational waves

Lol, "gravitational wave". We don't know what causes gravity and a "wave" is what something else does, yet this person has reified "gravitational waves" based on more or less an assumption.

>Because it's not about being smartest, it's about doing large scale project that requires cooperation of multiple teams of experts because of nature of this experiment.

...being a groupthink sheep and doing what everyone else is doing. No score will be kept on this soccer game.

>>10144907
"we made up more particles to correct our math"

>>10143263
>"lol we made it turn on and off faster! This is progress!"

>>10143093
There is no one here smarter than Marconi, Steinmetz, Oliver Heaviside, Nikola Tesla, Faraday and Maxwell. Nobody.

>> No.10145232

>>10145223
Thanks for contributing. Finally someone here that knows his shit

>> No.10145237

>>10143073
a sapiosexual girl from middle east fell in love with me because she is sapiosexual, she said she had sexual fantasies about young tesla xD btw we meet irl but im afraid she is too stupid to be my waifu

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>>10143073
I have found them OP

>> No.10145463

>>10143073
That's because stuff is way harder. In a normal undergrad degree, you can cover like 300 years of physics history from Newton to Einstein. Then in a postgrad you get the next 50 in one specific field. And then you spend the rest of your career ticking forward in realtime on a single research agenda.

>> No.10145578

>>10145018
This thread is shit because half of the replies are you and your broken English attacking anyone who doesn't agree with you.

>> No.10145601
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> Tesla claimed he had invented a motor that would run on cosmic rays.

> Tesla told reporters that, after thirty-five years of work, he was on the verge of producing proof of a new form of energy. He claimed it was a theory of energy that was "violently opposed" to Einsteinian physics, and could be tapped with an apparatus that would be cheap to run and last 500 years.

> Said he was working on a way to transmit individualized private radio wavelengths, working on breakthroughs in metallurgy, and developing a way to photograph the retina to record thought.

> he told reporters that a version of his oscillator had caused an earthquake in in downtown New York City in 1898. He said it could destroy the Empire State Building with 5 lbs of air pressure.

> a superweapon he claimed would end all war. He would call it "teleforce", but was usually referred to as his death ray.

> On questions concerning the death ray, Tesla stated, "But it is not an experiment ... I have built, demonstrated and used it.

>> No.10145612

>>10145601
tesla fucked a pigeon?

>> No.10145621

>>10145601
Was teleforce a particle beam weapon? a microwave weapon?

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>>10145601
Thanks anon. I wonder what secrets Tesla could have had which he didn't share to the public. He kinda shared his whole life to New York times. And in autobiography. I must say he had a rich life. And some of an daretaker. Think of doing all that on your own. 700 patents is no joke. To bad he didn't make it to make all of his dreams and visions. E.g wireless transmitted electricity and unlimited quantities of energy. But still what an amazing achevement. And i would want to know his contributions in math too. And physics. Which there is plenty of in just electronics alone. Yet he is a champion and master of electricity. That's why we call him the man who lit the world.

>> No.10145641

every college graduate would be a polymath before

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>>10145621
>Was teleforce a particle beam weapon?

No. Particles don't exist. Teleforce uses longitudinal perturbations or "scalar waves. They aren't "waves" in the slightest which is what he meant by "non Hertzian waves" . They are measured in compressions/ rarefactions, they have no "speed" whatsoever and are instantaneous. There is no emission only transmission.

>> No.10145732

>>10145641
That's true. Almost. A polymath has his own great wisdom for a selfmade enlightment and insight. A vision that inspire to greater and completely new discoveries and thinking. I take me for example. I reached nirvana without help and following dharma at a very young age. I was so high in wisdom and intellegence that I just slipped into nirvana. I mean it was though and took a long time to do so. But I didn't follow dharma at all. I was not near to be a monk. But I was righteous. And I just made a discovery in the universe in cosmology one night. And it was a great and simple and beautiful discovery that I told to one friend on a walk back home from town when we were drinking to the golden medal. The day after I reached an enlightment. It felt very good but it was not nirvana it was something other yet very great. But it was the big step out of a very dark time. And a few months later I reached nirvana. Kinda easy battle after all. And it takes a long time to accomplish. It was heavy and even brutal from time to time. But it changed the whole me as a person. And im feeling very good and accomplished now. So now im gonna aim big and high and be a great scientist and guru. Im gonna become a star.

>> No.10145757

>>10143073
I'm a polymath, and have experienced much of what these posts say. This >>10143137
is accurate. So is >>10144691 . This has much value also >>10145463 and I can add to it.
A main problem arises from the ever increasing shear amount of information out there, which has a twofold effect. 1, it generates ever deeper fields, where more and more specialists are needed just to understand a certain topic, and 2 the number of fields grow so the polymath has to take a broader and broader scope. So while most people end up being specialists in one thing, the polymath is a specialist in being a generalist. However, the result is that becomes harder and harder for a single human to cover the ever growing breadth of knowledge, and then even when they can make the abstract connections that might drive a field forward, they lack the specific knowledge to implement it or work out the details. This again was kinda represented in this post >>10143137

>> No.10146050

>>10145707
So from your view it would be analogous to electromagnetic force? Or are you thinking more abstractly, such as Pilot Wave Theory territory?

>> No.10146357

>>10143073
>Polymath is often used to describe our histories greatest thinkers

Back then there wasn't so much information out there

>Today we never even hear of polymaths.

Because now there is more information out there

Next

>> No.10146472

>>10146357
Idiot. The info is out there yes. It always were. But you have to learn it to. A polymath knows many various fields with great passion and skills. And uses his abilities to create a whole abstract picture of everything he knows to draw the line and cut the edges of his knowlege to create new ideas, visions, evidence, conclusions toward greater understanding. So a polymath isn't just one that sit on a great amount of knowlege and don't know what to do with it. Like retarded college students.