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14806549 No.14806549 [Reply] [Original]

These excess deaths are not associated primarily with Covid.

What could explain so many different countries all seeing a mysterious rise in deaths across younger demographics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wLu98NygrA

>> No.14806556
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14806556

>>14806549

>> No.14806580

>>14806549
>Nurse with le phd in nurse teaching

>> No.14806586

>>14806556
This couldn't be it, right? It was approved by the FDA and everything.

>> No.14806588

>>14806580

He has a background in medical science and is doing nothing but reading government data.

Why do you resort to very poor adhoms?

>> No.14806592

>>14806549
its teh vax carttle getting btfo and it is a good thing. relax.

>> No.14806598

heart disease is the primary cause of death in general, there could be weaker heart health with more remote work now available and people staying indoors since with amazon and netflix everything can be done in your home in 2022, across all of the West. plus there's a war going on now

>> No.14806602
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>>14806549
>What could explain so many different countries all seeing a mysterious rise in deaths across younger demographics?
extreme stress and isolation amplify existing diseases and mental disorders (or making it more likely for mental disorders to break out)
these lockdowns cripple young people and their social development causing all kinds of issues, tanking the economy, making inflation even worse by having to print money for gibs without any appropriate amount of countervalue being created, for a low single digit number of lower cases (if even)
overall standard od living is dropping worldwide and due to incoming recession will drop even further

its not just the vaccine but also the environment that was created ever since the beginning of the pandemic, overall depression and a feeling of impending doom that has reached majority population
for many normies this was the first time they got to see how much authoritarianism in in liberal western democracies
a pandemic with a less than 1% death rate for people that are healthy and dont have any comorbidities served as a convenient excuse to fuck you out of your freedom and basic rights
they have to keep up the act that covid is serious and these measures were totally necessary after scaremongering for basically nothing

what a joke

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>>14806602
>extreme stress and isolation amplify existing diseases and mental disorders (or making it more likely for mental disorders to break out)
... which then leads to higher overall mortaility
>they have to keep up the act that covid is serious and these measures were totally necessary after scaremongering for basically nothing
... and also the fear serves as a tool to make people not notice how much more wealthy big biz became
huge companies like amazon made record sheckels while small and medium size companies got stunted and fucked over, decreasing the competition for big biz
big pharma companies made record money from selling "vaccines", because its le pandemic money means nothing now we need to save lives yall its super important!
significant number of crongresspeople own stock in pharma companies, so there is their interest in overplaying this
they are basically paying themselves extra grants with tax money over proxy of pharma companies

never underestimate how much of a corrupt shithole your cuntry is

>> No.14806613

>>14806588
You must never have had a conversation with anyone who studied “education” before.

>> No.14806617

>>14806602
COVID basically ruined my life. I got le vax and everything, but the policy response ruined the city I was living in and made me incredibly isolated when it became obvious I should leave. The stress hormone damage on my brain has noticeably slowed me down. I cannot work from home. Without leaving my house and seeing other people IRL and changing scenes now and again, I just don’t work. Now I am ruined.

>> No.14806624

>>14806588
I was just pointing it out, not exactly making a point. But nursing isnt medicine, especially not nursing pedagogy

>> No.14806653
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>>14806617
similar for me
i also exercise regularily and since the vaccine i noticed that i cant build up stamina for cardio anymore
had to get it for work, now i get panic attacks and abnormal heart beat
during the pandemic my daily schedule broke apart (which i heavily rely on as autist), leaving me with little meaning or purpose for life anymore
i guess many people fulfill the symptoms of clinical depression during the pandemic, it seems to be a expected reaction to the shitty situation
you have to be a docile sheep or retarded cattle oblivious to your surrounding to not fall into depression, more so when common coping strategies dont work anymore (gyms closed, so no exercise, shopping for groceries is bothersome, never leaving house due to work at home and restricitons)

a symptom of the chronic overstress, from which there is little refuge, is constant fatigue, eating problems, sleep issues (and other psychosomatic problems)
at times i used to sleep up to 14 hours a day but still would wake up exhausted, never feeling refreshed from sleep
i would also sleep during the day from exhaustion

guess its similar for others

>> No.14806693

>>14806602
> its not just the vaccine but also the environment that was created ever since the beginning of the pandemic, overall depression and a feeling of impending doom that has reached majority population
for many normies this was the first time they got to see how much authoritarianism in in liberal western democracies.

> a pandemic with a less than 1% death rate for people that are healthy and dont have any comorbidities served as a convenient excuse to fuck you out of your freedom and basic rights

Have you considered the fact that 70% of U.S adults over the age of 18 are overweight or obese and that Long covid effects a large proportion of the young US population with estimates as high as one in 5 people who'd developed covid have long covid which has increased the prevalence of chronic fatigue syndrome especially adults of around age 30. I've known large numbers of people that I've worked closely with that either had suffered from chronic fatigue syndrome which I was formerly a well respected member of a online community centered on the treatment of cfs.
In many cased large numbers of people who'd developed covid or some who have taken the vaccines had a reactivation or developed Epstein-Barr virus after receiving the vaccine or developing covid. CFS is surprisingly common and its prevalence is increasing dramatically. So yes covid vaccinations are promoting cases of individuals who may've had a history of past EBV infection or newly developed EBV or had CFS from other sources.

> they have to keep up the act that covid is serious and these measures were totally necessary after scaremongering for basically nothing

1million americans have died and a dramatically larger proportion of people have went on to have life altering health or financial consequences from developing covid, long covid. or CFS of undefined cause.
Governments at large had failed to adequately address the covid pandemic and gave pharma companies a blank check. Stay healthy anon.

>> No.14806694

>>14806617
Take your booster and relax

>> No.14806696

>>14806653
>had to get it for work, now i get panic attacks and abnormal heart beat
Don't worry, you can still enjoy your work

>> No.14806697

>>14806693
>Long covid effects a large proportion
>long covid
>effects
It's just the vaccine dumb dumb

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>>14806617
>>14806653
Anons I have become a large presence within the nootropics and biohacking space for around a year and a half and in my pursuits I've wanted to explore novel drugs to improve human metabolic health and cognition. I'd suffered from Anxiety, depression, brainfog and irritability from from early childhood due to familial abuse. In my time in the nootropics community I've pioneered the use Rapamycin particularly intranasal use to target the brain particularly. I've later found intranasal insulin to be fantastic and intranasal deferoxamine was one of my latest introductions to the community which has attracted a large degree of followers of which 20 used deferoxamine intranasally and most either large positive benefit in cognition on metabolic health. Most have stated that deferoxamine is the best cognitive enhancing drug they've ever used.
Go into the wasoru /sci/ archives, and start looking up deferoxamine. I'd been stalked and impersonators have taken opportunity to plagiarize my work and some are fairly competent and wish to help while some trolls are out to ruin my credibility or motivation to continue. The picrel is about the first post the deferoxamine threads started and that thread was started by an impersonator. There's about 2 whole months of a long string of threads people have made on sci, pol, fit, and other boards about deferoxamine.
This may be one of the better threads in which an impersonator shares a large portion of my body of work which supports the use of intranasal deferoxamine and intranasal insulin for mitigation of cognitive disorders.
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/67429324

>> No.14806724

>>14806697
Nah I know a lot of unvaxxed with long covid

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>>14806549
Risk for the first cause of death in the world has increased globally because of Covid. Not surprising.

>>14806697
>It's just the vaccine dumb dumb
Long-covid was a thing long before the vaccines existed.

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>>14806549
>are not associated primarily with Covid
And that's where you're wrong

>> No.14806749

>>14806617
The isolation also made me pretty unproductive, but why don't you just go out and meet your friends again? After the March/April 2020 lockdown, the only effect mandates had on me was that I met my friends for hikes and movie nights at home rather than go to restaurants and bars. It actually made me fitter and I saved a shit ton of money. Just call up your friends and do something nice with them.

>> No.14806769

>>14806693
>Long covid effects a large proportion of the young US population with estimates as high as one in 5 people who'd developed covid have long covid which has increased the prevalence of chronic fatigue syndrome especially adults of around age 30. I've known large numbers of people that I've worked closely with that either had suffered from chronic fatigue syndrome which I was formerly a well respected member of a online community centered on the treatment of cfs.
if these people are fat then is them being fatties and having a shit cardiovascular system not the obvious explanation for the fatigue in their cases

long covid is a overhyped meme to mask the side effects of heavy handed authoritarian policy and associated anexiety and stress levels in the population
its for sure not just a coincidence that the symptoms of chronic stress are similar to long covid symptoms
>In many cased large numbers of people who'd developed covid or some who have taken the vaccines had a reactivation or developed Epstein-Barr virus after receiving the vaccine or developing covid.
possbile that there are some weird fucky interactions, but i would prefet to see a source on that to see how prevalent this really is
also covid shares DNA (yes its completely sequenced and openly available) with the AIDS virus
that could be an explanation for wrecked immune systems (more so than from other dieseases) and interaction with other illnesses

>1million americans have died and a dramatically larger proportion of people have went on to have life altering health or financial consequences from developing covid, long covid. or CFS of undefined cause.
ah, but the overwhelming majority of these cases have significant comorbidities
, so its a case of dieing with covid rather than dieing from covid
overall health took a hit, but the hysteria, anexiety and stress for sure played a big role in that
in my opinion the major role, but i doubt that there is any research in that direction for validation

>> No.14806779

>>14806749
>why don't you just go out and meet your friends
>Just call up your friends and do something nice with them
unfortunately not everyone is a normalfag
id wager that the average imageboard user has significant social deficits

still its possible to go out by yourself and nature can still be nice to counterbalance sitting in a room for extended times
likely one of the best things to do during lockdown, if you have the option and forests or similar hiking options in the immediate vicinity (not true for everyone)

>> No.14806916

>>14806715
>I'd suffered from Anxiety, depression, brainfog and irritability from from early childhood due to familial abuse
You got buttfucked by your uncle and now that you get placebo effect from haematochromatosis medications you wildly advertise them as universal solution for all kinds of mental ailments?

Are you the same shizo that claims viruses dont exist?

>> No.14806921

>>14806724
I know some who were harmed by hospital treatment regimens (organ damage from bad drug combos like remdesivir and opiates, and lung damage from ventilation injury) but nothing in people who avoided doctors.

>> No.14806934

>>14806617
have you tried getting a booster? It might help

>> No.14806935

>>14806549
Amogus

>> No.14806964

https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219?s=09
The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients—A Large Population-Based Study
Ortal Tuvali et al
April 2022
Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56) or pericarditis (aHR 0.53; 95% CI 0.25 to 1.13). We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection

>> No.14806966

>>14806964
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1
Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex
Patone et al
Myocarditis risk was increased during 1-28 days following a third dose of BNT162b2 (IRR 2.02, 95%CI 1.40, 2.91).
Associations were strongest in males younger than 40 years for all vaccine types
3 (95%CI 1, 5) and 12 (95% CI 1,17) events per million (...) after first dose of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively
14 (95%CI 8, 17), 12 (95%CI 1, 7) and 101 (95%CI 95, 104) additional events following a second dose of ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively;
and 13 (95%CI 7, 15) additional events following a third dose of BNT162b2,
compared with 7 (95%CI 2, 11) additional events following COVID-19 infection.

>> No.14806967

>>14806549
>These excess deaths are not associated primarily with Covid.
well nice of you to rule that out ...

>> No.14807132
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>>14806964
for each vaccine shot you have a 1 to 5000 chance of severe averse side reactions
with 3 shots that means in total you have a one in 1600 chance of severe side effects

that chance is higher than chance of death from covid or severe reaction to covid which is less than 0.05% for healthy adults with no comorbidities in my age group (18 to 25)

also myocarditis is listed a s a side effect in the data sheets of the vaccines making any claims that myocarditis or pericarditis have nothing to do with the vaccines a complete bullshit claim

>Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56) or pericarditis (aHR 0.53; 95% CI 0.25 to 1.13). We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection
so its just the vaccine that gives myo-/peri-carditis?

>> No.14807330

>>14806738
Your own image shows a difference between excess deaths and confirmed covid deaths.

>> No.14807346

>>14806613
Do you know what looking at official government data actually means?

>> No.14807372

if you couldn't convince your friends and relatives that getting vaccinated is dangerous, that's your fault for being an annoying schizo

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Oh no, looks like someone's lying by omission again.

>> No.14807390

>>14807376
Lol, 1 week was very low because of a bank holiday, but ignore all other 50 weeks it was high.

>> No.14807393

>>14806697
Fuck off mate, two of my rona symptoms have persisted since february and show no signs of going away. I haven't had any shots.

>> No.14808063

>>14807393
>permanent symptoms
Should have take the vaxx

>> No.14808187

>>14806964
>https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1
>Inpatient myocarditis and pericarditis diagnoses were retrieved from day 10 after positive PCR.
While I do not advocate vaccination for young people who have no comorbidities, don't be disingenuous. The researchers attempted to study the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis AFTER the COVID-19 infection, not during the acute phase which is when they manifest. The study is trying to understand if long-COVID is responsible for myocarditis and pericarditis rather than the actual infection - it's not really establishing a link between unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals.

>> No.14808189

>>14807393
What are the symptoms?

>> No.14808206

>>14808187
Where are you seeing what you quoted?

>> No.14808240

>>14808206
Wrong tab, it's this one:
>https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219?s=09

>> No.14808305

>>14808189
He's lying so he won't answer.

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>>14806549
>What could explain so many different countries all seeing a mysterious rise in deaths across younger demographics?
Geeeeeeeeeeeeee whut could it beeeeeeee?

>> No.14808413
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14808413

Da Vax!

>> No.14808434

>>14807132
the source youre quoting was exaggerating for attention. every other doctor agrees covid infection has a highwe, MUCH higher chance of giving you myocarditis than the vaccine. and your attempt to play around with numbers to make this sound even scarier is laughable. youre an idiot trying to spread fear and unrest. be gone.

>> No.14808476

>>14808434
>every other doctor agrees covid infection has a highwe, MUCH higher chance of giving you myocarditis than the vaccine.
Israel found that a COVID infection in 2020 (so, prior to the vaccines) resulted in no increased risk for myocarditis.

>> No.14808769

>>14808434
>youre an idiot trying to spread fear and unrest. be gone.
You're thinking of the people behind this plandemic.

>> No.14809199

>>14806588
>private sector worker misunderstanding government data
and I care why?

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>>14808434
>the source youre quoting was exaggerating for attention
prove it
explain how the public ministry of health is overstating the vaxx risk
>every other doctor agrees covid infection has a highwe, MUCH higher chance of giving you myocarditis than the vaccine
oh, which doctor are you quoting?
why appeal to some ominous authority with no name when we can look at publically available statistics provided by vaccine companies and public health institutions
those have more credibility than some doctor X you pull out of your ass to win some internet slapfight
>play around with numbers to make this sound even scarier
public statistics and data sheets from the vaccines provided by manufacturers?
>youre an idiot trying to spread fear and unrest.
you are an idiot that didnt inform itself, trying to spread confusion and gaslight anonymous strangers about publically available verified data.
you dont have to be like that, inform yourself, read the statistics, get a clue and then you can come back.

>> No.14809660

vaxcucks btfo

>> No.14809663

>>14806549
>These excess deaths are not associated primarily with Covid.
Source? Why the "primarily" caveat?

>> No.14809686

>>14807330
Yes, there are unconfirmed COVID deaths and other ways to die.

>> No.14809786

>>14806617
>blaming covid
I'm double vaxxed and had covid twice, once before the vax and once a year and a half after it (I gave it my best to get infected again, it wasnt easy).
And literally 0 issues, how genetically and mentally weak are you?

>> No.14809807

>>14806580
>shill with a degree in nothing

>> No.14809908
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14809908

>>14809686

There are also deaths falsely attributed to covid.

Please explain why there was a large spike of deaths in people not associated with COVID immediately following the vaccination campaign.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362427136_COVID-Period_Mass_Vaccination_Campaign_and_Public_Health_Disaster_in_the_USA_From_agestate-resolved_all-cause_mortality_by_time_age-resolved_vaccine_delivery_by_time_and_socio-geo-economic_data

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>>14809199

You don't care because you prefer your ego to truth.

People on /sci/ who aren't you, care, because they have greater characters than you have.

If you don't like science, then perhaps /b/ is more suited to your ability.

>> No.14810035

>>14809908
Probably lingering effects of Covid

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>>14809911
I'm not him and I also don't care what some old male nurse has to say in monetised videos. My guess is: his pension sucks and he just says whatever gives him the most clicks by the likes of you.

>If you don't like science, then perhaps /b/ is more suited to your ability.
If you like science, stop fanboying midwits on YouTube.
It seems to work, he probably earns more than my by playing /pol/tards like a fiddle. Hat's off, old man, but I couldn't sleep at night knowing that people OD'd on horse dewormer because of me.

>> No.14810673

>>14810049
>I couldn't sleep at night knowing that people OD'd on horse dewormer because of me.
Give me 1 death positively attributed to ivermectin overdose.

>> No.14810705

>>14809807
Nope, I have an md, neet faggot

>> No.14810709

>>14806598
>there's a war going on now
>War
>England
Are you retarded?

>> No.14810729

>>14806738
Note how the 'confirmed covid deaths' hooks up+down as the definition of 'covid death' changes.

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>>14810709
the invasion is hard to ignore
its very visible

>> No.14810744

>>14810735
why are there only muslim WOMEN on the streets?

>> No.14810751

>>14810729
>hooks up+down
>down
Where?

>> No.14810757

>>14810673
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/2-dead-after-taking-ivermectin-in-new-mexico

>> No.14810773

>>14810757
>The patient was on dialysis
Did you know most people die after drinking water?

>> No.14810780

>>14810049
>>14810757
>horse dewormer
You mean a decades old, FDA approved, Nobel prize winning, life saving drug used around the world? Or you're just saying you're an intentionally dishonest piece of shit who parrots propaganda?

>> No.14810786

>>14810709
There's less money, people travel less and are less active in general.
Like I didn't spend my vacation this year traveling the world but playing rust with russian psycho kids on cracked servers.

>> No.14810791

>>14810780
It's not not horse dewormer, though. If its use for horse deworming has no bearing on its potential efficacy in alleviating covid symptoms, then neither is its use as an antiparasitic in humans.

>> No.14810797

>>14806549
Many people that got seriously sick from covid but survived will have statistically significant shorter lifespan over the coming decades.

>> No.14810800

>>14810780
>FDA approved
for deworming
>Nobel prize winning
for its power as a dewormer
>life saving
if you live is threatened by worms inside you
>around the world
most of which is literal shit holes where people are infested with worms
>dishonest piece of shit who parrots propaganda?
Projection level over 9000

>> No.14810802

>>14806549
Long covid is real and thats exactly what causes all these deaths. Social distancing and masks fucking ended the flu but covid won't stop spreading. It 100% lies dormant in people instead of actually being purged by the immune system (like with influenza or rhino virus), and... simply nobody is trying to study any long term effects of covid or any of its alternate bevaioural patterns.

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14810803

>>14810049

You keep dragging the focus away from the data saying people are dying.

The man with a master's in medical biology and who has written medical textbooks merely compiled numerous sources from around the world.

You are simply distracting from the data because you are intellectually dishonest. Leave /sci/.

>> No.14810810

>>14810780

These subhumans need to stop posting their drivel here.

They don't have the ability to appreciate or conduct science. They are lower than peasants.

>> No.14810814

>>14808434
covid shots don't prevent you from contracting covid, so for all you know, you can get double myocarditis and nobody's gonna compensate you

>> No.14810818

>>14810800
is it approved for use in humans, yes or no? no need for clarification.

>> No.14810828

>>14810800
>Horse dewormer
>Approved for human use in 1987
So obviously you're just lying.

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14811683

It seems that whatever is causing this increase in mortality should be taken just as seriously as Covid was.

>> No.14811690

>>14810803
short covid kills the elderly, long covid kills the young. Not too hard to understand

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14811722

>>14806549
Remember all the people that coerced people and forced many people to take the "vaccines" or lose their jobs, property, etc.

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>>14811690
>long covid kills the young
is the vax.

>> No.14811786

>>14810757
This was proven fake btw. They didn't die of overdose.

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Bump.

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>>14812540
Remember this lol

>> No.14812656

>>14812548
>Gab/Parler
>That profile pic
topkek

>> No.14812680

>>14810705
And yet you took the vaxx while I didn't. Any MD worth their salt didn't take it, but you did, and because you're currently unemployed in spite of possessing an MD, you come here to bash neets who made the correct choice, as if by shitposting pseudoskeptical arguments you can warp reality to the point where you didn't make the wrong choice by trusting that the industrial medical media complex wouldn't lie to you.

>> No.14812685

>>14810744
All the white women are working.

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14812866

stop asking questions

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>>14812866
>potential
>may
>may

>> No.14812935
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>>14812548

Crazy shit posted on the internet.

Meanwhile.

>> No.14813019

>>14812680
I work 7 days on, 7 days off. Cope more

>> No.14813056

>>14813019
Not for much longer.

>> No.14813126

>>14812889
Autoimmune conditions are listed among the adverse events.

>> No.14813139

>>14813126
Not here:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/reactogenicity.html
Nor here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9039171/

>> No.14813252

>>14813139
Here: file:///home/chronos/u-a4d4e511618259772fe3bdd0ba6fc060b801c6b3/MyFiles/Downloads/SSA%20Appeal.pdf

>> No.14813311

>>14812889
do you want some case reports?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896841121001499
A 65-year-old woman was diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis after receiving the first dose of SARS-CoV-2 vaccine.

>> No.14813593

>>14813311
There was an epidemic in childhood autoimmune hepatitis in the UK of kids who were vaxed or were exposed to spike shed from vaxed parents.

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Remember Remember

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>>14813139
>.cdc.gov
>>14813139
>nlm.nih.gov

KEK! Those are not legit sources anymore.

>> No.14814270

>>14810735
Wow, what on earth could possibly explain a large number of muslim females wearing backpack walking to a bus stop OTHER than race replacement being pushed by the jooz?

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>>14814226
here's the full-res version of that photo

>> No.14814321

if a vaxcattle gets ade in a forest but there isn't a peer reviewed snopes verification, was it the vaccine?

>> No.14814527

>>14814226
>Those are not legit sources anymore.
Sounds like they know a thing or two about vaccines if they hold so many patents and produce vaccines. How many parents do you have?

>> No.14814533

>>14813593
One can tell it's bullshit without even googling for such an epidemic because
>spike shed
That was one of the best trolls of the pandemic. Suddenly, the antimaskers started wearing masks and distancing from strangers because they were afraid of le shed

>> No.14814534

>>14813252
Kek

>> No.14814781

>>14813593
didnt they blame an adenovirus for that?
I mean, maybe it was an adenovirus

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>>14806549
>Covid 19 Vaxx on your death statistics.
>Coming to Crunchy Roll this fall.

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>>14806549
>corona is super duper lethal
>according to authorities
>vax is super duper safe
>according to authorities
>Excess deaths above average around the world
>according to authorities
>"who are these people and where do they live? why in rural areas of course! it's normal that no one knows them!"
hmmm

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14816336

I won't ever take a covid vaxx, thank you and good night

>> No.14816355

>>14812935
higher than most elective surgery even risky stuff like vascular surgery, invasive procedures etc

some people who lack perspective think these are low numbers however

>> No.14816356

>>14806549
>What could explain so many different countries all seeing a mysterious rise in deaths across younger demographics?
Climate change

We can't compared unvaccinated regions with vaccinated regions though, that would be anti-science
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/11/world/asia/indonesia-java-buduy-sunda-wiwitan.html

>> No.14816391

>>14814781
The vax they used in the UK was an adenovirus vector. So yeah duh of course it was. It was the vax.

>> No.14816434

>>14816355
These numbers ARE low when considering personal risk, especially for young people being coerced into taking an emergency use gene therapy that has skipped long-term study.

>> No.14816492

>>14816434
It also drastically overcounts fatalities vs. infections. Most infected people will never notice because covid is a nothingburger. They won't even get tested.

>> No.14816546

>>14816492
Moreover, those numbers were based on a more dangerous variant. Why vaccine mandates are now being enforced after the vaccines have become worthless is a valid question.

>> No.14817053

>>14806732
The 15% rise in all cause mortality is not apparent in countries that didn't vaccinate

>> No.14817078

>>14817053
Got any numbers on this?

>> No.14817220

>>14817053
>is not apparent in countries that didn't vaccinate
maybe those countries also didnt overreact with crazy lockdowns
thats an important influence
quality of life is directly linked with life expectancy

>> No.14817231

>>14817220
Then the new narrative is that lockdowns killed more than covid

Not as bad as admitting the science juice was worse than covid I guess

>> No.14817232

>>14806732
>Long-covid
Hypochondriacs, psychogenic diseases, shitty diet, etc

>> No.14817283

>>14806598
>heart disease is the primary cause of death in general
Not any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F74iqEJnb14

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>>14817283
Hard pass.

>> No.14817747

>>14817078
I'll just check them on the Eurostat data today or tomorrow. I want to see if what is saying is true. There's enough data around Europe to see if this is happening in countries with lower vaccination rates.

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>>14806556

>> No.14817855

>the presently observed HERV activation is not induced by cytokines, or by inflammation due to viral infection, but rather by SARS-CoV-2 spike protein itself.
>[This study] revealed that SARS-CoV-2 via its spike protein may trigger HERV expression in human PBMC[...]
>Charvet, B. et al, 2021, SARS-CoV-2 induces transcription of human endogenous retrovirus RNA followed by type W envelope protein expression in human lymphoid cells. Accessed online at:
>https://europepmc.org/article/PPR/PPR311287

>[Here] we have analyzed HERV-H Env and HERV-W Env epitope expression on the surface of PBMCs [and have] analyzed serum antibody levels to the expressed HERV-H and HERV-W Env epitopes [the PBMCs had] higher antibody reactivities towards HERV-H Env and HERV-W Env epitopes.
>The higher antibody reactivities [...] correlate with the higher levels of HERV-H Env and HERV-W Env expression on B cells and monocytes.
>Brudek, T. et al., 2009. B cells and monocytes from patients with active multiple sclerosis exhibit increased surface expression of both HERV-H Env and HERV-W Env, accompanied by increased seroreactivity. Retrovirology, 6(1).

>"The resulting production of an endogenous protein of retroviral origin with pathogenic effects may generate clinical symptoms corresponding to the organ, tissue or cells, in which it is expressed and determined by the tropism of the triggering infectious agent."
>"Abnormal expression of human endogenous retroviruses (HERV) may become self-sustained, thus creating lifelong chronic expression from host‘s genome copies in affected tissues[...]"
>Charvet, B. et al

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>>14817855
>Syncytia formation [during placentation] could be specifically impaired by Syncytin-1 inhibition [through] specific antibodies[...]
>Grandi, N. and Tramontano, E., 2017. Type W Human Endogenous Retrovirus (HERV-W) Integrations and Their Mobilization by L1 Machinery: Contribution to the Human Transcriptome and Impact on the Host Physiopathology. Viruses, 9(7), p.162.

>The expression of other HERV proteins, triggered by viruses, especially EBV, can be harmful.
>It is now suggested that this is what happens in multiple sclerosis [...] type 1 diabetes [and the expression of HERVs may be associated with] schizophrenia.
>Vernon, G., Life, B., 2021. Of HERVs and COVID-19: questions for the future | BJGP Life. Accessed online:
>https://bjgplife.com/2020/05/21/of-hervs-and-covid-19-questions-for-the-future/

>Where there is significant similarity to engogenous retroviral peptide motifs, the human host may see them as “ALTERED SELF”. That MAY be a prescription for an allergenic response[...]
>Regions that may be recognized as altered self may be deleterious is[sic *if*] included in any vaccine formulation.
>There was in fact a SARS vaccine used in mice that elicited an allergic response upon challenge.
>Gallaher, W., 2021. Response to nCoV2019 Against Backdrop of Endogenous Retroviruses. Virological. Accessed online:
>https://virological.org/t/response-to-ncov2019-against-backdrop-of-endogenous-retroviruses/396

>> No.14818454

>>14817855

So the people saying the 'vaccine' would reverse transcribe itself into your genome may have been correct?

>> No.14818486

>>14818454
that's not what this is showing; although IIRC there is evidence it's activating LINE-1, so by my layman's understanding that would mean it theoretically /could/ be writing something in
what I'm pointing out is that the theory that the undeniable homology in the β-pleated sheet between the modified spike proteins and syncytin-1 is causing an allergenic autoimmune response against HERV-W-expressing tissues, as was apparently the case with the aforementioned SARS vaccine used on mice, might have some merit according these findings in the literature

>> No.14819521

>>14806715
what about the fungus?

>> No.14820036

>>14810814
This point was so often overlooked in these debates. The vaccines dont prevent "long covid", if such a thing even exist. If anything, I'd only assume they'd make it worse as they increase total exposure to the spike protein.

>> No.14820259

>>14818454
Not at all, schizo

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>>14806549
I put a summary of all my shared notes on the vax effects online
if you have any comments on how wrong am I, please go on

https://file.io/u1x1aVZeo183

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>>14806549
>What could explain so many different countries all seeing a mysterious rise in deaths across younger demographics?
Guess it will remain a mystery.

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>>14820339
that one was deleted, so I reupload all my notes here; sorted by categories

https://textup.fr/648248W1

>> No.14823512

>>14822751
thanks for sharing

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Get the jab, face the wheel.

>> No.14824280

>>14820036
This is what shills refuse to talk about. Vaccine spikes last for nearly a year in people's bodies, and that's if you're not constantly boosting. Long Covid is vaccine injury.

>> No.14824326

>>14824280
>Long Covid is vaccine injury.
More people are realizing this, and are angry. Some are still in denial, saying they "followed the science" and trying to deny reality. Others are being red-pilled or black pilled and pissed.

>> No.14824468

>>14824326
True, people are beating the absolute piss out of doctors in Australia because of it. It's very interesting to see how people will react in the coming months as the narrative unravels.

>> No.14824494

>>14824280
Eh, I know people who were infected very early on and ended up with long lasting issues like taste/smell derangement and elevated blood pressure. Not that I'm removing any responsibility from the vaccines, but I do think the early variants of SARS-CoV-2 were nasty. I'm really not hearing of anyone having problems after infection nowadays, vaccinated or unvaccinated.

>> No.14824512

>>14824494
People who got serious infections had elevated levels of spike protein in their blood, and that's what causes the lasting damage. The problem is, you're almost never going to get that badly ill but the shot is 100% effective at giving you the level of spikes that a badly ill person would get.

And you're now getting 5 shots, soon 6.

>> No.14824536

>>14824512
I think a major reason the original version and some of the earlier variants were so nasty is because they replicated like crazy in the lungs, so there was a high chance they'd break through to the blood stream. Omicron became more of an upper respiratory illness, though I've seen it suggested that BA.4/5 does better in the lungs compared to BA.1, but it may just be fear porn. But I agree that repeatedly boosting is a bad idea, especially as frequently as every six months. A lot of people I know who chose to get the vaccine have since been infected and decided that no more doses are necessary.

>> No.14824555

>>14824536
I guess we'll have to see. I think it's fear porn because it's been fear porn this whole time, but honestly the entire theatrical setup for this scamdemic has been exhausting. Possibly on purpose.

>> No.14824686

i pity the vaxcattle

>> No.14824695

>>14824686
Thanks for sharing this with us. Hugs and kisses

>> No.14824698

>>14824468
>True, people are beating the absolute piss out of doctors in Australia because of it.
Beating huh? Sounds like they getting off easy, so they will probably do worse next time.

>> No.14826666

>>14806549
>Excess deaths above average around the world
Who defines "excess"?

>> No.14826684

>>14826666
It's based on a baseline average of prior years for that time period.

>> No.14826690

>>14826684
So how far above the baseline are deaths in the last year? Are they rookie numbers still?

>> No.14826739

we have more factors to account for on here, such as that of people not going to the hospitals during the lockdowns and so not checking up for or within said times developing conditions. it's true too that the vaccine is harmful for those below 25

>> No.14826798

>>14826739
>the vaccine is harmful for those below 125yrs old.
FIFY

>> No.14828649

>>14826690
Anything above 5%. Portugal has almost caught up to 2021 despite a brutal winter against Alpha.

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>>14808406
Steroid and amphetamine abuse?

>> No.14830354

>>14826690
Anywhere between 10-15% across many nations.

It's about as many as were attributed to Covid, except skewed far younger.

>> No.14831964

>>14806715
>deferoxamine
lol why?? ive been reading about deferoxamine lately because i have iron overload. what effect could it possibly have on anxiety?

>> No.14832040

>>14806549
Zoom out.

>> No.14832310

I got 3 vaccines and have costochondritis I think, but it's only been a few weeks (3-4 weeks?) Hope it goes away.

>> No.14832324

>>14832310
I have no vaccines and haemorrhoids. I wish I had gotten the vax

>> No.14832357

>>14832040

You want to talk about this spike in deaths in 2021 of 25-49 year olds that isn't associated with Covid, but happens immediately following the mass vaccination?

>> No.14832375

>>14832357
Yes, please. Present data

>> No.14832496

>>14832375
Right here.

>>14809908

>> No.14834268

>>14832357
>>14832357
What's worse is that UK data shows more deaths during the Delta wave than through out 2020 despite some segments of the population already having two doses of the vaccine (roughly 80%) before the end of the summer. Unfortunaty data did not stratify by vaccination status but the numbers do not add at all.

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>>14806556
*yoink*

>> No.14834287

Deagel's forecast in 2015 was -70% depopulation by 2025.
2 more years ( and three months :) )
tick
tock
https://streamable.com/415q07
tick
tock

>> No.14834296

>>14806617
Kek extroverts should just rope

>> No.14834614

>>14834268
Weird how there was this push to vaccinate children and teenagers and now the UK is rescinding giving it to healthy 5-11 year olds...

Why do we keep waiting until problems arise in a general mass populace before recalling a treatment for something that really has like a 0% chance to kill a healthy child?

>> No.14835137

>>14834614
Stop mistaking Evil for idiocy.
Genocide IS the goal.

>> No.14835446

>>14835137
>Stop mistaking Evil for idiocy.

Well, many involved in the evil do so out of idiocy.

>> No.14835915

>>14806617
Filthy normie.

>> No.14835924

>>14817231
This is what mainstream Republicans already say

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>>14806549
The graph also shows fewer excess deaths than expected during some months. Individual data points fluctuate around the average.

>> No.14836359

>>14835940
This, there's no reason not to vaccinate and clamp.
It'll be good for the future of this flat plane.

>> No.14836476

>>14835940
Disingenuous faggot. Show the x axis data on your picture.

>> No.14836488

>>14836476
The same as >>1480654 faggot. Are chuds seriously that dumb?

>> No.14836490

>>14836488
I meant >>14806549

>> No.14837477

>>14835940
>The graph also shows fewer excess deaths than expected during some months

Yes, and those are generally in line with what is expected around those periods. Those may be end of months or reporting holidays, etc. They also are very small compared to the excesses that have no such in-built expectations.

>> No.14837495

>>14806549
Sorry, that was me. I'll stop killing people.

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So, where are all the concerned medical health professionals trying to save the lives of the masses in all of this?

Just 2 years ago we had countless doctors, nurses, professors, etc. telling us how we need to save everyone. Now this is out and they all do not speak out?

>> No.14841083

>>14839295
All of the principled ones were fired. Jab was a shibboleth for institutional agreement.

>> No.14841109

>>14806549
Vaxbros???

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>>14839295
>So, where are all the concerned medical health professionals trying to save the lives of the masses in all of this?
every now and then one critical voice would bubble up just to be silenced immediately

the state propaganda apparatus is very effective
>Just 2 years ago we had countless doctors, nurses, professors, etc. telling us how we need to save everyone
nitpicked by state propaganda outlets (media and "independent" journalists)
saving people is fine, pretending that the vaxx and shutdowns are an inevitable neccessity is not
those experts that state the latter were cut out, defamed and shamed

did you not pay any attention for the past 2 years to what is going on?
>Now this is out and they all do not speak out?
why would you talk about fucking up for 2 years and point out that you were playing a part in overhyping the sniffles for the great detriment of the population, making the poor poorer and the rich richer subsequently?
you would shut up and hope that everyone will just forget and focus on something else

no one of these creatures has a spine or dignity
people of that kind dont get to speak on public media

>> No.14842194

>>14841116
>why would you talk about fucking up for 2 years and point out that you were playing a part in overhyping the sniffles for the great detriment of the population, making the poor poorer and the rich richer subsequently?

Because admitting your wrong and doing penance is the only way to mitigate the damage caused by your mistake.

This board does have medical professionals, doctors, etc. that were responsible for defending the vaxx here. They have clearly abandoned this thread.

I'm making a request that they take this seriously. If everything indicated by these data continues to persist and worsen, ignoring it is not in their best interests.

They consider themselves to be doctors, nurses, experts. They consider themselves to be reasonably intelligent problem solvers. Well, they have just created a massive problem for themselves, and no amount of smug denial, or alcohol aided repression will save them.

Facing it, and using humanity's new, awesome resources just may.

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>>14842194
>Because admitting your wrong and doing penance is the only way to mitigate the damage caused by your mistake.
no politician ever does this
even if its painfully obvious they fucked up, even if the evidence is clear and they are punished (rarely happens) they will never ever admit to anything

mostly they will just shove someone else on the chopping block and find a way to weasel out

>I'm making a request that they take this seriously. If everything indicated by these data continues to persist and worsen, ignoring it is not in their best interests.
you assume rationality and reasonability
if no one is forced to adhere to that and cant jsut get away with being a hypocrite no one will go with that however
>ignoring it is not in their best interests.
ignoring is also very easy and convenient, much better than challenging the own wrongful assumptions and going through a (tedious and painful) cleansing and re-anchoring process

>They consider themselves to be doctors, nurses, experts. They consider themselves to be reasonably intelligent problem solvers.
"doctors, nurses, experts" dont really exist in this place and also members of those groups are not typical "problem solvers" either
>they have just created a massive problem for themselves, and no amount of smug denial, or alcohol aided repression will save them
denial of collaboration is easily possible
why is anyone supposed to take responsibility if no one forces them?
>will save them
leaving losing debates is a convenient way of preventing resolutions
if you dont genuinely care and are not personally invested there is too little loss

>> No.14842538

>>14842511
>no politician ever does this

Of course, but I'm not addressing politicians.

>you assume rationality and reasonability

I assume self-interest and a desire for self-preservation.

>if you dont genuinely care and are not personally invested there is too little loss

Your life is a lot to lose.

But most people have lost any sense of agency or self-determination. They are doomed to die without trying to avoid it, just as they were doomed to get the vaccine without questioning it. They choose not to believe they have choice.

>> No.14842563

>>14835940
Reporting and data collection isn't consistent each day, especially on weekends and holidays. It's unfortunate that's the case but at least they show the data as reported instead of trying to massage it to backdate what happened and end up screwing things up. We do need to have better reporting systems that don't cause anomalies each time someone goes out to watch fireworks and grill some hotdogs.

>> No.14842609

>>14842563

The thing is those anomalies appear in the averages, so it's at least somewhat easily accounted for and understood.

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>>14806549
DID YOU KNOW ACCORDING TO SCIENCE WE WILL ALL DIE.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHA

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/g74Y6nj9JGXK/

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>>14836488
You know exactly why I said that you dishonest twat.

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>>14806549

Gee, I wonder why.

>Sars-CoV-2 Spike Protein Activates Human Endogenous Retroviruses ( HERV-W )

>https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.18.21266111v2

>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=HERV-W

>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/394819504