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Anonymous Thu Sep 27 07:19:58 2018 No.10032405 [Reply] [Original]

Sci, Is meditation a meme?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 07:26:01 2018 No.10032415 >Sci, Is meditation a meme? Why don't you try it and find out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 07:31:09 2018 No.10032423 >>10032415 Well, i tried — the feeling was pretty cool, but last time it wasn’t the same.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 07:52:02 2018 No.10032445 >>10032405 Science is a meme

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 07:54:35 2018 No.10032447 >>10032405 Yes, don't do it Waste of time

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 08:00:28 2018 No.10032456 File: 105 KB, 448x282, Rosary_Crystal_B_516f099c3cb7d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10032405 Not if you spend it in prayer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 08:01:21 2018 No.10032458 File: 261 KB, 682x390, hibiki-fun to be alive.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10032447 >enlightment >waste of time

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 08:03:39 2018 No.10032460 >>10032456 prayer is a form of meditation

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 08:16:07 2018 No.10032472 No, actually it has measurable effects on the brain (measurable through EEG's and shit) and has measurable effects on stress/anxiety and other mental issues and can actually be linked to reduced blood pressure and all those memes.

Anonymous Thu Sep 27 09:01:19 2018 No.10032541
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So a few months ago, I went into the mountains for a ten day Vipassana course where I meditated on average 10.5 hours a day. Here are my thoughts and experiences:

Pros:
+ Completely free accommodation, meals and instruction. Done on a donation basis so you don't have to pay a cent if you do it and think it's shit.

+ My focus improved drastically for a few weeks after the retreat. It's gone back to normal now, but that might be because I haven't been practicing regularly.

+ Generally, I've become a nicer dude. I've stopped eating meat, and I don't lose my shit as much.

+ I sleep a lot easier now.

Cons:
+ 10 days without talking to people is pretty much guaranteed to give you an emotional breakdown.

+ Meditation probably doesn't boost IQ.

+ My teachers say that if you want lasting benefit to come out of meditation, you should aim for at least two hours a day. That's hard to juggle with student life.

I think my biggest takeaway from the retreat is that "enlightenment" (I.E. Full liberation from pain and suffering) is possible. It sounds absurd, but from what I've experienced so far, I'm pretty confident it can happen to anyone provided they work for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 09:17:22 2018 No.10032558 It's fun

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 10:08:09 2018 No.10032616 >>10032541 >10 days without talking to people is pretty much guaranteed to give you an emotional breakdown what

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 11:39:54 2018 No.10032731 its literally just sitting still with your eyes closed and focusing on your breathing. how can that be a meme?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 11:58:00 2018 No.10032757 >>10032616 I had to take a vow of silence for the duration of the retreat and I couldn't bring any external stimuli. (No technology, books, writing material, etc.)

Anonymous Thu Sep 27 13:48:15 2018 No.10032913

>>10032405
If you're productive and you know what to do, it can be very beneficial to get you to think more clearly, and less negatively.
Think of it as a way to use the Socratic method with yourself. Say a negative thought comes in your head, or there is a problem in your life that you're trying to work out. If you take like ten minutes where you don't think about anything else, and ask yourself questions like:
>Why do you think like this?
>What is the next best alternative?
>Is there any other way you could think on this?

Other questions, in which you play "devil's advocate" with yourself, you might arrive to some personal solution on an emotion or problem that can be resolved for you.
Ultimately it's just a way for you to think about your way of thinking. When people tend to think about their thinking, they tend to think more clearly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 13:54:40 2018 No.10032929 >>10032913 Is this seriously what meditation is? Just working out problems in your head? I do that all the time to vary degrees of effectiveness and it sure as shit hasn't helped my depression

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 13:56:43 2018 No.10032931 >>10032405 >please bully me, nagatoro

Anonymous Thu Sep 27 13:58:56 2018 No.10032932

>>10032929
>I do that all the time to vary degrees of effectiveness and it sure as shit hasn't helped my depression
Chances are, you haven't devoted a decent chunk of your day where you ONLY think about these things. Chances are negative thoughts go throughout your head, and you're not even noticing them since you're paying attention to something else going on - so it drags your entire day down.

Meditation can help for depression, but keep in mind if your depression is very serious, then you'll probably need some other extra help.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:00:40 2018 No.10032935 File: 145 KB, 899x1333, Study.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10032405 Western men practicing eastern arts make me ill. The only thing you should be bowing your head into is your study. >:O

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:03:10 2018 No.10032938 File: 31 KB, 200x340, Damnit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10032541 >Monk Class. >Compatible with wizard class. Please get out. OUT. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:18:24 2018 No.10032967 >>10032932 Without turning my post in to a sob story I'll just concede that you're right on the money that my depression seems to be very serious and while mindfulness has helped set me on a better path, I need (and am seeking) outside help

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:26:04 2018 No.10032977 >>10032616 Same, I do this on a regular basis

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:32:29 2018 No.10032989 No, it isn't. Many martial arts like Judo employ meditation on a regular basis. >inb4 martial arts are a meme

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:39:24 2018 No.10033000 >>10032405 It cured my homosexuality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:42:10 2018 No.10033002 >>10033000 same, its practically cured my degeneracy now and I'm asexual now

Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:44:19 2018 No.10033007
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>>10032405
You are all and all is one. Through meditation you can tap into the infinite intelligence that has many names. God being one of them. This can help you navigate through life and find bliss. I realize most people here are stuck on logic based thought forms and refuse to go beyond the veil. There are huge amounts of information on the truth. If you seek you will find.
Psychedelics can aid you on this path to higher conciousness.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:45:33 2018 No.10033009 >>10033007 psychedelics just make me feel like a druggie loser

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:52:44 2018 No.10033021 >>10033009 You need to take them more and more up to the point you actually believe the shit you hallucinate

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 14:55:25 2018 No.10033031 >>10033021 I already hit that point by the 4th time I took acid. Life is a joke, time is an illusion, we're all in hell etc etc. I feel like determinism is true and we're all basically just observing everything unfold as a super complex system

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 15:04:31 2018 No.10033050 >>10033031 Wouldn't that make observation the opposite of determinism?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 15:33:18 2018 No.10033108 File: 32 KB, 450x707, 1529851082128.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10032929 no its totally not the point of it

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 15:34:41 2018 No.10033112 File: 166 KB, 491x343, c;; (2).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10033002 i want this, more please

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 15:37:55 2018 No.10033121 >>10033108 then what is the point

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 16:05:53 2018 No.10033160 >>10032460 exactly

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 27 18:07:27 2018 No.10033382 File: 53 KB, 340x342, brook-taylor-0fb22d57-1736-41c4-b83e-77f827575c3-resize-750.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10033121 not thinking

Anonymous Thu Sep 27 18:43:22 2018 No.10033438
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>>10032405
Meditation is just a tool for achieving a goal.
Amphetamine sulfate works works better for me lmao
No need to get all calm and shit.
Just boof 20mg of it and you're fucking golden.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 04:10:52 2018 No.10034357 >>10032405 Lrn2meme fgt pls

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 04:28:24 2018 No.10034374 I've tried it, but only with outside help, I can't seem to pull it off on my own. Felt great afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 04:39:26 2018 No.10034388 >>10032405 If you're agro as fuck it will make you less argo. If you're the type of person who already thinks meditation is cool you're already chill enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 12:23:21 2018 No.10034925 >>10032405 no, check out the bonzo monks, they get set on fire to die and dont even squint at it, they really mastered control over their every feeling.

Anonymous Fri Sep 28 12:53:01 2018 No.10034968

>>10032932
>Meditation can help for depression, but keep in mind if your depression is very serious, then you'll probably need some other extra help.
This is an important thing to keep in mind. Meditation will make you feel more in touch with yourself, but that is possibly not desirable if you're a mess under the surface. Maybe you will start to notice the problems under the calm surface of water and you will see that there is whole ocean of darkness underneath. On the plus side if you are aware of it, and you notice that there is some shit, you will know that this is the time you should get some outside help.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 12:56:32 2018 No.10034971 >>10032405 Yes, it is a meme, anyone who thinks you need to "meditate" to reach enlightenment has no clue.You are already enlightened, you just choose to not be.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 14:45:37 2018 No.10035179 Considering it has been medically proven to be effective, I would say no, it's not a meme.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 17:05:04 2018 No.10035395 Kundalini bro, look it up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 17:06:57 2018 No.10035398 >>10032938 >implying the two are mutually exclusive >implying meditation cannot be in both you’re blocking your own potential, mage

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 17:38:57 2018 No.10035434 >>10033021 Alright so I am in matrix and I need to die to meet God? Mega pill to swallow.

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