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/sfg/ - space flight general Anonymous Wed Dec 28 07:30:37 2022 No.15082622 [Reply] [Original]

Stoke edition

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>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 07:32:07 2022 No.15082626 File: 950 KB, 958x1196, rocketman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Glass the earth, demigod war eventually

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:04:55 2022 No.15082666 File: 448 KB, 612x1132, memer musk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] musk is too busy having fun posting memes on earth to be bothered with spacefaggotry anymore. its over for spacex

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:18:04 2022 No.15082683 >>15082666 Twitter is to Elon what Hinduism was to the Beatles

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:20:46 2022 No.15082685 File: 105 KB, 959x722, Apu postimerkkeilijä.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082622 FTS Archive https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=share_link

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:22:36 2022 No.15082687 >>15082683 I love the Beatles, especially John, this is my favorite song of his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5RuCEhHcG4

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:40:20 2022 No.15082709 >>15082666 Ya I think he has given up on mars

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:43:25 2022 No.15082712 >>15082709 We need to give up too, and find more realistic goals

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:50:47 2022 No.15082719 >>15082683 Sideways pussy is what broke up the Beatles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:53:39 2022 No.15082726 >>15082712 Nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:55:00 2022 No.15082729 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnDQo9YXCdU 35 mins till live

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:56:09 2022 No.15082731 >>15082666 rip to my 100k in stock from when I worked there as a tech

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:56:13 2022 No.15082732 >>15082726 oh you're such a tough guy huh

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:56:34 2022 No.15082733 >>15082666 >both Tesla/SpaceX are doing record breaking stuff >TWITTER is now running faster/better/cheaper with more active users than ever >NOOOOO ELON BAD HIS COMPANIES BAD111

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:58:06 2022 No.15082738 >>15082666 >>15082733 elon ain't doing shit there anymore dawg. mommy is running the show.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:59:14 2022 No.15082740 >>15082738 All the successes SpaceX/Tesla ever had are because of Gwynne you fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 08:59:37 2022 No.15082741 >>15082738 >NOOO ELON NOT DOING ANYTHING!!! >ITS BAD! ITS OVER!!!11234 >NOOO ELONS DOING SOMETHING!!! >ITS BAD!! ITS OVER!!!!2345

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:01:33 2022 No.15082745 >>15082740 spacex probably. mom has nothing to do with tesla though

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:02:07 2022 No.15082747 >>15082741 First off, 1) It is bad. Secondly, 2) It is over.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:06:47 2022 No.15082753 Lifters are weak. post real aeroplanes

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:16:13 2022 No.15082763 so what was with those weird starlink sats?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:20:31 2022 No.15082769 >>15082763 They glow

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:20:52 2022 No.15082771 >>15082666 You should see what kind of tweets he likes, twitter buyout was truly an ego thing for him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:21:07 2022 No.15082772 >>15082769 they were government?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:26:59 2022 No.15082775 https://youtu.be/0nEMDWv-pUk GET THE F*** IN HERE BROS ^^^^^^^^^

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:27:44 2022 No.15082776 >>15082729 MUSIC

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:29:09 2022 No.15082777 New intro?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:30:25 2022 No.15082780 60th LAUNCH THIS YEAR!!!! FUCKING INSANE

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:31:37 2022 No.15082781 >>15082780 59th

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:32:40 2022 No.15082783 >>15082781 T-4:56 Jesse said 60th launch this year

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:34:10 2022 No.15082784 File: 75 KB, 1095x627, 1672220040.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] snowing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:34:20 2022 No.15082786 >>15082783 Jesse, we need to cook

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:34:48 2022 No.15082787 File: 475 KB, 332x292, launch cat.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:35:11 2022 No.15082788 File: 40 KB, 1042x501, 1672220064.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lift off

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:35:53 2022 No.15082789 >>15082783 Lol did I miss one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:37:23 2022 No.15082791 File: 1.16 MB, 1228x688, output.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082788

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:39:27 2022 No.15082793 >>15082789 59 F9 and 1 Falcon Heavy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:39:41 2022 No.15082794 File: 122 KB, 1228x688, output2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082791

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:42:02 2022 No.15082799 >>15082740 Gwynne only builds rockets to get Elon to notice her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:42:07 2022 No.15082800 >>15082793 so much for 5 falcon heavy launches in 2022

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:43:52 2022 No.15082802 60 launches in a year, these retards did it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:44:09 2022 No.15082803 File: 1.27 MB, 1226x688, landing.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 159th landing F9/FH

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:45:35 2022 No.15082804 >>15082802 1 more tomorrow as well, before the end of the year

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:47:11 2022 No.15082806 Did they postpone this launch a whole half hour earlier? I set up to wake 5 minutes before the live started but almost missed the lift off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:49:56 2022 No.15082809 >>15082802 Did Musk specify 50 F9 launches or just overall launches?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:52:26 2022 No.15082815 >>15082683 Who was Yoko Ono?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 09:57:58 2022 No.15082820 >>15082809 50 launches this year was the original goal. Then they hit 52, then now hit 60. And possibly 61 tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:00:53 2022 No.15082823 >>15082793 0 Starship

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:11:33 2022 No.15082837 It really is over. Tesla stock keeps tanking and soon the board will force Elon to resign. Without that money, he won't be able to fund SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:13:54 2022 No.15082838 >>15082837 Tesla had weathered through worse. The current stock price is just over reaction. If stock doesn't improve, it means Tesla will likely buyback in a year or so once the economy continues to improve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:14:58 2022 No.15082840 The only good thing about the twitter buy was that it’s certainly eliminated most of the 1s that inhabited this thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:16:13 2022 No.15082841 >>15082838 ~$20+ billion cash in hand for Tesla right now. Their warchest grows each quarter as profits increase.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:45:36 2022 No.15082878 File: 231 KB, 500x500, 1643730817646.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082840 1s?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:45:50 2022 No.15082879 File: 14 KB, 474x227, OIP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082838 I still remember when Tesla was hemoraging money. There really was no way to sugar coat this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:47:33 2022 No.15082883 >another year of ZERO starship launches most people have given up and moved on at this point

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:49:07 2022 No.15082888 >>15082878 It’s an old meme from the heady days of 2020

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:51:11 2022 No.15082892 >>15082883 It's obvious that they'll launch it eventually. So why would one give up?

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:53:45 2022 No.15082901

>>15082879
Yep. Now they've become the most profitable car company. The scales of economies really paid off.

The current economy going into recession will be the main potential problem for Tesla (company), if any. If they weather through the recession, they'll become the top dog.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:56:20 2022 No.15082911

Also Starlink is set to become real profitable real soon. Given that they've surpassed the >1M customer mark. WIth an avg of ~$110/m, thats $1.3B per year in revenue run rate. Possibly, they'll get to 2-3 million by end of next year. Which will set them at ~$4B per year in revenue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:57:17 2022 No.15082913 File: 2.97 MB, 1000x452, Apollo 11 Crowd.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How many people will the orbital launch of Starship bring?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:58:05 2022 No.15082914 >>15082913 Given that its an orbital test in the middle of nowhere, probably couple thousands.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:59:38 2022 No.15082917 >>15082883 Everyones waiting for the big signs. B7 roll outs, final stackings, licenses, and then we get to the big day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 10:59:53 2022 No.15082918 >>15082913 100000 unironically >>15082914 there were more than that for sn8

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:04:25 2022 No.15082923 >>15082918 where would you fit 100k people in the area? the only good observing spot is a small town on a small island across the bay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:05:37 2022 No.15082928 >>15082913 I hope in like 50 years I will be able to watch some IMAX compilation movie of the first manned Mars mission.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:14:43 2022 No.15082942 File: 1010 KB, 1224x504, 12.13.51.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082928 That area is one massive flatland, finding a good spot won't be an issue. Here is the view from a trailer park on South Padre Island.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:19:32 2022 No.15082950 >>15082763 >weird starlink sats? qrd?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:24:00 2022 No.15082957 How come SpaceX met their number of launches goal but didn't meet their SS launch deadline?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:26:48 2022 No.15082962 >>15082957 The world is full of complexities indeed

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:28:21 2022 No.15082966 >>15082957 There are less schedule uncertainty in a well run production chain than for a breakthrough R&D programme

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:32:01 2022 No.15082971 File: 87 KB, 1041x694, 3-pia25437-3-roman-1041.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Soon

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:33:03 2022 No.15082973 File: 83 KB, 1041x694, 1-pia25436-1-roman-1041.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082971

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:34:07 2022 No.15082975 File: 151 KB, 1041x631, e2a-pia25439-1041.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082973 spec of dust on lower right filter

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:34:10 2022 No.15082976

>>15082957
Old system that runs its gauntlet
vs
Brand new vehicle, most powerful system in the world, more than 2X powerful as the next most powerful (SLS), brand new location, brand construction, brand new .....

The entire system is new for Starship, so there are lot of unknown unknowns

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:41:01 2022 No.15082993 File: 538 KB, 2048x1333, BaggerNight.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:48:32 2022 No.15083009 >>15082837 That's the autopilot hype deflating from the stock price. They are adding radars back into cars, which suggest they had no reason for the vision only optimism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 11:50:30 2022 No.15083013 >>15083009 I always though reducing the number of sensors and relying on cameras too much is stupid. Just because humans can do it doesn't mean adding radar and more cameras won't make self driving easier and more reliable

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 13:01:22 2022 No.15083153 The anons that have an issue with Musk and the whole Twitter situation, are the people he's making fun of. Cry more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 13:14:48 2022 No.15083185 >>15082683 Damn lol

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 13:18:53 2022 No.15083192

>>15082913
I want to watch it here with you guys.
;_;
Except I may pop outside for a moment in case I can see anything from over 300 miles away. I doubt it unless it's a night launch.
When it's the third or fourth launch, then I'll try going to South Padre to see it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 13:46:23 2022 No.15083224 >>15082913 I'm a Eurofag that's never gonna see a rocket launch

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 13:50:48 2022 No.15083228 File: 51 KB, 1067x294, daily dilation.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082622 space niggas be like

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 13:54:32 2022 No.15083231 File: 785 KB, 2048x1365, 1666662049770.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] KINO

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 13:54:59 2022 No.15083232 >>15082971 >>15082973 >>15082975 what is this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 13:56:21 2022 No.15083233 >>15083228 >he literally cut his dick off elon could've saved him...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 13:58:23 2022 No.15083235 File: 229 KB, 3000x2000, media_FJANLv_VIAABJwK.jpg name=orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083232 WFIRST getting ready for 2027 launch

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:13:05 2022 No.15083254 File: 43 KB, 411x418, frodo smug.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083235 >WFIRST Oh yeah the NGRS telescope

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:19:50 2022 No.15083265 >>15083254 Nancy Roman is white.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:21:00 2022 No.15083268 >>15082687 kek I love the yoko phase now

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:22:22 2022 No.15083271 File: 36 KB, 641x403, orca pepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083265 Good for her, I'm still calling it the NGRS telescope

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:23:08 2022 No.15083272 >>15082666 I think he may be on 5 layers of irony now

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:23:42 2022 No.15083274

>>15083009
>>15083013
No. Camera only got them so far and you see FSD driving around the city everywhere now with almost 1/3 of a million cars on the road driving it in the US. Its still not perfect yet, but thats more attributable to planning/training of the neural net rather than limitations of the camera itself. Thats not to say cameras dont have limits. They do. But with camera alone, they've solved bulk of the self driving problems so far.

They removed the low resolution radar they had from 2014+ because their old radar wasn't giving them good/accurate enough readings for self driving and camera was better than the radar, as proven by how far they've gotten so far without radar now. HD radar maybe added to augment the cameras to help with hard to see collision avoidances like potholes/snow covered roads but its still not needed for FSD v1. Maybe FSD v2 will use HD radar, maybe FSD v3 will use some other state of the art hardware/software, etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:24:01 2022 No.15083275 >>15082666 He was brainwashed by Zubrin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:25:25 2022 No.15083281 >>15083274 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q96i2vf8oA

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:25:42 2022 No.15083283 File: 27 KB, 455x553, Zubrin yes profile 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083275

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:28:53 2022 No.15083289 >>15083274 >>15083281 Driving is extremely not sensor limited. You don't need a radar. You don't even need as many cameras as they have. You can do a whole lot with just three cameras. https://youtube.com/watch?v=SUIZYzxtMQs

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:31:11 2022 No.15083290 File: 255 KB, 409x409, 1665085238631972.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083224 iktf

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:33:28 2022 No.15083294

>>15083289
You need cameras to see the side views so that you can turn left/right to change lanes. You also need angled camera views on front left/right side so that you can make left/right turns into oncoming traffic.

See the problem here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofzH22UlSHo

But 5 months later, that problem has largely been solved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V49YfI-__d8

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:37:05 2022 No.15083303 File: 438 KB, 1656x1041, STS029-02-002-xx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Daily reminder that oldspace hardware was topkino and is never coming back.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:37:31 2022 No.15083305 >>15082738 sadly i don't think Gwynne is very interested in Mars either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:38:51 2022 No.15083306 >>15083224 >>15083290 RFA is launching from Andoya, Norway next year so if you're really desperate, you can go there. Another option is moving to the United States.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:43:08 2022 No.15083312 >>15083306 Why so high? Launching something in polar orbit? The closest thing I have is PLD space in 2023 but they are launching suborbital and who knows when the orbital version.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:43:55 2022 No.15083314 >>15083289 >Driving is extremely not sensor limited. wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:45:30 2022 No.15083316 >>15083314 LMAO

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:45:46 2022 No.15083317 >>15083312 >Why so high? Launching something in polar orbit? Yup, it's pretty much the only European launch site if you want to go to orbit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:46:42 2022 No.15083318 >>15083306 >Norway might as well go to Florida then

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 14:58:32 2022 No.15083333 elon musk behavior is incredibly dangerous to our democracy. at any cost he must be silenced, or face reputational damage on a scale he cannot comprehend

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:00:39 2022 No.15083336 >>15083318 Don't complain then

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:02:54 2022 No.15083343 >>15083333 This but unironically. None of this shit would have happened if Starship, FSD, or Neuralink had made real progress in 2022. He's going to be forcibly distanced from his pet projects very soon Nice quads btw

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:10:12 2022 No.15083358 File: 177 KB, 1478x1039, 1672240164521.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083333 >at any cost he must be silenced If the Mars dream dies, we can finally focus on practical matters

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:13:53 2022 No.15083361 File: 41 KB, 807x659, 1530677940762.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >15083333 Yes, we know your butt is still sore from those Tesla shorts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:21:40 2022 No.15083372 Is launch 61 going to be the one with the modified Starlink v2 sats?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:23:02 2022 No.15083373 >>15083372 https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/12/spacex-starlink-5-1-launch/ Launch 60, the one which just happened, is

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:29:49 2022 No.15083386 File: 19 KB, 550x350, 1671802961180734.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082741 Consider that it may, in fact, be bad and over.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:33:52 2022 No.15083390 >>15083228 ew

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:38:19 2022 No.15083399 >>15083373 Oh damn, I saw a short description that just said there were 54 sats on that launch and assumed it was v1.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:41:19 2022 No.15083406
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>>15083303
It’s actually pretty staggering how similar the hardware has looked from Mercury to Shuttle (granted they were only like ~20 years apart if you think about how the shuttles were originally built in the late 70s and flew until the 2010s) Even after the glass cockpit upgrades a bunch of the switches and knobs were original hardware. I was looking at pictures of the lunar module the other day and was blown away by how similar it looked to the cockpit of the shuttle

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:42:08 2022 No.15083408 why is elon beating dead horses on twitter every fucking day

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:43:57 2022 No.15083414 >>15083358 Even if Mars was terraformed, how would humans live in such a low gravity environment?

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:46:24 2022 No.15083419
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>>15083406
lunar module instrument unit. By the way I’ve been trying to find out more info on the X-meter (?) instrument. It’s the square display seen here at the top right. I think it have velocity readings but I’m not quite sure how it worked

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:46:29 2022 No.15083420 >>15083414 They can't. This was proven by the many orgies conducted by Gerard O'Neill and his students at Princeton

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:47:41 2022 No.15083424 >>15083406 the green CRTs are so cool vgh

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:55:15 2022 No.15083435 >>15083406 shuttle is responsible for killing the spaceflight progress

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:58:22 2022 No.15083441 I'm looking forward to deepspace small sat missions. Imagine 100s of deepspace small sats being launched every week by starship. We will survey the entire solar system like never before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 15:59:53 2022 No.15083444 File: 892 KB, 1242x915, 78429E38-D9A4-45F7-91C3-24B9D2A6039E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >the thread has already devolved into incessant shitflinging This again?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:00:06 2022 No.15083445 >>15083435 >Starship kills hundreds of people We just need to accept it! It’s part of normalizing space flight!! >Shuttle kills 14 people WHAT UGH THIS IS A FAILURE HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN NASA LIED PEOPLE DIED

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:02:39 2022 No.15083452

>>15083445
>>Shuttle kills 14 people
?? I never said anything about this. Shuttle should have had a much *higher* flight rate. People will die in the pursuit of spaceflight, this has to be accepted. Every year 50,000 die from road accidents, we don't just stop production of all cars.
Memento Mori, mon ami.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:04:51 2022 No.15083456 >>15083445 14 people died for the purpose of pee experiments in LEO

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:05:29 2022 No.15083458

If I was the NASA admin :
Retire ISS as soon as possible : 80% of the time is spent on maintenance.
Before retiring, conduct important experiments such as : sex in space, chimp reproduction, baby development, etc. Send a team of underwater welders and evaluate their EVA performance. My theory is that they are much better suited for this task. (Science and maintenance astronauts should require separate skillsets.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:06:42 2022 No.15083461 >>15083458 Cancel SLS as soon as Starship reaches orbit. Negotiate Starship price down to $50M/launch and then order atleast 100 launches. This will give SpaceX enough capital to mass produce.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:07:55 2022 No.15083463 >>15083461 Bring down the cycle time of deep space missions. Instead of sending to venus probes in 2031 (?!), send 2 probes every cycle. Iterate and learn. We must send at least one probe to every body every transfer cycle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:08:08 2022 No.15083465 File: 37 KB, 1258x164, furry sfg prediction.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will the Furry Prophecy come true?

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:09:28 2022 No.15083468

>>15083463
Finally, taking so long to reach gas giants is simply unacceptable. Gravity assists should be completely banned.
Instead use the SLS funds to start a fast-transit program to create a working nuclear thermal rocket by the end of this decade. Scientists should be able to send their payloads to jovian region with not more than 1 year of transit time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:10:55 2022 No.15083469 >>15083441 Highly recommend reading this for any anons working in the small sat industry : https://www.nasa.gov/smallsat-institute/sst-soa

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:11:16 2022 No.15083472 >>15083452 Shuttle is just such a shitty design there was no way it wouldn't take a few lives

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:32:14 2022 No.15083512
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>>15083419
It gives you the forward velocity relative to the lem on the vertical plot and the lateral velocity on the horizontal plot. It was used for landing. I think it used radar and inertials

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:35:08 2022 No.15083522 File: 909 KB, 1248x1868, 2b2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083458 >conduct important experiments such as : sex in space, chimp reproduction, baby development

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:36:35 2022 No.15083529 >>15083522 its been 60 years since we went to space. we still don't know simple things about our body. How can we have millions of people living and working in space if we don't solve reproduction?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:40:11 2022 No.15083539 >>15083420 Then why is everyone obsessed with Mars?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:41:00 2022 No.15083541 >>15083458 >>15083461 Retards, projects like ISS and SLS are mandated by Congress.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:41:37 2022 No.15083543 >>15083529 You fucking retard, you want to risk condemning a child into either having deformities or straight up having a horrible death just to satisfy your fantasy of space colonization?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:42:57 2022 No.15083546 At this point, its all but guaranteed that there'll be a shareholder vote to remove Elon from the company. This is the beginning of the end.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:45:43 2022 No.15083550 >>15082666 Why does Elon dislike Islam :(

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:46:00 2022 No.15083551

>>15083546
Assuming you're referring to SpaceX (who the fuck cares about Tesla), not gonna happen.
>The MSS filing reveals that as of late July 2022, Mr. Musk held a 42.3% stake in SpaceX, and in addition to this, his shares also allowed him to hold voting control of 78.2% of the company's outstanding stock.
>https://wccftech.com/elon-musks-spacex-stake-drops-slightly-even-as-he-gains-more-voting-control/

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:46:30 2022 No.15083554 >>15083550 he likes bacon and beer

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:46:45 2022 No.15083556 >>15083543 that is why we first try with chimps. Please read the post again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:47:28 2022 No.15083558 File: 20 KB, 351x351, 1640819946848.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083333 >>15082666 >>15082837 >>15083408 >>>/r/enoughmuskspam

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:51:17 2022 No.15083566 >>15083558 This is Musk general

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:51:34 2022 No.15083567 >>15083551 Not SpaceX, Tesla. He can't be dethroned at SpaceX, since he controls voting majority. Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:52:20 2022 No.15083569 >>15083550 Because it's a degenerate religion

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:55:58 2022 No.15083576 Ah great. Now Elon says he's non-binary. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1608143077910233098 As if 2022 didn't give enough drama.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:56:02 2022 No.15083577 >>15083529 We don't even know anything about animals in 0g

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:57:17 2022 No.15083579 >>15083576 >I’m not cis, you are He means he's normal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:57:33 2022 No.15083580 >>15083543 children are not innocent

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:57:48 2022 No.15083582 >>15083577 exactly, so we should do that as soon as possible. With chimps, not just mice. von braun would be so disappointed by what we have achieved.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:58:40 2022 No.15083583 remember the good ole days when tweets like this were few and far between

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:59:33 2022 No.15083584 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1608145311347707905 Referring to spacex as "they" instead of "we". Looks like he is no longer involved.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:59:52 2022 No.15083585 >>15083567 Who the fuck cares about Tesla?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 16:59:56 2022 No.15083586 >>15083550 Elon is le classical liberal faggote

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:00:15 2022 No.15083587 Is it true that that nasa astronaut woman had a mental breakdown and kept destroying the toilet and intentionally losing tools and other destructive behaviors?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:01:18 2022 No.15083590 >>15083543 A small price to pay for knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:01:31 2022 No.15083591 >>15083587 we will never know, because according to american space journalists, astronauts are flawless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:02:15 2022 No.15083592 >>15083585 SpaceX/Tesla have parternships you faggot. All the battery packs and motors used to control Starship/SuperHeavy aero-surfaces are Tesla products. There's a lot of cross-polination of talent between SpaceX & Tesla. Ripple effects.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:02:56 2022 No.15083595 File: 167 KB, 1204x622, ape cage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083582 >With chimps Good luck wrangling them in free fall, try rhesus monke first

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:04:08 2022 No.15083597 >>15083595 yes, anything bigger than a mouse. Then if these experiments are successful, we try with a human.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:04:50 2022 No.15083598 File: 34 KB, 657x527, 1658688379688761.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082415 first try gg ez https://iss-sim.spacex.com/

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:09:40 2022 No.15083605 >>15083585 Tesla and SpaceX materials engineering team are literally the same

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:10:19 2022 No.15083606 File: 51 KB, 730x304, Close Encounters mo ship 7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083597 What if mouse babby is all fucked up? Then what, Steinmetz?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:10:53 2022 No.15083607 >>15083587 Yes, it's called being on your period

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:13:37 2022 No.15083612 >>15083606 then we work on rotating stations. This time, all rotating station proposals were rejected by the commercial lunar destinations selection team. That would change.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:16:23 2022 No.15083616 >>15083606 >Steinmetz founded America's first glider club, but none of its prototypes could be dignified with the term flight. kek wiki is hilarious sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:17:14 2022 No.15083617 File: 41 KB, 499x338, 1338985362785.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083584 referring to SpaceX Falcon team

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:17:35 2022 No.15083621 >>15083605 How does that work? Aren't the owners of the two companies completely different?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:24:05 2022 No.15083625 File: 483 KB, 594x699, elon_wink.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083621

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:27:26 2022 No.15083628 >>15083598 Nice. Good job anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:31:03 2022 No.15083635 >>15083617 Everyone knows Elon steals all the credit (yet again).

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:31:39 2022 No.15083640 we are launching on a falcon 9 transporter next year, so many fucking deadlines. I am going to burn out soon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:41:03 2022 No.15083657 File: 133 KB, 980x653, 068C43BD-0638-4B3B-8E31-4D903FB2182A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:41:13 2022 No.15083658 >>15083635 Everything positive is not happening s Everything negative is his fault

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:44:22 2022 No.15083663 >>15083657 The boomer simply can’t into space without the presence of an overwhelming amount of extra info that needs to be memorized so he can complain that millennials don’t put in the hard work he has

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:48:52 2022 No.15083668 File: 41 KB, 1590x1016, 60 falcons.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Almost there, they just need the 12/30 launch to not get delayed to achieve 60 Falcon 9 launches this year.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:55:35 2022 No.15083673 File: 76 KB, 680x687, astro feel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083657 >Why Because you want to fly the fucker, not just be passive cargo

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:55:52 2022 No.15083675 is it finally over for the ISS? Will it get decommissioned before it crumbles to bits or is NASA determined to have it kill several astronauts when it fails?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:57:08 2022 No.15083677 File: 679 KB, 926x1004, 1672250211289.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083657 What does this lever do?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 17:58:21 2022 No.15083679 >>15083675 what happened?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:00:05 2022 No.15083681 >>15083677 Ask that Virgin Galactic test pilot

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:05:16 2022 No.15083692 >>15083657 BASED. Fucking spacex with their faggy touch screens. Fucking tesla with their faggy touchscreens and unusable yokes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:09:59 2022 No.15083700 File: 49 KB, 1184x499, alien analog aa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083692 The Nostromo is peak bridge aesthetics

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:13:43 2022 No.15083710 >>15083692 I like Dragon but I really do hate the touchscreen shit. Maybe if it was only part of the controls and not the totality I'd feel differently.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:15:57 2022 No.15083714 >>15083657 Is this shuttle?

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:18:11 2022 No.15083720
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Great launch this morning. From the edge of Orlando I witnessed the ascent, a faint jellyfish, and the quite-distant recovery burn. Not a cloud in the sky.

Night launches are the best.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:19:07 2022 No.15083721 >>15083663 >millenials are too stupid to remember 50 buttons

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:19:50 2022 No.15083725 >>15083679 Nothing. Just someone constantly jerking ItS oVeR into official dead meme status.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:21:59 2022 No.15083728
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>>15083700
You need buttons. I don't understand this push against them.
Especially for things like cars and aircraft. You want the security, the peace of mind that comes with a physical button.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:22:11 2022 No.15083729

>>15082800
It was the customers who failed to have the payloads ready in time, not SpaceX. I've noticed customers for large payloads (those that require FHs) rarely make them in time. I think its because the customers still use old space techniques on these payloads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:26:12 2022 No.15083738 >>15083714 lol I can’t tell if you’re joking or serious but it’s Starliner

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:27:18 2022 No.15083740 >>15083728 Is this the Serenity bridge?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:29:33 2022 No.15083746 >>15083728 It also gives you the added bonus of not feeling like you're going to space in a flying Apple store.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:34:02 2022 No.15083754

>>15083675
It won’t fail catastrophically any time soon, it’s just getting more and more expensive to upkeep every year. But for whatever reason both republicans AND democrats fucking love it. And I don’t think it has anything to do with congressional districting—they just have a limited knowledge of space and think it’s cool that we have a big station so they keep telling NASA to extend it more and more instead of a) focusing on replacement(s) and b) killing it to free up a ton of money and resources for other projects

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:36:56 2022 No.15083758 >>15082901 Nobody wants evs except liberals and musk has alienated them

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:37:55 2022 No.15083760

>>15083754
It's less about practicalities and more about maintenance of our international alliances. "Not looking cheap in front of our European and (new!) Russian partners" was the only way it got funded in the first place. Once we've got Gateway to keep our allies in their proper places and have started on a commercial designation or two for getting real work done support for keeping the ISS around will dry up quick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:38:19 2022 No.15083761 >>15083657 If capsule was fucked would any of the buttons/switches help?

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:40:01 2022 No.15083765
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>>15083657
because buttons and switches are always in the same place and will not lie to you or hide behind garbage UI when you need them. Touchscreens will never feel like physical stuff. Simple as.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:40:58 2022 No.15083767
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>>15083740
It is, yeah.

>>15083746
Back in the early 2000s most touchscreens came with haptic feedback. Apple really lead the way in getting rid of it.
With how ubiquitous touchscreens are, it's for the best. But haptics is what you need in a $2.2billion dollar spacecraft that could kill you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:43:21 2022 No.15083770 File: 85 KB, 1024x674, john-aaron-a12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083761 yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:51:22 2022 No.15083780 >>15083770 SCE to WEGAAN

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:51:40 2022 No.15083781 >>15082957 >>15082976 Has the FAA given their stamp of approval yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:52:46 2022 No.15083783 >>15083781 2 weeks

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:52:56 2022 No.15083785 >>15083770 I love how they had a switch in the capsule and pretty much everyone was like “wait what the fuck is this even for?” lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:53:00 2022 No.15083786 >>15083781 2 months

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:53:17 2022 No.15083787

>>15083765
One plus touchscreens have is that you can kill a faulty one and cover with redundant screens. If the function is behind one physical switch it better be aerospace grade with paper trails for each gram of matter sourced. Operating under any kind of duress touch screens ofc suck donkey dick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:54:13 2022 No.15083789 >>15083781 Abolish the FAA

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 18:57:58 2022 No.15083796 File: 125 KB, 1024x683, 21314782411_b71c7e7402_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083303 The Dragon capsule really is sovlless by comparison

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:07:27 2022 No.15083809 >>15082806 >postpone >earlier Thank you for raising my IQ by pulling the average down. Your sacrifice will be remembered.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:11:51 2022 No.15083817 >>15083809 I fucked up the translation

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:14:38 2022 No.15083819 File: 1.09 MB, 3000x1688, Soyuz TMA interior.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083303

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:23:12 2022 No.15083831 File: 160 KB, 1166x1500, Apollo 11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082913 best fucking movie EVAH

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:23:22 2022 No.15083833 File: 2.87 MB, 700x392, 1666306113876.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ria was unfortunately vaporized after being invited to watch Starlink Group 5-1 at SLC-40 when the Falcon9 rocket took off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:24:44 2022 No.15083835 >>15083787 You could really have both for that matter. Switches for main use and a touchscreen option as fallback, if you have big enough screens like the Orion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:24:49 2022 No.15083836 >>15083833 That's a man

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:31:50 2022 No.15083841 >>15083836 And you believe that this matters why exactly?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:33:11 2022 No.15083845 >>15083841 I'm just stating my observations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:35:19 2022 No.15083847 File: 145 KB, 577x433, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083543 >want to risk condemning a child into either having deformities or straight up having a horrible death just to satisfy your fantasy of space colonization? Yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:47:07 2022 No.15083869 >>15083710 #meToo , I think it looks too sterile and boring, lacks character.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:47:49 2022 No.15083872

>>15083406
>>15083419
The VISIBLE hardware is similar, mostly because NASA has a standardized design language and ergonomics. Buttons and switches need to be easy to read and actuate in clunky suit gloves. Everything operating beneath the panels was vastly different between generations though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:48:38 2022 No.15083874 >>15083819 now this is cozy

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 19:57:38 2022 No.15083889 Gemini Guidance Computer was more sophisticated and advanced compared to the Apollo Guidance Computer. Weird but yeah; after all development of it starter after the Apollo one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:07:37 2022 No.15083917 File: 198 KB, 3000x2000, FlDxKfYaMAEHw7N.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They actually achieved 60 missions in one year. The absolute state of every other space launching organization...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:11:28 2022 No.15083923 File: 95 KB, 1126x375, SFG predictions.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:13:23 2022 No.15083926 File: 354 KB, 440x254, mr-bean-wave.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083923 Hey, that's me!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:16:29 2022 No.15083934 >>15083819 Do any HQ shenzhou pics exist?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:19:12 2022 No.15083942 File: 179 KB, 1280x853, Shenzhou-10 interior.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083934 Most are from the early 2000's so they're pixel soup, but some HQ images exist. This one's from Shenzhou-10 Looks about the same, maybe slightly larger

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:24:31 2022 No.15083949 >>15083942 Yeah Shenzhou is slightly bigger than Soyuz. Also they just increased next generation crew capsule’s size by a few feet, as it’s still in the development phase (and probably will be for a long time)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:25:38 2022 No.15083953 File: 1.83 MB, 1146x765, 2B5C5B73-F7A4-4276-99EF-3803DB829477.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:27:50 2022 No.15083959 File: 139 KB, 900x629, 131E1495-D888-4652-9E36-99A01CBEF133.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So what happens if you accidentally drop your flight stick in a baseduzhou type vehicle, are you just fucked?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:28:53 2022 No.15083963 >>15083959 Fuck I should have seen that filter coming

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:29:19 2022 No.15083966 >>15083959 You die

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:35:14 2022 No.15083975 >>15083959 you wait 3 months for the 2$ aliexpress replacement

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:35:53 2022 No.15083978

>>15083228
Bogdanoff no...
Screenshot aside, any industry that requires a college degree to advance far will have a lot of leftists unfortunately. That is just how things are with the nature of the current regime in America. At least Elon is center-right and not far left.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:37:09 2022 No.15083979 >>15083889 everything I can find says this isn't the case. Source? I do love gemini though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:39:31 2022 No.15083986 >>15083959 soyuz has a pokey stick too. I believe it's tethered to your hand so you can pick it back up if you drop it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:41:31 2022 No.15083992 do the chinese have their own saturn V/ soyuz/ arianne 5 that's not just a knockoff but a proper in house rocket to be proud of

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:43:55 2022 No.15083997 >>15083986 Yeah my post was supposed to day söyuzhou as a cheeky combination of the two, but I got filtered lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:45:54 2022 No.15084002 >>15083668 They already achieved 60 launches

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:48:56 2022 No.15084007 >>15083992 Saturn V? No one has that. Soyuz? Long March 2F. I wouldn’t be ‘proud’ of it, it’s just a hypergolic beginner’s rocket. Ariane/Atlas/-ish? Long March 5. LM5 is fucking kino and does some heavy lifting. Although it doesn’t fly too often

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:53:36 2022 No.15084015 >>15084002 One of them was FH

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 20:56:04 2022 No.15084022
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>>15084007
I wouldn't say that the LM-2F is a beginner's rocket. It's in the same weight class as the Ariane 4. The real beginners rocket is something like the LM-2C. That thing's been flying since the early eighties.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:01:42 2022 No.15084027 File: 633 KB, 1679x2224, 1651012351356.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hop when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:08:48 2022 No.15084038 >>15084027 july 2021

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:12:25 2022 No.15084047 File: 659 KB, 1833x2048, FMbzbPAaUAEWV7b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084038 Orbital hop with splashdown off the coast of hawai when? Or is that of the table, has been a while since i lurked on /sfg/

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:12:42 2022 No.15084049 >>15083675 I'd propose a new space station made of thicker stainless steel which would require less maintenance and have a longer lifespan

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:15:39 2022 No.15084051 >>15082687 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1RA411i7sZ/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:17:19 2022 No.15084053 >>15084049 Having a 5cm thick wall vs a 2,5mm thick wall give about the same amount of protection from micrometeorites. Or do you want to build a battlestar?

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:20:00 2022 No.15084055

>>15084049
The parts that are currently breaking down were originally constructed by soviet engineers in the 1980s to be used as the core of Mir-2. When your parts only start breaking down almost forty years after they were built and after over two decades in space you don't need to worry about achieving a longer lifespan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:24:15 2022 No.15084062 >>15083923 The good old days of being called a doomer for saying humans won't land on Mars before 2030

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:25:54 2022 No.15084068 >>15084062 I chose to believe. I chose wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:26:27 2022 No.15084071 >>15084055 A ~25 year lifespan is atrocious for infrastructure, especially for space infra considering how expensive it is to "install"

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:29:13 2022 No.15084074 File: 368 KB, 1832x926, 1618033626007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083761 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:29:22 2022 No.15084075 >>15084055 as the other guy said 25 years for basically a static part isn't that good. (inb4 heat cycling) Personally I think making it out of thicker stainless steel will reduce cost and increase lifespan

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:29:59 2022 No.15084077 File: 67 KB, 952x654, orb 2 full 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084053 I want to build a Death Star

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:32:41 2022 No.15084082 >>15084077 I want the space station to basically be a bunch of cylinders connected into a long cylinder space station. Simplest and lowest cost.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:33:12 2022 No.15084084 >>15083959 >are you just fucked yes, cannot use penis instead because velly smarr

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:34:08 2022 No.15084087 >>15083677 I believe that's the GTFO abort handle

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:34:25 2022 No.15084089 File: 567 KB, 2048x1350, 1663052172550977.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084047 alternate landing zone

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:37:35 2022 No.15084098 File: 2.82 MB, 2367x2849, dqsfdqsd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084089 Wait, is the FAA stil cockblocking spaceX?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:40:39 2022 No.15084107 >>15084089 that Starship isn't going to land

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:41:20 2022 No.15084109 File: 18 KB, 620x410, breakout-classico.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084074 >breakout

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:44:26 2022 No.15084117 Unironic estimates for first human landing on Mars? At this pace I fear it's going to be NET 2031 or 2033,,,

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:46:56 2022 No.15084121 >>15084117 considering the lunar landing is happening in '27 I'd place the Mars landing 10 years after that so '37

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:48:42 2022 No.15084124 File: 94 KB, 1217x784, sls mars fly by.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084117 Landing is colonialism, just enjoy the many fly bys

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:49:05 2022 No.15084125 >>15084074 >history eraser button I wonder what kind of filthy porn an astronaut looks at

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:49:55 2022 No.15084129 >>15084125 probe insertion manouvers

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:50:52 2022 No.15084131 File: 1.21 MB, 745x743, 1670287431627770.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084089

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:52:51 2022 No.15084136 >>15084098 It’s not, it’s just cope

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:04:14 2022 No.15084155 File: 32 KB, 800x400, download.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084117 >>15084121 >'37 NET '38 launch window + 6 months in transit is my guess

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:07:51 2022 No.15084164 File: 20 KB, 400x480, 1671290979947831.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Free Mars

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:08:57 2022 No.15084167 >>15084164 Don't mind if I do!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:09:18 2022 No.15084168 >>15084164 I'll take three!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:16:26 2022 No.15084182 >>15084164 I don't know what he did, but free that nigga.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:18:06 2022 No.15084186 >>15084168 >free as in freedom, not free beer (there will also be free beer)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:23:07 2022 No.15084202 >>15084164 Dusters will just get annexed by the Ceres Empire.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:30:20 2022 No.15084216 File: 135 KB, 800x1376, Moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084164 Inshallah, brother.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:31:26 2022 No.15084218 >>15084164 Mars and the other planets feel non existent at times in the UC gundam timeline, always found that strange.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:34:40 2022 No.15084224 >>15084164 Rustoids will be subjects of the earthen empire, those who resist will be sent to earth for gravitational rehabilitation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:38:21 2022 No.15084229 File: 18 KB, 190x623, martian lanklet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084224 Imagine a prison camp full of those freaks passing out when they try to stand up lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:38:33 2022 No.15084230 >>15084224 >earthen empire You mean Theian Empire, E*rth will not longer exist by then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:40:23 2022 No.15084234 I missed the launch

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:43:36 2022 No.15084239 >>15084230 >theians Rightfully under the empire’s feet, forever imprisoned by the holy ground

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:45:40 2022 No.15084244 File: 3.73 MB, 600x467, llsvp.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084230 VGH.. what could've been..

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:48:19 2022 No.15084249 File: 67 KB, 686x812, shuttle telescope station.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084230 >Theia > muh Big Whack theory Just cause astroonomers say some bs doesn't make it true

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:50:27 2022 No.15084250 >>15084224 >earthen empire Luckily the Lunar Industrial Federation prevents such an abomination from arising by diligent upkeep of the Kessler cloud

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:50:58 2022 No.15084252 >>15084249 How was the moon made then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:52:07 2022 No.15084255 >>15084244 Theia is 2 years younger than the crust because of time dilation

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 22:54:16 2022 No.15084260 File: 25 KB, 328x482, Who Built the Moon - Christopher Knight, Alan Butler.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084252 Its humans using a time machine to ensure our own existence

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:02:56 2022 No.15084273 >>15084244 Are those red parts besides the core supposed to be remnants of theia?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:04:14 2022 No.15084277 >>15084273 That's one of the hypothesis about what they are, at least.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:07:57 2022 No.15084286 >>15084260 based schizos

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:09:04 2022 No.15084288 >>15084260 It's a little weird how the moon eclipses the sun so nicely.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:11:43 2022 No.15084291

>>15084277
From what i have read about the theia impact theory is that earth was pretty much a spicy hot liquid ball from the impact, you would think in that scenario that all the heavy parts would have sunk to the core, not entire continent sized chunks surviving.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:12:42 2022 No.15084295 >>15084288 The moon used to be in a closer orbit to earth so it's entirely coincidental

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:14:27 2022 No.15084297 File: 73 KB, 522x739, 1959 Time magazine Boris Artzybasheff space moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084288 Its a pretty sweet job on our part, yes. >>15084295 No dumbass, we timed it to happen when we would arise

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:15:53 2022 No.15084299 >>15084297 what for

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:19:05 2022 No.15084303 File: 70 KB, 420x682, time machine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084299 you can't dick around with stable time loops - what was observed is what must happen

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:19:25 2022 No.15084304 >>15084291 Melt and diffusion of a pre-densified, pre-differentiated ball of core melt probably takes a lot longer than the Earth's existed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:20:36 2022 No.15084309 >>15084299 Looks cool

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:23:00 2022 No.15084312 File: 959 KB, 1280x720, 1611429178828.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084288 Reminds me of this

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:26:25 2022 No.15084320 File: 744 KB, 1280x720, 1611429283166.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084312

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:26:54 2022 No.15084321 >>15084312 No denying that our moon is pretty much the perfect moon from what we know so far. But more like we got really lucky and most of the universe is death because they dont have a rock like the moon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:28:31 2022 No.15084322 File: 715 KB, 1280x720, 1611429314818.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084320

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:31:21 2022 No.15084327 File: 689 KB, 1280x720, 1611429346355.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084322

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:36:59 2022 No.15084334 File: 372 KB, 1280x720, 1611429378344.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084327

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:37:14 2022 No.15084335 File: 93 KB, 680x607, Imagine fighting for Vanu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084320 >>15084322 >>15084327 >>15084334 >schizo numerology

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:40:31 2022 No.15084339 >>15084335 What's schizo about it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:47:00 2022 No.15084347 >>15084339 mistaking basic trigonometry for number magic. Many such cases.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:47:03 2022 No.15084348 File: 493 KB, 1200x670, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084339

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:47:33 2022 No.15084350 File: 57 KB, 800x618, earth moon michell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084327 I'll note that 2160 years is 1/12th of Earths precessional cycle, the length of which is set by the Moon and Sun

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:47:54 2022 No.15084351 >>15084335 The absolute state of /sfg/ and /sci/ as well sadly

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:49:48 2022 No.15084355 >>15084347 But I didn't say anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:49:49 2022 No.15084356 >>15084347 If their claims are true, though, why do the earth moon and sun have those particular proportions? In particular they can be constructed fairly quickly with just compass and straightedge methods.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:50:53 2022 No.15084357 >>15084356 >why do the earth moon and sun have those particular proportions? what did he mean by this

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:54:53 2022 No.15084365 >>15084357 Actually I’m mainly thinking of the video which was about the moon and earth, and the 345 triangles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 23:58:18 2022 No.15084367 >>15084356 The elves did it because it was funny. Every other inhabited world also has a bunch of freaky "coincidental" geometric relations between itself, any satellites or nearby planets, and its star. They consider this hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:08:06 2022 No.15084383 >>15084356 Humans have the largest breasts, asses and cocks relative to body size ¿Coincidencia?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:08:26 2022 No.15084384 >>15084121 SpaceX's mars program won't be dependent on the artemis program lol. >>15084117 NET 2029, 2031-2033 likely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:09:14 2022 No.15084386 >>15084335 Then explain why those proportions appear in nature

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:26:25 2022 No.15084410 >ThE nUmBeRs, WhAt Do ThEy MeAn A bunch of numbers happen to line up. That's nice, but it doesn't do anything or reveal any deeper truths. Trying to derive significance from them is just a downward spiral of cultish nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:27:24 2022 No.15084412 >>15084320 >>15084350 The earth isn't even a sphere

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:28:30 2022 No.15084416 >>15084386 jews ofc

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:29:32 2022 No.15084418 >>15084410 But why do they line up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:30:08 2022 No.15084420 >>15084418 What difference does it make if they do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:31:03 2022 No.15084424 >>15084410 t. dumb dumb telling Mendeleev to knock it of with that periodic table schizobabble

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:31:13 2022 No.15084425 >>15084420 I just want to know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:31:51 2022 No.15084430 >>15084418 They don't line up. The lines used in the figures are at least hundreds of kilometers wide relative to the planet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:35:12 2022 No.15084438 >>15083306 No way RFA launches next year

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:39:38 2022 No.15084449 >>15084438 It does seem unlikely. 2024 wouldn't be an unreasonable date, but they just don't seem far enough along in their test campaign to get to the pad next year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:45:22 2022 No.15084463 >>15084449 If they make it to then (institutional support makes that seem likely), 2024 is my guess, though I wouldn't rule out 2025.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 00:55:25 2022 No.15084494
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>>15084463
Their official launch date is Q4 2023, which is the quietest way of admitting to launching in H1 2024. Their second stage is currently getting ready for test firing and they've got a main engine testing run coming up early next year. They'll probably get to the pad in 2024 if they only hit the usual problems. 2025 would mean they found an issue that merited a significant redesign.

The good news is that Vega is still fucked for the foreseeable future which leaves a big opportunity for more prospective clients to arrive with funding.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:00:57 2022 No.15084508 https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/12/top-us-launch-companies-of-2022-the-ars-technica-power-ranking/ rank em, /sfg/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:01:09 2022 No.15084511 >>15084494 I didn't realize they were already saying Q4 2023. I knew they did some engine and build tests, but I missed the flight hardware. Yeah I think Vega shitting the bed will ensure that Europe keeps at least one 1-ton launcher afloat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:03:59 2022 No.15084519 >>15084508 >Number 2: United Launch Alliance They launched 8 times in 2022 lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:04:08 2022 No.15084521 >>15084508 Lel just remembered the “Insiders” and “actual engineers” who said Vulcan was due to launch Q3 2022 and that it would shock musk fanboys

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:05:45 2022 No.15084526

>>15084521
>the company continued its record of 100 percent mission success. In this sense, it remains a rock-solid alternative to SpaceX for the Department of Defense, which has prioritized redundancy in access to space.
at least read the damn article

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:06:49 2022 No.15084528 >>15084526 meant to quote >>15084519 >>15084521 everything gets delayed in spaceflight. starship didnt launch this year either

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:07:01 2022 No.15084529 >>15084508 >SpaceX >ULA >Rocket Lab >Northrop Grumman >Virgin Orbit >Firefly >Blue Origin >Relativity Space >ABL Space >Asstra As usual, Eric is spot on here. No edits necessary

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:07:42 2022 No.15084531 >>15084526 >MUH 100% SUCCESS RATE It’s the only metric keeping them alive. Vulcan will fail

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:07:49 2022 No.15084533 >>15084529 >Virgin Orbit forgot they existed honestly

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:07:52 2022 No.15084534 >>15084526 I did faggot I was just reminded of certain retards who were bullshitting online. Relax

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:09:27 2022 No.15084542 >>15084529 No Ariane :(

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:09:31 2022 No.15084543

>>15084508
SeX>ULA>RL>massive power gap>Relativity>BO>Firefly>ABL>NG>VO>Asstra
Virgin Orbit at 5 is a joke. They are silently nearly as fucked as Astra, having been bailed out by Virgin multiple times in the past few months. And I'm not even sure how to properly rank NG since they're not competitive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:10:14 2022 No.15084546 >>15084526 >100 percent mission success Reminder that Falcon 9 Block V has a 100% mission success as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:11:15 2022 No.15084550 >>15084508 I’d really be shocked if firefly and astra survive to 2025. I know they’re technically partially successful right now but they seem to be stumbling into that success and I don’t see a serious future for them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:11:17 2022 No.15084551 >>15084542 American launch companies

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:11:17 2022 No.15084552 >>15084543 more like SeX>massive power gap>ULA>RL>relativity everything after is irrelevant

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:11:49 2022 No.15084553 File: 558 KB, 472x834, TilingProblem.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] also notice how bad the tiles in the pic look

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:25:41 2022 No.15084589 >>15084553 Tfw metallic cooling was abandoned for THIS

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:26:26 2022 No.15084590 >>15084553 Us shittle bashers knew this was coming

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:28:46 2022 No.15084594

Speaking of ranking space entities, what about national space agencies?
I think there are two main groups, the "big 6" (NASA, pockocmoc, ESA, CNSA, JAXA, ISRO) and the rest. In the former, the number one by faaar both historically and in present day is NASA. Number two, after a large gap, would be disputed between Russia, China, and Europe, depending on what metric you value the most (e.g. rocket launchers, human spaceflight, space probes, science, budget and capability, future potential, etc etc). Russia has been pretty much rotting this last decade while China can't stop growing. At current pace, and disregarding private industry and musky's company, I believe they have a chance at becoming number one within the next two decades. Of course, if NASA just stays stagnated and doesn't do much more. Then, after another gap, there's India and Japan.
For the rest of the world I think having an independent access to orbit is the main criterion for ranking them, there aren't that many prominent space agencies/countries that don't have their own launchers anyways. After the big 6, and laarge gap, you'd have, in no particular order, Ukraine, Iran, Israel, South Korea, North Korea, Canada, and UAE.
I wouldn't know where to put European agencies like that of France, Germany or Italy, for they are already part of ESA. I suppose immediately after the big 6 hmmm

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:28:56 2022 No.15084596 something something carcinization but with shuttle

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:30:02 2022 No.15084597

>>15084550
Someone will probably buy Astra for their ion engine division. Firefly is healthy enough to keep going for a while until they run into Northrop's buyout endgame. I actually think Virgin Orbit is going to be the one to go under first. They're burning through money fast, they don't have many clients, and they have no real way to grow their launch system.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:31:02 2022 No.15084600 >>15084596 you mean like convergent evolution?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:41:30 2022 No.15084615 File: 48 KB, 441x587, re entry wrong.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084553 the tile arc...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:46:41 2022 No.15084630 File: 131 KB, 1152x1152, 1497284621195.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Starship will never launch. They're only now realizing the tiles were a bad idea and just don't have the guts to scrap it all. It's ogre.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:46:58 2022 No.15084632 File: 37 KB, 599x358, crab.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084596 convergent thought or plagiarism?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:47:32 2022 No.15084633 File: 34 KB, 596x381, philip bono pegasus pilot pod 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:49:29 2022 No.15084640 File: 66 KB, 850x613, Roy Gjertson shuttle station a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:49:34 2022 No.15084641 >>15084597 I keep forgetting virgin isn’t already dead. Maybe the English will prop them up for a bit with GALACTIC BRITAIN but their economy isn’t exactly the most vibrant right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:52:53 2022 No.15084650 File: 88 KB, 755x585, Shuttle Into Space d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:53:24 2022 No.15084652 Whats wrong with custom tiles if they don't need inspected every flight"

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:53:34 2022 No.15084653 >>15084553 Starship tiling will still always be more simple compared to shuttle tiling due to having a more simple body.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:54:52 2022 No.15084656 >>15084632 They aren't making starship more like shuttle. Sure, they have a few more unique tiles, but at the same time they are making the flaps even smaller, which makes it less like shuttle.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 01:55:53 2022 No.15084661

>>15084652
There is a contingency of people on sfg who love the shuttle and SLS and think starship is doomed to fail who will doom over every tiny thing and act like starship is becoming more like the shuttle even when that is patently false. >>15084656

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:01:22 2022 No.15084672

>>15084641
I think Britain's real mood can be measured by how little enthusiasm there was to fast track Virgin's launch license paperwork. They'll get the one launch next year for the headlines and then just let the chips fall where they may. Skyrora and ABL are both planning to launch from SaxaVord, so it's not like Britain needs Virgin to have something they can call a domestic launch capability.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:09:59 2022 No.15084694 File: 23 KB, 226x218, 2D3E6B87-9DDA-486F-A2BC-C5A7B84466B0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084508 >Blue Origin 3 spots above Astra

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:20:04 2022 No.15084714 When should we expect the announcement of the awards for the commercial stations contract?

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:30:12 2022 No.15084728

>>15084594
Roscosmos has a great past, but is very decadent nowadays. CNSA is growing very fast but they still have some path to go. ESA is pathetic with human spaceflight, but has done very good science and has decent rockets. I'd put ESA as the second and CNSA as a close third place that might surpass them.
For JAXA and ISRO, I think ISRO wins with their rocket launches, but JAXA wins for the science they have done.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:33:06 2022 No.15084732

>>15084533
They were 2/2 in 2022. I'd be surprised if they were able to sustain operations for more than another year or two given their uninspiring trajectory, but when they crater they're an attractive acquisition target. Maybe NorGru will pick up LauncherOne as a cheaper Pegasus replacement?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:35:29 2022 No.15084733 >>15084594 >NASA >... >CNSA >... >Pockcockmock >ESA >JAXA >... >ISRO

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:37:40 2022 No.15084736 >>15084733 Soon ISRO will be above JAXA sir

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:38:34 2022 No.15084737 >>15084733 >JAXA above ISRO wat

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:42:12 2022 No.15084741 >>15084737 Hayabusa2 is one of the best missions of the past decade

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:43:39 2022 No.15084743

>>15084732
Unlikely. There's no unique IP to Virgin beyond a launch system that can't scale up. L1 costs less than Pegasus but it's still expensive when you compare it to other vehicles in the same weight class, and Pegasus' business model has been dead for years. Buying out Virgin would just be adding a lot of debt to get a rocket who's payloads would prefer to fly as a rideshare on Alpha, which is probably going to end up a Northrop product at some point anyway.

I actually think that Virgin will go under before Astra does.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 02:46:18 2022 No.15084747 >>15084736 >>15084737 >>15084741 Like I said here >>15084728 , ISRO has the better rockets but JAXA has the better missions.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:03:53 2022 No.15084774

>>15084743
>business model has been dead for years
Air launch still has one killer advantage over tradlaunch, which is not needing a launch pad. This market is still untapped because Pegasus is too expensive and VO business development is too immature to properly develop it. NG can successfully sell this capability to launchlet ally states, a valuable niche that justifies a couple $100M acquisition. Lockheed is backing ABL for exactly this reason

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:05:56 2022 No.15084779

>>15084743
the funny thing about Launcher One and Pegasus is that the most attractive thing about air launched rockets is the ability to launch a payload to orbit out over the ocean in secret when nobody is watching. Which is kinda hard when you turn your carrier aircraft into a giant billboard that everyone knows about and anyone can track.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:06:58 2022 No.15084781
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>>15084774
This is such a stupid fucking meme. On par with “my space plane can land on any runway in the world!”
It looks good on paper, but you still have to carry equipment on the plane and launch within very strict parameters. A better meme rocket would be something like a long march 11 (or more appropriately a DF-31) that could launch off the bed of a truck from any parking lot

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:10:25 2022 No.15084788 >>15084781 Air launch is attractive for states with shit geography and states with undeveloped launch infrastructure, not for muh responsive launch capability

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:24:39 2022 No.15084808 >>15084781 air launch has two valid uses: >>15084779 and >>15084788 but it's not gonna take off unless someone can figure out how to make a modular launch system that can do picrel out the back of a C-130

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:27:00 2022 No.15084812 File: 50 KB, 677x569, USAF_MMIII_C5_airdropOct_1974.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084808 forgot the fucking picture

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:27:54 2022 No.15084817 File: 609 KB, 601x558, Kek.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15083465 >Pic rel

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:28:43 2022 No.15084819 File: 142 KB, 680x381, AB51B906-9471-48B4-A8EE-3E25431F40A7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084812 I’m sorry but I fail to see how this is any better than just launching out of a tube. Air launch is stupid and I won’t budge on this

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:32:29 2022 No.15084827 >>15084812 >>15084819 >Can launch anywhere at any time >Enemy has no idea if the plane is just a cargo plane or a launch vehicle >I don't see the purpose in this bruh

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:35:27 2022 No.15084836

>>15084788
Astra and ABL both worked on developing launchers in a box, and some of China's new solid vehicles are deployed from the same road-mobile launchers that their ICBM cousins are flying from. You don't need a plane to have a responsible launch capacity from some backwoods location.

There's also the fact that there aren't any clients with a clearly defined need for this. The military is interested in the idea, but they're "interested" in a lot of shit.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:35:47 2022 No.15084837
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>>15084819
The Russians did this once. It's called Start-1. It's an orbital converstion of an RT-2M Topol.

They also built submarine-launched carrier rockets. They even cold launched them, while the subs were submerged. Shtil'.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:36:27 2022 No.15084841 >>15084827 Maybe his point is that you could also do the same thing from a small portable launcher on the deck of a ship? But air launch is still better because it's rapid, inconspicuous, and can happen at altitude

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:39:09 2022 No.15084846 >>15084841 You can do it, as Makyeev did it, from the launch cell of a Delta-IV ballistic missile submarine. Somehow it went perfectly fine. Launched a german microsat - Tubsat. П-29 Штиль

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:45:42 2022 No.15084857 File: 299 KB, 1167x1198, DC-X-Fourth-Flight-McDonnell-Douglas-NASA-photo-posted-on-AmericaSpace.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i miss him

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:49:23 2022 No.15084864

>>15084841
>rapid
This had yet to be proven with either Pegasus or Launcher One. You could design a responsive system, but the only air-to-orbit rocket that's been built so far that was capable of rapid deployment was the ASM-135 and that doesn't actually get up to orbital velocity.

>inconspicuous
It's kinda hard to have an "inconspicuous" launch when every orbital launch shows up with ICBM launch warning satellites. The only country that tries for stealthy launches is North Korea and every time they launch something it always ends up in your newsfeed within twenty-four hours. Even China publishes NOTAMs for their launches these days, even when they're not talking about them beforehand.

>can happen at altitude
This isn't a real advantage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:52:42 2022 No.15084874 >>15084864 Since you're already refuting air launch greentexts, take a stab at these >useful for states with shit geography >useful states with undeveloped launch infrastructure

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:55:59 2022 No.15084882 >>15084874 See this anon’s posts: >>15084781 >>15084819

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 03:58:58 2022 No.15084889

>>15084874
Countries that meet those qualifications seem perfectly happy buying conventional commercial launches from preexisting spaceports. I was wondering for a while if someone like the UAE might be interested in buying Virgin, but Launcher One's capacity seems too small for the price tag that would come with it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 04:03:28 2022 No.15084899

>>15084882
>launch out of a tube from a parking lot
Works great if your state borders an ocean in the direction you want to launch, not so great otherwise

>>15084889
Yeah, the UAE is the ideal buyer. You're right though that as long as the US keeps playing global cop, "ally" states will be nearly as willing to launch defense payloads on US launchers from US soil as on US launchers from home soil. But I think the difference in messaging/prestige will be enough to be worth it for the UAE

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 04:20:47 2022 No.15084944 >just land Starship horizontally bro Gunnerson is off his rocket somebody stop him lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 04:21:14 2022 No.15084947 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UCep40YAjxk Most kino eager kino in a while.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 04:21:49 2022 No.15084948 >>15084944 *rocker ironic typo though >>15084947 hivemind

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 04:30:58 2022 No.15084980 >>15084944 gunner gunnerson? It's about your son, gunner gunnersonson

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 04:40:54 2022 No.15085012

>>15084899
It hard to get prestige from a launcher that doesn't fit the needs of your payloads. The UAE's communication satellites are all big six ton birds up in geostationary orbit, most of their earth imaging satellites are a bit too big for L1 to put into SSO, and the rest of their fleet is 1-3U cubsats which would be better flying on a rideshare launch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 04:41:57 2022 No.15085015 >>15084944 He’s right unironically

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 04:42:50 2022 No.15085018 are there any good games with an /sfg/ element? (not ksp)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 04:57:09 2022 No.15085054 >>15084944 As a glider with no payload or fuel I bet it has a better glide ratio than shuttle. I honestly don't know why they haven't considered it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 05:00:09 2022 No.15085061 >>15085018 Terra Invicta comes to mind. Basically, Illuminati factions fighting each other and aliens for the fate of the Earth, with orbital mechanics for solar system colonization and space combat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 05:01:09 2022 No.15085065 >>15085061 is that the really spergy one with barely any graphics that scott manley likes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 05:04:24 2022 No.15085076 >>15085054 Mars autism

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 05:21:37 2022 No.15085108

I’ve asked before but I don’t remember getting an answer: if Neutron really is a big deal why is Beck even bothering with Electron reuse? Just finish your contracts with e- and get n° flying asap. I feel like this shit won’t actually be ready before 2030.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 05:40:33 2022 No.15085155 >>15085108 just because you're developing a better rocket doesn't mean you can't develop reusability techniques and save some money while you're at it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 06:10:17 2022 No.15085201 >>15084652 Just more EDS from the usual suspects.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 07:23:29 2022 No.15085316 Anyone want to raid a server?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 07:29:06 2022 No.15085323 >>15084553 Special tiles are only a small percentage of all tiles. And you can see a lot of repeats in that image. Starship tiles are smaller, easier to produce, and easier to replace than Space Shuttle's.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 07:31:58 2022 No.15085326 >>15084553 >put woman in charge >things go downhill Shocked.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 07:36:29 2022 No.15085331 >>15084553 >DrChrisCombs opinion discarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 07:41:36 2022 No.15085340 >>15085316 I still have "Common Sense" Skeptic's discord but I think it's dead

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 07:54:53 2022 No.15085348 >>15085340 Kek haven’t thought about him in ages. I wonder how he, thunderp00f and spaceguy5 are handling their musk derangement syndrome these days?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:00:54 2022 No.15085354 >>15085348 Thunderf4g is doing perfectly well using his followers as paypigs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:03:04 2022 No.15085355 >>15085348 They're probably having aneurisms lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:07:28 2022 No.15085362 >>15085348 Probably happier than a pig in shit now that Tesla stock is finally dropping.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:16:56 2022 No.15085371 >>15085362 Still means nothing given Tesla is still worth ~$353B, bit of fall from ~1T, but if you were to go back to 2016, they were only worth 30 B.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:17:53 2022 No.15085373 File: 44 KB, 659x475, Screenshot from 2022-12-29 18-47-07.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15085362 Thunder5isters... TSLA is recovering What's our next move?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:19:42 2022 No.15085375 >>15085371 It’s funny how much press coverage it’s getting. Makes certain motives very obvious

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:22:44 2022 No.15085378

>>15085373
Tesla's P/E is 34 now. Forward looking P/E is 20. Thats pretty low for a tech company. But for a car company, its bit high. Toyota has forward looking P/E of 10. However Toyota isn't growing 50% YoY. They're shrinking. Tesla's profit already matches Toyota, even though Toyota produces 10x more cars.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:24:00 2022 No.15085383 >>15085378 If Tesla executes well for the next year or so, their valuation will go up once more to 600+B easily. Maybe even 1T+ in 2 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:24:54 2022 No.15085384 >>15085378 They really need to improve QC on their American factories desu. It’s embarrassing that the Chinese made teslas are of a higher quality these days

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 08:27:47 2022 No.15085389

>>15085384
The meme is just stale. Q/C is similar to other car makers in US now. But with Texas ramping up and Fremont reducing more parts and increasing automations, the Q/C will match that of China. They brought the entire Chinese Q/A/Automation team to Fremont and Texas few months ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 10:22:10 2022 No.15085488 >>15084594 CNES was one of the "big one" from ~1980-2000 or so, independently of ESA.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 10:46:50 2022 No.15085505 >>15082685 cute

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 10:49:19 2022 No.15085507 >>15085505 You too ;)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 11:27:46 2022 No.15085530 File: 13 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084553 >Columbia Houston, comm check. >.. >Columbia Houston, UHF comm check >.. >...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 11:31:32 2022 No.15085534 File: 833 KB, 1482x833, rvx_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084857 This is him now, feel old yet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 11:39:56 2022 No.15085541 >>15085530 Perhaps they turned the radio off

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 12:09:27 2022 No.15085565 >>15085530 You don't understand, anon. Coming back to Earth is for losers. Either you conquer space or you get the Viking funeral.

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 12:14:28 2022 No.15085571

>>15084553
Shittle tiles were 100% unique, even on the bottom where it looks like bricks because of all the crazy curves and having no gaps because spess-grade aluminum will burn up so fast.
SS tiles are mostly three or so sizes of hexagons plus the home plates. The ones around the wing edges are just chopping up a regular tile with a saw. Pic cherry-picks the worst edge. Gaps are fine because steel, and unlike Shittle, they don't have a one holy vehicle that they can't fuck up. They're planning on splashing the first few anyhow, and they'll have plenty of cameras so you doomers can see it not be a big problem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 12:17:17 2022 No.15085574 >>15085541 Maybe they're in the toilet

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 12:17:32 2022 No.15085575 >>15085571 >Shittle tiles were 100% unique a quick google search says that most Shuttle tiles were unique, but that there are also a few thousand tile that aren't unique

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 12:32:15 2022 No.15085592 >>15085575 Holy shit Elon btfo

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 12:59:25 2022 No.15085621 >>15084553 How did this retard become a doctor? Over 90% of tiles on Starship are the same, while for shuttle it's the opposite.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 13:26:38 2022 No.15085651 >>15084553 why didn't they just mount the flaps behind the big cylindrical core? That way the hinges would stay protected

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 13:43:45 2022 No.15085667

>>15085108
Presumably for the same reason SpaceX finished Falcon Heavy instead of just waiting on Starship. There's going to be a lot to learn from the process that will save trouble with the next LV and the increased capability will help operations right now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 13:58:43 2022 No.15085687 >no hop since SN15 At this rate Jarvis will reach orbit before Starship

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:01:18 2022 No.15085689 >>15084553 >>15085571 >>15085621 He has a bad case of Elon derangement. He doesn't even raise an eyebrow any more at going from "some unique tiles" to "basically like the shuttle" because marxist indoctrination has displaced truth in his core values.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:02:33 2022 No.15085693 Road is closed what are they doing today? I guess the options are B7 rollout or B9 rollback or both.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:04:09 2022 No.15085695 >>15085693 Booster 9 testing

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:10:45 2022 No.15085708 >>15085695 I see

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:24:28 2022 No.15085720 >>15084632 >Saitanization that just confirms Shuttle was the work of the devil

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:30:20 2022 No.15085732 File: 218 KB, 2801x2121, 1672324229346.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15085720 Don't tell /pol/ about this

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:30:45 2022 No.15085733 File: 349 KB, 1436x750, ss_80349e6690d2957ac9a6eb80e0f6d5a3e3f1ced8.1920x1080.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15085018 You played "Children of a Dead Earth"? In fact everyone here should play it if they haven't already

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:31:20 2022 No.15085734

>>15085687
Pfffft at this point Terran 1, Terran 2 with Aeon Rs, and Terran R will all fly, Bezos will buy out Relativity in a lucrative multi-billion dollar deal, and he will just take Terran R and put it on a New Glenn and that becomes the New Jarvis (it’s that easy in rocketry) all before Starship makes it 10m above the ground again

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:45:04 2022 No.15085759
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>>15085720
>Shuttle was the work of the devil
I believe it, remember it killed 3 men before it even launched
>During a countdown test for STS-1, a pure nitrogen atmosphere was introduced in the aft engine compartment of Space Shuttle Columbia to reduce the danger of an explosion from the many other potentially dangerous gases on board the orbiter.[36][37] At the conclusion of the test, pad workers were given clearance to return to work on the orbiter, even though the nitrogen had not yet been purged due to a recent procedural change. Three technicians, John Bjornstad, Forrest Cole, and Nick Mullon, entered the compartment without air packs, unaware of the danger since nitrogen gas is odorless and colorless, and lost consciousnesses due to lack of oxygen.[38] Several minutes later, another worker saw them and tried to help, but passed out himself.
>Bjornstad died at the scene; Cole died on April 1 without ever regaining consciousness, and Mullon suffered permanent brain damage and died on April 11, 1995, from complications of his injuries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-1#Pad_fatalities

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:47:33 2022 No.15085765 >>15085733 Are there any alternatives to CoaDE?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:48:34 2022 No.15085766 >>15085759 You do realise people dying during decade long Development and building project is just normal? .

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:48:36 2022 No.15085767 >>15085759 > Need Another SiX HUNDRED SIXTY SIX Astronauts

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 14:55:33 2022 No.15085783 File: 19 KB, 500x300, exorcist .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15085766 t. Saitanist

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:01:36 2022 No.15085794 >>15085766 >is just normal When was the last time you died?

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:13:52 2022 No.15085804

>>15085794
>>15085783

A few deaths are perfectly within acceptable margins when we're talking about decade-long rocket development and building works lol.
Like say just for Ariane, Ariane 5 had 2 (nitrogen anoxia) deaths during a test back in 1995, Ariane 6 had a death during some early SRB development involving HTPB in 2013 and a construction worker death in 2016

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:16:33 2022 No.15085807 File: 24 KB, 400x200, apoc now evil place.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15085804 this just tells me that ESA also practices human sacrifice

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:23:58 2022 No.15085819

>>15085807
SpaceX had a fatal accident at McGregor back in 2014 and a raptor development severe injury (month long coma) a few months ago.

>Since 1980, at least 24 workers (mainly technicians) have been killed while at work in the space industry while many more have sustained injuries that were never reported or are not classified as space industry accidents in the data.

It's just normal

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:31:35 2022 No.15085836 >>15085819 There has never been a non satanical spaceflight death.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:33:04 2022 No.15085839 File: 255 KB, 790x605, oomerlaunch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15085804 >expendable humans can we expand this for astronauts too?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:36:40 2022 No.15085843 File: 141 KB, 960x960, 24x3hkkprfi118.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] cool hexagon

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:37:22 2022 No.15085845 >>15085839 >expendable astronauts they should be, reusing them makes no sense economically speaking. you'd have to fly them at least 10 times for it to be profitable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:38:25 2022 No.15085846 >>15085836 the two 1967 X-15 and 2014 SS2 deaths must have been pretty cool ngl.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:41:56 2022 No.15085852 They should simply blend the tiles up into a paste then paint the outside of Starship with that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:42:07 2022 No.15085853 >>15084779 the supposed advantage of air launch is weather avoidance. You can fly above any storms, though I can't think of an instance where Pegasus actually did that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:45:18 2022 No.15085857 >>15085852 There is no paintable liquid capable of withstanding reentry reusably.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:47:18 2022 No.15085861 >>15085804 sometimes to make an omelet you have to kill a few people

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:52:52 2022 No.15085873 >>15085857 Really thick, tile-impregnated vantablack paint. It'll work

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:54:08 2022 No.15085878 Could they use ring-shaped tiles in Starship?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:54:15 2022 No.15085879 File: 47 KB, 668x497, fur q.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15085861

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 15:56:08 2022 No.15085882 >>15084812 I refuse to believe the soviets did not do some similar tests desu. There were way too many similar proposals in the 90s using commercialised soviet icbms to not have some at least serious studies and preliminary work behind it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:18:44 2022 No.15085942 >>15083414 Who says they can’t? 40% the gravity of the Earth should be sufficient for normal human development. People may be taller and probably more fragile bones, but tech is advancing and even those issues would be temporary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:39:59 2022 No.15085988 >>15085759 this makes me want to watch for all memekind

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:04:45 2022 No.15086032 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCep40YAjxk I wonder if they could put wheels on it too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:11:24 2022 No.15086044 >>15085852 >>15085873 Realistically speaking could this work?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:12:53 2022 No.15086049 >>15085378 >Tesla's Lathrop facility >Tesla's soon to online Corpus Christi Lithium Refinery >Tesla's soon to online Cathode Facility in Nevada/Kansas region >car company Right...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:14:35 2022 No.15086053 stage it ffs

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:15:54 2022 No.15086057 >>15086044 Maybe, they should try it and find out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:17:48 2022 No.15086060 >>15086044 No because >>15085857 Any 'vantablack' paint will contain a liquid binding agent that is not compatible with extreme heat multiple times.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:34:52 2022 No.15086086 Stage >>15086085 >>15086085 >>15086085

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:40:25 2022 No.15086099

>>15086060
Just to play devil's advocate (because vanta black requires carbon nano tubes which would make it cost prohibitive, and I don't know if those would just burn at these temps) but in theory you could use a volatile solvent as your wetting agent and bake it away to be left with a coating, though probably a very brittle one.

It would be interesting to see them try vapor deposition to grow a thermally protective coating on the steel skin, imagine building a vacuum chamber to do a whole super heavy at once.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:46:03 2022 No.15086105 Official /sfg/ theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTB7mBr1K3s

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 17:55:44 2022 No.15086132 >>15083408 Too much Elon derangement syndrome is annoying tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 18:05:32 2022 No.15086155 >>15083796 It needs some extra bottons with white and blue colors

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 18:17:03 2022 No.15086188 File: 2.03 MB, 1280x720, starship launch.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15084131

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 18:45:33 2022 No.15086239 >>15083224 Salvation is available, even to Euroids (cf WVB)

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 18:57:10 2022 No.15086260

>>15083013
Humans can drive, but it's often difficult and people still have accidents despite the fact that their own lives are at stake.

It makes sense to try to first match what humans can do, because it's obviously possible, but stopping with human-equivalent performance is a bad idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 19:01:54 2022 No.15086272 >>15083414 centrifugal force if necessary nothing if not necessary genetic modification if necessary and possible

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 19:03:13 2022 No.15086273 >>15083445 Killing people was by far the least of the shuttle program's sins. Debate me. I will defeat you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 19:04:46 2022 No.15086277 >>15083465 I can't read this, but it says your gay

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 19:06:51 2022 No.15086285 >>15083543 start with monkeys, apes and other large non-human primates

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 19:07:54 2022 No.15086289 >>15083550 Why shouldn't he?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 19:08:35 2022 No.15086292 >>15085988 God season 2 takes so fucking long to get good, and what the fuck were they thinking when they came up with that Karen and Danny plot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 19:42:48 2022 No.15086391 >>15085804 >>15085819 Astra removing the legs of a CEO of a contractor was not normal though

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