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10035684 No.10035684 [Reply] [Original]

Hey you stupid fucking mathematician cunts would it fucking kill you to write out a goddamn sentence, with actual fucking words, once in a while explaining what the fuck it even is that you just fucking did or what the fuck I'm supposed to actually do with your stupid fucking abstract mathematical objects? I know you have some sick fetish/obsession with trying to explain everything with just numbers and symbols and using the least amount of words possible because you were probably such a fucking socially awkward weirdo your whole life that now you need to try and prove you're better than anyone at all making your fucking ideas unnecessarily obtuse and inaccessible to anyone but your snide little mathematician friends, but the only reason we keep you on the payroll is to come up with tools for us to use to solve real problems. Sure we let you dick around with your insanely nonsensical 97 dimensional semicuspidal manifolds or your hyperbolic triangles without embedded eigenvalues or whatever the fuck it is you assholes are doing all day. But that's just to keep you little shits busy so you don't bother the rest of us with your fucking bullshit periodic approximations of irrational pseudo-rotations using pseudoholomorphic curves. Jesus Fucking Christ. All I'm asking for is ONE (maybe 2) sentences explaining what the fuck this shit even represents. You can blame it on me. Tell your math buddies I snuck it and wrote 'words' while you weren't looking. Just please, for the love of god, tell the rest of us what you are doing and what you want us to do.

>> No.10035688

>>10035684
holy shit. Mathcucks and obscurantists finally get BTFO. Based.

>> No.10035689
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10035689

Nice cope brainlet

>> No.10035691

>>10035689
found one. Please prove you have a life using no less than 20 variables and new symbols you have pulled out of your gaping anus. Thanks.

>> No.10035698

>>10035684
Welcome to mathematics without philosophy.

>> No.10035702

>>10035684
Please try not to take the Lord's name in vain.
Apart from that, I agree that mathematical notations are overused when explaining things to laymen.

>> No.10035709

>>10035698
>mathematics without philosophy
No such thing

>> No.10035728

>>10035709
Very true, which is why much of what is called mathematics isn't actually mathematics.

>> No.10035733

>>10035728
Do you have any examples?

>> No.10035739
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10035739

>>10035702
>Please try not to take the Lord's name in vain.
Not science or math

>> No.10035753

>>10035684
Mathfags have no refutation

>> No.10035762

>>10035684
>we keep you on the payroll
t. Josh, 17, from Ohio

>> No.10035768

Words are ambiguous and plebeian. There, you made me type some. Now begone, brainlet.

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10035840

I grabbed the 6th textbook in my documents folder and picked theorem 8.4 (your digits are 684). Literally TWO symbols and it tells what one of them means right in the statement. Maybe you're just dumb.

>> No.10035849

>>10035840
non math major here, please explain Aut(), GF(), field automorphisms and cyclic of order n

>> No.10035861

>>10035849
Aut is short for "automorphism", which generally speaking means a function which maps something to itself in an invertible way. GF is short for "Galois field", which means a finite collection of things in which you can add, multiply, subtract, and divide as you would with numbers. So GF(p^n) is the Galois field with p^n elements, and Aut(GF(p^n)) is the set of all field automorphisms of GF(p^n), meaning the set of all functions which re-arrange elements of GF(p^n) while respecting the four operations. The theorem is that this is cyclic, meaning that there's a single function f, such that every field automorphism is of the form f^k (i.e. apply the function f repeatedly, k times). The fact that it's order n means that after the nth time you apply f, you get back to where you started.

Notice this is Theorem 8.4, meaning this book had 8 chapters to explain all that shit to you.

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10035869

>>10035849
>please explain 200 years of theory in 5 minutes
You wanted words, there are your words. If you want to understand the meaning of the words, then get off your ass and go learn it. And, by the way, the definition of Aut() is literally right there in the sentence you clearly didn't even try to understand. See? Notation isn't the problem, your tiny brain is.

>> No.10035892

>>10035861
>>10035869
The point was that it's a little disingenuous to claim that the particular theorem you choose is clear because without any of the context it's just nonsense, the part it actually explains to you isn't helpful in the least to understanding it. Thank you for the explanation though.

>> No.10035906

>>10035892
Who is making this complaint? I can't possibly imagine someone who opens a textbook to page 300 in a subject they have no experience with, and complains it isn't clear because it uses words they don't know. This would be like running into a physics lecture and complaining that it's all garbage unless you know arcane terms like "energy" and "momentum" and "the strong force". This stuff is basic field theory and group theory. You can't get a bachelors degree in math (even from meme state uni in burgerland) without knowing what a "field automorphism" or a "cyclic group" is. If you're in a situation where you keep running into these terms and don't know them, something is wrong.

>> No.10035916

>>10035892
I didn't choose it. I grabbed it at "random" to show your complaints about too much notation are bullshit. Notation abuse in mathematics is very scarce and frowned upon. Not understanding the meaning of the words is a completely different thing and has nothing to do with notation. It's akin to showing up to a lecture in Russia and start complaining because they don't speak in English.

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10035920

is this a copypasta? I can't tell

>> No.10036037

>>10035684
>Just please, for the love of god, tell the rest of us what you are doing and what you want us to do.

Mathematicians are strictly concerned with quantifying attributes with a language. And before you ask, no that does not make any sense at all.