/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10123402]

>Do cardio exercise
>IQ goes from 116 to 140
>24 point IQ leap just from living well

Why do people act like IQ is even real?
Most people have enough Neurons in their head to be mathematicians.

I mean, sure, some racial groups think slower than others, but if a black man exercises and a white man doesn't, the black man might as well be a white guy.

[Anonymous No.10123407]

>>10123402
Oh, and research related

http://www.pnas.org/content/106/49/20906

[Anonymous No.10123423]

>>10123402
>black olympic athletes are smarter than white chemists and fat CS graduate students

[Anonymous No.10123427]

im too scared to do cardio i can only do it at 4 am but now im going to be living with people and they will think im weird if i go running at 4 am
what do

[Anonymous No.10123429]

>>10123407
>2009
>durr hurr people who did cardio boosted their iq
people with higher iq eat better and are more likely to do cardio brainlet

[Anonymous No.10123431]

>>10123423
They're probably not smarter than them, but they likely are as smart as they are. I mean, you can't look at this man's eyes and not say he's operating at 120+ IQ

That's at least a Chemist or a fat CS graduate

Granted, that's his absolute best, but it's still impressive

[Anonymous No.10123437]

>>10123402
>If a black man exercises and a white man doesn't, the black man might as well be a white guy
So... Africa = United States?

[Anonymous No.10123439]

>>10123429
Not necessarily.

Hitler never exercised.
Dylann Roof never exercised (tested 125 IQ)
John Von Neumann and Einstein only went on walks
Donald Trump is an obese fuck

And anecdotally, I knew people that were in gifted classes in elementary that went on to be absolute sluggards in high-school. Life is fucked up, and 18 is too young to really know it. Only the Unabomber realized this at 17 with 167 IQ.

Most people with high intelligence are handled by evolutionary hard wiring.

Oppenheimer was regarded as a brainlet, and he looked like he exercised all day. Everyone said he didn't have natural talent.

Bobby Fischer exercised to beat other people down. The intelligence is just a consequence of the cardio.

[Anonymous No.10123441]

We already knew excercise and nutrition affected IQ though. That's why nutritional deficiency in iodine, Omega fatty acids and iron are all tied to the lowering (and raising) of IQ. While lack of excercise is tied to the lowering (and raising) of cognitive maintenance and performance.

Only naturefags want to ignore this because unlike the education part of the nurture debate there is no wiggle room to pretend nutrition/excercise isn't important.

[Anonymous No.10123445]

>>10123402
IQ as measured with an online test?
>t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.10123447]

>>10123437
No.
Half of the black populace doesn't exercise because their daily life wears them out. They get exhausted from daily labors, so they stop running around and fall into poor health despite their muscles. The other half doesn't eat or drink enough.

Extremely healthy black man from Africa = 90-95 IQ

Extremely healthy white man from America = 110-115 IQ

[Anonymous No.10123450]

>>10123423
Strawman, the post

[Anonymous No.10123458]

>>10123402
>exercise and cardio
>brainlet tries to explain cause of high IQ

[Anonymous No.10123470]

>>10123458
24 year old Stephen Hawking was smarter than wheelchair Stephen Hawking.

>After being diagnosed with motor neurone disease, Hawking fell into a depression – though his doctors advised that he continue with his studies, he felt there was little point

And he was on a rowing crew, so back then he was getting exercise and nutrition.

>He developed into a popular, lively and witty college member, interested in classical music and science fiction.[58] Part of the transformation resulted from his decision to join the college boat club, the University College Boat Club, where he coxed a rowing crew

I believe he was a natural 140 IQ that could get jacked to 160 IQ. Once he lost his muscles, he lost most of his brain. This is why he never discovered anything past his youth.

Hawking was just a popular figure, but he could've been much more than that. He was even BTFO by young students

[Anonymous No.10123480]

>>10123402
Wait you can grind for iq points by doing cardio woooow

[Anonymous No.10123500]

>>10123402
>fix car
>mpg improves a lot
Why do people act like mpg is even real?

[Anonymous No.10123512]

>>10123500
But it's something that doesn't mean much.
Someone with 100 IQ can push themselves into tip-top shape and land 124 IQ

That's smart enough to handle almost everything in this world.

[Anonymous No.10123809]

>>10123512
Only if that person were considerably unfit. If they were incredibly fit yet had an iq of 100, I doubt anymore physical exercise would raise their iq.

[Anonymous No.10123842]

>>10123809
But roughly 50% of people in industrial societies are considerably unfit. They constitute those scoring at the 50th percentile or lower in intelligence tests.

It's so bad that I'd say if you put all of the unfit whites into one IQ bell-curve, the median IQ would be 90-92

If you did the same to fit whites, the average IQ would be 110-115

This is why you get white people that are functioning with 80 IQ. If you pay attention, most of them are obese.

[Anonymous No.10123859]

>>10123439
>John Von Neumann and Einstein only went on walks
I think you need to check definition of cardio

[Anonymous No.10123902]

>>10123402

>Pearson coefficient of exercise and global intelligence is 0.163
>0.163
>Muh anecdote of 24 IQ point leap

Race realism btfo I guess.

[Anonymous No.10123907]

>>10123902

Also even if cardio had more than a small relation to intelligence, I wouldn't find this to be surprising.

It could just be that having a healthier body resulted in more intelligence. It doesn't imply that intelligence or intelligence quotients aren't valid, it could just be measuring a real change in intelligence.

Anyway, this is just a side thought, your test had an r^2 value of 0.15 and that's all I wanted to comment on. Also strength had little relation, so I think it has something to do with more oxygen-rich blood pumping through the brain, but this is just conjecture.

[Anonymous No.10123920]

>>10123842
I don't understand how the bell curve has managed to avoid turning into a tower with how modern environments make it so easy to polarize intelligence. Is it just because humans are so inbred?

[Anonymous No.10123936]

being in good shape makes your head clearer and makes it run smoother
intelligence is basically just the constant comparison and evaluation of interrelated concepts, of course you become smarter if this is done more quickly and precisely

if you try to explain something to a poor student, they often lose your train of thought somewhere mid way, if you explain it to a bright student he'll quickly grasp the ideas, cross-reference them, try them out against some already existing knowledge and remember them

take that bright student and put him in terrible physical condition by like, drugging him or giving him the beating of his life and his brain won't run as well and he won't grasp it

[Anonymous No.10123941]

>>10123402
What kind of cardio exercise do anime posters do?
Anal sex?

[Anonymous No.10123942]

>>10123447
I'm an unhealthy pajeet operating at 115.
What does that mean for me.

[Anonymous No.10123944]

>>10123942
Fortune cookie says:
You will be successfully trolled on youtube for your shitty CS:GO trade scams.

[Anonymous No.10123945]

>>10123480
Optimized.

[Anonymous No.10123950]

>>10123944
But I don't scam.

[Anonymous No.10123960]

>>10123470
>he coxed a rowing crew
Please translate.

[Anonymous No.10124881]

>>10123960
Huh, I suppose that's a non-physical rowing job.

Still, it's obvious he would've rowed had he had the capacity to do so.

[Anonymous No.10124943]

>>10123950
Yes you do.

[Anonymous No.10126414]

>>10123429
wrong

[Anonymous No.10126781]

>>10123427
It wouldnt be weird for them, it would be more like a disciplined chadish thing to do. Do it anon

[Anonymous No.10126796]

IQ is only accurate as a representation of large groups

[Anonymous No.10127190]

>>10123902
>Race realism
>People don't realise we have all been making massive gains in IQ over the years

[Anonymous No.10127345]

>>10127190
I think 10 points from 130 is harder than 10 points from 80 relatively(more work), but it may seem easier due to the fact person with 130 can get logic about getting better logic.

[Anonymous No.10127371]

>>10123402
Is that why I'm extremely productive the rest of the day after a good cardio workout?

[Anonymous No.10127378]

>>10127190
All that this means is that nutrition and distribution of information are improving, not IQ.

People are finally striking their hunter-gatherer genetic IQ after decades of malnutrition.

[Sage No.10127390]

>>10127190
>100 IQ is an average.
How do you even compare them?

[Anonymous No.10127399]

>>10127378
>>10127190
Also, children in 1910 weren't allowed to play outside all day and run around.

A lot of them got burned and were forced to slave labor from an early age. As time spent working goes down, IQ goes up.

Industrial countries are merely becoming more and more comfortable.

[Anonymous No.10127428]

>>10127399
>As time spent working goes down, IQ goes up.
How do I prove this correlation to my parents? Are there studies?

[Anonymous No.10127429]

>>10127378
>>10127399
>>10127190
Asia is also a very fucked-up place.
Mass starvation, mass genocide, extreme working conditions, malnutrition from lack of health inspection, pollution, poisonous food, etc.

It's not a good place for a human being to exist.

[Anonymous No.10127433]

>>10127390
100 gets regularly reset since it's goimg up.

[Anonymous No.10127436]

>>10127378
Africa has just started improving, they could end up a lot higher.

[Anonymous No.10127437]

>>10127428
It's not the work itself.
It's what too much work makes people do.

They sit down when they're not working.
Their brain slows down due to the stress and lack of vascular exertion. The food was unhealthy on top of this, and there were no memes flying around like "Don't eat butter everyday".

Better nutrition, better lifestyle, better general health. This is all the Flynn effect is. I think, if anything, industrial societies select against intelligence.

[Anonymous No.10127448]

>>10127436
West Africans are 81 IQ.
African Americans are proof of this.

[Anonymous No.10127449]

>>10127428
get a job

[Anonymous No.10127473]

>>10127449
no

[Anonymous No.10127489]

>>10127429
>generalizing things
There are a lot of people in Asia who live better than you, brainlet.

Asia is a very big place.

[Anonymous No.10127495]

>>10127489
Some of them do, but a lot of them don't.
Roughly half of the populace has to live like hell, and even the ones that have nice lives probably don't exercise much.

[Anonymous No.10127498]

>>10127495
>nice argument
>ends in a generalization
woooooooooooooooooow

[Anonymous No.10127528]

>>10123431

The greatest black boxer of all time had his IQ officially tested and it was like a 70.

[Anonymous No.10127535]

>>10127528
Muhammad Ali?

[Anonymous No.10127540]

>>10127535
Probably mike tyson, kek

[Anonymous No.10127548]

>>10127535

Yeah, it was Ali. Of course, maybe tests (or the people who gave them) actually were really biased back then. Still, it's unlikely that he was anything more than average intelligence.

IQ may be the best predictor of success we have but it's still not an amazing one. And you can't really increase it all that much with exercise. If that were the case we'd definitely fuckin' know by now given how much it's been studied.

[Anonymous No.10127552]

>>10127548
I thought 70 IQ was like less than a monkey. I'm pretty sure he's smarter than that, maybe not since he has Parkinson's now. I had a professor that had Parkinson's.

[Anonymous No.10127559]

>>10127552

How a person with a low full-scale IQ comes across depends on what their subtest scores are. There are people out there with an IQ of 70 who are mostly indistinguishable from your average person.

[Anonymous No.10127578]

>>10127552
he died i 2016 anon

[Anonymous No.10127600]

>>10127578
too soon, I think i knew that

[Anonymous No.10127604]

>>10123402
You'd like to cross her tracks. You know you would.

[Anonymous No.10128648]

>>10127448
>Both west africans and African Americans have relatively poor socioeconomic conditions
>In both cases the conditions are improving

[Anonymous No.10128726]

>>10127190
>europeans were borderline retarded with average 70-80 IQ in 1900
I'm not buying this.

[Anonymous No.10129128]

>>10128726
It's true. We'll probably be retarded by the standards of our distant descendents.