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So I'm looking to give my child a good head start in life by trying to teach them as much as possible before 10. This is going to come from a variety of different fields so I'm trying to devise an action plan that we can follow. I come from a musician background (currently in computer science) so I have those two basically down, but I'm unsure how to approach teaching mathematics, especially conceptually.

Now I did some mathematics in uni, up to multi-variable cal, number theory and discrete math, but how would you teach these two a child, especially from the ages of 0-10?

Any inputs, links or anecdotes would be greatly appreciated.

>> No.10135323

You do understand that doing this will make your child autistic and pretty much ruin his/hers social life.

>> No.10135327

>>10135312
Why don't you teach your child social skills and how to get laid. He'd thank you more for that.

>> No.10135334

>>10135323
>>10135327


Well actually I'm going to try and teach him these too.

Socially he'll need to somewhat hide his powerlevel, so I'm hoping to teach him humbleness and humility in the process, but I'll also teach him these things as mentioned.

I had a very social upbringing myself, so I'm hoping this won't be too much of an issue, or at least these things seem to happen more naturally and depend upon the environment or particular social situation he's facing.

I hope to teach him self-confidence and social skills possibly through martial arts, but I also guess it's up to the child to socialise as well.

Social skills and high intellectual ability aren't always correlated you guys know that right?

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>>10135312
I would suggest instead manipulating your child to love sports and athletics. Make a reward based system when it comes to teaching your child skills. Start out with feeding them a small treat (sugar) every time they do something you approve of. If they fail at anything withdraw the substance from them. As they grow you can switch this with money and gifts. The trick to not make your child a spoiled brat is giving them a reward AFTER they do something correctly. Never give your child gifts for no reason (or if they act out). As they age you can even implement a system where they have to work to get a certain prize at the end of each week to each month and so on. For example, you can teach your child a certain subject and have them create their own problems and answers. For each problem that is correct you give them a small amount of money. If they have all problems correct, reward them a far larger amount. I would suggest rewarding your child even more if they create interesting problems or include ideas from previous topics.

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Your thread attracts brainlets OP. Get your kid reading as soon as you can, get them the chalkboard with the alphabet on it, sit with them and read Dr. Seuss every night starting as soon as they're old enough to not grab the pages. My parents started me reading at two, it was the biggest boost I've ever been given.

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>>10135335
Sounds like a behaviourist approach to learning. Is this a reconfigured and accepted method of producing learning in infants? I like the idea of this, but I'm afraid of possible unintended consequences.

With a brief amount of reading, it sounds like children are generally very interested and curious by nature, can you nurture this with an applied positive stimulus for worth-while behaviour?

Thank you though this seems useful, not too keen on the sugar stimulus, but I like the reward system with money as they grow older.

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>> No.10135461

>>10135312
Do not specifically teach them any contents. Just keep up their motivation and make them enjoy mathematical problems.

80% of variance in intelligence will be genetic when they hit puberty, but interest and motivation are much more malleable by environmental influences.

>> No.10135462

You can always use that homeschool meme chart, some anon probably has it saved

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>> No.10135464

>>10135343
it's a meme. Don't do this to your child

>> No.10135470

>>10135343
You not only shouldn't do this because it'll create an unhealthy emotional dependence towards you, a constant pressure to outdo himself to please you, and an incapacity to leave your shadow, but also because it's disgusting.

>> No.10135485

How most people teach math is going from the numbers and symbols and then showing the physical representation (ie graphing the function). I would suggest trying to reverse that way of teaching. Start from the visual side of things since it's much more intuitive and try to derive general purpose equations that can be applied to other visual elements they may come across. 3Blue1Brown on YouTube does a wonderful job with this.

Let's say you have an x^2 and an x^3 graph. First, show the child what that looks like before even showing them the equations "x^2" and "x^3". The idea is to get them to look around their world and wonder what other equations make up what they observe. After that, you need to take them through the process of discovery. Show them how to find the slope of that curve at any given point (or whatever it is you're teaching at the time) always using that visual element as the baseline rather than the aid. Make them feel like if they had sat around and thought about this for long enough they might have come up with these same equations themselves.

While just giving them the final equations is in theory faster, for someone just beginning this mathematical journey when you teach math from that point of view it becomes all about memorization rather than discovery.

>> No.10135493

Just don't ever tell your kid he's smart. Even if he's a genius, don't praise him for being smart. Putting that deep in his psyche will make it hard to reverse later, it fucked me up, and it takes a long time to deconstruct myself to lose bad traits and habits caused by my upbringing

>> No.10135542

>>10135323
>being well educated makes you autistic
Jesus christ the absolute state of some people

>> No.10135580

I’m trying to do the same with my newly born niece. Obviously in the first year I’m not doing anything, but as she developes, barring the possibility she’s a prodigy, is it unrealistic to have the goal in mind of her being able to do single variable calc by the time she’s in high school?

I think calculus is taught too late as it is, and that the main ideas are relatively simple and can be demonstrated geometrically. Maybe not the convential class, and not following something like Spivak, but I don’t see why calculus can’t be retrofitted for a younger learner. It’s alot more natural than algebra.

I just know if I didn’t fall into the “math is hard” meme in high school, everything about college and grad school would have been easier. And her parents are certainly not going to be teaching her any sort of higher level of thinking, nor do they have careers which would allow them to avoid student loans, so scholarships are important.

>> No.10135596

>>10135470
>it'll create an unhealthy emotional dependence towards you
You mean like a child towards their parent?
>a constant pressure to outdo himself to please you
This isn't bad at all
>an incapacity to leave your shadow
Again, not bad at all

>> No.10135689

>be baby me
>mom is convinced I'm a genius because I learnt to read at 4
>enrolled me in extracurricular courses since I was a child
>got into uni at 16 but by then I was so sick of school I dropped out and got a job as a construction worker
>decided to go back and finish my degree at 21
>I wish I hadn't wasted those 4 years of my life
Don't push your kid too much, OP.

>> No.10135716

>>10135323
Being born ruins your life. From there, it's all downhill.

>> No.10135858

>>10135716
t. low energy sad boi

>> No.10135870

my mom taught me math at young age so one day in 4th grade my math teacher said "you can't take 2 - 4"
but i was like "yes you can those are negative numbers"

>> No.10135872

>>10135716
kys then

>> No.10135969

>>10135542
you can't be educated without autism

>> No.10136049

>>10135312

I don't see any reason why symbolic logic isn't the best, even for pre-verbal children, it sets them up to think properly for the rest of their lives.

REGARDLESS of their "aptitude" or ability, this should be foundational, and its removal from curriculum is the reason modern people are so confused and easily persuaded by bullshit

>> No.10136201

>>10135312
If you do that he will end up hating mathematics if it's not his thing. Being good at mathematics is a gift, not something you can teach him.

>> No.10136354

>>10135312
>having kids
you are a fucking murderer.

>> No.10136361

>>10135335
>As they grow you can switch this with money and gifts.
>not cocaine
pleb

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