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9961610 No.9961610 [Reply] [Original]

You have two people in front of you, they both went to a top 100 school and they both have a 4.0 GPA

One has a degree in math the other a degree in biology.

Which one is more intelligent?

>> No.9961619

The one who majored in Biology. He had to analyze and understand complex biological systems and remember pathways in great detail as well as solve problems based on those details. The math guy had to plug a few things in his calculator.

>> No.9961623

>>9961610

Whichever one has a greater ability to work with their colleagues in order to advance the progress of understanding.

>> No.9961631

>>9961619
The biologist literally got his degree by reading 30 textbooks and regurgitating that information on tests

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>>9961610

>> No.9961641

>>9961610
Raw intelligence? The math major

Practical intelligence? The bio major

>> No.9961645

>>9961610
The one who recognizes the difference between math and biology isn't enough to make a decision on intelligence and doesn't propagate IQ bullshit on forchan

>> No.9961669

Math

>> No.9961716

>>9961610
Let them take an IQ test and we’ll find out

>> No.9961742

>>9961716
>IQ
Can't tell if people really are this stupid.
Let me just kill you IQ hypothesis
> thinks it measures intelligence
> meanwhile, can't even define intelligence
> IQ isn't standardized at all
> people with high test scores focused on the test
> scientific racism justification
If you think intelligence can be broken down into numbers, you're dumb as shit and have never actually thought about what IQ claims

>> No.9961758

>>9961742
>implying justifying scientific racism is a bad thing
guessing that this is the actual reason you don't like IQ tests and the rest of your post is just fluff.

>> No.9961762

>>9961758
>doesn't know the difference between science and pseudoscience
Let me guess, christfag?

>> No.9961769

>>9961762
It's not my fault that niggers are dumb

>> No.9961773

>>9961769
>clearly demonstrates stupidity
Lel?

>> No.9961777

>>9961773
>Lel
Cringe

>> No.9961780

>>9961777
Didn't think I'd get through to you so quickly. Is cringe too if i suddenly knew how to Google to fact claims made on the internet

>> No.9961788

>>9961610
Whichever one understands the TV show "Rick and Morty"

>> No.9961798

>>9961780
Cringe

>> No.9961956

>>9961610
Neither cause they aren't gender studies professors

>> No.9961984

>>9961610
the man

>> No.9962102

>>9961610
>>9961610
Math dude probably has high iq since math majors have on average an iq of 130 estimated based on sat"s, biology is lower but biology Students on average have way lower gda so theyre both exceptional and I have no fucking clue who to choose

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>>9961610
Has it occured to you that people choose a certain study out of interest?

If both people have a 4.0 GPA and are able to go to a top 100 school they're able to get a degree in whatever they're interested in.

The one top 100 school 4.0 GPA guy is interested in math so he got degree in math.
The other top 100 school 4.0 GPA guy is interested in biology so he got a degree in biology.

The entry level to get a math degree is higher than a biology degree which is why the avg iq is higher, but this is irrelevant as it has been established that both students have an equal GPA and both attend top 100 schools.

>> No.9962182

>>9962131
smarter people tend to be naturally attracted to mathy subjects, like maths themselves or physics, rather than fucking biology lmao. People major according to their interests, which are determined by their intelligence

>> No.9962189

>>9961623
Biology major: "Yeah he wants onion rings instead of fries"

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>>9962182

>> No.9962232

>>9962182
Very ignorant and untrue, are you underage?

>> No.9962237

>>9961631
The mathematician literally got his degree by reading 30 textbooks and regurgitating that information on tests.

>> No.9962279

>>9962182
muh positive correlation

>> No.9962472

>>9962237
not true
you can not get a math degree by memorizing information
Thats how you get a biology degree

>> No.9962499

>>9961762
>says IQ is real
>therefore is also a christfag
wow, excellent logic

>> No.9962503

>>9962237
t. biologist that scraped through calc II with a 50%

>> No.9962536

>>9961788
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

>> No.9962625

>>9962182
simpleton

>> No.9962631

>>9961780
You're cringe my guy

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>>9961742

>> No.9962679

>>9961742
weee its another "IQ disagrees with my ideology therefore it is nonsense" and "let me assign things to IQ it doesnt care about to make it seem inconsistent"

>> No.9962684

>>9961742
> thinks it measures intelligence
it does, insofar as any axiomatic system measures anything
> meanwhile, can't even define intelligence
what it is measuring is clearly defined
> IQ isn't standardized at all
wrong
> people with high test scores focused on the test
No shit, learning is a demonstrable phenomenon
> scientific racism justification
Scientifically justified racism is the only valid form of racism. IQ isnt the first, only, or more credible form of scientific justification for racism.
>If you think intelligence can be broken down into numbers, you're dumb as shit and have never actually thought about what IQ claims
The natural world can be broken down into numbers because quantification is what science is, human intelligence is part of the natural world and is therefore quantifiable. Get off this board and back to pol if you are going to base everything you think off of ideology.

>> No.9962694

>>9961742
>scientific racism justification
opinion discarded, thanks for showing your true colors

>> No.9962698

>>9962237
The mathematician could have got his degree by reading 30 textbooks and regurgitating information. the biologist did

>> No.9962701

not dissing biology at all cause I know they have hard classes, but if I'm not mistaken the bulk of it is memorization, so a mid-level brainlet with good study habits can be competent
granted, brainlets can get through math by studying hard as well but math involves more application and problem solving ability, so I doubt they could come out with a 4.0 at a top 100 school

>> No.9962704

>>9961610
You're probably more intelligent than either of them since they both have meme educations.

>> No.9962744

>>9961610
How much research did they do? If none whatsoever, then I'd say math guy. If the biology guy was producing some decent research, then obviously biology wins

>> No.9962749

>>9961610
>but math involves more application and problem solving ability, so I doubt they could come out with a 4.0 at a top 100 school
Have you never met a Chinese person? You can absolutely maintain a 4.0 in math with no talent if you invest enough time into blindly memorizing everything you can find.

>> No.9962754

>implying calculus and linear algebra aren't just rote learning

>> No.9962756

>>9962754
>a math degree is calculus and linear algebra
Take a real math course you dumb biologists

>> No.9962766

>>9961610
either one could be more intelligent based on the information given

I would say a mathematical degree is more difficult as someone who graduated biology, but the applications of biology at the highest level are arguably more important in the modern world

the biologist is in a point where he can more help the world
the mathematician is in a point where he can more help himself

philosophers question who the more intelligent is

>> No.9962815

>>9962756
Topology and differential geometry arent any better tho

>> No.9962820

>>9962749
k asians don't count

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>>9961610
The one who cares more for how they can improve themselves and the world around them, than debating who is the most intelligent. You can be stupid as hell but still make a significant contribution to the world. Hell, you could accidentally trigger the start of a series of things that greatly benefits the world. Neanderthals were very intelligent and didn't have the higher education we have today. If our ancestors were retarded we wouldn't have survived long enough to exist today. Think about that.

>> No.9962838

>>9961610
>math degree easily replaced by calculator
>bio degree is like a human Wikipedia

>> No.9962864

>>9962832
the point of the thread is which subject is more intellectually demanding you emotional trainwreck

>> No.9962866

>>9962838
wikipedia is an ironically appropriate comparison

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>>9962864
>the point of the thread is which subject is more intellectually demanding
That's subjective. Not everyone has the same level of aptitude. Some people will naturally be better at certain things than others. Savant syndrome is also a thing. It's not about whether something is hard, it's about whether or not you have what it takes to git gud. Not sure why you're calling me an "emotional trainwreck" but I'm going to assume you're attacking me to help cope with your insecurities.

>> No.9962888

>>9962883
>not everyone has the same level of aptitude
Ya, its why math majors are smarter than bio majors

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>>9962888
>genuinely believing that potential is measured in documents of higher education
>actually insinuating that higher education is anything more than a symbol of willpower
Smart people don't look down on others or argue over who's more intelligent. In the end, a "major" is just a one-trick pony. Goodbye, have a nice day, I'm turning my computer off to go outside for a walk right after I post this message.

>> No.9962897

>>9962883
intelligence can be objectified as far as critical thinking
I said you're emotional cause it sounded like you were getting defensive and I assumed you were a triggered bio major

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>>9962894
>calls other people insecure

>> No.9962903

>>9962894
go enjoy your nature walk you stupid biofag

>> No.9962905

>>9962894
hows that 60k a year conservationist salary treating you?

>> No.9963044

>math
just math lol
>biology
biochemistry, physics, ecology, zoology, botany, biogeography...

>> No.9963353

>>9961610
This must be a joke. Mathematics is the most legitimate and rigorous intellectual field. Biology is literally just for sorority whores who want to pretend that they can contribute meaningfully to the world. If you drink some coffee you can probably learn the entirety of a biology course in a weekend.

>> No.9963406

>>9961610
the mathcuck got a degree for memorizing the meaning of some antiquated greek symbols with absolutely no use in the modern world.

the biologist actually had to learn something that's relevant to life (ie, life)

>> No.9963473

>>9961610
Both are equally useless as undergrad majors, bio become lab tech or medicine. Math does cs or researches some shit so abstract that only nth level autists would find it intriguing.

>> No.9963493

> thinking your major matters

>> No.9963528

>>9961610
depends. what does the rest of their life look like?

>> No.9963533

I like how the biologists are all saying that math is just memorizing information. I find it funny since
A. biology degree (atleast for undergrad) is literally memorizing information. It involves no critical thought or problem solving skills.
B. college math != calculus. Calculus and even linear algebra is just glorified arithmetic. People can't really say that math is just memorizing information until they take any of the 3rd and 4th year math courses.

>> No.9963585

>>9962684
>Something as complicated as human intelligence can be gleaned from a test
What you fail to realize is that IQ tests are designed to measure just that IQ not human intelligence which would be a massive matrix. just imagine the statistical error in a nxn matrix if (n+1)(n-1) entries arn't even looked at. Bud.

>> No.9964050

>>9963585
No I dont, I even alluded to it as my first and second points. Learn to read.

>> No.9965670

>>9961610
What do they do with their free time?
Any projects they work on?

>> No.9966134

>implying intelligence and knowledge are the same thing

>> No.9966224

>>9962536
ok redditfag you can go now

>> No.9966227

>>9963044
>biogeogrpahy
ye what

>> No.9966376

>>9961619
>the biofag knows nothing about math beyond calculators
lmao