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>IQ is largely (if not almost completely) genetics based
>Any two populations will differ in genetic makeup and allele frequency
Why is it so hard for people to accept that different races will have different average IQs? I'm not even racist (in fact I am part black) but even a basic understanding of genetics should make someone come to the above conclusion.

>> No.10040014

>>10040002
>Why is it so hard for people to accept that different races will have different average IQs?
Ideological brainwashing.

>> No.10040017

Maybe stop acting like such a whitey and realize that spitting out "facts" is pointless. If you know what needs to be done, do whatever it takes to get it done. Don't just whine about it.

>> No.10040046

>>10040002
Indoctrination and lack of curiosity

>> No.10040050

>>10040017
What if what needs to be done is tell people the facts?

>> No.10040056
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>>10040002
People probably don't want to be remembered how dumb they really are ?
Also algeria has one of the highest genetical pool in all of africa. Not talking about la creatura or some shit but you will find arabs 80% (shitskin retard) and kabyles 20% (literally 100% / mediteranean type)

While Iq does represent an AVERAGE, you shouldn't base your iq belief off of entire countries when encountering a person. Rather using genetics. Even though, deviations occur on every race, simply with a mean starting left far more for some than others.(ie avg are dumber so more intelligent people need higher deviation, hence rarest)
>>10040017
This also.

>> No.10040058

>>10040002
>I'm not even racist (in fact I am part black)
I mean, look at your thread and pay particular attention to this sentence.

>> No.10040068

>>10040050
I dont think this will work,
Look at the population distribution for logical thinking. And iq, these 2 being correlated.
Why are sweedish so antismetic (oyvey.6bs) ? Because the logical interpretation of conversation between people are more predominant.

Let dumb ppl genes be washed away desu. Focus on self improvement

>> No.10040072

>>10040056
I agree. Doesn’t change that the difference average outcomes of different groups can be attributed mainly to genetics making Critical Theory and most of sociology obsolete. Hundreds of billions of dollars trying to get women and blacks on par with white men are being wasted

>> No.10040086
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>>10040072
Tbh, shit's fucked up but who started all this degenerate shit anon ? Womens don't need to be informed but simply locked like they did so well during anciant times.

>> No.10040099

>>10040002

>>IQ is largely (if not almost completely) genetics based
>>Any two populations will differ in genetic makeup and allele frequency

Doesn't seem like that would tell you much about what the difference in average IQ would be if environmental circumstances were completely equal.

At this point everyone knows and accepts blacks have a lower average IQ. The numbers are right there in front of your face. The question is how much of that is genetic and how much is environmental.

>> No.10040132

>>10040002
>basic understanding
leading behavioural geneticist Robert Plomin say sthat causes of individual differences are not necessarily the same as cause of group differences and he gives several examples where traits such as height differences between individuals are genetically caused but group differences are often not genetic (e.g. differences in height between people now and in 1900).

>> No.10040147

>>10040132
That's true, but environmental conditions between today and the year 1900 were drastic. Are environmental conditions between modern day blacks and whites as drastic? I find hard to believe.

>> No.10040152

>>10040132
>>10040147
And I'm talking about americans only obviously. It's pretty clear that the IQ of africans is depressed due to malnutrition and disease.

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>>10040002
oh wow, different groups of people have different average intelligence!

...so what effect does this actually have on the world, besides making you feel better about yourself because you have something in common with people who are actually smart?

>> No.10040215

>>10040014

>> No.10040229

>>10040147
>Are environmental conditions between modern day blacks and whites as drastic?
Yes.

>> No.10040231

>>10040099
Considering almost all variance in intelligence is linked to genetics, try to guess

>> No.10040232

>>10040147
I wouldn't emphasise drasticness since height has been rising continuously more or less.

>>10040152
I'm not sure you can say malnutrition is the only cause at all?
Do we know all the environmental factors that influence IQ? Do we know the covariance they effect? I don't thinnk we know enough on the area.

>> No.10040233

>>10040188
>what effect does it have on the world
Huge ones since it means nearly half of humanity doesn’t have an IQ high enough to function in modern society and explains most of the crime and economic differences between people.

>> No.10040242

>>10040229
Even rich adopted blacks have lower IQs

>> No.10040248

>>10040002
>>IQ is largely (if not almost completely) genetics based

Research has suggested that it's genetic in the same way your height is genetic.

For example, if both of your parents have a tall gene, then you will probably grow up to be tall. However, various environmental factors (such as your nutrition) can prevent you from reaching your maximum potential height. The same concept seems to apply to IQ.

>> No.10040250

>>10040233
cool, how should we make sure we include you in that lower half?

>> No.10040251

So we can either invent some unproven environmental cause or we can use Known science pointing to it being genetic.
The only reason American blacks even have an IQ above the 70s range is because of the white genes mixed in with them. Fact, the more white or Asian a black person is (even if they are perceived as black) the higher their intellect.
Fact, black children develop faster than children of other races. Slower development time is linked with more intelligence. I saw this as a black but we are on average dumb as shit. Eugenics is the only answer.

>> No.10040252

>>10040233
>it means nearly half of humanity doesn’t have an IQ high enough to function in modern society and explains most of the crime and economic differences between people.
lol, no.

>> No.10040254

>>10040248
Yes but this is only true for those malnourished. Most blacks living in rich countries are not and are in fact taller on average compared to whites.

>> No.10040255

>>10040233
so no effect at all then, nice. Because the statement you just made is true regardless of whether or not every race has the exact same average IQ

>> No.10040256

>>10040250
By killing everyone dumber than me. Get to it

>> No.10040257

>>10040242
If only we could do a control study where there wasn't racism in society.

>> No.10040258

>>10040056
>People probably don't want to be remembered how dumb they really are?
>dont want to be remembered how dumb
>remembered how dumb
>remembered
>dumb
wut

>> No.10040259

>>10040256
won't take long!

>> No.10040260

>>10040255
Except not. If every race had the same iq, blacks would do as well as Asians at school.

>> No.10040265

>>10040257
If only you could prove blacks face more racism than other races. What about blacks in black countries or people that look black but have white genes and are smarter?

>> No.10040267

>>10040258
Epic fail xd

>> No.10040268

>>10040259
I see you killed your self then

>> No.10040270

>>10040265
>people that look black but have white genes and are smarter?
Anon I...

>> No.10040277

>>10040260
>regardless of whether or not
pls tell me you are just pretending to be retarded

>>10040268
I'm right here, brah

>> No.10040280

>>10040002
>in fact i am part black
Brainlet confirmed

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>>10040265
>people that look black but have white genes

>> No.10040288

>>10040248
>>10040231

see >>10040132


>>10040251
but there is no science on it at the moment pointing to anything in the case of race. only speculation.

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>>10040265
>race denial
but what about this green that has blue genes in it?

>> No.10040329

>>10040254

Education also plays a role in IQ:
https://psychcentral.com/news/2018/06/24/study-shows-education-boosts-iq/136418.html

Many blacks in America live in ghettoes where they are forced to attend crappy and underfunded schools.

And African countries barely have any schools at all

This study finds that the privileged and elite African children who attend high-quality schools have higher IQ's than the rest of Africa

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609001275

>> No.10040330

>>10040322
Looks blue to me, not green. Killed your point right there.

>> No.10040334

>>10040330
No its obviously green, dont you see those greenish features?

>> No.10040342

>>10040002
How do you explain such uniformity in the U.S.? It could be a relatively even mixture of races throughout, but I'm more inclined to believe the overall culture and education has contributed some to the eveness. Though, I suppose that varies by state as well. I would say at least 30% is dependant on upbringing and education

>> No.10040386

>>10040002
Jewish brainwashing and the threat of losing your job and being targeted for violence by agents of ZOG(Antifa and the media), who will brutally target and destroy anyone who even tries to discuss race in a non-idealological scientific way.

Even with all of that, most people are still aware of race. They just care for their own personal financial and physical safety and aren’t willing to risk it when the system is currently cracking down hard on anyone who doesn’t tow the party line.

>> No.10040418

>>10040002
>Why is it so hard for people to accept that different races will have different average IQs?
if it was really accepted by science that there is one race superior for all intelectual tasks then corporations would have taken advantage of it. They have no moral problems with far more sinister stuff (like washing their hands after poisoning billions of innocent civilians) if they thought there was any economic benifit of trillion of workers of an exact race they would have made it happen.

Keep in mind this would be very noticeable, and that the real races are not those that nazis want you to believe. In fact, most self aclaimed "nazis" are a mixture of a lot of stuff that usually include black indian an mulato

>> No.10040441 [DELETED] 

>>10040002

Racial IQ isn't based on genetics, its largely based on environmental conditions.

Europe had a large advance in development and technology because of all the competition. Technologies like the internet weren't made for you to shitpost on but were made as tools against other countries in originality.

In Africa the environmental conditions are such to where its hard to get long term civilization beyond city states there due to the fact a lot of it is desert, savannah, and jungle. In recent times there is growth and you see africans in african cities getting jobs as engineers but this is in the gated cities which absorb the growth compared to the countryside.

Go back to /v/ with your stealth racist thread

>> No.10040444

>>10040418
This isn’t true because corporations don’t need as many intelligent individuals as they do worker drones. Whites are the only group historically to effectively nationalize and socialize labor for the benefit of all classes within the nation, corporations have every incentive to make sure this never happens again by importing the entire third world into formerly white nations.

You can’t effectively unionize labor when none of the brown people you work with even speak the same language.

>> No.10040450

>>10040441
>In Africa the environmental conditions are such to where its hard to get long term civilization beyond city states there due to the fact a lot of it is desert, savannah

Better explain that to the Boers.

>> No.10040461

We have this thread every day.

>> No.10040488 [DELETED] 

>>10040450

>people from a civilization that existed for hundreds of years with superior technology can survive in a country with lots of coasts.

Ya, Africa had civilizations on its coasts like ethopia. The strongest nations in the world are coastal based usually

>> No.10040497

>>10040461
even for all the memes we got 2016 just wasn't worth it

>> No.10040501

>>10040068
but dumb people genes aren't being washed away, they are growing faster and faster and migrating to places with smart people genes.

>> No.10040503

>>10040488
What are you talking about? The largest and most important Ethiopian cities are and were no where near the coasts. Research the Ethiopians through history and you will find they did most of their stuff far inland. Same as Boers. Vast majority of Boers were not on the coasts, but it seems you have no concept of geography.

>> No.10040716

>>10040002
I think it's obvious, people are afraid of what the political outcome of this information will be.

>> No.10040728 [DELETED] 

>>10040002
There would be a hysterical meltdown in the media and major western metro areas with high minority populations. Bullying in schools, workplaces, unbelievable riots and ressentiment. It would destroy the fabric of civilized human social organization at this point. In fact the Anglo-Jewish elites may be doing us a favor in the short term by staving off the inevitable. People simply cannot accept that there are impassible differences between human types and that these types really shouldn’t be freely intermixing or propping each other’s populations up. Can you imagine what would happen in NYC if the entire academic establishment embraced HBD and genetic determinism overnight? Granted it needs to happen, we will go extinct if it doesn’t but its just so dangerous. Hard truths, even the one’s which benefit you, ought to be looked at with some terror (just as the Christfags do their Jew god).

>> No.10040776

>>10040329
> but it has been unclear whether this is because education boosts intelligence or because individuals who start off with higher IQ scores are likely to stay in school for longer

Very interesting article but the studies present d are still quite unclear

>> No.10040812

>>10040132
Informed post

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>>10040002
Compare that map to this one, showing where incest is common. Low IQ is a common effect of incest. So if you’re either black or live in the (mostly Islamic) incest belt, you tend to have a low IQ.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_prevalence_of_consanguinity.svg

>> No.10041084

>>10040002
No, IQ is not largely based on genes. It's largery based on education, neurological stimulation, environment etc. Even with bad genes you still can have intelligent individuals while you will never get anyone intelligent if you close a kid in a cage without any education or society.

Races will have different average IQ simply because of fundamental statistical errors. However these differences are insignificant compared to how literally every other factor changes the result. You could in theory remove all these factors in some unethical experiment but what's the point? It will never adequately represent real world where people from poorer countries or different cultures(that do not value success that much) will score much lower.

>> No.10041114

>>10040330
>>10040334
This is teal

>> No.10041129

>>10040461
We will keep getting them as long as there are stupid tabus in mainstream science. It literally the source for conspiracy theories and misunderstandings.

>> No.10041155

>>10041084
The countries are poor because their people have low IQs, not the other way around. China, Japan, Russia and Germany were in shambles in the 20th century and yet they’re doing much better.

To say that it’s due to racism isn’t a good argument either. Jews have been hugely discriminated against and yet they’re doing extremely well.

>> No.10041448

>>10041114
>This is teal
How dare you use that slur.
You blues are all the same.

>> No.10041569

>>10041155

Japan and Germany were rebuilt by the United States after WW2

Russia actually isn't really doing well

Both China and South Korea were one of the poorest countries of the 20th century, and they have since grown to become one of the world's largest economies.

Keep in mind that most of the current African countries have only existed for 5-6 decades. Nigeria, Rwanda, Ghana, South Africa, Angola, and Kenya are currently making similar economic strides that pulled China and South Korea out of poverty

>> No.10041616

>>10041569
>Japan and Germany were rebuilt by the United States after WW2
True, but African countries have received development aid as well and they have nothing to show for it.

>Russia actually isn't really doing well.
Not economically, but in terms of IQ they’re on the same level as Western countries.

>> No.10041640

>>10041569
>>10041616
Don't forget the wars that have been ongoing since their independence. Aid has mostly been going to resolve the conflicts.

That's what happens when you practice exploitative colonialism, then just pack up and abandon a whole continent. Billions of people with no leadership/government starving for resources. Most government's since independence have naturally been crimelords and warlords.

But yes, things are finally starting to die down. China is fully aware of this, and is investing in African industries.

>> No.10041768

>>10041640
The reason Africa is in so many wars and is in shambles is because of their low IQs.

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>>10040322
Optimized.