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Previous thread:>>10052323

>Is X a meme major?
Unless it is Biomedical, Mechatronics, or Systems Engineering your major XE major is not a “meme”. Additional meme majors include chemical and nuclear engineers. They are challenging degrees but there are just not enough jobs to keep up with graduating students. Many bitter anons in these threads are ChemE students or unemployed ChemE graduates.

>Why is Mechatronics or Bio Engineering a meme degree?
They are often very shallow degrees at the undergraduate level. Students end up becoming a master of none and are outclassed by the more common disciplines. For the longest period of time these courses were only Master/PHD opportunities. A good undergraduate program is very rare for either discipline. Your meme state school isn’t one of those programs.

>I can’t find a job
What is your GPA? What is your experience? Is your resume shit? Do you interview well? When did you start looking?
>GPA
A GPA of 3.0 is the bare minimum for most companies.
>Experience
Experience is helpful but is not needed to get a job. You will have a much tougher time though and will need to grind out applications. College clubs and personal projects are good ways to get at least some experience if it is not professional experience.
>Resume
Post your resume if you want it to be reviewed. Try and quantify actions at your job, don’t just list your responsibilities. If you have no professional experience emphasize your school projects/clubs/personal projects.
>Interviewing
It helps to practice and write down your answers to question that you think you will be asked. Using Glassdoors can be helpful when trying to figure out what kind of questions specific companies ask.
>Candidate
You don’t need to be a 3.9 GPA, 3 internship, non white student to get a job in Engineering. Just keep in mind Apple/Boeing/Broadcom/Google/Intel/etc, don’t generally hire <3.0 GPA no experience autists that are incapable of talking to other human beings.

You will make it!

>> No.10071524

>CAD monkey
>want to live like a man, not a slav(e)
>go to glassdoor
>USA development/r&d jobs 70k starting, going into 90k and above 100k regularly
>look at Catia Jobs
>40k, 60k, max 70k
>go search jobs in Germany
>no salary stated or 40k

It looks like engineering jobs are total shit in whole Europe, not only in slavland.

>> No.10071550

Anyone in grad school? I’m thinking about it but I’m unsure about the GRE. Anyone willing to volunteer your score and major? Not trying for the best schools out there but something respectable.

>> No.10071582

I just found out that calculators have an in-built function to transform polar coordinates to rectangular and vice versa. I've been calculating arctan's for years.

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>>10071463
>You don’t need to be a 3.9 GPA, 3 internship, non white student to get a job in Engineering.

>> No.10071709

>>10071524
Just got a starting job in a small company without experience at 50k. Not sure if you believe the HR department that edits the job offerings, or if you can't bargain.
If you can bargain, and have worked in you field before, you can easily go above 100k, at least in Germany afaik.

>> No.10071717

>>10071463
So when is a Civil Eng section is going to be added to the wiki?

>> No.10071724

>>10071550
>CS major from state school
>3.1 GPA
>89th percentile quant
>Asian american
Got in Ivy League grad school

>> No.10071731

>>10071724
>CS

>>>/g/

>> No.10071751

>>10071524
you don't understand cost of living my dude. you are making $80k but paying $2k+ in rent, $20k a year on healthcare, and another $25k in taxes. oh and lets not forget those fat student loans you are paying off if you are an american.

>> No.10071756

>>10071751
If you're smart enough to go into STEM in America, your university should be paying you to go to school, not the other way around.

if you're paying to study STEM, u need to reevaluate ur life.

>> No.10071805

>>10071756
>t. black woman

>> No.10071880

>>10071683

>Just keep in mind Apple/Boeing/Broadcom/Google/Intel/etc, don’t generally hire <3.0 GPA no experience autists that are incapable of talking to other human beings.

I'm so sick of shitters shitting up my /engi/ with their shitty shittiness.

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>>10071880
Seeing the jobless people that post their resumes in these threads, I don't think they're actually shitters, boomer.

>> No.10071944

Is mech E the most based? Based on experience I’d say yes, most based students and least faggots by far.

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>>10071944
MechE's definitely were the most normal among all the engineering discipline while I was in College. The computer engineers seemed to be the most autistic.

>> No.10071999

>>10071717
Do it, anon!

>> No.10072017

>AutoCAD 2018
>1 GHz processor and basic graphics recommended

>AutoCAD 2019
>3GHz processor and 4GB dedicated graphic card recommended

What the fuck happened? Even fucking Revit doesn't require that much power for basic/balanced config.
I might start using Draftsight or other 2D tool now, this ain't no joke.

>> No.10072163

Should I try to apply to a place in person? I saw the job listing but it's from 9 days ago, I feel like I have good chance though and I'm getting kinda desperate.
The place is Highland associates btw of it helps answer my question.

Or is just applying online and hoping for the best really the best option despite it not working for me?

>> No.10072207

>>10071999
I would, but I'm just a ME interested in Civil Eng topics. It seems there are no CivEngs here in /sci/

>> No.10072228

>>10071944
I'd say so. In my school the EE/CpE majors are autistic af and the CivE/IE brainlets make look CS people smart in comparison.

The ME guys on the other hand are pretty chill.

>> No.10072242

>>10072163
>we appreciate the interest sir but all of the applications are done online. Here's a card with our website on it :^)

>> No.10072250

>>10072242
The thing is they dont really have online applications listings it's just a listing on craigslist. Seems it's a pretty small company, its not like corning or something.

>> No.10072260

>>10072250
If that's the case then you must have the HR niggers email.

>> No.10072270

>>10072228
>and the CivE/IE brainlets make look CS people smart
Are you a CivE/IE brainlet who can't communicate well with others?

>> No.10072314

not an engineer just curious, do any of you ever use /engi/ as a way of finding local anons to work on something with or does engineering not really work like that? like im sure this is a completely retarded example but say you wanted to design some kind of drone and you were a mechanical engineer, might it not be useful to find an electrical engineer to help out with it?

>> No.10072438

>>10072314
Most of the engineers here are either autistic/ complete spergs, or are too greedy to introduce other anons to their ideas.

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>>10072314
I personally know about 50 engineers/engineering students that I'd rather call up and collaborate with than some autist on /engi/, /sci/, and 4chan in general

>> No.10072574

someone please reply and help me

i fucked up and failed a first year uni subject. how much will this effect my employability?

>> No.10072589

>>10071463
>Additional meme majors include chemical and nuclear engineers. They are challenging degrees but there are just not enough jobs to keep up with graduating students. Many bitter anons in these threads are ChemE students or unemployed ChemE graduates.

This is because these idiots aren't willing to relocate, there's hordes of companies that hire ChemE majors in the bay area and gulf of Mexico states

>> No.10072624

>>10072574
Practically no effect. You still have time to retake the class and do well in school. No one is going to care if you retook English 102 - How To Right Good for Engineers.

>> No.10072652

>>10072624
its calculus I. does that make a difference?

>> No.10072658

>>10072624
>English 102 - How To Right Good for Engineers
>Right
Looks like you need to retake that class, indeed.

>>10072652
Calculus I is an essential class for engineering. A lot of stuff that you learn there will be used in Calculus II, III, Differential Equations, and in a great majority of your core engineering classes. You probably would want to retake it in any case. You just can't survive without it in an engineering program.

>> No.10072660

>>10072658
I will 100% retake that class but im just wondering if itll effect my future employability as itll show on my academic transcript

>> No.10072676

>>10072660
People won’t care or look for that. Only way it could be an issue is if you have a history of repeating courses which then you might be looked at as unreliable. One is no big deal.

>> No.10072677

>>10072660
Most schools and probably employers only care about your last 2 years since that’s when you take the specialized classes.

>> No.10072679

I'm dropping out of Mechanical :)

Don't let your dreams be dreams

>> No.10072681

>>10072676
>>10072677
phew. thanks bros.

>> No.10072682

>>10072681
Honestly you're a lot better off retaking calc I and really trying to do well the second time rather than get a D and never be able to keep up in any other math course because you don't understand something properly.

>> No.10072684

>>10072679
Same, bro. I'm dropping out of Electrical.

>> No.10072687

>>10072684
What year? I'm just starting fourth but still taking third year courses.

Turns out they actually intended to kick me out last year but they forgot to, so I shouldn't even have been allowed to enroll.

>> No.10072689
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I'm currently pursuing a degree in ChemE. I plan on transferring to a university in the fall to do my actual degree coursework. I've already completed all of calculus, diff eq/linear, physics, and I will have all the o-chem requirements by the fall as well.
Is ChemE truly as fucked as it's made out to be in terms of jobs? I just want to have an okay job when I graduate. Any personal stories/insight? If I were to switch, I'd likely do another engineering major or jump on the physics path if I had to switch.

>> No.10072690

>>10072687
Second year, but I only recently realized how boring it is. What do you think about it though? Curious about your opinion since you're a senior already.

>> No.10072698

>>10072687
>>10072687
>>10072690
And also what is the reason that you're dropping out? If not too personal, of course. Just got disappointed with the degree in general? Is material very boring? Or challenging?

>> No.10072712

>>10072690
I've hated it since I started. The only reason I stayed was out of pride. The only classes I've enjoyed have been electives from other faculties.

>> No.10072732

Is MechE dead?

>> No.10072758

>>10072689
> I've already completed all of calculus, diff eq/linear, physics, and I will have all the o-chem requirements by the fall as well.

You you're about to enter a world of hurt, those are baby level stuff compared to what's about to come. I hope you liked DE because you're going to have to do entire equations on the fly in your head if you want to finish the exams.

Job wise it's gotten a lot better since trump came, he really did do good for jobs.

>> No.10072760

>>10072732
Every engineering degree is dead mate, nobody hires engineers anymore

>> No.10072767

Respect ranking

Nuclear Engineers > Electrical engineers > Chemical Engineers > Mechanical Engineers > Computer Engineers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Janitor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Homeless bum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil "Engineers"

>> No.10072770

>>10072712
Yeah, that's exactly my relationship with EE now. Hate it. It's boring. I don't feel like doing that kind of job. It's not very exciting. Maybe it's exciting for spergs, autists and nerds (of which I am neither) but I feel like it's a complete waste of time and unnecessary efforts due to load. I also hate the fact that literally only 10% of all the stuff I have to stuff into my brain will be used on the job.

>> No.10072773

>>10072767
Are you a nuclear engineer by any chance?

>> No.10072776

>>10072773
Electrical, but i have respect for Nuclear engineers having the balls to purse such a hard but useless degree.

The same cannot be said for C*vil "Engineers" for which any 7th grader can do their "Job"

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Can anybody explain why EE is in "unbelievable" tier? As an EE student myself, I have absolutely no idea what's so "unbelievable" about it.

>> No.10072781

>>10072780
It's unbelievable that there are tards that actually study it, same with Chemical

>> No.10072791

>>10072780
It's the most math intensive engineering degree.

>> No.10072849

>>10072780
Hardest undergrad degree, along with nuclear eng.

>> No.10072854

How marketable is engineering management? I'm not nerdy enough for engineering, I want to work with people, but I love math.

>> No.10072858

>>10072854
Engineers do work with people, do you think they lock engineers in a basement somewhere and tell them to do math?

>> No.10072907

>>10071731
>CS isn't just math.

>> No.10073062

How do I fill my resume as an EE graduate? I've never held a job before and I'm at a loss kinda

>> No.10073102

>>10072858
I'm just not as good at physics/math/engineering as some other people, and I'm more interested in management over engineering, but I still like them nonetheless, so I wouldn't mind working in that field.

>> No.10073114

faggots

>> No.10073187

>>10072776
Imagine being such a brainlet that you can't see the value in civil engineers designing all infrastructure, roads, and bridges just to name a few. This is why everyone thinks EEs are autistic.

>> No.10073278

>>10071724

Which/how?

I'm about the same. I do well on standardized tests, so I think GRE will be really good.

>> No.10073377

Who /mechatronics/ here?
Living the meme bois

>> No.10073421

>>10072791
Wouldn't that be mathematical engineering?

>> No.10073481

>>10073377
mechatronics is the future bro, be proud of being a meme

>> No.10073770

>>10073062
Everyone in this thread is fucked, but you are the most fucked of them all.

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How are the letters of recommendation coming, anons?

I'm applying for fellowships.

>> No.10073896

Just started EE, loving calc, kinda enjoying circuit analysis, hating programming.

How fucked am I?

>> No.10074146

>>10073896
hnnnng i’m so fucking jealous right now

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>>10073278
>>10071724
>>10071550
Here you can see Electrical Engineers are the biggest brainlets.

>> No.10074185

>>10071463
Why do you always start these threads with fucking career advice?

Unemployment in engineer has never been worse than other majors if the engineering job market is in the rut. Most people get a low paying job, and it gets better over time. That's life.

In any case I don't want to see fucking careershit on the front page every time instead of what this thread has the potential to be: posts about actual engineering.

>> No.10074199

>>10074185
kys

>> No.10074212

>>10073896
Just switch to math

>> No.10074306

>>10074166
How much do people usually study for the GRE? I got scores way better than this without preparing.

>> No.10074310

How to learn HVAC in 24 hours?

>> No.10074361

>>10074310
Ductilator and Trane psycrometric chart is all you need.

>> No.10074434

Just got a job offer from Boeing and I have an on site interview with broadcom this week. We're all gonna make it bois.

>> No.10074461

why does catia suck so much fucking dick

>> No.10074466

>>10074166
LMAO
>tfw """""meme""""" degree IE outperformed literally all other engineers except for materials
Another proof that mostly either nerds or brainlets go into engi. You have to be truly fucked up to waste 3 years studying all that crap.
Also
>all engineers got outperformed by Earth and Marine Sciences
get rekt, kek

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>Thank you for your interest in the Electrical Engineer position. Weappreciate the timeyou invested in the application process.

>After evaluating your application for this position, we have determined that your skillsets and work experience, although impressive, do not meet the minimum qualifications.

fuck me. I was in a military program in college so I didn't do any internships then right when I graduate I get diagnosed with a medical issue and get discharged. No real military experience to put on a resume, no bennies, nothing to fucking put. Might as well just kms FUCK

>> No.10074490

AEchads, assemble

>> No.10074491

>>10074466
I don't need further degradation desu.

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Had 4 interviews last week for coops and only one replied back to have another interview. Had it today and if it went well I have to have ANOTHER fucking interview on-site.
Electrical engineering is a meme degree

>> No.10074536

What do people who can't get an engineering job in their first year or so after graduating even do?

>> No.10074547

>ynr trying to get an internship as a non-us citizen freshman

>> No.10074604

>>10074536
i plan to runaway from home and probably die in a ditch somewhere

>> No.10074635

>>10074434
Post resume.

>> No.10074639

>>10074536
Probably going to kms honestly.

>> No.10074658
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>lecturers make a joke in class about how the kids in the other sessions messed up on their exams
>everyone laughs as if they'd never make those mistakes and they're all above forgetting something relatively simple like the difference between a half adder and full adder
>just looking at them like pic related
Anyone feel like these lectures aren't funny at all? Or is everyone just brown nosing?

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>>10074635
It's not much, but apparently it's good enough.

>> No.10074684

>>10074679
Fuck it, maybe I should go back for an MS.

>> No.10074687

>>10074658
Chances are the exact same thing is happening in the other sessions too.

>> No.10074688

>>10074679
>>10074684
Btw, how much did they offer you for compensation?

>> No.10074694

>>10074688
Boeing is still making the package, but I got a call at the end of last week that I was getting an offer. It's a starting level position as an electromagnetics effects engineer in Seattle, so it's probably not great, but more than I make now i'm sure. I'm hoping the broadcom interview goes well because that work seems more interesting personally.
>>10074684
An MS is honestly a weird thing. It puts you in a strange place if you don't have the research/real world experience to back up the degree, since it generally means companies will have to pay you more, but won't offer starting positions if they can get someone cheaper. You have to show that it's more than the degree that matters.

>> No.10074706

>>10074679
>physics
>solidworks

>> No.10074712

>>10074706
I used it to model my heater stage in undergrad, since it has a pretty easy to use thermal package. It's also all I had access to at the time

>> No.10074720

>>10074679
What font is that?

>> No.10074722

>>10074166
>>10074306
Keep in mind these are people who intend to apply to a graduate program. Not accepted students.

>> No.10074724

>>10074720
I don't remember sorry, it's whatever the resume class I was using spit out in LaTeX.

>> No.10074741

>>10074720
Times new Roman, I guess

>> No.10074748

>>10074679
i thought you weren't supposed to have a multiple page resume wtf

>> No.10074752

>>10074748
Any more than 2 is pushing it, but if you have enough stuff that's worth putting on there you might as well. I couldn't cram my stuff down into 1 page so I made it a solid 2. It's not like the resume police are going to arrest you if you don't keep it to 1 page.

>> No.10074756

>>10074679
Have you ever used ANSYS?

>> No.10074758

>>10074756
I haven't but I know people who have. It wasn't ever something I really needed to use.

>> No.10074764

I have a BS EE from a good school with a 3.6 GPA but no internships and no published research result. I'm considering applying to do an online MSEE at UCLA or Columbia and trying to apply for internships/co-ops while completing it so I'd actually have some experience. Would that be really dumb? I can't really afford to go back full time to do my MS in person

>> No.10074768

We need the CivilE list for /sci/ wiki, like MechE and Aerospace.

>> No.10074775

>>10074768
Then add it

>> No.10074800

>>10074775
I'm not a CivilE, I'm just interested in structures.

>> No.10074813

Does the phrase "20 degrees Celsius step input applied at time t = 0" mean f(0) = 20u(t) where u(t) is the unit step?

>> No.10074923 [DELETED] 

Will taking a ahitty HVAC job ruin my career prospects if I hate HVAC?

>> No.10074924

Will taking a shitty HVAC job ruin my career prospects if I hate HVAC?

>> No.10074936

>>10074924
Haha I've been wanting to ask this exact question. Just didn't know how to frame it.
Also is HVAC hard? I gotta say I don't know jackshit about it at all and barely remember thermo. Says they'll train you though.

>> No.10074988

>>10074748
He has an MS. It's pretty normal for MS's to have a two page resume.

>> No.10075009

Anyone here working as an engineer in a university or research center? I.e. as an engineer in a research team, not IT.
What is the lifestyle like?

>> No.10075093

>>10072780
because it's one of the hardest degrees out there
>>10073421
ecks dee

>> No.10075096

>>10073377
>>10073481
Need to rank well this semester to apply for it. Wish me luck bros

>> No.10075100

>>10072780
materials engineering seems to a lot of quantum shit

>> No.10075101

>>10073896
>hating programming
Unless you wanna work on the brainlet field (see electrotechnical), you'll need programming

>> No.10075159

>>10074536
Grad school, that's what I did

>> No.10075162

>>10071463
How do you draw block diagrams? Like the ones for PID controllers.

>> No.10075168

>>10075162
Simulink ?

>> No.10075171

>>10074813
No, I'd assume it meant f(t)=20u(t), t>0. They would've called it an impulse if it was just at f(0), and it doesn't even make physical sense to do that

>>10074924
Yes, once you're there for a year or two, you'll only be able to find jobs im HVAC. The only way out would be to get a Master's in something unrelated or to apply for something outside of engineering, e.g. code monkey.

>> No.10075181

>>10072854
If you do it, do it for a Master's, and work as an engineer for at least a couple of years before you try to go into management. It's a lot easier to get a management role that way.

>> No.10075191

>>10075168
I mean the ones for papers and thesis.
I started using inkscape but it's not tidy and the arrows are unfixable (the pointy end of the arrow does not snap on the external border of the block because the arrow and the block border have thickness).
TikZ is neat in this regard but turns into a convoluted mess quickly especially with nested loops

>> No.10075194

>>10075168
>>10075191
Ideally something like DOT (for trees and graphs) but for control system diagrams (straight arrows, 90 degree angles of the links)

>> No.10075196

EE undergrad here. Very strongly considering going to graduate school for control systems. Any recommendations/warnings for the field in general? I'd like to do R&D some day.

>> No.10075401

>>10074536
Finance in all honesty, I feel like a fucking dumb ass for not going into business.

>> No.10075446

>>10074536

Running in a woods screaming until they collapse out of exhaustion. Then they gorge themselves on plant roots and wildlife and then cycle begins anew. Annually 3,000 endangered species die because of unemployed engineers, grizzly bears and mountain lions among some.

>> No.10075489

If my first 3 years GPA is embarrassingly bad, but I turn it around senior year, can I make a case for myself for employers or am I just fucked.

>> No.10075498

>>10075489
If you study engineering, on average you are not going to make it. If you have a bad GPA you are really really not going to make it.

>> No.10075518

>>10075498
Thanks, guess I'll just join the army or something then.

>> No.10075522

I’m studying EE rn and have a 3.1 despite getting straigt C’s in math and physics but don’t have shit social skills. I know a lot of people in me and ce with below s 3.0, like <3.0, >2.7 who’ve been offered internships and opportunities because they can actually converse and interact with higher ups like a capable non autistic human being. It’s actually fucking nuts how far just being able to talk to people will get you. You can always get trained on the job anyway is what I was told by my supervisor

>> No.10075566

>>10075522
I was recently told to be as superficial as possible during my organization’s weekly briefings in order to appease the higher ups. Apparently, half of my job as an engineer is pretending to know things. We live in a strange world, anon.

>> No.10075660

>>10075566
It’s pretty nuts man. I mean I get “decent” grades and understand most of what I learn in my ece classes but that shit just doesn’t prepare you for a real job even though I’m basically just troubleshooting and engineering logic devices. It’s just a different feel and atmosphere than a lab or something so you really need to at least not be socially inept to properly function

>> No.10075675

>Buck converter in class
>Ooga Booga dumb dont get it
>Fuck it I will just simulate it and then I will get it
>simulation doesnt work
LMAO

>> No.10075714

>>10073896
Are you me?

>> No.10075880

>C+ gpa
>literally never had a job before
>no personal projects
>going into my fourth year in EE
Just got my first internship. This shit is ez! All you gotta do is lie on your resume

>> No.10075994

If you are in college studying engineering, get out right now and switch to literally any other subject. I don't care if you're a freshman or a fifth year student about to graduate: switch right fucking now and don't look back. Engineering is the absolute worst thing you can study if you care at all about your physical, mental, or financial wellbeing. You can still save yourself as long as you're still in school.

>> No.10076016

>>10075994
Nope, need that cash

>> No.10076027

>>10076016
You are going to be making much less than a business grad, and less than half of a CS grad. You would literally make more money as a school teacher.

>> No.10076031

>>10076027
1) I hate programming
2) Power systems engineer are always in demand
3) Very stable market even during economic depression
4) Business grads need MBAs to make good money, and connections that I don't have. $65k fresh out of college with a BEE is not how much a teacher makes. 2-3X as much

>> No.10076035

>>10076031
You need connections to work in engineering too and you end up working under business grads anyway

>> No.10076037

>>10075994
Yeah, if you're in your last two years of study you should totally shell out another $40k in loans as opposed to just finishing your degree lmao.

>> No.10076039

>>10076035
Yeah, I have engineering connections.

>> No.10076040

>>10076037
I tried to warn you.

>> No.10076043

>>10075880
whatd you lie about?

>> No.10076047

>>10072760
Why do you guys all say this? I go to job fairs and find tons of employers looking to hire recent grads, Ive gotten an internship for an oil company this past summer, there are co op opportunities, etc you guys sound like total pussies

>t. ChemE jr

>> No.10076054

>>10076047
Because they're posting on /sci/ and have zero communication skills

>> No.10076063

>>10076047
Exxon? I'd suck dick for their co-op. They didn't want me though. Too low GPA I guess. 40 fucking dollars an hour. I got a co-op somewhere else that's still decent, nice community and 25/hr

>> No.10076065

man i wanna die

>> No.10076073

>>10076065
Suck it up faggot we all need money

>> No.10076086

>>10076065
All the other naive college students in this thread will end up like you soon enough. Give it time.

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>>10071463
What should I study if I want to get into robotics?

>> No.10076096

>>10076094
CompE or CS

>> No.10076110

>>10076094
AE and focus on controls
ME and focus on controls
EE and focus on controls
CE and focus on controls
CS and add in coursework for dynamics/controls

>> No.10076121

>>10076094
Get a PhD. See you after 10 years of higher education.

>> No.10076149

>>10076094
EE/CpE/CS.

>> No.10076154

>>10074476
>although impressive
>do not meet the minimum qualifications
lmao what

>bennies
oh, that's why they didn't hire you.

>> No.10076159

>>10071751
if you have a job, you aren't paying $20k a year on healthcare. mine is $60-100 per pay period, or something on that level. granted, i have a THREE-THOUSAND DOLLAR deductible, but still, even if I maxed out my deductible, it's not 20k

>> No.10076161

>>10076154
I meant more in the sense that I didn't get the GI Bill so I wasn't able to go get a degree in something else. I have a 3.8 GPA from UC Berkeley EECS but no real experience and getting no calls back

>> No.10076168

>>10076161
My point was that you talk like a fucking child.

>> No.10076171

2=x|*x
2=4
prove me wrong

>> No.10076175

>>10076168
do you really think I'm using slang on my job applications?

>> No.10076243

>>10076161
I truly have no hope with my 2.7 from no name state tech.

>> No.10076250

>>10076243
>>10076243
the guy you're replying to is lying about his GPA/school or has something not good on his record

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>>10076250
Just like how this anon was lying too, right? And how every other anon who can't find a job is also lying?

>> No.10076282

>>10076263
>No work experience
It's over for you

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>>10076282

>> No.10076304

>>10076263
I think part of the problem with a resume like this is a lot of his experience seems to be more in computing but he has a MechE degree. Lots of HR systems eliminate applicants who aren't computer science/engineering for computing jobs and mechE positions might not like how his focus seems to be computers

>> No.10076310

Daily reminder if you're a US citizen with over a 3.0 GPA to look at joining the Air National Guard in a job that gives a clearance. Many defense contractors will be willing to overlook your lack of experience if you're bringing an already adjudicated clearance with you.

>> No.10076320

>>10076282
>>10076310
>your lack of experience
Literally no other major expects you to have multiple years of experience before you graduate. Why do engicucks put up with this much bullshit for such shit compensation?

>> No.10076321

>>10076320
Generally speaking yes they do. If you graduate with an economics degree without an internship you're not gonna have a good time and that's generally true of every other major

>> No.10076353

>>10076263
Why would you list a high school award from 6 years ago as the second thing on your resume?

>> No.10076364

>>10076353
a lot of the stuff on there isn't nearly as impressive as it may seem on a first read

>> No.10076400

>>10076364
I think it mostly sounds pretty cool but I just question putting awards and conferences at the start. I'd consider it filler to put at the end.

>> No.10076401

>>10076320
What majors can you get a job with no experience beforehand (multiple years)? English majors being hired as Starbucks barista don't count.

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>tfw using 8-year old software because I'm too lazy to work with units
>tfw it just werks

>> No.10076445

>>10076086
I fucking double this dude. Already regretted 1000 times going into engi.

>> No.10076454

>>10076043
I wrote up bullshit personal projects on ny github. Then i fudged the years for my volunteer experience and i got my roommates to act as my references.

>> No.10076457

>>10076063
Whats you GPA?

>> No.10076459

>>10076454
what do you mean? did you write bogus, non-working code, put it on your github saying it does something cool, and then apply to things assuming (probably correctly) that nobody would actually read it?

>> No.10076477

>>10076459
The only code i have on my github are my labs and school projects. I made up the documentation process for an home automation project and added a picture of my arduino circuit. I found a random circuit online and constructed that

>> No.10076486
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why are some people "passionate" about engineering or math/physics itself? i'm doing it to get a career and i want to prove to myself that i'm not a brainlet

>> No.10076503

>>10074547
I cried

>> No.10076527

>>10076486
Got to be passionate about something. I have never seen someone successful not passionate to their craft. I think one of the biggest issues with this board and STEM in general are the people who see the paycheck as the main goal rather than a bonus but then again I am a bit eccentric and retarded.

>> No.10076530

Just completed a bachelors degree in general studies because i didn't know what i wanted to to do. Now i know that i want to pursue mechanical engineering and will be attending a state school for my bachelors. Should i go to grad school after? Am i fucked because its a mediocre state school without a co-op program? What if i get a 4.0 GPA? Any input is appreciated.

>> No.10076532

>>10076530
You mean an associates in GS? I personally see little point to college unless at least going for a Masters. That is me though. Good luck.

>> No.10076534

>>10076486
You're either going to drop out before taking any real engineering courses or you'll kill yourself after five years of working.

>> No.10076543

>>10076530
Crush your BS at mediocre state and transfer to something prestigious for your masters. Get internships, be a researchers bitch as long as it gets your name on something published.

>> No.10076556

You guys are using the shit out of your campuses machine shop, right? Never again will you be allowed to just fuck around and make whatever you want on millions of dollars worth of CNC equipment. I’m honestly thinking about signing up for a class at the local college just to get shop privileges again.

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>>10076556
This.

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>>10076527
>Got to be passionate about something
yeah, i'll just get paid to watch anime, shitpost, masturbate, and do drugs

>> No.10076562

>>10076543
Cool, sounds like plan. Thanks for the concrete advice

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>>10076556
I hate going into mine because they are all really rude and don't teach you shit but get mad at you fucking up something they didn't explain properly.

Really soured an entire section of engineering for me

>> No.10076567

>>10076486
I wasn't passionate for it and barely put in any effort beyond my classes. I got a good GPA but had literally nothing else going for me. I'm unemployed months after graduation

>> No.10076569

>>10076561
>>10076567
Tragically comedic.

>> No.10076580

>>10076486
Engineering is a means to an end. Once I’m done milking my current job for XP and skill modifiers I fully intend to buy a couple acres and just do my own thing. Grow bespoke produce for farm-to-table restaurants in the summer, do light engineering freelance and fabrication in the winter. Maybe do AirBnB on top of that. Rat race fucking sucks no matter where you are.

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>>10076569
>just do what you're passionate about
>i love physics!

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>>10076582
people fuck with me about not working but the reality is that I am not paid for the work I do. I do plenty of work and my work is very valuable, and they pay other people to try to do the work I do, and they keep paying them for it and not paying me despite those other people's inferior quality of work being demonstrated over and over and over and over and over...

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>>10076582
I am taking a screen shot so worse case I can succeed for both of us.

>> No.10076616

>>10076263
Why isn't your education listed first? It should go Education -> Certificates -> Work Experience -> Awards

>> No.10076623

>>10076530
>doing two bachelors
jesus thats rough, normally the advice is to move forward but in your situation I guess thats best. You could try to work as a technician, do they hire people off the street?

>> No.10076637

>>10076623
sorry i meant associates in general studies.

>> No.10076677

>>10076596
You have severe untreated schizophrenia. Get professional help.

>> No.10076697

>>10076677
I don't have the main symptoms of that disease, likely you work for my enemy who tells that lie to stave off the day when I destroy my enemy and sell her people to their own enemies. Think about: if you knew you were going to get sold to some barbarian torturer the moment people stopped entertaining a hypothesis of my mental incompetence, wouldn't you keep saying it until I cut your tongue out? I think you would.

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>>10076704

>> No.10076713

>>10075994
>not adapting to the constant sleep deprivation and anxiety

>> No.10076758

>>10076697
>>10076704
>>10076709
Lol okay schizo.

>> No.10076771

>>10076713
I too enjoy being cuckolded.

>> No.10076786

I've completed my education in architectural engineering. i'm looking into fringe stuff like riveting because it's useful. is there anything else that's not taught that I should look in2? frankly i'm bored

>> No.10076796
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i keep getting stuck with professors who can't teach worth anything and getting stuck with TAs who grade way harsher than other TAs

i don't eat i don't sleep i drank literally 100 oz of coffee yesterday and i'm still probably going to drop a class because i can't let my gpa go below 3.0

>> No.10076798

>>10076796
Reminder that engineering lets you study like a doctor to get paid less than a nurse.

>> No.10076801

>>10076771
Everybody gets cucked. its part of the elite's plan to turn us all into overworked endentured servitudes who live in cramped favelas and we use gay apps to share bicycles and take public transportation everywhere

The only way to afford a comfy life in the suburbs is to sacrifice your youth and try to somehow find a way to get a job despite companies almost refusing to hire you unless youre a minority or woman

>> No.10076802

>>10076798
doctors have a stressful job in addition to stressful college

engineers get easy job after stressful college. engineers get paid more than nurses unless youre some retard who lives in a downtown metropolis like seattle or LA, where its impossible to save any money since youre taxed to death

>> No.10076857

>>10076801
It’s as if the (((elites))) has a plan to stop the normal majority of this country from gaining stability, settling down, and having children.

Of course, I wonder what (((their))) motive could be for something like that...

>> No.10076866

>>10076801
>>10076857
Alternatively
>study software
>get a laid back $110k/year job straight out of school without really trying
Engineers are just too narcissistic to admit they're underpaid and demand a change.

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10076938

You know what? Fuck you faggots. I expected a comfy thread to talk about our fields and interests. I come here to escape the rat race not be constantly reminded of it.

>> No.10077106

>>10076938
it's important to remind people the reality we live in. because it's suppressed anywhere but 4chan. if you want some lala land update feed go to reddit or facebook.

>> No.10077145

How the fuck do I get a funded PhD in Mechanical Engineering? Do I need to go back to undergrad and get a 3.9+ GPA or something?

>>10076938
The rat race is eternal. It is the whole point of life itself. Remember that.

>> No.10077146

>>10076866
yeah you posted this bs before we all saw it
go ask /g/ how their software career is going if they can shut up about women and minorities stealing their jobs long enough to talk to you

>> No.10077149

>>10075994
Can I pursue a career in Medicine after 30?

>> No.10077156

>>10071463
Shifting out of ChemE
Still choosing between becoming a chad BS Mathematics or virgin BS Computer Science though

>> No.10077288

>>10077145
You network. At certain point your GPA is irrelevant, be it 2.8, 3.2 or 3.9+.

>> No.10077305

>>10077288
Well I don't have a network. I'm international.
I feel so fucked. Do I have to do undergrad again and get good grades this time to get a funded PhD?

>> No.10077315

>>10077305
You create a network if you dont have. You need to get out of your comfort zone, you will ruffle your own and other peoples feathers because being social may require effort if you arent used to it.
Lets say you are interested in some field of study for your PhD. What are the steps that can get you there? Maybe some company will be interested to pay for your PhD as an investment while you work for them? Maybe there are PhD scholarships that are avaliable for application? Maybe your masters thesis professor has some connections that can point you in the right direction? For some of us this is the hardest thing to do and understand but the reality is that in order to get anywhere you have to talk to people (I am not counting the outliers).

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I'm in my second year at IEM (middle of my undergrad if I understand yank terminology correctly) and its taking all of my spare time. I can afford 1 or 2 free evenings per week.
I actually enjoy this but I'm afraid that I will end up alone and boring as the years go by, I do not meet new people and the only hobbies I have right now are related to my field.

>> No.10077385

>>10077368
Dont be comfortable with your hobbies then, try something new even if you suck at it.

>> No.10077533
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This shitty first attempt resume got me a job as a commercial HVAC engineer/consultant (hospitals, warehouses, etc.).

>$52k w/ some benefits

>> No.10077568

>>10077533
>that's a lie lol
Nigger

>> No.10077571

>>10077568
Also,
>skills
>computer

>> No.10077573

>>10077533
Why even have objective if it's not something that's obvious by sending your application in?

>> No.10077590

>>10077533
>skills: MS Office

>> No.10077591

>>10077533
>thats a lie lol
Why do I even fucking bother with studying

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>>10077533
>FORTRAN
>1995+X

>> No.10077605

>>10072767
>Janitors don't work as hard as enigneers
idiot

>> No.10077607

>>10073102
do an engineering undergrad. Maybe industrial engineering. Save management for until you have experience and can prove yourself as a leader, then go and do an MBA or engineering management MS.

>> No.10077615

>>10075401
as a major?

>> No.10077620

>>10074764
no, not that dumb. Consider Georgia tech's online MS in CS as well as bootcamps.

>> No.10077626

>>10076401
CS as software engineer. Math major as accountant/actuary.

>> No.10077634

>>10077620
I looked at the online MS in CS but it seemed like they wanted people who are working and I'm not sure I would get in

>> No.10077645

Is it best to just apply for engineering technician positions and work your way up if the big boy entry level engineering jobs aren't calling back/you don't have the necessary 10+ years with C++?
I'm losing hope bois

>> No.10077651

>>10077634
I think they only look at that if you don't have these preferred qualifications: https://www.omscs.gatech.edu/explore/faq/admissions
If you meet these, I think it's guaranteed admission.

>> No.10077655

>>10077645
are you a graduate? You might not even get technician qualifications since you're overqualified.

>>10077634
>"If I meet the admission criteria, am I automatically admitted?

>Applicants will be conditionally admitted into the degree program and must pass their first two OMS CS foundational courses with a grade of B or better to be fully admitted. Students do not need to take these foundational courses before registering for elective courses, however we recommend students take at least one foundational course per semester in which they are enrolled until they are fully admitted to Georgia Tech"

So as long as you aren't a brainet, it's guaranteed with the requirements in >>10077651's post. Good luck man.

>> No.10077680

>>10077595
From when I used an ancient statistics program for research i accidentally went into but thats a story for another day

>> No.10077682

>>10077655
Huh, I wonder why they make you do letters of rec and essays and whatnot then

>> No.10077689

>>10077655
Yeah, I graduated ~10 months ago
I have no experience or contacts though, so I might be underqualified for even the lowest engineering jobs... Is there anywhere to go from here?

>> No.10077697

>>10077682
it says
>Please note: Applicants who meet the minimum requirements are not guaranteed admission.

so I'm not sure that's being read correctly

>> No.10077710

>>10077697
their admissions rate is like 85%

>> No.10077797

the worst part about being unemployed after graduation is I feel as though I'm losing my mental acuity and will just blow interviews

>> No.10077832

>>10077797
same i haven't really done anything in like 5 months
I hope they understand

>> No.10077870

>>10071463
I graduated in 2014 with a degree in mechanical engineering. Shit grades. I dont think I even had 3.0 gpa. I interviewed at one place for a job I was over qualified for. I was hired as a contractor working as a drafter for a semiconductor company. I made $19/hr. I did this until my contract ran out 18 months later. Then they hired me as a mechanical engineer. Now I'm making 50k plus 10% bonus, good benefits.

There's a dose of reality for y'all. Take whatever you want from it.

>> No.10077873

>>10077870
>just be lucky lmao

>> No.10077875

>>10077870
Also: I had no internships or experience after graduating.

>> No.10077897

>>10077315
I have social anxiety and a variety of other mental disorders. Nothing to really fuck my life but enough to firmly keep me in the underachiever/average/mediocre zone. I don't know how to deal with this and nobody else seems to know either. I am almost desperate enough to resort to drugs but I'm too afraid of fucking myself up irreversibly.

>> No.10077960

>>10075994
What other degrees and fields of study do you recommend?

>> No.10077975

Got my BSEE 5 months ago. Currently interviewing at an Indian coding "consultancy" (read outsourcing firm). Figure it can't hurt to get some experience to put on a resume

>> No.10078184

Do people even get jobs anymore?

>> No.10078252

>>10077368
You could check out clubs and teams at your school. Maybe you'll find something you enjoy or find a project related to your major you can work on with other people with.

>> No.10078264

>>10078184
crappy ones mostly.

>> No.10078312

>>10076477
Fucking lol!

>> No.10078326

>>10078184
Yes. Usually code monkey jobs tho.

>> No.10078384

>>10078184
I just had a really positive interview with Broadcom, and got an offer from Boeing, so it can be done.

>> No.10078496

>>10078184
Nope, engineering graduates have a 100% unemployment rate, hate to break it to you bud

>> No.10078528

>>10077797
This.

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>>10077689
Military lmao

>> No.10078775

>>10073896
If you do circuit design you can avoid a lot of the programming. Only bad EEs get code monkey jobs IMO

>> No.10078783

>>10078496
Didn't someone work out in a previous thread using the number of fresh graduates and entry level job openings that it's actually 90%?

>> No.10078788

>>10078783
sounds like complete bs
most people don't go into jobs that explicitly say "entry level", especially when they had an internship before hand

There's really no way to know because the internal positions of each company isn't very public, nor is it standardized.

>> No.10078851

>>10071463
highschool fag here, applying to uni, am I fucking retarded for applying materials/biotech over mech eng? and does that change with grad school?

>> No.10078853

>>10074536
>looking for jobs without a master's at the very least
ecks dee

>> No.10078859

>>10078851
You are only as retarded as you let yourself be. Basically what I mean is that people talk a lot about "x degree is a meme because its not muh ideal degree" if you do well in undergrad you can land a really good internship at a company. If you prove you're not a lazy retard during your internship youre pretty much golden. Just learn as much about the industry you want to be in as possible and try to tailor your undergrad career towards that. Companies always ask about why you want to do their dumb job and it's easy to convince them that you are serious about being in their industry if you have the resume to prove it. The pharma industry is big and isn't going anywhere that's a good area to look into. Make some connections and don't be afraid to ask people for favors. If people know you aren't an idiot they will see it as you having ambition and wanting to succeed. Apply for jobs months before you finish any degree and apply for shit loads of them.

>> No.10078863

>>10078859
thanks, now I just have to get into a non-shit tier uni and I'm golden

>> No.10078882

>>10078863
University doesn't matter in undergrad unless you go to a top 10. Learned this the hard way.

>> No.10078911

>>10078882
would it be safer to get transfer credits from a CC in that case to get my general ed stuff out of the way?

>> No.10079506

>>10078863
Make absolutely sure that you get an internship though, otherwise you won't be able to get a job regardless of where you went or how high your gpa is
Learned that the hard way

>> No.10079821

ChemE here. Why is Aspen such a piece of trash?

>> No.10079977

>>10078851
Bio anything is exceedingly competitive. You are basically picking Nightmare Mode in terms of how difficult it’s going to be in order to succeed, both in and out of school. You pretty much need a masters just to be at parity with your peers.

>> No.10079992

>>10079506
don's say that. some people just can't get internships because not everyone is in a good city for that, that really just isn't always true

>> No.10080003

>>10079992
that's not related to what he said though and what he said is true - if you can't get an internship your post-BS job prospects are significantly harmed. if you're not willing to relocate your job prospects are further damaged

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>> No.10080410

>>10079992
I agree that it shouldn't have been worded as if it were 100% true, but it definitely can make the job search substantially harder if one doesn't have an internship/co-op or any prior engineering experience
This issue can be even further magnified if one is tied down to just one area, like the other anon said

>> No.10080432

>>10072780
EE think they're big shit exclusively because they have absolutely no knowledge of other engineering disciplines, as a result, they think that electromagnetism is the hardest and most difficult class in all of undergrad, and that they invented complex numbers.

I'm not exaggerating in one bit.

>> No.10080451

I’m strongly considering applying for a Master of Civil Engineering program focusing on Transportation Engineering (not structures or concrete or anything). I don’t have an engineering undergrad. Is this a bad idea?

>> No.10080456

>>10076094
I work in robotics. Overall I recommend computer science, but this all depends on what you want to do also.

>>10075009
I can only speak for academia, and even then it depends on the group you are in and what the PI expects. I enjoy my research though since I find it interesting, started the project myself, and have lots of flexibility with how I take it.

>> No.10080462

4 months still no job. I won't give up. Especially since I have all this money from crypto.

>> No.10080469

Can someone post the image of the brainlet who thought 11 was a double line

>> No.10080503

just dropping by to say AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.10080505

>>10076110
in that order?

>> No.10080529

>>10080505
Those are literally are your options, what do you want to have the strongest knowledge of? Mechanical? ME or AE. Electrical? EE or CE? Programming? CS.

Fuck man. KYS

>> No.10080569

>>10077533
Your resume is actually terrible.

>> No.10080574

>>10080451
Civil engineering isn't that hard but their egos seem to be the highest of all the engineers.

>> No.10080675

>>10080432
It's become we did little one.

>> No.10080975

MechE here.
Am I fucked for life if I got a 2.76 GPA?

>>10077533
Should I lie like this?

>> No.10081009

>>10080432
EE is the most diverse branch, don't even bother replying, brainlet, you know I'm right.

>> No.10081044

>>10081009
Not really.

EE has like three different branches

Low and High frequency engineering
Automation

>> No.10081056

Thinking about to study ME or EE.

So what would happen to all the microelectronics engineers when nano becomes the new hotness?

>> No.10081064

How do you keep your calculations organized?

>> No.10081066

>>10080574
Nah, EEs are worse with the "hardest engineering degree" thing.

>> No.10081078

Civil engineers are chilling people who are happy getting stuff done.

>> No.10081084

>>10072652
>>10072658
Got a D in calc 2 first time I took it. Retook it that summer. Graduating this semester with a 3.5 gpa, a job, and like 5 other offer.

>> No.10081141

Talking about civil engineering

>study civil engineering
>focus on building physics
>everyone in my dumb family thinks I'm now physicist
>they talk about me as "the physicist"
>despite the only thing I'm basically doing is to decide the thickness of the building isolation.

>> No.10081144

>>10080569
Didn't i say this was a shitty first attempt? Still got the job tho NEET and due for a promotion soon

>> No.10081225

>>10078911
not safer (cc credit transfer is a horrible swap of bureaucracy), but certainly cheaper. There is also the networking cost of only having half the time (2 yrs) to network and use school resources.

>> No.10081231

>>10078859
what about doing CS undergrad to go into systems biology / genetics for med school?

>> No.10081350

How do I get started with FEA? I want to learn it just for hobby

>> No.10081352

>>10081141
You're the first guy in the family to be in a university?

>> No.10081360

>>10081352
Yes

>> No.10081362

>>10081360
Makes sense. They're probably proud of you

>> No.10081390

EE with no EE friends here. What are some desirable companies to work at, and why? Especially startups if you know of any.

>> No.10081408

>>10081009
Is this bait? All other branches of engineering are subsets of mechanical engineering, including EE.

>> No.10081544

>>10080975
MechE here with a 2.78 GPA
yes

>> No.10081567

>>10080975
>>10081544
At my uni you can't get into pro school as an me or EE if you don't have above a 2.8 GPA

>> No.10081727

>>10081350
Download solidworks and do the simulation tutorials

>> No.10082319

>>10081739
kys if that is real. Leave the dude alone, also he said he wears dark black sunglasses. Doesn't match here

>> No.10082550

>>10081144
You claim to have gotten that job a week ago. Theres no way you're "due for a promotion" nigger. stop larping.

>> No.10082653

Question for EE: Is it generally better to use the cursors on an oscilloscope to measure the wave, or to let the scope do the measurements automatically?

>> No.10082678

>>10082653
use the cursors, trust me
they'll be infinitely more valuable than counting ticks

even if the scope can automatically give measurements, the cursors work much better in my experience, and the error it has is negligible

do NOT try to count ticks, you'll fuck up

>> No.10082681

>>10082678
What do you mean by ticks? The actual lines on the screen?

>> No.10082684

>>10082681
yeah i mean using the step size and the lines on the axes to count the phase shift
the cursors are more accurate than your counting will ever be

as far as Vpeak and other such measurements go though, you're fine using the measured value so long as it's a normal curve and doesn't have odd function components

i'm a little drunk right now so forgive me for explaining like shit

>> No.10082698
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10082698

If my job title is controls engineer but I work in HVAC, am I doomed to stay in HVAC for the rest of my career? Can I get an aerospace job in a few years?

>> No.10082701

>>10082698
no, you aren't doomed