What is the scientific basis for american bottom surgery?

[Anonymous No.15666294]

American schizos claim the procedure is for health reasons and that it is the only way to avoid contracting HIV and other STDs I think they are wrong

[Anonymous No.15666303]

>>15666294
Trans rights are just the wave of the future

[Anonymous No.15666311]

>>15666294
I don't understand. Are you talking about vaginoplasties?

[Anonymous No.15666322]

>>15666294
anon this surgery was invented in Germany

[Anonymous No.15666326]

>>15666294
To earn more money to invest further into such since so that they can earn even more money afterwards

[Anonymous No.15666446]

>>15666294
They make more money doing it than not doing it. Simple as.
As long as medicine is for profit in America I will never be convinced it's done "for good"

What other procedure has been blurred the line so successfully between medical procedure and ancient religious barbarism?

[Anonymous No.15666492]

>>15666294
Jews, Jews and Jews.

[Anonymous No.15666940]

>>15666294
Same as every other plastic surgery, money,

[Anonymous No.15666976]

>>15666303
>>15666311
>>15666322
>>15666326
>>15666940
He's talking about circumcision I think

[Anonymous No.15667742]

>>15666311
Not any bottom surgery, he meant AMERICAN bottom surgery. Use the pic for reference.

[Anonymous No.15667853]

>>15666940

[Anonymous No.15667940]

>>15666294
IT'S DA JOOZ

[Anonymous No.15668061]

>>15666294
Circumcised is objectively a better dick. By all measures.

[Anonymous No.15668074]

>>15668061
No it isnt, uncut guy here

[Anonymous No.15668084]

>>15668061
There is much less risk your baby's dick will get infected and fall off or have serious complications when you don't mutilate your new borns.
If anything female gentialia is the one that benefits greatly and becomes much more hygienic and aesthetic without all the flaps and folds, but that is basically illegal.

[Anonymous No.15668201]

>>15668084
Lmao well said. Roast beef is gross and 99% it indicates promiscuous sex. No man i know prefers it . We all love innie cunny. Meanwhile the foreskin is needed to lubricate and protect the penis head which is very similar to the tissue Inside your mouth. Imagine your mouth was completely dry and exposed to the elements. It would look like shit. Just look at any mouth breather and you'll know

[Anonymous No.15668202]

Cutfags coping that phimosischads have the objectively most aesthetically pleasing penis

[Anonymous No.15668528]

>>15666294
Like other anons said money is a factor but I think something not as talked about is how it's in a way nicer of the two options. Saying "yes you can become a woman" is MUCH kinder than "No, you are not a woman and never will be go to therapy you freak". As long as therapists and doctors choose to coddle and shun self development surgery will always seem like a good option for them.

[Anonymous No.15668580]

>>15666976
>>15667742
Circumcision has never been called "bottom surgery" by any human in all of history.

[Anonymous No.15668583]

>>15668528
>Saying "yes you can become a woman" is MUCH kinder than "No, you are not a woman and never will be go to therapy you freak".
How about the third option of lovingly educating your child that their gender is just a reflection of their biology but doesn't have to define who they are or how they behave? Explain that there's nothing wrong with them and their body doesn't need to change because their biology and their intellectual interests/behaviors don't have to "match" in the first place.

[Anonymous No.15668615]

>>15666294
Eugenics

[Anonymous No.15668619]

>>15666294
>Foreskin harvesting racks in billions for the cosmetic and medical industry, as it can be used for cell culturing, skin grafting and more.
>A single foreskin can be worth up to $100k
>you have been mutilated to regenerate the skin of old hags
>Infant circumcision has been shown to negatively affect psychometrics for the victims entire life, damage is consistent with the effects of PTSD
https://www.academia.edu/7151881/Circumcision_Serial_Killing_and_Criminal_Behavior_in_American_Medical_Violence
https://www.cirp.org/library/pain/taddio2/
https://journals.lww.com/pain/Abstract/2005/02000/Long_term_effects_of_neonatal_surgery_on_adulthood.15.aspx
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275029542_Circumcision_of_Infants_and_Children_Short-Term_Trauma_and_Long-Term_Psychosexual_Harm
https://www.cell.com/heliyon/fulltext/S2405-8440(20)32409-9?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS2405844020324099%3Fshowall%3Dtrue
>A piston-roller bearing is not the same as a naked piston, so mechanical functioning is changed necessarily, essentially your dick is no longer a penetrating device, but a dildo
>marked decrease in overall sexual satisfaction
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17155977/
>25 yr old felt like 75% of his sensitivity was gone and ended his life:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-47292307
>infant circumcision is on average twice as destructive as adult circumcision, as measured on cadavers by Taylor, and the most sensitive parts of the penis are removed, as shown by Sorrels using a scientific method to measure sensitivity (fine-touch with monofilaments)
https://bjui-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2006.06685.x
>As with all surgeries there is a risk for infection and necrosis, this means that some infants will lose part of, or even their entire genitals, giving them a debilitating disability for their entire life, in the worst case, killing them

[Anonymous No.15668620]

>>15666294

[Anonymous No.15668659]

>>15668620
I'm circumcised but don't support circumcision and would never have my child circumcised, but making fun of people for having their bodies mutilated before they could even form thoughts is just fucking obnoxious and trying to smear cut cocks as being disgusting and useless and unwanted is just vile. It's like saying someone is an unlovable slutbag for being raped as a toddler. Decry circumcision for the abuse that it is, but stop turning it into personal attacks on the people who were abused, that's the line people keep crossing that makes everyone defensive and it just makes anti-circumcision advocates look like petty faggots which does far more harm than good in convincing people not to circumcise their sons.

[Anonymous No.15668667]

>>15668583
Your not wrong, having more nuance is usually closer to the truth and healthier but it can add more effort on the listener.

[Anonymous No.15668674]

>>15668620
>lose 2,000,000 nerve endings
This number keeps getting bigger. I wonder what it'll be in 10 years. Twenty squillion?

[Anonymous No.15668739]

>>15668583
Gender dysphoria doesn't work like that. It can't be convinced away.

People suffering from gender dysphoria can already look down and see their genitals to confirm their sex, but that doesn't resolve the crushing feeling of being in the wrong body. Telling them that they'll be stuck with their gender, and therefore stuck living unfulfilled as a person they despise is borderline inhumane. That's why bottom surgery and HRT was made available for people suffering with gender dysphoria. It's a solution that gets them a lot closer to being the person they wish they could be.

[Anonymous No.15668781]

>>15668061
LOL it kills my boner by 40% unless everything else is 10/10, cripples are that repulsing to me, not to mention that my brain associates it with desert fairy tales

[Anonymous No.15668784]

>>15668580
i just did

where is your god now?

[Anonymous No.15668791]

>>15668739
The crushing feeling of being in the wrong body comes from people telling kids that their behavior is wrong.
>That's for boys!
>That's for girls!
>You're such a girl!
>You're acting like a boy!
When these sentiments reach the ears of a developing child trying to make sense of the world they start to develop feelings that there's something wrong with them. Like you said, they can look down and confirm their sex, but when a boy is told that things he likes to do and ways he expresses himself are "for girls" that plants the seed of dysphoria.
>Well, if everything I do is too girly or for girls, and I can't change those things no matter how hard I try, then I must just BE a girl...
This is the kind of logic very small children will engage in, sometimes at an age so early that they can't even remember the specifics later in life outside of the general feeling that something is wrong with their gender.
Similar to abusing a small child by calling them stupid constantly. As they get older they might not even remember who told them that or why but they have a distinct and unshakeable feeling that they're stupid and it becomes a huge mental/emotional hurdle to overcome.

The biggest problem I see is that trans ideology keeps pushing this idea that if you engage in "girly" activities/behaviors you ARE a girl and if you engage in "boyish" activities/behaviors you ARE a boy. It's literally just nu-sexism reinstating the strict gender roles of the 1950s everyone claims to be against. The only difference is that instead of a strict father telling a boy to "man up" we have liberal mothers telling a boy to take HRT; same problem from a different angle. If we reassured kids that their bodies and minds don't have to "match" in these strict ways we could help them be comfortable with themselves instead of planting all these seeds of doubt and self-loathing that lead to transgenderism.

[Anonymous No.15668794]

>>15668784
That just proves you're not human.

[Anonymous No.15668802]

>>15666976
What does that have to do with trans rights?

[Anonymous No.15668847]

>>15668794
that just proves you encountered new data that you haven't been trained on chatgpt

[Anonymous No.15668872]

>>15668791
While I believe there's some truth to that, positive reinforcement alone will not help those who already have gender dysphoria or who may have abusive parents that enforces gender roles on to them.

>The biggest problem I see is that trans ideology keeps pushing this idea that if you engage in "girly" activities/behaviors you ARE a girl and if you engage in "boyish" activities/behaviors you ARE a boy. It's literally just nu-sexism reinstating the strict gender roles of the 1950s everyone claims to be against.
I dont think that's a fair assessment given there's very few detransitioners which suggests that they're diagnosed correctly. Plus, there aren't any harsh consequences for not transitioning compared to living up to gender roles. Parents help their children transition in an attempt to support their child, not denigrate them.

[Anonymous No.15668877]

>>15668872
Do you think that the kid who was called stupid all his childhood should be lobotomized so that his intelligence matches what he perceives it to be, or do you think he should receive therapy to help him understand that he's not stupid and there's nothing actually wrong with him?

[Anonymous No.15668886]

>>15668877
That's a really bad false equivalence. HRT and bottom surgery doesn't have a negative effect like lobotomies. Regardless, I have no idea what the treatment for that should be, but I would be against anything that's outright harmful like a lobotomy.

[Anonymous No.15668906]

>>15668886
I don't see it as different at all. It's extreme body modification to match a person's faulty perception of themselves which was borne from intentional or unintentional childhood abuse. There are people who genuinely believe that one or more of their limbs shouldn't be part of their bodies, should we give those people amputations and remove perfectly healthy limbs from their bodies to match their faulty self-perception?

[Anonymous No.15668910]

>>15668872
>that they're diagnosed correctly.
it doesn't matter what a stupid cuck imagined that a male is. there is no separate gender role anything. that shit is over. it is history. it literally does not exist.

>there aren't any harsh consequences for not transitioning compared to living up to gender roles
you get propagandized by retarded room temp IQ chimpanzee ape lunatics who are too afraid to act on their fantasies because they would go to jail or get stabbed

[Anonymous No.15668917]

>>15666294
That's a stock clip art image that you can pay to use. lol

[Anonymous No.15668921]

>>15668201
>99% it indicates promiscuous sex
Where do people get this shit? It's genetic. Nothing more to it than that.

[Anonymous No.15668941]

>>15668872
Are you dumb?
What is there for a detransitioner?
The chance to live as a weirdo eunuch instead of a wannabe woman? The chance to live as a girl with a 3 inch clitoris, dry vagina, no breasts, no ovaries and a beard?
Once they go through that path they can't turn back. There is no real estate left. They would compete at the bottom 1% of the the bottom 1% of sexual value.
At least for current trannies, there are still some people who fetishize them.
So this is literally just an example of sunk cost fallacy. No matter how much it hurts, no matter how much cope there is, they stick with it, because it's better than the alternative.
If it was as simple, as taking a few pills and getting excellent healthy physique, then I am sure, that quite a few would do it, but they don't, do they?`
They try as much as they can, to run away from their problems, always needing more, never at peace with themselves.
When it gets too bad, they attempt suicide. It's incredibly tragic.
Very few ever really accept themselves for who they are and can genuinely live with it, fully comprehending what they have done and not getting upset or anxious over it.
That's why most get so incredibly defensive and angry, instead of just saying: "Yes, technically I'm a castrated man with artificial tits." and being done with it - they need to involve everyone in their cope.
And don't come at me with "oooh its because everyone is so mean to them BS".
They have the backing of every Western government, mainstream media, social media, big corporation and educational institution in our culture and all of their followers.
Their flags hang everywhere, they wear them as armbands and t-shirts, they're painted on buildings, like it's 1942.
They are continuously getting a bigger support group, with more and more teenagers coming out.
And you mean to tell me, ... that they have.. a higher suicide rate than jews, ... in Nazi Germany... during the Holocaust, ... because of bullying... and intolerance???

[Anonymous No.15669001]

>>15668921
>circumcised men can literally regrow foreskin by stretching out the skin over time
>uncircumcised men with phimosis can relieve the issue by stretching out the skin over time
>women can't alter the skin in and around the vagina by stretching it out over time because.... BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T, OKAY?!

[Anonymous No.15669025]

>>15668906
The difference is medical transition doesn't bring harm to the person unlike a lobotomy or severing limbs.

>>15668910
>it doesn't matter what a stupid cuck imagined that a male is.
There's nothing imagined about a diagnosis

>you get propagandized by retarded room temp IQ chimpanzee ape lunatics who are too afraid to act on their fantasies because they would go to jail or get stabbed
Are you one of those right wing guys that think everyone in the LGBT community are pedophiles?

>>15668941
>And you mean to tell me, ... that they have.. a higher suicide rate than jews, ... in Nazi Germany... during the Holocaust, ... because of bullying... and intolerance???
Yes, because corporate approval is not at all the same as social approval. Socially trans people are treated poorly, especially in conservative communities. Dealing with social ostracization on top of battling with their low self-esteem, it's no wonder why so many trans people commit suicide.
However, none of this means they're at "the the bottom 1% of sexual value". Many trans people are in committed relationships and even have kids.

[Anonymous No.15669037]

>>15669025
>The difference is medical transition doesn't bring harm to the person unlike a lobotomy or severing limbs.
On what basis do you determine that removing someone's penis doesn't bring harm but removing someone's arm does?

[Anonymous No.15669054]

>>15669037
The overwhelming majority of transwomen who have had the procedure done and don't regret it.
The fact that vaginoplasties doesn't massively hinder someone for life like losing a limb.

[Anonymous No.15669071]

>>15668781
>He's boasting about liking dick in his butt
You're already mentally ill, it's no surprise that you like disgusting unclean dicks riddled with STDs better. Gays like to eat shit, no surprise that you like eating smegma as well. In fact it makes total sense that a homosexual would like an uncut dick and be disturbed to the point of losing his boner by a civilized circumcised dick.

I understand now that these threads are all created by homosexuals afraid of cleanliness, health & hygiene. Thanks for letting us know OP.

[Anonymous No.15669093]

>>15669054
>The overwhelming majority of transwomen who have had the procedure done and don't regret it.
So if we start giving people lobotomies and amputations at their request and enough people don't regret it then we can declare there's no harm done?
>The fact that vaginoplasties doesn't massively hinder someone for life like losing a limb.
Define "hinder." A faux vagina comes with a laundry list of issues, particularly with regard to maintenance and hygiene. On what basis do you get to decide what someone does or doesn't consider a hindrance or a measured trade-off?

[Anonymous No.15669152]

>>15669071
>civilized
you're literally scared of soap lol

[Anonymous No.15669153]

>>15669093
>So if we start giving people lobotomies and amputations at their request and enough people don't regret it then we can declare there's no harm done?
No since there's observable harm that's done.
>Define "hinder."
It makes life much harder
>On what basis do you get to decide what someone does or doesn't consider a hindrance or a measured trade-off?
It is literally a hinderance.

[Anonymous No.15669237]

>>15669025
You seriously think that trans people have a harder time socially than jews during the holocaust?
Are you mentally retarded?
And don't take out of context what I said.
A trans woman is not going to be able to detransition and compete with men, a trans men is not going to be able to detransition and compete with women.

[Anonymous No.15669272]

>>15669153
I usually try to be respectful and nice, but I really don't do well with stupid people.
You are so out of it, seriously.
For some magical reason trannies are special and gender surgery is astrologically different from any other body affirming surgery?
If someone can get their balls removed because they feel like a woman, why can't they have their arm removed if they feel like a cripple?
Both are fucking body dysmorphia? Oh wait! That's right, you lobbied the doctors by threatening legal action and now transgenderism is uniquely defined as gender dysphoria, which although it has exactly the same expression and symptoms as body dysmorphia, is not a mental illness.
Ahh! of course! What a way to get whatever the fuck you want!
I swear 90% of trannies are fucking psychopaths or narcissists.
You people are ridiculous.
It's not even that I care what you do to yourselves.
I really could care less about what you do to your own bodies, but Christ, how can you be so disingenuous? How can you have such a superficial and straight up fake worldview?
You are such a bunch of fucking liars, you lie to yourselves, to your parents, your friends, to the doctors, to the media, to the public, as long as you get whatever the fuck you want.
Fuck off the board now.

[Anonymous No.15669281]

>>15669025
>There's nothing imagined about a diagnosis
EVERYTHING is imagined about a "diagnosis" that came entirely from your head about a completely separate person that you spent 1 hr of your day with at best, and learned something stupid like "this person likes cooking and is a man" any conclusions you may reach from that information are entirely imagined in your head and don't exist anywhere else

>Are you one of those right wing guys that think everyone in the
no i was actually propagandized at school
that stuff only happens at schools. i really think you're not a man to do that shit in a context where you can get harassed and assaulted for free, when trash like you step in the real world it always ends badly, you end up killing companies and products like budweiser and worse

[Anonymous No.15669501]

>>15669272
You are completely confused
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Nothing has changed. The treatment for gender dysphoria is transitioning. Gender affirming surgeries don't (significantly) harm a person's body like a losing a limb since losing a limb would make life much, much harder which is most likely why the medical industry doesn't approve of those surgeries.

You call me disingenuous and yet you want me to go along with this idea that altering genitals to function differently is the same as completely removing functionality of a limb by severing it off. How do you not see how ridiculous that is?

>>15669237
Jews had their families, friends, and communities to give them solace. Trans people often don't have that. They feel isolated and depressed with few options for respite just to feel human again. They're often ostracized from their families and friends and seen as freaks by everyday people. Of course this doesn't apply to all trans people, but this is the experience of a lot of them.
Just go on /lgbt/ and see what they post about.
>A trans woman is not going to be able to detransition and compete with men, a trans men is not going to be able to detransition and compete with women.
Compete in what way?

[Anonymous No.15669511]

>>15669153
>No since there's observable harm that's done.
There's observable harm done to the mutilated genitals of the person who transitions.
>It makes life much harder
By what metric? You could say that having mutilated barely functional genitals that you have to maintain daily to prevent from healing over makes life much harder.
>It is literally a hinderance.
Let's say I'm already in a wheelchair and I want to cut my leg off for no good medical reason. What hindrance have I imposed on myself?

You still can't answer WHY you think what you do, you just keep repeating the same generic terms without anything to back it up. Allowing surgical self-mutilation as a treatment for mental illness opens a can of worms you're clearly not mentally or emotionally prepared to deal with because you keep drawing these indefensibly arbitrary lines using terms you refuse to clearly define. What you have is a reactionary emotional stance rather than an actually well thought-out principled stance.

[Anonymous No.15669598]

>>15669093
>So if we start giving people lobotomies and amputations at their request and enough people don't regret it then we can declare there's no harm done?
In psych* logic, yes.

[Anonymous No.15669607]

>>15669511
Outside of a botched surgery, there isn't any harm to a vaginoplasty. Like any surgery there's a healing process, but after that it functions as a sex organ. Meanwhile, removing a limb only removes functionality.
>Allowing surgical self-mutilation as a treatment for mental illness opens a can of worms you're clearly not mentally or emotionally prepared to deal with because you keep drawing these indefensibly arbitrary lines using terms you refuse to clearly define.
When we get to the very basis of it, to frame vaginoplasties as mutilation is akin to calling all surgeries mutilation, which would kind of defeat the purpose behind the word mutilation to begin with. At the end of the day, the surgery is really no different from other body modifications except this one is known to have a positive impact on the lives of those that get it. I see zero reason why trans women shouldn't be allowed to get it since we already know it helps them immensely and doesn't hinder them.

[Anonymous No.15669669]

>>15669607
If you don't see how removing a functional sex organ and replacing it with a less functional approximation of a different sex organ could be considered mutilation I just don't know what to tell you. Female circumcision is commonly referred to as female genital mutilation, and there are people who argue male circumcision is genital mutilation on similar grounds, but the process of fully turning a penis into a vagina or vice versa is somehow NOT genital mutilation?

[Anonymous No.15669793]

>>15669669
It's not being removed, it's being altered. It's not like they throw away the penis or something lol.
>Female circumcision is commonly referred to as female genital mutilation, and there are people who argue male circumcision is genital mutilation on similar grounds
Because the use of the word is subjective. You're subjectively deciding to frame the surgery as mutilation because you have a bias against it. Just admit you're a transphobe instead of pretending as if you care about these people.

[Anonymous No.15669796]

>>15669793
I'm a transphobe BECAUSE I care about these people and how their mental illness is exacerbated and exploited.

[Anonymous No.15669854]

>>15669796
Then you would approve of the surgery given that it's been shown to make them feel better. What you are a dogmatic asshat trying to force your way onto these people regardless of it's what they want.

[Anonymous No.15669864]

>>15669854
For someone with the mental illness that makes them want an arm amputated, that surgery would make them feel better, too. You're just a dogmatic asshat trying to force your way onto those people regardless of what they want.

[Anonymous No.15669865]

>>15666294
Obsessed

[Anonymous No.15670931]

>>15668061
>Oy vey mutilate your penis goyim
>because it's better than normal dick don't ask me for a reason.
>just do it.

[Anonymous No.15670949]

>>15669071
Lol cope

[Anonymous No.15671182]

>>15670931
>don't ask me for a reason.
As a woman, here are my reasons.

Better hygiene: No chance of smegma, no chance of dirtiness, much much less smell (very important as smelly dick is the worst), almost half the bacterial load on penis etc. etc.

Much less chance of disease (probably because of the hygiene), HIV (63% less chance), HPV, syphilis and other STDs much lower risk and viral load. Even penile cancer lol. Why risk it with dirty, smelly, diseased dick when you can choose to sleep with a cleaner, much less diseased dick?

Looks nice, looks clean and gentlemanly, is nice to look at and touch, whereas uncut looks bestial. And not just me, studies show Women like the aesthetics of it no matter where they're from "the vast majority of studies concluded that women prefer circumcised penises. Even in countries where circumcision was not the norm, a majority of women found circumcised men more attractive."

Studies show circumcised men last longer in bed. Also, studies show that women like the sensation of sex with circumcised men more ("Almost 40 percent of women in the study said that their sexual satisfaction improved when their male partner had been circumcised. Only a handful of women reported less satisfaction, while the rest reported no change") . Why would I as a woman choose a worse feeling penis that lasts for a short time over a better feeling penis that losts a while as well?

inb4 lose sensation. Some very slight sensation is lost if they are circumcised as adults. But that is made up by their longer time in bed. If circumcised as a child, when the nervous system is still malleable and neurons can regrow, there is no difference in sensation as adults. "For the person with the circumcised penis, research has demonstrated little to no significant difference in sensitivity, pleasure, or sexual function"

Probably more as well if I sit down and think about it, but there is literally no downsides to it, only upsides.

>inb4 larper ynbaw
don't care

[Anonymous No.15671285]

>>15671182
larper ynbaw

[Anonymous No.15671480]

>>15671182
>As a woman

[Anonymous No.15671634]

>>15671182
As a whore sleeping with aids ridden men, your opinion is irrelevant whore.

[Anonymous No.15671639]

>>15671182
I'm glad transwomen are sticking up for us circumcised bros.

[Anonymous No.15671644]

>>15666294
Because I like cutting off the sensitive part of men's penises, so they'll never know how great sex feels. It's my kink. That's why everytime I perform a circumcision, I go low and tight, and I make sure to excise 100% of the frenulum. I get in there with the scalpel if I have to.
I'm a female urological surgeon. It's fun.

[Anonymous No.15671649]

>>15671644
Why are you using teeth the traditional kike way pedo?

[Anonymous No.15672024]

>>15671182
>Why risk it with dirty, smelly, diseased dick when you can choose to sleep with a cleaner, much less diseased dick
>Why risk it with dirty, smelly, diseased pussy when you can choose to sleep with a cleaner, much less diseased dick
Oh wait

All your arguments are either false, speculation or grossly inhumane.
Refer to my earlier reply >>15668619
Conclusion: Poster is a retarded tranny larper

[Anonymous No.15672057]

>>15672024
>Why risk it with dirty, smelly, diseased pussy when you can choose to sleep with a cleaner, much less diseased dick
Nice freudian slip you had there, gaybro.

[Anonymous No.15672270]

>>15669001
>circumcised men can literally regrow foreskin by stretching out the skin over time
You can't regrow your foreskin. It's not just skin, it's complex specialized tissue, muscle, blood vessels, and nerve endings. That's like saying if your eye lids were cut off that you could "regrow your eye lids" by stretching the skin around your eyes.

[Anonymous No.15672276]

>>15672270
Okay, but you can still stretch out the extra skin of a circumcised dick until it grows out and covers the head. That's the only point I was making.

[Anonymous No.15672304]

>>15672276
You said "regrow foreskin"
You should say something like "stretch the skin that's left to make it look like foreskin"
If parents believe it's possible to just regrow foreskin later, they're more likely to allow their children to be circumcised. So I'm disgusted by anyone who suggests it's possible.

[Anonymous No.15672308]

>>15672304
That's fine, I'm just trying to point out that skin in and around the vagina can be stretched out over time.

[Anonymous No.15672558]

>>15668739
chemically castrating and mutilating children is actually inhumane

[Anonymous No.15672816]

>>15671182
>better hygiene
no, it's even worse by the damage of the tissue, generating in babies a very excessive after care which in turn can cause infection and death by babies being close to feces and pee, in adults the hygiene is worse by having lesser cells which encourage a clean environment, a cleaner entrance and area by pee flushing bacteria, the lack of foreskin making for smegma to get prickled onto the penis and being harder to clean, following this, smegma isn't a non existant problem if a person doesn't drink any milk products thanks to most excessive smegma being a waste of lactose which adult humans can't naturally process, in general the quantity of smegma on natural men is really small and cleans easily than in comparison to circumcised men, even with this this thing could be solved by running water and isn't a justification to mutilate an important part of the penis

[Anonymous No.15672819]

>>15672816
>>15671182
>Much less chance of disease
on the contrary, the foreskin produces langhern cells which kill hiv and other sexually transmitted diseases, the hard head of the circumcised penis caused by keratinization causes wounds which increase the rate of std's at ridiculous levels by making a direct access to the blood stream and by having a higher chance to break a condom and hpv is a thing which can be caused by simple sexual relationships which circumcised men can have so it isn't a point at all by affecting both types of men equally, following this, the aids study was made for an economical benefit, had a lot of biases by letting circumcised men have rest times which reduced their chance to have hiv, were shown and given condoms to use through all of the study and were from areas with less hiv, even with all of this the difference was 0.5% and in general the study only shows that condoms reduce hiv (which would exponentially reduce the rate even more if they weren't mutilated and had their natural protections and condoms), syphilis is based around contact which the rest of the penile skin and head is affected and penile cancer only happens thanks to a lack of hygiene, is really weird, only happens on old men, circumcision only solves 1 case in 144 and penile cancer is literally foreskin cancer, it would be like saying that we are solving throat cancer by cutting it, a lunacy statement.

[Anonymous No.15672822]

>>15672819
>>15671182
>>15672819
>last longer and like the sensation
first, that isn't true, in real studies natural men last more in bed by knowing when are going to ejaculate and doing the right things to stop ejaculation by having a pleasure metric to know how close they are and in general even without that they last the same on studies, following this, in studies which show the contrary, first they are studies based around small subsets and in general show that the difference is 20 seconds and this is with many biases in favor to circumcised men by being small studies made by an small group of men which can be selected, following this, women who say they like cut men better only had sex with uncut men, thus by ignorance bias they would choose what they have had on the past, in women who had sex with both natural and cut partners women who choosed natural partners had double the orgasm rate, had 200% less sexual issues and were more satisfied in general by extreme metrics, being 95% of the choice and even in the other 5% the women involved had better experiences with natural partners.
>nervous system
no, it isn't that the nervous system remakes the sensitivity, it doesn't remake at all, it just causes circumcised men to get a lesser part to get pleasure so they are forced into harsh movements to get any kind of pleasure thus hurting their partner, causing sexual issues and even wounds
adding to this, circumcision lowers dick size, causes erectile issues, generates pain by overstretches skin and causes the penis to be exposed to the outside, causing even less sensitivity and a hook like appendage which hurts the female, the procedure was made to destroy sexuality and to generate pain and that's what it does.
i know that this is bait but here's some real info for everyone to read.

[Anonymous No.15672825]

>>15672822
because it overstretches the remaining skin*

[Anonymous No.15672828]

>>15668674
it's 10000, it's a lot but it's an on par number to the clitoris.

[Anonymous No.15672839]

>>15672822
I don't know why you even bother talking to them.

people that perform or allowed circumcisions to be performed should all be in prison. there's nothing to talk about

[Anonymous No.15672872]

>>15668674
Back in the day they only counted the outside, but turned out there were more sensitive nerve endings on the inside too.

[Anonymous No.15672883]

they stole my fucking foreskin give it back

[Anonymous No.15672888]

>>15672883
they're all going to die of covid and the vaccines. just be patient.

we can figure out something after they die

[Anonymous No.15672904]

>>15668886
>HRT and bottom surgery doesn't have a negative effect like lobotomies.
Its much worse because you can still understand how much they fucked you up just so you could engage in flesh cosplay.

[Anonymous No.15672908]

>>15672057
N

[Anonymous No.15672953]

>>15668921
If we men took a stand and began to selectively breed out the beef curtain gene in one generation we would have made pussy actually worth it and fixed society. As it stands perhaps the one member of society genuinely more pathetic and helpless than the incel is the monstrous femcel. Plastic surgery doesn't really fix them either.

[Anonymous No.15672974]

>>15668061
>Cut off the skin that protects the sensitive part of the dick
That's like carrying a knife with a knifeholder.

[Anonymous No.15673229]

>>15672904
Like I told the other guy, the vast majority of women that get it don't regret it.

[Anonymous No.15673542]

>>15672822
they like cut men only had sex with cut men*
here's the typo fix.
>>15672839
i know, it's just that i like to give info so everyone who can read it and get something out of it.

[Anonymous No.15673548]

>>15672953
>gene
retard, that's on 45% of women when they are born, you would have to kill 50% of women to remove a thing which is even benefitial for sex and you think that it looks bad by literal kike media, there isn't enough skin tension for a woman to get increased labia from sex so the only reason 99.99% of women have labia is because they were born with it and for the other 0.1% is because they stretched it.

[Anonymous No.15673553]

>>15673548
45% of women*
i don't care if it's bait,

[Anonymous No.15673619]

>>15672974
Carrying a knife with a knifeholder sounds sensible and safe.

[Anonymous No.15673623]

>>15673548
If women can body shame men for their dick size, men get to body shame women for their labia size. Fair is fair.

[Anonymous No.15673644]

>>15672953
shit idea. Wouldn't work in reality. Do you think your dick looks just like your father? It doesn't. Genes don't work like that.