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Are you a brain?

>> No.10096686
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>>10096682
I am n-many neural processes

>> No.10096708

>>10096682
A physical system, anon.
>>10096686
please fuck off back to >>>/g/

>> No.10096714

>>10096682
I don't know. If one makes themselves anything more, then the flesh is not the limit of one's body. The greater body is far reaching and includes even the sun as one grand shared organ. When you put on clothes you modify your body. When you survive in the winter by controlling temperature in a vehicle using its heating system, that machinery has become one of your body systems. Our body is full of such hierarchical systems, what of another layer?

It's hard to say, if you damage the brain it's guaranteed to change you. If you alter the environment or the external, it can always be simulated or replaced, to some extent. So I guess the brain would have to be the "you" part, as far as you're concerned. Though after death other people carry various versions of you.

Your body may be gone but I'm gonna carry you on, in my head, in my heart, in my soul. And maybe we'll get lucky and, we'll both live again. Well I don't know, I don't know, I don't think so.

>> No.10096728

>>10096682
A program is not a computer. A story is not a book. A movie is not a roll of film and a projector. None of these are perfect analogies, but hopefully they're close enough for the question at hand that you can see what I mean.

>> No.10096891

>>10096682
I mean pretty much it stores all the information of (you) and just about everything in the body can be replaced besides the brain

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I don't know OP, is this game the computer?

>> No.10096986

>>10096714
>It's hard to say, if you damage the brain it's guaranteed to change you. If you alter the environment or the external, it can always be simulated or replaced, to some extent.

This gave me an interesting thought. You know we say of some men, "he was a man of his time", if they held opinions that we disapprove of today.
From architecture to milieu and politics and fashion and interior design and all aesthetics which are external in a time and place, they have profound influence over the people living there. People with outside perspective call it indoctrination. I would argue that this which is so external also defines who we are. Had I been born in a year 1000s village (if we assume such a thing is possible, despite my genetics needing the people before me to come to existence), I would be very very different from the difference in nurture. So these systems which are so external, are part of me too and define who I am to this point. I am my brain, my body, my room, my house, my forest, my city, my country, and all ideas that inhabit these places, and all art that inhabit these places

>> No.10097977

>>10096686
>>10096728
I'm with you, guys. We are the software, not the hardware. If the software could start running on another "rig" we would feel the continuity. Wouldn't work the other way around.
Remember those old and silly movies about the transplanted hand that starts killing?

>> No.10098044

>>10096682
Are you even a thing? What if you just think you're real? The chemical and electric processes in your brain are just firing in a way to make you think that you have your own thoughts.

>> No.10098105

>>10098044
>make you think that you have your own thoughts.
If you think you have thoughts, the mere thought of that is the proof of your asumption since it is a thought.

>> No.10098159

>>10096912
It's a good game. And it's optimization routine does compute something for sure.

>> No.10098182

>>10096682
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.

>> No.10098277

>>10098105
Is it? Descartes was a hack, and even contemporaries had arguments that destroyed him

>> No.10098314

>>10096682
>Patient: "Dr Cat, it hurts when I do this.."
>Dr. Cat: "Well' don't do that."

>> No.10098316

>>10096682
Nope. Human being. Real person.

>> No.10098326

>>10098277
What contemporaries and what arguments?