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10072243 No.10072243 [Reply] [Original]

What is the point of manned spaceflight?

>> No.10072264

>>10072243
Honestly it seems like a much better idea to set up a colony using robots years and years in advance before humans are sent there.

It may it will not ever be feasible for humans to travel long distance in space. Maybe AI will colonise the galaxy and not us.

>> No.10072271

>>10072264
t/ V-ger

>> No.10072276
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10072276

>>10072243
Boldly going.

>> No.10072278

>>10072276
More like Shartner Kuck

>> No.10072282

>>10072271
I mean I'm a bio student so I really don't want it to be true

>> No.10072290

To conquer the stars obviously.

>but its hard!!!!!!

Feel free to stay here then

>> No.10072294

>>10072290
Yeah you'll be dead long before that shit happens too

>> No.10072301

>>10072294
Sorry mate don't know if you have been reading the news lately but if progress continues at it's current pace in the rocket industry, we are going to have manned bases off planet very very soon.

Especially when all the richfags get jelly of all the attention of the jap dude who goes to the moon and will feel compelled to one up each other.

>> No.10072304

>>10072301
>the news is indicative of the future
stop

>> No.10072310

>>10072304
>Current and historical events have no relevance

Not an argument

>> No.10072320
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10072320

>>10072243
Optimized.

>> No.10072332

Serves as the first baby step toward indefinitely outrunning the pace of change in the universe which will engulf us if we just sit on our hands and do nothing... ye of little faith

>> No.10072365

>>10072243

We've been sending probes to Mars for 40 years and a single manned mission could have achieved more in a few weeks on the surface. That's why.

>> No.10072394

>>10072243
You have to get to O'Neil orbits somehow.

>> No.10072397
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10072397

>>10072301
>very very soon.

>> No.10072416

>>10072243
Unmanned spaceflight is a meme and won't properly replace manned spaceflight in capabilities for decades, or even centuries. Also consciousness cannot be uploaded into some gay "cloud" which will be put on sublight probes to other solar systems. That's about as sci-fi as fucking warp drives or some shit.

>> No.10072428

>>10072243
Sex in zero g.

>> No.10072636

>>10072243
>hitting a screw with a hammer
Russians/commies confirmed retarded

>> No.10072645

>>10072394
This.
Only retards is this thread until this option.

>> No.10072648

>>10072416
It's not. If we used manned space exploration, we would only have explored a fraction of what we have explored today. Read, we wouldn't have explored anything at all. Robots and AI are only getting better
>>10072645
>>10072394
You need to learn to speak english.

>> No.10072651

>>10072648
>You need to learn to speak english.
Are you really doing the Hollywood TV thing where you say "SPEAK ENGLISH" when people say something remotely "scientific"?

>> No.10072666

>>10072645
>You have to get to O'Neil orbits somehow.
>This.
>Only retards IS this thread until this option.
And you call that remotely scientific? What the hell is an "O'Neil" orbit?

>> No.10072675

>>10072666
>What the hell is an "O'Neil" orbit?
Sorry mate
I don't often think about people in this discussion who are not up to speed

And O'Neill Cylinder is a human habitat

>> No.10072965

>>10072365
Maybe our probes are shit then.
Imagine if they spent all the billions necessary to send man to Mars but instead invested it on a fleet of suped up probes and space telescopes.

>> No.10073046
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>>10072271
hes right though, the risks and costs of having humans set up the colonies are far higher than the alternative and without any advantages worth mentioning. best to let the bots set everything up for us and then move in (unless youre elon and you want a somewhat legal way to kill off some antisocial redditors.)

>> No.10073051

>>10072675
that seems more like the means to manned space travel rather than the reason for it

>> No.10073083

>>10072243
tourism

>> No.10073177

>>10072636
>rocket flew.
>fell in swamp.
>the wage is -
>the same as the work!
The last 2 are trickier but it more or less means you get what you pay for. And the russians don't like paying workers hence the 200$ or so wages in the aerospace sector.

>> No.10073392
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10073392

>>10072320
>still PNG24 with crappy jpeg artifacts
>"""optimized"""
I'm not gonna fix the crappy artifacts. So have some transparency instad. Why do people convert JPGs to PNG?

>> No.10073578

>>10073392
to spite you

>> No.10074578

>>10072428
>Sex in zero g.
in zero g would a glob of cum separate from itself without outside interference due to the sperm swimming about or would the surface tension of the pre-cum be too great for the sperm to break out.
This question needs an answer, this is why we need space travel.

>> No.10074579

>>10072243
Overcoming a challenge.

>> No.10074592

>>10072243
>What is the point of manned spaceflight?
To satisfy our most earthling of needs, our curiosity.

>> No.10074596

>>10072243
It's better than woman-ed spaceflight

>> No.10074601

>>10074578
But first you have to dock. Yes, sex in space requires docking maneuvers.

>> No.10074621
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10074621

>>10073392
Artifacts removed and optimized.

Either it's a screencapture, or they did some editing using jpeg source material and saved as png. You can occasionally do lossless or near lossless jpeg editing with eg jpegtran.

>> No.10074632

>>10074621
This image may be able to be paletted in the ideal case though, so this makes a good test case. After removing DCT quant artifacts there may be too many colors, as the method is perceptual (SA-DCT) and won't figure out it should just flatten the colors in most regions. So it's still RGB-24 with a tRNS chunk.

>> No.10074636

>>10074621
>optimized
>200k larger
>doesn't know how to select PNG-8
k

>> No.10074696
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10074696

>>10074636
Well, without doing a bit by hand this is pretty much what you'd get for an indexed image. Reducing colors in an image that's perceptually a lot of regions of solid colors has most dithering methods being apt to leave a lot of regions with obvious noise. The alternative is banding, which my version has a bit of.

>> No.10074711

Also, it looks like we just made an image that's better than the source, but ~18% of the size.

>> No.10074874

>>10072243
Terror tactic against other superpowers, means of testing out new technologies and as an autistic exercise for bureaucracies to pour needlessly collected tax money into, also satellites, you needed people to maintenance them. Can do fun albeit pointless experiments in space that are a bit tenuous on Earth where we can't create the same perfect vacuum conditions and zero g simultaneously with ease or for long periods on the order of months or years like ISS. Its fucking pointless though.

>> No.10074907

>>10072243
Despite all our advances, robots are still pretty shit at most tasks compared to a human. That and the fact that the ultimate goal of space exploration is to colonize other planets/stars.

What we could do though, is build a Martian space station and use telepresence to manually control robots on the surface.
The reason Mars rovers have accomplished relatively little all these years is because there's a several minute signal delay to Mars, which makes controlling the rovers extremely slow. Just imagine trying to play a video game with a 800000ms latency. With a Martian space station you could cut that down to seconds, maybe less.

>> No.10075148

>>10074907
>What we could do though, is build a Martian space station and use telepresence to manually control robots on the surface.
Why though? You may as well actually land if you've done all the hard work over moving humans to Mars orbit and back.