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10019633 No.10019633 [Reply] [Original]

ITT talk about DUNE

first of all, great experiment, very cool.

second of all, WTF fermilab. you guys literally posted this shit on your website:
>From neutrino oscillations to supernovas to proton decay, scientists working on the Deep Underground Neutrino Experiment pursue a broad set of research goals.

>Now the DUNE collaboration might have found a completely new application: the search for gigantic dinosaur skeletons that might be hidden in Earth’s crust.

>“Most paleontologists believe that the Argentinosaurus was the largest animal ever to roam the Earth,” said Professor Paul Sereno of the University of Chicago. “It probably weighed around 100 tons. But only a tiny fraction of animals ever get fossilized and discovered. It could well be there were dinosaurs that weighed 1,000 tons or more. With DUNE, we have the chance to find out.”

gigantic dinosaurs. really.

>> No.10019644

They aren’t allowed to say any more, neither am I. But, yes, gigantic.

>> No.10019662
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10019662

even ignoring the square cube law, there's a limit in size due to pressures exerted on the body and blood. Unless dinosaurs had some extremely weird blood, or they were all aquatic dinosaurs I don't believe they could be much bigger than the ones we know today.

>> No.10019765

>>10019644
>>10019662
fine, maybe there were really big dinosaurs

but how in god's name does that have anything to do with DUNE? a neutrino beam going from chicago to south dakota is not going to miraculously happen to pass right through a gigantic dino fossil, and even if it did, they wouldn't see it for sure

>> No.10019772

>>10019633
is this just X-raying the planet?

>> No.10019825

>>10019772
lol

>> No.10020070

>>10019633
got a link?

>> No.10020082

>>10019825
explain what the difference is. looks like they're shooting beams of someshit through the earth and collecting an """""image"""""" on a sensor somewhere.

>> No.10020414

>>10019662
Heart like a grasshopper.

>> No.10020752

>>10020070
yeah bro

http://news.fnal.gov/2018/04/fermilab-to-use-dune-to-discover-dinosaurs/

i kind of see where this is coming from: high-energy physics needs "outreach" that ordinary folk can relate to -- "yeah our work relates to discovering cool new dinos!" but this is clearly easily debunkable

>> No.10020765

>>10020082
no, the DUNE experiment is meant to study neutrino oscillations basically

so to detect neutrinos, without other shit coming in from from the sky like cosmic rays and atmospheric muons, you need to build your detector deep underground, like in the mineshaft in Lead, SD

second, you want to be able to have a controlled beam of neutrinos coming into it, and for neutrinos to oscillate, they have to travel some long distance, so Fermilab fits that ticket because it's a few states away, and they have the ~best accelerator complex in the USA.

that's what DUNE is for. it's not meant to be "scanning" the ground between Chicago and Lead

>> No.10020951

>>10019633
>>10020752
It's an april fools joke. But damn I do wonder if we could use neutrinos for any sort of tomography. It'd be fucking hilarious if we could put up a particle accelerator in a polar orbit, and put a particle detector in the same orbit, but 180 degrees out of phase. So you know we could do neutrino tomography of the entire earth. I guess both satellites would need to be death star sized for radiation shielding. Satellite one with the particle accelerator would basically be a death star.

>> No.10020956

>>10019633
i thought this was going to be a diagram of the sandworm life cycle. Instead... wtf idk

>> No.10020961

>>10020951
key, good post, thanks.
i honestly didn’t connect the April 1 thing until you pointed it out.... very clever, FNAL

>> No.10020974

>>10019633
So from the picture I take it fermilab has weaponized dinosaur skeletons in order to attack research facilities??

>> No.10021002

>>10019772
Basically. They did something similar with the pyramids, they used a particle detector to look for hidden chambers without having to excavate.

>> No.10021003

>>10020974
Stanford Underground Research Facility is breeding graboids. It's a preemptive strike.

>> No.10021039
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10021039

DUNE?

>> No.10022136

nigger this is an april fools joke