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>>3730074

>> No.10092349

>>10092336
Well seeing as how we are about 7 mil posts past that number, the Twitter user was just, much like the rest of his comment, acting in jest.

>> No.10092422

>>10092336
Funny almost last replay on thread 3730074 was one guy call everybody idiot for tried solved complex problem and call people to better write paper and send to avrix or shut up.

>> No.10092918
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>>10092349
>10 million posts now
It’s actually kind of depressing that we’ve only produced one thing that people want to cite. Most researches, even at terrible universities, have a few hundred citations a few years into their work.

>> No.10092936

>>10092918
Shut up you stupid frognigger. Look at the dates in the twitter. There hasnt been 10 million posts since then.

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>>10092936
I meant there have been 10 million posts in total now....

>> No.10093004

How come when I go to 3730074 on warosu I can't see the thread? It looks like there aren't any replies

>> No.10093027

>>10092336
http://mathsci.wikia.com/wiki/The_Haruhi_Problem

>> No.10093034

>>10093027
https://web.archive.org/web/20181024190314/https://warosu.org/sci/thread/3751105

>> No.10093036

hey that's my wiki
i was part of that original discussion years ago with those kind anons who contributed
but it's not solved so i don't know what that tweet is about
it's just got some bounds progress and is really rudimentary

>> No.10093047

>>10092336
>https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18019464/4chan-anon-anime-haruhi-math-mystery
>posted 28 minutes ago

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maybe it's a false flag

>> No.10093080

>>10093047
holy shit this article is so clumsy
"they were just trying to figure out how to enjoy an anime show but stumbled upon something huge"
"this shows that math isn't just for professionals. everyone can access it!"

the people involved in those discussions here were career mathematicians though

>> No.10093091

>>10092918
>we

>> No.10093101

>>10092918
Don't forget 4chan sort
https://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/fall13/cos226/lectures/52Tries.pdf

>> No.10093103

>>10092422
Good try buddy, that was almost a sentence. You'll get it next time.

>> No.10093107

>>10092918
But we probably inspired some anons to study math, physics and engineering. They probably published lots of things

>> No.10093110

>>10093107
>New anons end up in /pol/,/a/,/r9k and /g/

>> No.10093123

>>10093110
I despise /g/, there's just mentally ill autistic trannies posting there.

>> No.10093271

>>10093123
/g/, /r9k/ and /mu/ are the worst boards on this site

>> No.10093281

>>10092336

jesus christ now they're gonna start bitching about /sci/ as well.

fuck off with your career and citations, let us continue being autistic.

>> No.10093603

>>10092336
>The Haruhi problem

The only problem I see is a lack of a third season.

>> No.10093704

>>10092918
>Most researches, even at terrible universities, have a few hundred citations a few years into their work.
>At least one study found that the average academic article is read by about 10 people, and half of these articles are never read at all.

>> No.10093715

everyone knows that /sci/ has lurker grad students, and everyone should ALSO know (but don't because they're twitter idiots) that grad students know when to not publish important findings to 4chan.

we can answer your dumb questions, but don't expect anything really interesting to come from here that isn't already in the literature; we're trained in recognizing what results are publishable and we're severely starved of publishable results

>> No.10093716

>>10092936
Wow, you are dumb.

>> No.10093854 [DELETED] 

>>10093080
>The user was just trying to figure out the most efficient way to watch episodes of a nonlinear anime series, but
this author is horrifyingly stupid if he actually believes that

>> No.10093950

>>10093854
Welcome to the world of liberal arts majors.

>> No.10094042

>>10093715
that's the conclusion the article came to -- they said it's either an amateur or a casual mathematician. a grad student is neither (ideally) -- none would throw away such an important result like that

>> No.10094064

>>10093078
Underrated

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>>10093101
>meme sort

>> No.10094074

>>10093271
/g/ and /tv/ are the worst. Their memes are unfunny and stale.

>> No.10094083
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>yfw /sci/ solves the Riemann hypothesis

>> No.10094085

>>10093107
you guys inspired me to double major in math and bio
>>10094074
/tv/ is funny fuck off

>> No.10094289

>>10093271
/v/, /b/, /pol/ and /biz/ are worse simply by virtue of their shit spiling onto all the other boards

>> No.10094298

>>10094083
If /sci/ solves that I will literally kill myself and livestream the fur suit, ron paul, parachute seppuku.

>> No.10094308

>>10094083
No, no, no: /sci/ will _disprove_ the Riemann hypothesis.

>> No.10094317

>>10093715
The guy who came up with the lower bound was an undergrad. He was planning to use this result to apply to a good grad school. By the looks of it, he gave up on the idea, as 4chan (and affiliated wikis) is (are) the only place(s) that has the proof.

>> No.10094579

>>10094308
>disprove
That is not a thing, anon. Do you perhaps mean that /sci/ will prove the negation of the Riemann Hypothesis?

>> No.10094584

>>10092918
You are top of your field if you achieve >100 citations per year on average.

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>>10094579
>>disprove
>That is not a thing, anon. Do you perhaps mean that /sci/ will prove the negation of the Riemann Hypothesis?

>> No.10094636

>>10093080
Historiographically, I wonder at what point in the 00s the media went from assuming everyone on the Internet was a computer genius to assuming everyone on the Internet was a bored kid.

>> No.10094667

>>10094636
2007

>> No.10094679

dont forget the proof of the JB conjecture

>> No.10094681

>>10094679
https://www.scribd.com/doc/233602815/Barnetts-Identity-Pdf1

>> No.10094684

>>10092336
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/search/order/asc/

Was going to suggest fireden archive for /sci/ since some images seem to be broken on warosu but fireden /sci/ only goes back to 2013 and this Haruhi math genuis poster posted back in a 2011 thread.

Just in case you /sci/ posters didn't know.

Warosu and Fireden both archive /sci/

>>/sci/

https://boards.fireden.net/sci/

>> No.10094688

>>10094667
>>10094636
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

>Eternal September or the September that never ended[1] is Usenet slang for a period beginning in September 1993,[2][3] the month that Internet service provider America Online began offering Usenet access to its many users, overwhelming the existing culture for online forums. The influx was also caused by the aggressive direct mailing campaign by AOL Chief Marketing Officer Jan Brandt, which most notably involved distributing millions of floppy disks and CD-ROMs with free trials of AOL.[4]

>Before then, Usenet was largely restricted to colleges and universities. Every September, a large number of incoming freshmen would acquire access to Usenet for the first time, taking time to become accustomed to Usenet's standards of conduct and "netiquette". After a month or so, these new users would either learn to comply with the networks' social norms or tire of using the service.

>Whereas the regular September freshman influx would quickly settle down, the influx of new users from AOL did not end and Usenet's existing culture did not have the capacity to integrate the sheer number of new users.[5][6] Since then, the popularity of the Internet has brought on a constant stream of new users and thus, from the point of view of the pre-1993 Usenet users, the influx of new users in September 1993 never ended.

>Dave Fischer coined the term in a January 1994 post to alt.folklore.computers: "It's moot now. September 1993 will go down in net history as the September that never ended."[7]

>> No.10094698

>>10094688
And ten years to the day that September never ended, on October 1, 2003
>It's moot now.

>> No.10094709

>>10094684
I don't like the tone of your post. Some of us have been in the very thread that proof was posted you know.

>> No.10094734

>that new discussion on the guy's twitter about tripcodes
>"they could prove they posted the proof by showing the password to the trip"
Time to get crack that shit and take the credit.

>> No.10094737

>>10094684
>2011
Holy shit I thought it was earlier in this year.

>> No.10094855

>>10094734
Holy shit the newfaggotry.

>> No.10095084

How about compiling a report in LaTeX with a serious abstract but copy-pasted posts (with people calling each other faggot and such) and try to have it published in a peer-reviewed journal to have a DOI to cite? That would literally meme the scientific community.

>> No.10095090

>>10095084
What problem do you want us to discuss?

>> No.10095098

>>10095084
>>10095090
Wait, you're suggesting doing a write-up of the haruhi problem? Sure it would be easy to try, just send it in as Anonymous

>> No.10095171

>>10095084
I was actually thinking of doing a formal writeup to the Journal of the AMS, but without the memes and shitposts. Some people have formalized the proof somewhat, but not in a rigorous or proper way. I do intend to cite them though. And Anonymous.

>> No.10095268

>>10095171
>I was actually thinking of doing a formal writeup to the Journal of the AMS, but without the memes and shitposts.
That was already done twice. See Houston's twitter.

>> No.10095275

>>10095268
That's not a submission, and it's not in AMS form. It's also missing a lot of information needed to make the proof rigorous and convincing. It's just a slight formalization of the discussion, not an academic paper. I would obviously cite that though.

>> No.10095287

whoever posted that proof is the most autistic weeb to have ever browsed 4chan.

>> No.10095289

now we just need an anon to prove P != NP to get (you)'s

>> No.10095298

>>10095289
can P != NP somehow be connected to anime in order to motivate the autists?

>> No.10095310

>>10095298
Tell them they need it for robot waifus

>> No.10095312

>>10093101
Man, it took me a while to figure how that algorithm works, but now I can't stop laughing. Genius indeed.

>> No.10095327

>>10095298
optimize anime schedules with polynomial time

>> No.10095841

>>10095289
>>10095298
>>10095310
>>10095327
You can solve any math problem if you have an anime girl asking you to solve it.

>> No.10095913

>>10095841
The proof of this is left as an exercise to the reader.

Hint: use a Clifford algebra

>> No.10096181

why was post delete

>> No.10096381

>>10095287
If you think that, you haven't spent one thread dealing with ACK.

>> No.10096383

>>10093101
Isn't that joke from way before then?

>> No.10096443

>>10095084
I've thought about some crazy autistic genius savant being born who not only has the ability to solve problems nobody else can, but also to present them cleanly so that other people can understand; the perfect proof writer. And he would EXCLUSIVELY submit pdfs to vixra, made with microsoft word, all in comic sans, with mspaint diagrams if necessary, each page a different color

>> No.10096446

>>10093271
why does everyone hate /mu/?

>> No.10096575

>>10095298
you are given a line-sketch of your waifu. Can you find a way to color her with k different colors in polynomial time

>> No.10096598

>>10093123
>>10093271
>>10094074
/g/ gets fucked because clover sets it as default, and that /v/ always go there for consumers electronic advices. There is literally nothing wrong embracing GNU + Linux.

>> No.10096603

>>10096598
>There is literally nothing wrong embracing GNU + Linux

Communism is always wrong.

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>>10096446
>>10096446
>only listens to cringey postmodern and limpdick indie, yet still thinks they can authoritatively claim that death grips and kendrick are the only good rap
>acts like Fantano is reddit but hangs off his nuts 10x more than reddit ever has

>> No.10096642

>>10096575
Genius
Ok autists get on it: the waifu coloring problem

>> No.10096752

>>10094317
>tfw not smart enough to prove a lower bound to a difficult problem as an undergrad

>> No.10096770

>>10092336
With this, you guys have blown the fuck out of all reddit.

>> No.10096890

>>10096598
>/g/ gets fucked because clover sets it as default
>implying people who download don't already visit /g/

>> No.10097244

>>10096381
Yeah, you're the only one who thinks that is real.
You're also the one who derails threads.

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>>10094688
>netiquette
jesus i feel old

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>> No.10097722

>>10093107
True for me. I really liked this place as an undergraduate. All the dick measuring threads pushed me to succeed. Ended up co-authoring with an astronaut when I was a junior.

>> No.10097723

>>10097687
Schizo

>> No.10097729

>>10097723
faggot who will suffer and suffer, and whose suffering will go on and on, possibly long beyond the time that they lose the memory of what they had ever done to get on bad side.

>> No.10097734

>>10097687
step from 9 to 10 is wrong

>> No.10097740

>>10097734
That is not a constructive criticism to say "It is wrong." You should say what you think the issue is.

>> No.10097742

>>10094698
Wow. That is legit uncanny.

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>>10097734
>>10097740

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>>10097756

>> No.10098024

>>10097687
And then there's this faggot
Feel free to leave, you won't be missed. Or go claim your Fields medal if you really think you're right

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>>10098024
I tell you... when I leave I'm going to come back as soon as I can and you're not going to like what happens then.

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>>10097734
>entire paper of garbled nonsense to choose from and he picks the argument that 1/infinity = 0 to call "wrong"

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>>10098177
Just sent a screenshot of this reply to the FBI tipline. You can't be sayin shit like that. Good thing you posted your real name in this thread.

>> No.10098338

>>10093080
>the people involved in those discussions here were career mathematicians though
Do you know that for sure, or are you just assuming?

>> No.10098350

>>10093101
Is any of the rest of the PDF related to the 4chan sort, or is it just a joke for the first slide?
Like, is it the kernel of a viable sorting method, or just stupid?

>> No.10098351

>>10098297
>>>/bant/6761917

>> No.10098371

>>10094083
psst... [math]\frac12 + i (\pi ^{1728}-1)[/math]

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>>10098371
ummmm... guys

>> No.10098397

>>10098383
wtf it's real

>> No.10098421

>>10094636
>historiographically

You should look up what words mean before you use them

>> No.10098446

>>10098371
nani?

>> No.10098470

>>10098383
>>10098397
>>10098446
Are you guys pretending? That doesn't say anything about the riemann hypothesis

>> No.10098485

they found him. https://forums.warpportal.com/index.php?/topic/52873-my-thoughts-on-the-mvp-changes/


https://twitter.com/ericmuyser/status/1055016303965229058
>Edited by Renaldoo, 24 October 2018 - 09:34 PM.

>> No.10098490

>>10095289
See: >>10097359

>> No.10098494

>>10098485
so he was just trolling? kek what a king

>> No.10098539

>>10098485
That's just some random fag who happen to be seeing that solution on wiki I believe.
http://archive.li/5mjZp

>> No.10098554

>>10098485
>>10098494
>>10098539
>>/sci/thread/S3751105

>>/sci/thread/S3751105#p3751197

RenaldoMoon was in the original /sci/ thread.

He was a tripfag though and from the context of the thread, he is not the anonymous genius mathematician we are seeking.

As you can see, RenaldoMoon later posted the proof to to a Wikia but he did not credit himself as the one who came up with the proof.

In his own words, he credited the proof to "Credit: Anonymous (/sci/)"

If Renaldo Moon was the actual person, he would have credited the proof to his own tripcode but he did not.

http://mathsci.wikia.com/wiki/The_Haruhi_Problem

>> No.10098557

>>10098485
>>10098494
>>10098539
>>10098554
http://mathsci.wikia.com/wiki/The_Haruhi_Problem?action=history

Renaldo Moon was the person who created the wikia page back in 2011 but he was not the person who came up with the proof.

>> No.10098569

>>10098554
>>10098557
Funny how light trolling of ponifags turned out that 7 years later he had to delete the post. Autism at every corner.

>> No.10098680

>>10096598
You can change the default, idiot. It initially defaults to the first board you add.

>> No.10098718

>>10098569
i dont think anyone back then thought it'd turn into something serious
they even said in the thread to archive it on the /sci/ wiki to continue working on it, so that probably means they didn't think they were quite there

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>>10098371
>>10098383
>>10098397
>>10098446
>a zero of the function
>on the Re(z)=1/2 line
Who would have thunk

>> No.10098788
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10098788

The mathematician known as 4chan.

>> No.10098891 [DELETED] 

[math] \frac12 + i (\pi ^{1728}-1) [/math]

>> No.10098977

>>10098421
I'm interested in how the history of the Internet has been written about.
Do you have a better term for that?

>> No.10098987

>>10098788
please... just get back to that place whence you came from (reddit)

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>>10092918
um, sweaty?

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1610.03452.pdf

>> No.10099024

>>10098992
Not an accomplishment

>> No.10099206

>>10098992
He was referring specifically to /sci/ you illiterate negroid.

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>>10096603
>GNU/Linux is communism

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>> No.10099466

>>10099234
>unironically calling it ganoo loonix
What does Stallman’s smegma taste like?

>> No.10099525

>>10092336
FUCK NORMALFAGS

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GNU+LINUX IS COMMUNISM
AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH COMMUNISM

>> No.10099830

>>10099234
>I wrote this and I don't want to charge money for it
sounds more like freedom than communism

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>>10092336
I'm the one who solved it. I don't need credit though. I have plenty of self esteem.

>> No.10100085

>>10099830
Go away ESR, your bullshit lolbertarianism is not welcome here. You weirdo fuck.

>> No.10100109

>>10099539
Kill yourself.