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Gingerbread Curiosity edition
Previous: >>15074705

>> No.15079209
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>>15079199
>was I saw first
Sorry, hungover. Kek, I ruined another Christmas dinner by refusing to hide my power level, why does no one ever ask me about space?

>> No.15079225
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god bless you all

>> No.15079230
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No other space station or orbiter had ever been as comfy as Skylab

>> No.15079236

>>15079230
I long to live in the ball

>> No.15079237

>>15079230
Starshiplab will be great.

>> No.15079242

>>15079225
>1977
He saw the unrealistic spaceflight in star wars and died of cringe

>> No.15079243

>>15079225
cringe fake quote

>> No.15079251

>>15079237
Honestly, it could work.

>> No.15079256

>>15079187
Kek

>> No.15079262

>>15079237
I guess it could be a great way to develop the life support systems needed for a Mars trip, plus they get contracts to send astronauts there for research.

>> No.15079274

>>15079243
Enjoy hell, atheist

>> No.15079295

>>15079274
>implying
Not what I was saying. The amount of "the" in that quote is made up to make him seem like Ze Very German Nazi guy

>> No.15079304
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>>15079295
lol

>> No.15079309

>>15079304
The alternative designs were probably safer and more innovative.

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>>15079309
the the bottom one?

>> No.15079330

DICKLESS DIMON
GET WELL SOON

>> No.15079331
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>>15079206
FTS Archive, missed the mark edition
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=share_link

>> No.15079346

>>15079330
Lmao Kelly has already dug into his “I am pro LGBTQIAJDKAKDKFJAJS+!” position, but I know he’s just foaming at the mouth to make a dickless dimon joke

>> No.15079366

>>15079236
deltavee is stored in the balls

>> No.15079367

>>15079118
very based post

>> No.15079378
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>>15079318
This one

>> No.15079380

>>15079318
Ahhh yes, the “smell you alive girl” configuration

>> No.15079383

>>15079366
isnt delta vee a pony spaceflight web comic?

>> No.15079387

>>15079380
technically the shuttle is inside the gastrointestinal tract, since the engines are at the bottom. all the poop has to be eaten by the shuttle (human centipede style) and excreted out again

>> No.15079392

>>15079378
This would tip over. Would it kill NASA to make something symmetrical / balanced?

>> No.15079400

>>15079392
https://youtu.be/1IQy5O6OyuA
This vid might explain what they had in mind.

>> No.15079403

Good evening /sfg/, check out this amazing spaceflight documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAGuYr3hpR4

>> No.15079415

>>15079403
what country do you live in

>> No.15079429

>>15079403
elon likes it so it's dogshit
he has terribly shallow taste

>> No.15079438

>>15079429
reddit tier derangement

>> No.15079440

>>15079429
I would worry if he liked something else than pop shit. Could mean he wastes time on discovery.

>> No.15079442

It's been too long since the last launch. /sfg/ is starting to ferment.

>> No.15079443

>>15079438
NTA but spaceballs is reddit tier goyslop. I actually hate it more than Star Wars itself

>> No.15079447
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>>15079429
>>15079443
Real chads enjoy Armageddon

>> No.15079452

>>15079443
Tell us what part hit too close to home, playing with figurines?

>> No.15079454

>>15079452
I hate toys

>> No.15079465

>>15079454
big man, wouldn't want to mess with you

>> No.15079466

>>15079452
It reminds me of Star Wars and it's extremely low effort. It's like a long form SNL skit. Despite its low effort it's still too much time and energy on a topic I don't care enough about. Maybe if I really REALLY hated Star Wars or REALLY loved Star Wars, I could handle a shitty movie-length parody.

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>>15079242
As cool as some of the designs were for the series, the absolute "FUCK YOU" Star Wars has for actual spaceflight physics is astounding. It would've been interesting to see ships basically B-hopping with bursts of thrust on gasless bodies like the death star, but no.

>> No.15079470

>>15079443
>goyslop
back to /pol/ retard

>> No.15079472

>>15079470
hello fag.

>> No.15079478

>>15079470
>they went to plaid
hahahaha youre right anon, it's so fucking funny

>> No.15079480

>>15079466
Admittedly, asides from a few jokes and scenes like John Hurt reprising the chestburster scene in a space diner and moviewide jokes like the druids being Jews, Spaceballs wasn't really that memorable; I still think it was a pretty solid parody.

>> No.15079482

>>15079468
Star Wars was always supposed to be an adventure movie with a space coat of paint over it, so I'm fine with it.
People whine about sound in space, but few notice how the ships move as if they were on air or water instead of space.
Curiously, the first movie mentions orbital mechanics when the Death Star is approaching Yavin IV, but that's about it.

>> No.15079484

>>15079438
why do you get so defensive about me speaking objective truth?

>> No.15079486

>>15079484
your kind has polluted 4chan with bullshit like this, you only think this is true

>> No.15079488

>>15079482
i guess there is some nod to it in the new movies with the retarded hyperspace tracking gigantic battle ship and fleet that have to chase the rebel fleet by constantly accelerating even tho it doesnt make any sense if you think about it for 2 seconds

>> No.15079489
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>>15079331
3 envelopes and 3 postcards from the USSR, 1971-1985
These have an advantage over stamps: as they're much larger they can fit far more detailed art on them

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=share_link

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>>15079489
The three other envelopes and postcards are two 10th Cosmonautics day envelopes & stamps, and a Voskhod-2 20th anniversary postcard

>> No.15079492

>>15079488
I don't know, so far I haven't bothered with the disney bullshit

>> No.15079496
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>>15079491
And a Soyuz-9 25th anniversary postcard.
On the P. I. Belyayev postcard, I had no idea he died in 1970, only at age 44 from peritonitis

>> No.15079498
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imagine growing corn on mars

>> No.15079504
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>>15079498
Looks tasty.

>> No.15079506

>>15079486
have you ever seen him mention a good piece of media? me neither

>> No.15079508

>>15079506
Here's another objective truth, you're a faggot.

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>>15079488
Legends has involved black holes and the core worlds (i.e. Byss) are a lot harder to jump to because of the proximity to the galactic black hole or what not, so the writers actually kinda tried to give a shit back then.

>> No.15079521

>>15079488
iirc Hyperspace is supposedly another dimension with corresponding coordinates to the real world. Hyperdrives are basically just teleporters into another dimension.
It's also somewhat connected to gravity, since blackholes and more massive objects make it increasingly difficult to jump to hyperspace.
One explanation for the tracker system in the new movies was that it's basically an radar system permanently in hyperspace, which allows them to see any nearby objects which appear in the dimension. It's still not explained in the movies very well, so stick to the books and comics if you want an explanation for things

>> No.15079547

>>15079504
I was just thinking how plants will evolve differently in 0.3g. Certainly thinner stems because they need to hold less weight. Also infrequent reminder that animals have never been bred in space for some mysterious reason

>> No.15079553

>>15079521
I can tell you without a doubt they didn’t care to explain it, if we’re just talking about the movies. I don’t expect them to either. As the other anon said: it’s just a space texture pack over a ‘hero’s journey’ story at its core. I’m sure the extended universe goes into it, and fags have compiled it on wookipedia.
Star Trek is a little more scientific about how they explain some things, but anything from TNG to ENT has had the problem of trying to be scientific while also not trying to retcon things established in TOS (i.e. “dilithium crystal” hand waiving instead of some other plausible mechanism) TOS was 60s schlock but it’s still good and everything up until ENT at least took a stab at approaching scientific stuff. On a surface level though. At its core even Trek is just a space texture pack slapped over “the human condition” storylines. Plus anything after ENT is gay as fuck and doesn’t care about science at all

>> No.15079557

>>15079547
Not trying to be a pseud but you’re thinking of evolution in the wrong way. Natural selection isn’t “this is the most efficient therefore I will make this change”

>> No.15079561

reminder that fish type propulsion will be the preferred type of locomotion for all creatures in 0g

>> No.15079564

>>15079557
thinner stems give a competitive edge

>> No.15079569

>>15079561
doesn't work that well in air

>> No.15079586

>>15079553
Star Trek does have the disadvantage of running more into clichés with the series, it's probably impossible to count how many times the ship's core has been ejected across so many episodes. The movies are kind of OK, but don't really do justice to the whole thing
Star Trek has a lot more fun with some of the episodes, SW can't really do that with the movies
I remember one episode where the two aliens discovered smoking after having two cigs, then immediately ordered 500 more

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>>15079586
>I feel as if I've been walking all my life, and only just now sat down

>> No.15079610
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Why haven’t you taken the BeryLox pill yet? ISP over a hundred seconds more than hydromeme!

>> No.15079618

>>15079610
What is BeryLox?

>> No.15079631

>>15079618
Be/O2 engines, has to be Hybrid tho, with a 50% mixture of the Beryllium in H2 you get ISP in the 560s range. Energetically physical maximum is about 710s (although that can’t be reached)

Quite impractical tho ahah. And your exhaust is a major health hazard.

>> No.15079642

>>15079631
On top of that tripropellant engines are notoriously difficult. the only one that has ever worked was RD-701, and that never mixed the three together, it changed between Hydrolox and Kerolox.

>> No.15079646

>>15079642
what if they mix all three together and feed that to the rocket engine

>> No.15079647

>>15079646
>what if they mix all three together
explosion

>> No.15079656

>>15079243
>s-surely von Braun wouldn't say something like that
Lmao

>>>/wsg/4889369

>> No.15079666

>>15079443
Parody and mockumentary movies are the worst trash around. All painfully unfunny.

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I've been forgotten

>> No.15079673

>>15079642
The kerolox mode of the Rd-701 actually used a 2:1 RP-1/H2 mixture as fuel tho, (81,4/12,6/6 O2/RP-1/H2), the hydrolox mode was pure H2/O2

That’s why the kerolox mode could reach 415 s isp

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tfw no 90s french NTR

>> No.15079680

>>15079676
Nobody wants NTR.

>> No.15079682

>>15079680
only cucks want ntr

>> No.15079686

>>15079673
It actually used the H2 as fuel? I thought I read somewhere it was just using it as a coolant.

>>15079682
I'd let an NTR fuck my wife if it meant that Europe would actually do something meaningful for a change instead of just siting around in subcommittee bitching about how America always treats them like a second-class partner.

>> No.15079690

>>15079680
Just like spaceplanefags ntrniggers only like it for the aesthetics, the "sovl".
They are scum who don't care about spaceflight being the best it can be.

>> No.15079691

>>15079586
>>15079601
Here's your (you).

>> No.15079692
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15079692

Why can't Elon control his autism? He just makes it harder for himself to pursue space exploration and expansion

>> No.15079693

>>15079686
well I do hope Arianespace has success in copying the F9

>> No.15079695

>>15079686
>Europe
>nuclear
LMAO BUDDY

>> No.15079696

>>15079692
if he controlled his autism we wouldn't have SpaceX in the first place

>> No.15079697

>>15079666
Airplane and Police Squad are actually good.
The rest are trash.

>> No.15079698

Starship?

>> No.15079701

>>15079698
2 weeks

>> No.15079706

https://twitter.com/engineers_feed/status/1607354892397453320
>replies
>quote tweets
It’s all so tiresome

>> No.15079710

>>15079692
You'll be glad for his belligerent autism when he has the balls to tell the UN and US government to go fuck themselves when he's reasonably sure they can't stop him from declaring Martian sovereignty.

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>>15079682
>only cucks want ntr
Why does the US Space Force have a hard on for it then?

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>>15079330
Updated a meme I made a while back for the current year.

>> No.15079721

>>15079691
thank you anon

>> No.15079723
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>> No.15079725

>>15079711
think a little bit

>> No.15079726

>>15079706
why do /space fag general/ cares so much about twitter posts? I only go there for updates

>> No.15079728

>>15079686
Hendrickx’s Energia book says so anyway

>>15079695
We actually had an international (France-Belgium-Germany) NTR program in the late 60s/early 70s, didn’t get to the test phase like soviet and American tho

>>15079706
Slavery is cool
Rockets are cool
It’s doubly cool

>> No.15079731

>15079706
go back nigger
nobody wants to partake in your disgusting lack of self discipline

>> No.15079733

>>15079723
can someone explain a little what I'm looking at

>> No.15079736
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>> No.15079740

>>15079736
>spaceplane

>> No.15079748
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>>15079740
X-20 Dyna-Soar is halal

>> No.15079753

>>15079466
>It reminds me of Star Wars
Well no shit

>> No.15079755

>>15079748
Mig 105 is so FUCKING based
Also the later designs for klipper were really cool. Basically just a soyuz but made fully reusable

>> No.15079757

>>15079697
Honestly I hate them all. I haven't seen Police Squad but I hate Airplane, I hate every Mel Brooks movie I've seen, I hate Spinal Tap, Best in Show, etc etc. They're all migraine inducing, painfully unfunny.

>> No.15079758

>>15079748
The paper studies part could be filled a lot more

>> No.15079759

>>15079757
also the naked gun movies. awful unfunny slop.

>> No.15079761

>>15079748
VKA-23 Design 2 looks way too sleek for a cold war Russian design. Completely unlike the others shown there. What happened, did the Soviets accidentally let somebody with a soul near a drafting table?

>> No.15079762
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>>15079758
It sure could.

>> No.15079767
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>> No.15079771

>>15079717
lmfao

>> No.15079774
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>> No.15079775

wait, we didn't have a single Starship hop of any kind this year
I've been swindled

>> No.15079780

>>15079330
>>15079717
Did Rogozin really get his dick shot off?

>> No.15079786

>>15079775
The age of rapid testing is over. The time for regulation and safety has come.

>> No.15079787

>>15079780
Took a bit of shrapnel to the bellend from what I heard, causing enough damage for there to be little hope left of salvaging it. Something about a birthday party and a cheeky artillery shell.

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>>15079225
Wasn't he into wife swapping?

>> No.15079792

>>15079786
Regulation of the outer space is a crime against mankind.

>> No.15079796

I do wonder what does /sfg/ actually enjoy, because all I see here is people complaining about stuff constantly. Which movies the anons here enjoy?

>> No.15079799

>>15079796
Space Cowboys

>> No.15079800

>>15079796
I liked Moon.

>> No.15079803

>>15079796
The Right Stuff

>> No.15079804
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Do you guys think Estronaut would share his gf with me?

>> No.15079808

>>15079804
No but he's not strong enough to stop you.

>> No.15079809

>>15079803
https://youtu.be/hAyJiNobfY8
scientists HATE this scene

>> No.15079810

>>15079796
that clip from all mankind of the sea dragon launch is peak cinema to me

>> No.15079815

>>15079810
*for all mankind fuck

>> No.15079816
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>>15079810
Today I will remind them

>> No.15079819

>>15079796
I thought first man was cool

>> No.15079823

>>15079804
He most likely would.

>> No.15079824

>>15079791
he was into incest

>> No.15079829
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>>15079819
Ryan Gosling space kino was horribly underrated.

>> No.15079835

>>15079809
Absolute kino

>> No.15079836

>>15079804
Probably. Try offering him a nintendo.

>> No.15079839

>>15079810
The engine plume is an absolute embarrassment, to say nothing of the other problems.
I can only assume this is bait but I'm replying anyway.

>> No.15079841

>>15079796
October Sky and The Rocketeer kickstarted my autism as a young lad

>> No.15079845

>>15079819
>>15079829
I usually like the “ryan gosling plays weird quiet autist” flicks like drive and blade runner but holy fuck first man was so weird. Neil comes across as an actual autistic person. And I get that he was probably very eccentric in real life but it just didn’t click with me. The X-15 scene was awesome though

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>>15079796
Watch Star Cops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Cops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpeldoEzg2U

>> No.15079850

>>15079845
if neil had smashed some skulls in it might have taken the edge off

>> No.15079853

Isn't First Man the movie that features the song Whitey on the Moon?

>> No.15079860

>>15079853
Yes

>> No.15079863
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15079863

I love this man

>> No.15079895

>>15079796
Avatar
Avatar: The Way of Water

>> No.15079896

>>15079863
lol

>> No.15079899

>>15079863
What an ugly piece of shit

>> No.15079919
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15079919

What could have been.

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>>15079601
That's not Star Trek.
Star Trek isn't that based.

>> No.15079947

>>15079692
Why can't you just suck his dick quietly?

>> No.15079951

>>15079845
Neil was so calm and had the Goober kind of smile irl. I think it’s possible that he had an undiagnosed form of Asperger’s.

>> No.15079956 [DELETED] 

>>15079586
>it's probably impossible to count how many times the ship's core has been ejected across so many episodes
lol

>> No.15079967

>>15079850
kek
>>15079951
More than likely, yeah. My critique is mainly that it comes across as “I am acting in an EPIC movie” where he’s so damn stoic all the time. Every scene feels like it’s made for a trailer. It’s not really a ryan gosling thing, he’s really funny in the nice guys. It’s a director thing

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15079987

Anyone want some Jet-Up?

>> No.15079999

>>15079791
That was the JPL founder who blew himself up.

>> No.15080000
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I found this pic in my /sfg/ folder and I don't remember saving it.

Anyone know what it is?

>> No.15080002

>>15079791
He married his 18 year old 1st cousin when he was 35. If that's not based I don't know what is.

>> No.15080004

>>15080002
kys

>> No.15080005

>>15080000
>>/sci/thread/14813062#p14813486
Use the archive searching by image md5, and thankfully the resident named-pictures-poster is always.. naming the images, so there's your answer.

>> No.15080010

>>15079999
Jack Parsons?

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>>15079899
The F-104 is a kino banana.

>> No.15080015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlAgRUJvP0c
>Manley calls Titan a planet
Alan Stern was right

>> No.15080017

>>15080010
Yeah. His wife fucked Aleister Crowley.

>> No.15080018

>>15080015
Titan is a shithole
>muh hydrocarbon oceans
There are like two small lakes near the north pole and that's it.

>> No.15080019

>>15080004
You sound jealous.

>> No.15080021

>>15079999
>blew himself up.
What did he mean by this?

>> No.15080022

>>15080019
Why would I be jealous of such filth?

>> No.15080026
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>>15080017
I can believe it.

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>>15080015
Scott can't tell the difference between men and women and he's going to tell me what a planet is?

>> No.15080029
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>>15080018
>There are like two small lakes
The state of /sfg/

>> No.15080033

>>15080029
Impressive. Very nice.
Now let's see that in the context of the rest of Titan.

>> No.15080036

>>15080033
Tell me how many liquid lakes there are in the surfaces of Mars and Venus.

>> No.15080046

>>15080036
At least Mars and Venus are made of real rocks, not slush.

>> No.15080051

>>15080046
>MUH ROGGS
Fucking methane lakes and you care about roggs instead?

>> No.15080055

>>15080036
Three

>> No.15080071

>>15080000
ZHUTTLE

>> No.15080080

>>15080000
Concept for delivering a massive AA battery to LEO

>> No.15080081

>>15080080
Hahaha

>> No.15080084

>>15080080
What good is an Antiaircraft battery in space?

>> No.15080085

>>15080026
>Jack Parsons
>On June 17, 1952, a day before their planned departure, Parsons received a rush order of explosives for a film set and began to work on it in his home laboratory.[150] An explosion destroyed the lower part of the building, during which Parsons sustained mortal wounds. His right forearm was amputated, his legs and left arm were broken and a hole was torn in the right side of his face.[151] Despite these critical injuries, Parsons was found conscious by the upstairs lodgers. He tried to communicate with the arriving ambulance workers, who rushed him to the Huntington Memorial Hospital, where he was declared dead approximately thirty-seven minutes after the explosion.
Metal.
>When his mother, Ruth, learned of his death, she immediately took a fatal overdose of barbiturates.

That's sad

>> No.15080089

>>15080084
Denying spaceplanes SSTO status by shooting them down from orbit.

>> No.15080091
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Would this have worked?

>> No.15080110
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>>15080091
Only if we had deeper pockets we would be on mars by now.

>> No.15080114

>>15080000
Despicable me lookin ass

>> No.15080122

>>15080110
>the future I EARNED
the absolute dirt covering this earther

>> No.15080144

>>15080122
You'll need roughly twice the average volume of Earth to fully inter the bulk of that hambeast.

>> No.15080166

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igs17uN-bCw

>> No.15080167

>>15079553
If you go like this, most stories are just "setting slapped into a theme". It's much easier to write a story that happens in space rather than a story about space itself, as it is a setting, not a theme.

>> No.15080185

Fucking cum in a rocket's ass

>> No.15080188

>>15080185
The ISP of cum is dismissively low

>> No.15080195

I had a dream about Elon. He was at a burger joint in Australia, workshopping some Moon ideas. I asked him what he was working on, he just said "yeah". He began to morph into my 7th grade social studies teacher (and son) who is also South African. They order burgers, then I order a large "Sim Ple" burger. They both went to use the restroom. I got nervous, I thought they moved to get away from me, but they came back. The end

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>>15080166
Cute rocket. I always wondered why big rockets dont use alcohol.

>> No.15080218
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anyone got new years plans?

>> No.15080236

>>15080218
probably spending the night browsing sfg and listening to some music

>> No.15080254

>>15080212
A lot of early designs used it. Later work switched over to fuels with higher performance that the ground crews wouldn't be tempted to sip on when no one was looking. Several hundred tons of RP-1 might be cheaper too these days.

>> No.15080260

>>15080218
Drinking, watching Alien, and lurking on dvach probably

>> No.15080272

>>15080218
Maybe getting a job since I can't fill my whole week with college classes due to some shit.

>> No.15080276

>>15080218
I think I'm gonna get a bj from the milf next door. Otherwise I'll cook some chicken and drink a hazy IPA

>> No.15080283

>>15080218
Work :(

>> No.15080304

>>15080051
So you admit they're only lakes? Finally you're beginning to see sense.

>> No.15080310

>>15080304
FUCKING LIQUID IN THE SURFACE OF A MOON
How the fuck don't you see how amazing this is? It's the only place other than Earth with this that we can reach

>> No.15080313

>>15080310
people have peed on the moon

>> No.15080314

>>15080310
It's only a liquid because of the absurd conditions on Titan so it doesn't really count.

>> No.15080315

>>15080314
What does count for you, retard?

>> No.15080318

>>15080315
aint nothin swimmin in cryo fluids

>> No.15080319

>>15080051
the ol' JPL mindset. If they made it to the lakes on the first mission then that wouldn't generate a good amount of JOBS and $$$, at least in the immediate future. Better spread it out over several decades and lots of separate missions. Space is hard, better do it all in a gorillion steps, ferociously.

>> No.15080325

>>15080319
I'm so fucking pissed Dragonfly will not visit the lakes.

>> No.15080329

>>15080315
Normal oceans, covering a decent portion of the surface.

>> No.15080330

love how you keep calling them lakes. they are like 5 puddles and located within a single 5 sq mi block in the northern hemisphere

>> No.15080331

>>15080325
Don't worry about that overpriced toy. I'm sure there's some passionate rich guy in this world like Isaacman who would gladly pay for a mission to Titan using Starship. Just send the whole thing there with a swarm of probes, containing a gorillion landers, orbiters, submarines, rovers, etc. Oh no, one of them failed? send the next one. And that's just one single Starship.

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>>15080330
retard

>> No.15080335

>>15080330
Rheacuck, your moon is so boring.

>> No.15080336

>>15080333
So it's about the same size as an actual Lake?
You're becoming delusional, infirmary now.

>> No.15080337

>>15080335
I'm a simple man, a simple moon is for me. Quiet, content, living my best life
>>15080333
lol ya got me

>> No.15080338

>>15080335
lol

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>>15080333
>Kraken Mare is slightly bigger than the Caspian Sea, making it the largest lake in the Solar System
Ok it's bigger than I thought
Titan still sucks though

>> No.15080341

>>15080339
it just means it's a bigger nothingburger than we thought

>> No.15080346

>Venus was a water world
>Now you can’t even land a human on it
Why even live

>> No.15080347

>>15080276
Make sure to fuck her throat. Being purely on the receiving end of a bj is pretty gay.

>> No.15080348

>>15080330
retard
lower gravity = larger geographical features

>> No.15080358

>>15080347
>receiving oral sex by a woman
>gay
the mind of a muskrat is surely something strange

>> No.15080384

>>15079733
ITAR violation.

>> No.15080386

>>15080218
drinking with friends from high school

>> No.15080389

>>15080036
THERE ARE FOUR LAKES

>> No.15080390

>>15080358
It's potentially very passive so yeah unless you take some initiative it's steps down the path to being a bottom bitch

>> No.15080399

>>15080390
this is absolutely retarded but also kind of based

>> No.15080400

>>15080384
Kek

>> No.15080407

sfg is ALIVE

>> No.15080420
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq5sY-Ib268
I was thinking humans could easily terraform water worlds by electrolizing water and let the hydrogen naturally escape to space

>> No.15080424

>>15080407
Unfortunately so are many EARTHERS

>> No.15080426

>>15080420
Where is the electricity coming from?

>> No.15080428

>>15080424
Don't worry about that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis

>> No.15080431

>>15080420
Scientists should be banned from calling planets habitable unless they detect a breathable atmosphere, water, and confirm average surface temperature. getting so exhausted

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>>15080426
Just fuse the hydrogen

>> No.15080435

>>15080428
Fortunately we have the proven ability to redirect asteroids about to miss Earth.

>> No.15080443

>>15080435
Imagine one day waking up and tuning in to the news just to learn that an asteroid has hit a very populated area and millions have died. Suddenly this bullshit of "fix earth first" will disappear and people will start taking space seriously.
Or, on the other hand, the pessimistic in me would consider the possibility of people thinking that because an asteroid impact has finally happened it means that, statistically, there is almost a zero chance of another one happening in a very long, long time. Therefore no need to focus on space ever again, let's just fix earth this time for real! ugh

>> No.15080445

>>15080443
Damn whenever I think of your former thought, I also think of the latter. It’s nice to know I’m not the only one lol

>> No.15080449

I still don’t get why there wasn’t more ESA-JAXA cooperation in the 80s-90s, reading about them they really seemed like they had similar goals

>> No.15080453

>>15080449
I don’t get why there has ever been cooperation with ESA in the first place

>> No.15080455

now that nuclear fusion is solved, when are we gettin the wendelstein drive?

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>>15080443

>> No.15080458

>>15080455
two more centuries

>> No.15080459

>Howard Bloom on the space show podcast being a total elon musk stan
I cant fucking escape this guy

>> No.15080474

>>15080455
>solved
You need to look into how much power was required for the laser to deliver the power it bombarded the pellet with.
Spoiler: It's still 2-3 magnitudes off.

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>>15079346
don't worry they're already on the case
>bottom surgery is when literal bomb wound lmao

>> No.15080508

>>15080504
Difference between them and Rogozin is that Rogozin got his dick blown.
Straight off, that is.

>> No.15080509

>>15079206
>Curiosity

So he was useless, right? We put a fucking robot on another planet and our science didn't progress at all?

>> No.15080510

>>15080509
sfg moment

>> No.15080519

>>15079642
>the only one that has ever worked was RD-701, and that never mixed the three together
Yes it did. How the fuck do you think mode 1 got an ISP of 415 lmao?

>> No.15080520

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-last-starlink-launch-2022-mystery/

So what are the odds this isn't actually a Starlink launch and it's some spook shit?

>> No.15080523

>>15080520
Wasn't there a thing where there were spy sats mixed in with a few Starlink launches? Probably that going on

>> No.15080557

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-last-starlink-launch-2022-mystery/

what's this about?

>> No.15080559

>>15080504
rogozin didnt deserve that

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>>15080504
that last tweeter drew picture related

>> No.15080572

>>15080570
I like the part where her body progressively combusts leaving only her head to be propelled into space.

>> No.15080578

>>15080572
I like that SLS pussy or sussy. NGL I wanna hit that slushie..SLS got a fat ass, oh thicc baby

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>>15080080
>massive AA battery
>Not a tiny rocket to deliver a regular AA battery to LEO

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>>15079468
I NEED plausible space warfare in media

>> No.15080620

>>15079468
>>15080616
Star Wars is a fantasy series disguised as science fiction.

>> No.15080621

>>15080578
I read these coomposts in thick Indian accent

>> No.15080622
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>>15080620
Ok I know, but I still fucking want a fictional show with realistic space warfare.

>> No.15080627

Robert Zubrin.

>> No.15080628
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The proposed early 90s Irene french Soyuz upper stage, before Fregat

>> No.15080629

>>15079488
This was so fucking bad. They should have had them jumping through hyperspace over and over, but every time the Imperials are hot on their heels due to a secret tracking device planted in the rebel fleet. Like in the first episode of the new battlestar galactica. You could have had thrilling combat sequences in all sorts of varied locations, but no instead we got that weird sluggish chase.

>> No.15080632

Rather humorously, an encyclopedia of Soviet cosmonautics, published in 1970 at the direction of Valentin Glushko, a leading figure in the space industry, described the Proton simply as a launcher "of several stages and many engines". And the image of the Semyorka was so dominant that when experts finally saw the Proton launcher in its entirety in 1984 they misunderstood its first stage structure. They inferred it to be flanked by liquid-fueled boosters, whereas it was a distinct, but ingenious, concept in which six tanks of fuel were strapped around a central tank of oxidizer

The absolute state

>> No.15080633

>>15079967
I read the biography and supposedly he wasn't as somber, although I guess the movie revolves more about the loss of his daughter than it does the mission itself, which is fine with me since we already have the excellent "From the earth to the moon" chapter.
Regardless, the people that knew him said he had a good sense of humor, but he often didn't find the need to say anything or express his opinions, so he never spoke out of time. To him going to the moon was more like another day in the office than an epic adventure. He was the real Iceman.

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>>15080110
kek I didn't know he was real

>> No.15080646

>>15080633
I like how he's the polar opposite of Buzz Aldrin in disposition, but they're both based in different ways.

>> No.15080679

>>15080638
He is real but at the same time a cartoon caricature.

>> No.15080696

>>15079304
What's that thing on the ET beneath the orbiter nose tip?

>> No.15080697

>>15080559
Sic semper vatniks

>> No.15080743

>>15080632
understandable mistake
I mean there's not a single other rocket with that configuration

>> No.15080766

>>15079967
> “I am acting in an EPIC movie” where he’s so damn stoic all the time.
that movie cliche is based on real, stoic people
it's not movie's fault over-emotional basedboys and women can't self-insert themselves into people with that mentality

>> No.15080774

>>15080766
Loser + wordfilter

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>>15079206
Post other spacecraft made from food

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>>15079230
floors look like wafers

>> No.15080813

>>15080774
Faggot

>> No.15080820
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Here’s your Ariane Derived Launcher

>> No.15080853

Ukraine’s inability to develop an indigenous long range missile in 30 years of independent existence despite having, back in 1991, a larger capability to make missiles than Britain, France or China is as humiliating as Russia’s performance in the war

>> No.15080864

>>15080743
For good reason too. If you are going to bother adding that much mass and drag for seperate tanks rather than enlarging your main 2, might as well have the ability to shed the mass rather than keep it for the entire first stage's burn time.
That extra tank wall mass and aerodynamic drag hampers the performance by much more than people realize. This stupid thing gets less than half of the payload to LEO than a Falcon 9 despite it's core stage being the same diameter, with a wider upper stage, just because of those stupid tanks.
They gave Vatniks the benefit of the doubt and assumed that Vatniks weren't fucking retarded then they got proven wrong.

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>>15080743
ENTER

>> No.15080905

>>15080853
They only started taking defense RD seriously very recently

>> No.15080917

>>15080887
Saturn I?
more like Redstone faggot

>> No.15080918

>>15080455
reminder than a vehicle utilizing a parabolic reflector simply reflecting the heat from a nuclear source would have a higher specific impulse than any of your meme drives

>> No.15080920

>>15080887
Man did this thing suck.

>> No.15080924

>>15080918
keep crying, nuclear is too dangerous. meme drives will happen sooner

>> No.15080925

>>15080924
it could be simply heat produced by an mmrtg

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>>15080925
I dont fucking think so

>> No.15080940

>>15080929
wat was his problem, bros?

>> No.15080941
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>France and Russia had agreed to fund a €300 million preliminary development on a methalox heavy partially reusable launch vehicle 2005-2010
>Not a single render
>not a single detail other than the Russians tested a 100 kN methalox Sub scale prototype of a 2 MN one in 2007 or so

>> No.15080950

>>15080443
>statistically, there is almost a zero chance of another one happening in a very long, long time
>the lightning doesn't strike twice fallacy
It always was a very long, long time. But then midwits would think it will be longer next time because it had just happened.

>> No.15080956

>>15080508
[rawchicken.jpg]
...instead of an axe wound?

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>> No.15080961

can we stop pretending that asteroid strikes are a problem? More people probably die from lightning even when you count in the really big asteroid strikes that happen every 1000 years.

>> No.15080967

watch it niggas, is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nLHIM2IPRY

>> No.15080974

>>15080853
90's Ukraine was even worse than 90's Russia lmao. They could barely afford food, much less make use of their Soviet rocket heritage.

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>> No.15080992

>>15080977
seething. i bet you'd prefer one of those openly communistic space twitter trannies.

>> No.15081003
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The human urge to expand your rock collection to include a sample from every major rocky solar system body and moon

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>>15080992
> Manley isn't a crypto commie tranny respector
ha ha
hee hee even

>> No.15081011

>>15081008
>get them on board, I’ll call it in

>> No.15081027

>>15079774
What's this from?

>> No.15081042

>>15081003
One day Amazon will sell a little giftbox collection to hang on your wall containing a small rock from each planet labeled.

>> No.15081063

>>15080013
It's an ugly deathtrap pencil

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memedrives are nice

>> No.15081074

>>15081067
>MTF propulsion
next step on Rogozin's tech tree

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>>15081067

>> No.15081081
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>>15080013
It makes slowfags and rateofclimblets seethe so goddamn much. The men piloting these things had balls of titanium.

>> No.15081141

Can they still launch this year

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>> No.15081158

>>15080616
>>15080622
Are there speculative works about space warfare? I don't mean even stories with it, just something like a book discussing how it could be done.

>> No.15081163

https://twitter.com/innospacecorp/status/1607680155782348800
>Expected to try again the HANBIT-TLV test flight in Q1 2023. Currently completed checkups for an unexpected system synchronization issue. Continuing our launch journey next year! Stay tuned for update.
There is a video of it in the post.

>> No.15081181

>>15081155
kek

>> No.15081206

>>15081027
orion

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>>15080622
>realistic space warfare.
>ships sniping each other 100,000km away with lasers as their trajectories converge (anything that's not a laser can be dodged or intercepted)

>> No.15081239
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>> No.15081242

>>15081239
that's the ISS?

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>>15081239

>> No.15081249

>>15081141
Terran 1? Yup. At the strike of midnight on new years. Ride or die baby

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>>15081242
yep

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>>15079863
The F-104 is such a beautiful aircraft. Modern engines make so much thrust that modern fighters are able to brute-force their way into being fast, but the F-104 had to actually tailor its design for speed, which is a lot cooler.

Also, the high accident rate is mostly because the Germans were actual retards and used it as a fighter problem. The Japanese and Italians didn't have particularly high accident rates.

>> No.15081267

>>15081265
Fuck, meant fighter bomber

>> No.15081272

>>15081263
This is just a collage with a transparent starship render over it. When will you actually make a starship pic out of krystal pics?

>> No.15081273

>>15081265
>the high accident rate is mostly because the Germans were actual retards and used it as a fighter problem.
The germans forced a high altitude interceptors into ground attack role.
Absolute retards.

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Fly Safe, Fly Proton!

>> No.15081307

>>15081265
correct. Spain also had 104s and 0 deaths or aircraft lost.

>> No.15081315

>>15081220
Can lasers focus at such a range and still have good damage?

>> No.15081336

If I can convince the wife to get on the road by 3am then we could see a fucking NIGHT LAUNCH by the Cape. Allah willing.

>> No.15081339

sea life is in a sense already in 0g so we can expect 0g air life to evolve some similar features

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Road closure on 30th
May be another cryo test of Booster 9 or static fire of S26.

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Would this even work? This was w relatively common proposals to launch repurposed Russian icbms in the 90s.

The successful 70s minuteman test and the continued American development of rapid dragon seems to prove it is technologically sound, now whether the Russians could pull it off reliably in the 90s is another thing...

>> No.15081451

>>15081424
Rapid Dragon is hilariously janky. I think the goal of the DARPA program Astra was competing for was to be compatible with Rapid Dragon with a liquid fueled rocket for better payload.

>> No.15081455

>>15081424
>rocket launches straight up
Based.

>> No.15081461

>>15081424
>whether the Russians could pull it off reliably in the 90s
The answer to this is no. The only thing they were capable of doing during the 1990s was selling off soviet hardware at firesale prices. That's also 95% of what they've been able to do in the decades sense. Most of their new innovations have just been modernized soviet designs with more advanced western components swapped in.

It's also an air-launched design. Those are never a good idea.

>> No.15081467

>>15081424
The gravity losses are more extreme, accelerating downward until the rocket is vertical. The only thing it actually gives is flexibility in launch point. I can't imagine it works out to improve performance.

>> No.15081476

>>15081461
People say that but all the Icbm/slbm Russian/Ukrainian derived launch vehicles had decent success rate. dnepr, shtill, Rockot, start-1, post-90 Cyclon all were commercial success. The myth of the faulty Old soviet Icbm is mostly a myth

>> No.15081489

>>15081467
On this particular plan you had
-170 m/s of horizontal velocity
-10 km drop, so a good 100 m/s closer to orbital altitude
-directly low pressure helps for the isp
-higher or lower latitude launches depending on what you need (so ~200 m/s bonus compared to a mid-latitude Russian launch)

everything considered you’d need your Icbm with chutes to fall at Mach 2 to negate your advantage.

>> No.15081494

>>15081489
Plus all the Russian Icbm had high TWR so you just need to cancel your fall speed with little additional gravity losses

>> No.15081498

>>15081476
Yeah, but none of those were being tossed out of the back of a plane. They were all conventional launch system that had enviable track records from before the wall came down, or were already reliable weapons systems that were upgraded into launchers by adding slightly modified preexisting technology from other projects. The only truly new thing Russia's brought to the table in living memory has been the Angara and it's taken them almost thirty years to get it something resembling an operational flight rate. In the 1990s Russia inherited a lot of good tech that they brought to the market for cheap so their design bureaus wouldn't shut down completely. What they didn't have the funding needed to design a completely untested new launch system.

>> No.15081504

Does anyone here believe the mach-27 avangard thing?

>> No.15081505
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Crater simulator.
https://neal.fun/asteroid-launcher/

>> No.15081506

>>15079686
>do nothing
>complain you're treated like you're useless
weird!

>> No.15081513

>>15081505
I love destroying Los Angeles

>> No.15081514 [DELETED] 

>>15079796
Jesus Christ, there's nothing wrong with enjoying movies but to treat it as some kind of test of character is disgusting. Go watch the latest Netflix offerings.

>> No.15081518

>>15079804
Why not? He's not using her.

>> No.15081527

>>15080940
tremendous faggot who gets high off his own farts

>> No.15081531
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When was the last time Musk talked about spaceflight?

>> No.15081532

>>15081527
he literally tried to stop the Cassini launch and no one ever asked him about it in an interview since. why has no one publically clowned him?

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>> No.15081537

>>15081531
A day probably. He congratulated SpaceX team for launch cadence anf also commented on that euro rocket failure.

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>>15081505
The evil is defeated

>> No.15081572

has SeX already confirmed the starlink launch for tomorrow?

>> No.15081580

>>15079796
D U N E

>> No.15081597

>>15081572
Yes

>> No.15081602

>>15079796
hopefully three body problem haha oh no...

>> No.15081614

>>15081155
Hahah

>> No.15081633 [DELETED] 

rotating cylindrical habitats give me autism

>> No.15081647

>>15079318
this loops back to being based

>> No.15081683

>>15081580
The new one right?

>> No.15081693

>>15081538
>>15081505
impressive, very nice. lets see the Israel Iron 1mile 45degree one.
>>15081532
wdym stop the cassini? is this guy that much of a faggot? why?

>> No.15081702

>>15081693
Because Cassini had RTGs on board and apparently that posed an unacceptable risk if the Titan IV it was riding blew up on launch or if it whiffed its Earth gravity assist maneuver and crashed into the planet. 33 kg of Plutonium dioxide, which would have led to a 0.0005% increase in the rate of cancer deaths over the following decade. The man should be burned at the stake for promoting such nonsense while claiming to be a scientist.

>> No.15081704

>>15081693
>why?
the “but what about the 1% chance of titan failure, or cassini failing while doing an earth gravity assist???????? AAAAAAAAHHHHHH THERE WILL BE 10 GRAMS OF PLUTONIUM SCATTERED IN THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE NOOOOOOOOOOO” argument

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WE ARE GOING
TO BREAK ANOTHER RECORD
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/12/spacex-starlink-5-1-launch/

>> No.15081729

Did SpaceX hit the 60 launches goal this year?

>> No.15081730

>>15081538
You utter fool, you missed Ohio.

>> No.15081732

So turbopump is just a fluid equivalent of a turbocharger?

>> No.15081735

>>15081732
yes

>> No.15081742

>>15081732
they both deal with fluid, it’s the type of fluid that’s different

>> No.15081747

>>15081742
Liquid then.

>> No.15081748

>>15081742
or “state” of the fluid, rather. Whatever. Why did the F1 get away with using its own fuel as the turbopump fluid but the J-2 couldn’t? Is it a “hydrogen kills everything” problem?

>> No.15081757

>>15081729
the next one is gonna be the 59th F9 launch and the 60th launch if you include that FH one.

>> No.15081761

>>15081757
Every FH is 3 F9 launches, in MY opinion

>> No.15081769

>>15081761
I don't see anything special a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he took three Falcon 9s and put them together and that became the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry.

>> No.15081777

>>15081769
Kek the pasta never fails to crack me up

>> No.15081781

>>15081777
I don't see any punchline for a copypasta, except that he's going to copy a text and paste it on the thread and that becomes the pasta. It's not that easy in copypastery.

>> No.15081812

>>15081719
Yeah, but is anyone actually going to be up to watch? China had another early AM launch today and no one even noticed that happened.

>> No.15081819

>>15081702
>>15081704
How is anyone tuned in enough to even be afraid of that? He's way too stupid. Someone or some group must have told him to be afraid

>> No.15081844

I would label myself pretty ‘patriotic,’ but USA/Alan Shepard/John Glenn’s first suborbital and orbital flights seem so fucking lame compared to USSR/Gagarin’s flight. Perhaps I would feel different if Glenn reached orbit first? I don’t know
https://youtu.be/JjAKmhSCjyg

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>>15081844
Not to be le ebig goalpost shifter, but gagarin only completed 1 orbit. Which is basically a glorified suborbital flight, in terms of trajectory. John Glenn stayed in space for 3 orbits which is way cooler.
Gagarin should have overridden the retrorockets like a true chad

>> No.15081871

>>15081844
Those first american flights were so close to the soviet one. I don't get how there are retards who bullshit about "the soviets had more firsts! the US only got the Moon landing" when it was a clearly toe to toe race.

>> No.15081888

>>15081844
The early American flights were arguably more impressive from a technological standpoint.
The soviets cobbled together a cuckball with an ejection seat and barely any life support systems and hucked it into space as a stunt. The spacecraft Laika rode in was arguably better engineered.

Meanwhile the Americans started from scratch on an incremental path towards the moon and hit every single goal on time precisely as they intended.

>> No.15081891

>>15081865
Nigger Gherman Titov launched before John Glenn and stayed in space for like 20 orbits

>> No.15081899

>>15081891
Oh shit nevermind then lmao

>> No.15081901

I want Homer Hickham to suckle my scrotum

>> No.15081903

>>15081901
He's such a fucking annoying faggot dude. He was my idol when I was a kid because of October Sky and it's been so fucking painful to find out that he's a retarded maga boomer

>> No.15081906

>>15081888
>The early American flights were arguably more impressive from a technological standpoint
Lol no. Being able to get that amount of mass into orbit by that point in time was far more impressive. And the Vostok were quite a lot more capable than Mercury.

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F9 upper stage captured a brief frame of a space force artefact before cutting feed. Any idea what it could be?

>> No.15081909

>>15081888
>every single goal on time precisely as they intended.
what is apollo 1?

>> No.15081914

>>15081903
>maga boomer
That only makes me like him more. You dont like MAGA? why?

>> No.15081919

>>15081906
I'm not talking about the rocket I'm talking about the spacecraft, the surrounding support system, and the program as a whole. The R-7 was indeed very advanced for the time but the tradeoff was it allowed the soviet engineers to be way lazier about the spacecraft engineering, which bit them in the ass later in the 60s and 70s. That's why they ended up with the N1 just to put a single guy in a fucked up little deathtrap lander on the moon, while we had the Saturn 5 putting 3 guys in space and 2 on the moon.

>> No.15081948

https://youtu.be/Tv9kVJvOVeo
/sfg/ required listening

>> No.15081955

>>15081919
t. Retarded faggot pulling shit out of his ass

The Vostok literally was more capable than thr Mercury, a lot to it being able to be more massive. It had more up mass, it could stay longer in space, it had a larger internal volume, it could be controlled both from the ground and manually by the cosmonaut, its life support system lasted longer etc

All Mercury had over it was being able to do water landings and better attitude control system.

And the problem with their lunar system was related to the absolute garbage TLI capability of the N1. It was like half the mass of Saturn V which forced them to shave off mass to the extreme. Had nothing to do with technology of the spacecrafts. If anything their lunar lander, the LK lunar lander was the biggest success in their lunar lander since it was the only piece of hardware that got fully certified for human spaceflight after several successful tests in earth orbit. The whole EVA in lunar orbit death stunt shit was entirely a result of the poor performance of the N1 and nothing to do with the spacecrafts.

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There it is

>> No.15081980

>>15081975
They are so fucking close to fulfilling Musk's prediction. I hope they manage to get this and the other one scheduled for the 30th done.

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>>15081220
not true, any laser that is not the size of a country at that distance would be useless. Good luck however evading or intercepting 40km/s 2mm pellets launched at you from a railgun. Hundreds of them for that matter.
>>15081158
For good speculative articles check http://toughsf.blogspot.com/ he has very good articles in space warfare in general.
Also if you like games check out Children of a Dead Earth on steam.

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>>15081903

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https://youtu.be/gnDQo9YXCdU

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>>15081986

>> No.15081995

>>15081919
The R7 had no business being as good of a freshman effort as it was. That rocket has carried Russia's space program for 65 years.

>> No.15081997

>>15081901
Are you the Nasa Furry?

>> No.15082004

>>15081975
We all know they are not reaching 60 launches this year. Why even hope for it. Better luck next year.

>> No.15082029

>>15080929
>>15080940
>>15081527
>>15081819
>>15081702
Someone needs to tell him that Kaku means atom in Japanese, like in kakuheiki (atomic weapons) so that he commits sudoku

>> No.15082031

>>15081683
The new one is DUNC

>> No.15082035

>>15081538
>missing both coasts
you are like a little baby of hating america

>> No.15082041

>>15081781
I don't see any punchline for a copypasta, except that he's going to copy a text and paste it on the thread and that becomes the pasta. It's not that easy in copypastery.

>> No.15082043

>>15082004
>90% go
It's more likely they do with their track record

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>> No.15082052

>>15082035
This, who targets the fucking heartland instead of either coast?

>> No.15082053

>>15081538
only 50% of americans died. i call this an epic fail

>> No.15082066

>>15082050
this cant be real

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>>15081538
you misssed NYC
>>15081730
yes, then you would hit both chicago and NYC, and the gayest part of leafistan

>> No.15082104

>>15082052
To really destroy America, shouldn't you target all the Real 'Muricans?

>> No.15082114

Soon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYA4gT7VGU

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>> No.15082126

>>15081812
I’ll be awake and watching from central Florida.

>> No.15082130

>>15082104
Appalachian are mostly spared tho

>> No.15082132

Funny to watch a Tesla shill is in total meltdown over Tesla stock crashing. LMAO

https://twitter.com/Teslaconomics

>> No.15082135 [DELETED] 

>>15082132
Talk about rocket engines or USSR space kino, or leave and kys

>> No.15082136

>>15082132
Tesla is in trouble, the FSD grift is collapsing. Hopefully it doesn't do any collateral damage to SpaceX.

>> No.15082144

>>15082136
Full Sneed Dabbing?

>> No.15082161

sigh..
starship launch license status?

>> No.15082163

>>15082161
FAA is still Biden their time.

>> No.15082223

>>15082126
At least you've got a view of something. I'm sitting her waiting for a northerly launch out of Wallops that doesn't go on a night when there's nothing but clouds over my house.

>> No.15082227

>>15082223
Meanwhile, I live thousands of kilometers away from the nearest spaceport lol :(

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>>15082161
One fortnite.

>> No.15082302

Where is the starlink stream? It should launch in just a few hours

>> No.15082326

>>15082302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnDQo9YXCdU
https://nextspaceflight.com/

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Any fellow autist want to help me out? This website claims Mariner 10 took this upper atmosphere photo of Venus, but I literally cannot find this photo anywhere else
mentallandscape.com/V_Lavochkin2.htm

>> No.15082350

>>15082334
I can only find Mercury images from Mariner 10, not Venus.

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>>15082350
Yeah same here. I think it did a ton of imaging of Venus but no matter how much I try to look into it I can only find this one, and a ‘modern processed’ equivalent. But nothing else
Where does NASA keep all its original data aaaagghhhhh

>> No.15082368

>>15082356
Trust me, it's fucking ASS to find raw images from NASA. They are usually scattered through various websites, usually stuff that looks like it's from 2005, and there is no easy way to find them.

>> No.15082375

>>15082368
That’s what I expected lol. I just found the raw Mariner data stored directly from the tapes and converted to CD-WO. I’m going to take a crack at trying to reprocess old NASA image data sometime this weekend but I have a very basic understanding on how to do it

>> No.15082388

>>15082375
I wish they gave a shit on making raw images easier to find, but I guess they don't expect non-researchers to care about it.

>> No.15082398

>>15082388
I know. You’d think at some point they would at least go back through their catalog of old missions and offer an easier way to extract the data. But oh well. It’s low on the priorities I guess lol

>> No.15082400

>>15082334
more info about the Venus portion of Mariner-10's mission
>https://history.nasa.gov/SP-424/ch6.htm

>> No.15082409

interesting site while looking around
https://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/dev/hillger/Mariner.htm

>> No.15082411

>>15082277
Among us

>> No.15082415

I just found out SpaceX made an ISS docking simulator with the Dragon 2's touch-screen controls. Havent managed to dock it even once though.

https://iss-sim.spacex.com/

>> No.15082416

>>15082400
Oh sweet. Thank you. Early soviet/american solar system missions are so fucking cool. Every piece of hardware is so interesting, especially the cameras. The way those old probes actually took photos, stored them, and transmitted them all on a mass budget with oldschool technology is fascinating

>> No.15082420

>>15082409
Holy moly this is an autist’s treasure trove hahaha

>> No.15082422

>>15082415
newfag play ksp and lurk more

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>>15082422
>KSP
lmao

>> No.15082429

>>15082415
Based interstellar medium poster

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>oh wow a Mariner 10 Image Archive with thousands of images
>all of it is Mercury
https://ser.sese.asu.edu/M10/IMAGE_ARCHIVE/Mercury_search.html
https://ser.sese.asu.edu/M10/image_archive.html

https://ser.sese.asu.edu/M10/BULLETINS/bul-19_p1.pdf#page=4
This ended up being the closest i could find. Had a similar description under the image.
>Haze layers on the limb of Venus were Photographed by Mariner 10 in orange light. The thickness of the haze above the clouds is about 6 kilometers and appears to cover the entire planet. Three or perhaps four layers appear on this narrow angle frame taken near the equator 15 minuets after closest approach to Venus on February 5. The Three black dots in the lowest haze layer are used for corrections for geometric distortion on the television camera.

Interesting fact I learned while searching is that Mariner 10 had sent back a total of 4165 images of Venus.

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>>15082415
>he can't dock a dragon 2 to ISS
I bet I could do it on my first try in real life

>> No.15082509

>>15082479
Not a care in the world, just snapping photos and flying past all the inner planets

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>page 10

>> No.15082618

You guys have five minutes to bake or rocketman.png is going to be the OP pic for next thread

>> No.15082620

I bake

>> No.15082624

>>15082622

>>15082622

>>15082622

>> No.15083248

>>15082334
>>15082350
I found some stuff on the national archives only to see there's nothing digitalized lol https://catalog.archives.gov/search?q=mariner%2010%20venus&typeOfMaterials=Photographs%20and%20other%20Graphic%20Materials