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Why aren't we talking about this? Hayabusa2 has started the process of deploying the MINERVA-II 1 rover on asteroid Ryugu. It will be the first time a rover has landed on an asteroid if it works. The original Hayabusa failed at this, so hopefully this will be better. Right now Hayabusa is descending toward the asteroid.
Here's the current(tentative) schedule:
http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp/en/topics/20180920e/
And updates seem to be happening through twitter:
https://twitter.com/haya2e_jaxa

>> No.10017253
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>>10017249
Pic related is the deployment plan. Here's the image stream from Hayabusa2:
http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp/en/galleries/onc/nav20180920/

>> No.10017339

Not American literally don't give a shit.

>> No.10017359

>>10017249
they basically do what europeans did a few years ago on comet Churyumov–Gerasimenko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philae_(spacecraft)

>> No.10017393

>>10017359

And the us did this 16 years ago.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=98874&page=1

Do journalist not do research anymore?

>> No.10017528

>>10017393
they get paid for clickbait, not research

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>>10017249
>asteroid Ryugu
>approximately 1 kilometer in diameter

I hope they are thinking of it like this, because it is more accurate.

>> No.10017738

Status update, it's still moving down. It slowed down to a blisteringly fast 10 cm/s second. Should be close to 4 km away from the surface.
>>10017393
>>10017359
Not with a rover. This thing will actually be able to move around on the asteroid. The Eros pictures were pretty shit because the spacecraft could only focus on far away stuff, this should provide better pictures.
>>10017733
It's all relative anon. This is also why they are moving so slow. Gravity is low but not zero. Gravity is 1/80,000 of a g.

>> No.10017741

>>10017738
>It's all relative anon.

Not to the human mind it isn't. If you design your device using >>10017249 instead of >>10017733 you may lull yourself into some pretty glaring mistakes. Worse has been done in the past with all this shit which really makes me wonder.

>> No.10017769

>>10017741
Both of those are renders which were produced years after the device was designed. And again, there is in fact down here because there is gravity. The surface gravity is an order of magnitude more than that of the ISS. Also as far as lulling yourself into glaring mistakes, I must say git gud.

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>>10017769
I'm not the one who needs to, "get gud."

>> No.10018291

It's down to about 1.5 km in altitude.

>> No.10018312

Good luck Hayabusa chan!

>> No.10018438
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[MINERVA-II1] September 21 at 11:00 JST: The altitude of the spacecraft is now at 900m. This image was captured at 10:30 JST. The shadow of Hayabusa2 is now visible! (Real-time display of the navigation images has stopped: please wait for recovery).

Personally I ain't seeing the shadow

>>10018312
that's hayabusa-kun to you
https://twitter.com/haya2kun

>> No.10018445

>>10018438
Look for the dot inside the bright spot, thats the shadow.

When you look at the thumbnail, you'll notice that the left side of the asteroid is noticeably brighter than the right. If you zoom in and look at the bright side of the asteroid, you'll notice a dark spot directly in the center of the bright area; thats the shadow.

>> No.10018495

>>10018445
you can barely fucking see it. 600 hundred meters now lads.

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500 meters. Now here's a shadow

>> No.10018543

>>10018530
Ah shit! Its habbenin!

>> No.10018568

>>10018530
[MINERVA-II1] The shadow of Hayabusa2 on the surface of Ryugu is gradually becoming stronger. The altitude of the spacecraft is now down to about 400m. The image was captured at universal time, UTC 2018-09-21 03:05

yeah what they said about that image.

>> No.10018574

I wish that was me

>> No.10018595
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[MINERVA-II1] Hayabusa2 and the operation team are working hard! Please think good thoughts!

[MINERVA-II1] September 21 at 12:58 JST. The altitude of the spacecraft is confirmed to be about 200m.

So yeah things are going well, have a badly processed image. Deployment process might have already been started, we'll know in a bit after the light lag. Also make sure to think happy thoughts

>> No.10018605

>>10018595
Thank you anon i really really appreciate you

>> No.10018615
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Oh yeah we're close now. As you can see from this partially complete image that was delivered from across the solar system at speeds lower than dial up internet.

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[MINERVA-II1] September 21 at 13:17 JST. The altitude display for the spacecraft has finally dropped to about 100m. In the control room, you can hear the sound of deep breaths around the room.

also check out the big asteroid in the navcam view

>> No.10018620

Shadow looks like a TIE fighter

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>>10018620
yup

>> No.10018629

>>10018595
>Please think good thoughts!

that was cute

>> No.10018639

>>10018629
keep thinking them! We're not going to find out if deployment was successful for about 20 minutes or so. And then there's landing...

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gotta love not even dial-up space internet

>> No.10018667

>>10018664
These images are sort of confusing. Are they showing the full face of the asteroid with a super wide angle lens, or is it really that small?

>> No.10018680

>Heeeeeeere weeeeee cooooome!!!!!!!!!

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>>10018680

>> No.10018683

SEPERATION CONFIRMED!

>> No.10018688

is there some livestream?

>> No.10018689

>>10018667
It is very small

>> No.10018694

>>10018667
wide angle lense and the asteroid is less than 1 km in diameter
>>10018688
nope. Just gonna have to live with whatever jaxa says and images streamed at a whopping 8912 bits/second

>> No.10018697

>>10018694
>nope. Just gonna have to live with whatever jaxa says and images streamed at a whopping 8912 bits/second
wow, pretty lame probe

even the eurofagss who fucked up their landing on that comet had a livestream

>> No.10018699

>>10018697
They're doing their best man.

>> No.10018700

>>10018697
>focus on actual mission instead of extraneous visuals and transmission power
>lame
I guess there is an argument that more public-focused mission design is better but still

>> No.10018705

>>10018697
and some dude got in trouble for wearing a shirt. They're doing a live stream in two hours though: http://fanfun.jaxa.jp/jaxatv/detail/12886.html
Presumably some press release shit.

Now what do you do after you come? Well you go. We should be expecting it to go pretty soon.

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>>10018705
>and some dude got in trouble for wearing a shirt.
Waiting for someone from JAXA to do an interview wearing this.

>> No.10018710

>>10018700
true.

i work on a "big science" experiment and i find that every time some group of fucktard tourists or news reports comes into the control room, it's a huge fucking annoyance. and my experiment will literally SHUT DOWN when it absolutely COULD KEEP RUNNING just because some big politico or rich person wants to look at it and take pictures

so fine, no livestream, understandable

at the same time, i would be personally way more excited if 4chan weren't the #1 best source for following this awesome mission

>> No.10018715

and now it's hauling ass out of there!
http://haya2now.jp/en.html

>> No.10018721

>>10018700
>>10018710
could also be a japanese culture thing
>>10018707
the nail that sticks out gets hammered down.

>> No.10018727

And we've got a bit rate drop cause Hayabusa tilted around and took some picture to see where the rover landed.

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>>Detachment of MINERVA - Ⅱ 1, complete! I'm a bit lonely, but because I can communicate, it's always the same. From now on you will send us photos, temperature and various data of Ryugu gently. Take me to Ryuguu Expedition! ~haya2kun

Please wait warmly data is downloading. Also here's a pic that indicates that indeed hayabusa2 did indeed haul ass out of there.

>> No.10018763

stop poking around ryugu people uguuu~~ >_<

>> No.10018817

>>10018747
>gently
>warmly

What do they mean when they say stuff like this? I see it a lot on aliexpress stuff too.

>> No.10018820

>>10018817
>>gently
that came out of the google translate
>>warmly
lurk moar.

>> No.10018825

>>10018820
Don't tell me to lurk moar I've seen it tons of times. I just don't know what point they're trying to get across when they say warmly.

>> No.10018838

>>【MINERVA - Ⅱ 1】 September 21 15: 30 JST: We confirmed communication with MINERVA - II - 1. We have confirmed the rise of the spacecraft after MINERVA-II-1 emission. The current altitude is about 2.5 km. The state of the spacecraft is normal. The closest altitude of the spacecraft was about 55 m and the separation time was 13:05 at the probe time.

so yeah, even if they bowled the rovers into pits like rosetta at least we got something

>> No.10018841

>>10018825
it's just a euphemism for "please wait patiently" in japanese.

>> No.10018846

>>10018841
Thank you

>> No.10018856

welp, so turns out that JAXA can't receive on the KA-band which is why the bit rate is so low. Which means we have to wait till the big dish in Canberra can receive it. Interestingly this stream starts at about the same time the big dish starts listening too it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrwMFbzl-Fs

>> No.10018875

>>10018856
aaaand the stream's up.

>> No.10018893

>>10018875
aaaaannd canberra has signal in the (slow) X-band. Fuck we're gonna have to wait for pics. From the press conference we probably have touchdown. Solar cell voltages dropped at the exact moment the probes were expected to impact, indicating they were covered by the ground.

>> No.10019303

>>10018763
>not wanting to bully Ryugu by poking its chubby cheeks

>> No.10020359

>>10017359
>they basically do what europeans did a few years ago on comet Churyumov–Gerasimenko
Fuck it up?

>> No.10020363

>>10017783
>failed because all of the solar panels had to deploy before the antenna could deploy
>if this point of failure in the design had been addressed Beagle 2 would have functioned fine on reduced power

fucking ESA always fucks it up

>> No.10020379

>>10020363
They also almost managed to fuck up the Titan lander because the radio frequency it was broadcasting on wasn't right, they had to delay the probe release until the Doppler shift from it being pulled into titan's gravity would be enough to bring the frequency back in correctly.

>> No.10021016

So an update, communication stopped from the rovers when they probably hit the asteroid and rotated out of view of Hayabusa2. They're supposed to be downloading images from the rovers now. If there are actually images to download

>> No.10021737
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here we are lads

>> No.10021740

We are sorry we have kept you waiting! MINERVA-II1 consists of two rovers, 1a & 1b. Both rovers are confirmed to have landed on the surface of Ryugu. They are in good condition and have transmitted photos & data. We also confirmed they are moving on the surface.

TOUCHDOWN!!!! The part about them moving makes me wonder if they drifting over the surface

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>>10021737

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>>10021741

>> No.10021746

>>10021741
Yikes a ghost!

>> No.10022142

Good week for Japan space! also having a successful H-IIB launch this morning of an HTV cargo flight to the ISS.

>> No.10022291

>>10017359
Us yuropoors failed though, and with a lander, not two rovers. Godspeed the japs.

>> No.10022440

>>10021740
Oh fuck the rovers they deployed are FULLY autonomous. There is no human control at all, they explore the asteroid all on their own. This means these rovers are out of control! They're probably hopping around right now
>>10022291
It's not over yet, the main science lander on Hayabusa2 was made by DLR

>> No.10023244

dammit, I can't wait for more images from the rover.