/sfg/ - Space Flight General:

[Anonymous No.14725015]

LEO edition

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[Anonymous No.14725026]

>Astra $ASTR to sell and issue up to $100 million in common stock to a fund of B. Riley Financia
That means:
>Selling class A stock grants voting rights to the investors
https://investor.astra.com/news-releases/news-release-details/astra-announces-100-million-committed-equity-facility

[Anonymous No.14725029]

I want it to succeed. Looks much better than the Orbital Reefer.

[Anonymous No.14725031]

>>14725026
"Common stock" is trash paper with no guarantee of dividends or anything at all.
It's a desperation sign.

[Anonymous No.14725034]

Sentinel-1B is officially dead
Sentinel-1C will launch in the 2nd quarter of 2023.
https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-1/Mission_ends_for_Copernicus_Sentinel-1B_satellite

[Anonymous No.14725043]

>>14725034
JUICE will have a cruise phase that's longer than Sentinel-1B lifespan

[Anonymous No.14725045]

>>14725029
why do they dock that one module to the top docking port only to then immediately move it to to side to make way for the array module? why not dock it to the side docking port from the get go?

[Anonymous No.14725057]

>>14725029
>I want to force people to live/work in a hallway because I have autism

[Anonymous No.14725058]

>>14725057
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.14725066]

>>14725058
Anonymous

[Anonymous No.14725071]

>>14725045
Because it's a video made to demonstrate capabilities?

[Anonymous No.14725103]

>>14725071
capabilities of the canadarm?

[Anonymous No.14725127]

>>14725103
>Look at how modular our design is and how we can juggle modules around!
Tell me, do you ever have an original thought in your head or do you require spoonfeeding for every little thing?

[Anonymous No.14725142]

>>14725045
Hey man, a modern module can dock at as many ports as it wants before settling down with a port that will connect it with its resource stream. Don't be so last century.

[Anonymous No.14725159]

Why is Axiom autist so mad?

[Anonymous No.14725173]

>>14725159
>Axiom autist
Who's that? More than one person can think you're a retard here, you know.

[Anonymous No.14725178]

>>14725142
>Hey man, a modern module can dock at as many ports as it wants before settling down with a port that will connect it with its resource stream. Don't be so last century.
true and valid
>>14725173
seething

[Anonymous No.14725188]

>>14725173
Who's that?
The faggot who keeps 'answering' posts with catty questions and is visibly mad over nothing, aka you.

[Anonymous No.14725191]

>>14725188
I didn't post the axiom webm. Stop being such a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.14725197]

>>14725191
Yet you remain the autist we're talking about.

[Anonymous No.14725200]

>>14725197
>We
There's one salty retard here who didn't care for having his retardation pointed out, that's you.

[Anonymous No.14725208]

>>14725200
>deflection
Which posts did you make where you pointed out my alleged retardation? You have autism, and not the good kind.

[Anonymous No.14725232]

I'm sorry I asked the initial question about the module deployment. I was just genuinely curious

[Anonymous No.14725234]

>>14725232
It's your fault for talking about space flight in /sfg/

[Anonymous No.14725238]

>>14725232
you angered the collagefag
it happens

[Anonymous No.14725239]

>>14725015
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.14725246]

>>14725239
good morning precious

[Anonymous No.14725247]

>>14725015
>>14725026
>>14725029
>>14725034
>>14725071
>>14725127
>>14725173
when will the schizo menace kill itself?

[Anonymous No.14725302]

Reminder that if you have not had a /sfg/ tab continuously open on your browser for the length of a opposition-class Mars mission you are not welcome here and should go back

[Anonymous No.14725313]

Reminder that if you have not had a /sfg/ tab continuously open on your browser for the length of a conjunction-class Mars mission you are not welcome here and should go back

[Anonymous No.14725319]

>>14725313
>>14725302
reminder to take your meds (estrogen)

[Anonymous No.14725325]

>>14725319
opposition-class cuck detected

[Anonymous No.14725350]

>>14725313
>Space plane capsule has a separate, disposable service module.

Why do they always do this?
Why not just integrate that stuff into the re-entry vehicle?

[Anonymous No.14725356]

>>14725350
>we were too dumb

[Anonymous No.14725383]

>>14725325
>Still spend 4+ months with dick in hand on the way to Mars
>calls someone a cuck
Oh that's rich. Post brought to you by the Brachistochrone path transfer gang.

[Anonymous No.14725394]

>>14725350
there's some stuff that's so easy to replace that it's cheaper to just dispose of it than give it TPS. space station trash and empty RCS fuel tanks are always the top two candidates for that.

[Anonymous No.14725395]

>>14725383
>Brachistochrone path transfer gang
post working engines for this daydream lol

[Anonymous No.14725396]

>>14725395
Post plans for an actual NASA Mars mission lol

[Anonymous No.14725397]

>>14725350
Why would you keep pushing it up and down the gravity well? Put it into orbit once and that's the end of it.

[Anonymous No.14725407]

>>14725396
SLS is real

[Anonymous No.14725412]

>>14725395
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsed_nuclear_thermal_rocket

[Anonymous No.14725413]

>>14725395

[Anonymous No.14725418]

>>14725412
>>14725413
>paper rockets are working rockets
c'mon man!

[Anonymous No.14725450]

Musk has in the past talked about building a large scaled ion thruster for future space propulsion, in some early 2010s interviews

Speculation time, whats more efficient? Giant ion thruster (Starship) or smaller ion thruster (Crew Dragon size) powered by nuclear electric generator?

[Anonymous No.14725455]

moon bases will be so much cooler than orbital bases

[Anonymous No.14725459]

>>14725455
you can just make an orbital base out of stone

[Anonymous No.14725475]

>>14725450
>Speculation time, whats more efficient? Giant ion thruster (Starship) or smaller ion thruster (Crew Dragon size) powered by nuclear electric generator?
I don't understand the question. You can't get to Mars in Dragon and if you could it would be useless.

[Anonymous No.14725480]

>>14725475
There's more to space than just going from Mars to Earth.

[Anonymous No.14725487]

>>14725459
kek. so obsessed with orbital habitation he's become delusional.

[Anonymous No.14725495]

Brachistochrone trajectory with aerobraking, think about it.

[Anonymous No.14725501]

>>14725455

[Anonymous No.14725511]

Probably irrelevant, but I calculated the FTL speeds of the Nostromo and Sulaco from the Alien films and how they compare with Star Trek's warp drive.
>>>/tv/172046735

[Anonymous No.14725529]

>>14725501
I know these things can be hard to admit anon, but pressurized holes in the ground are simply better than O'neill cylinders.

[Anonymous No.14725530]

I know nothing about space flight, but can someone redpill me on China's progress in space?

[Anonymous No.14725532]

>>14725511
The slowest hyperdrive in print SF I know is Larry Nivens which has a fixed speed of 120 c

[Anonymous No.14725535]

>>14725407
>Year 2033
NASA will never make it in that short of a deadline. But maybe they can make the 2048 window.

[Anonymous No.14725537]

>>14725529
>already living in a gravity well
>want to live in a physical well at the bottom of it
no way fag

[Anonymous No.14725538]

>>14725529
Wrong pic?

[Anonymous No.14725541]

>>14725450
I dont buy it. You're gonna need something based on non meme fuels like helium

[Anonymous No.14725544]

>>14725529
Pressurized holes in the ground are a better first step but O'Neill Cylinders and other similar free-floating, and potentially self-sustaining habitats have far more potential.
But if you're really into holes in the ground and want some sci-fi about it, Hugh Howey's Silo trilogy is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.14725547]

>>14725530
They've gone to Mars, to Moon, to any of the orbits America has gone to, except deep outer space(other planets), they have ISS/Mir clone, their entire rocket launch industry is matched by SpaceX (alone).

They were slow to space but picked up pace rapidly in the last decade or so.

[Anonymous No.14725552]

>>14725537
Wellchads are stronger than cylinderlets, and have a monopoly on mass. we will throw rocks at you until you leave. the only time away from the subterranean depths should be spent in transit to new planetary bodies to tunnel into.

[Anonymous No.14725563]

>>14725552
>we will throw rocks at you

[Anonymous No.14725567]

>>14725552
>have a monopoly on mass
try digging more than 1% of Mars's radius down and get back to me. most of the planets mass is completely unavailable for use
>we will throw rocks at you until you leave
throwing things uphill at a target that is far more nimble than you is a solid plan lol

[Anonymous No.14725582]

>>14725232
Never apologize when anons are being fags about your serious questions.
What I want to know is who let Axiom steal that ISS module on the way out

[Anonymous No.14725590]

Why don't we just use giant railgun to launch stuff into space? I feel like even if it broke/melted after 1 use, it would still be cheaper than spending 100 million on rockets.

[Anonymous No.14725605]

>>14725590
We are cursed with this thickened atmosphere, which makes it difficult. When we get to the moon, a giant catapult will be far easier and in fact necessary to the long-term plan.

[Anonymous No.14725620]

>>14725532
Depending on the distance to Jupiter, the Discovery One from 2001: A Space Odyssey is traveling at a speed from 'just' 27,777 to 45,738 miles per hour (0.00004-0.00006% of light speed). Whereas 120c is maybe somewhere over 1.295 trillion miles per hour (I think).

[Anonymous No.14725631]

>>14725590
Show me the railgun and rocket (cause you still need to circularize) that destroys itself after every use and costs 1000$/kg to LEO. I think you might be a retard.
A coilgun on the moon however that doesn't destroy itself might be very economically advantageous for launching bulk cargo but still would cost billions upfront.

[Anonymous No.14725644]

>>14725605
just stop the Earths rotation and the atmosphere will freeze out on the darkside ez

[Anonymous No.14725650]

>>14725552
is the pic from that manga than was made into a netflix anime?

[Anonymous No.14725661]

>>14725644
why do you keep posting this

[Anonymous No.14725670]

>>14725450
>large scaled ion thruster
Typically they're clustered and/or nested as larger electric thrusters wouldn't necessarily have higher efficiency in terms of newtons per kW or have a better thrust-to-surface area ratio. They would however require a larger power source and that could benefit from scale since larger reactors generally have a better specific power, but that can come with it's own set of problems, particually if it means switching to a more intensive thermodynamic cycle that requires the use of turbines. In either case the reactor would still be heavy as fuck which is why nuclear electric propulsion has no good application inside the main asteroid belt, full stop. Solar electric has better delta-v and acceleration but still slow enough over modest distances that it's mostly suited for asteroid mining and high delta-v transfers with no aerobraking available, such as Earth to Mercury.

Beam-powered electric propulsion is as close to ideal as you can get with electric propulsion but that's further off and it would require setting up another power source at the destination to stop incoming spacecraft. You could technically stop with chemical propulsion in a hybrid propulsion system but carrying all that extra mass is great disadvantage. Anyway, this is something SpaceX could actually be interested in because once the infrastructure is set up it has very low upmass requirements and a low spacecraft cost, in contrast with other advanced propulsion designs like fusion which would be much more expensive than chemical or electric.

[Anonymous No.14725685]

>>14725552
and removing rocks only makes Goblin-town bigger. they can not defeat us
my only fear is that we throw away so many rocks that what remains is a hollow sphere and then we will be no better that cylinderoids

[Anonymous No.14725687]

>>14725661
I've not posted it for months and why do blond qts upset you anyway?

[Anonymous No.14725762]

Liar in chief got fired from Verge haha
https://twitter.com/lorengrush/status/1554842039358996480

[Anonymous No.14725770]

https://youtu.be/cuuEzmi07ns
>WE ARE GOIN' BACK!

[Anonymous No.14725779]

>>14725552
>wellfags when you throw an RKM at their big, immobile homeworld
another easy win for cylinder bros

[Anonymous No.14725795]

>>14725770
Wymin and nggers.

[Anonymous No.14725796]

>>14725770
>back
?

[Anonymous No.14725815]

>>14725796
Apollo had esoteric purposes conspiracies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apollo was a fraud conspiracies

[Anonymous No.14725833]

>>14725815
>jettison used landing module into the sun
Wouldn't that require a ton more energy than even the full-stack Saturn V? I realize this is some gay Chick tract but the audacity of the claim caught my attention.

[Anonymous No.14725838]

>>14725815
those aren't mutually exclusive
"apollo" was an esoteric masonic fraud

[Anonymous No.14725872]

>>14725833
yes. at some point somebody confused the apollo 10 LM going into heliocentric orbit for every LM being thrown into the sun itself.

[Anonymous No.14725873]

>>14725833
It would require an absurd amount of energy. Dropping something into the Sun takes more delta-v than putting it onto a solar escape trajectory. It's even worse in actual practice since you don't have any convenient gas giants to grab a gravity assist from.

[Anonymous No.14725875]

>>14725815
>>14725838
Shoo shoo! Back to the catalog with you! This is a no schizo thread.

[Anonymous No.14725877]

>>14725833
yeah that part is false, the LM ascent stage was left in LLO. iirc the S-IVB went into a heliocentric orbit so that might be the point of confusion
>>14725838
can't do prima materia magick with phoney moonrock noob, the demons will eat you

[Anonymous No.14725878]

>>14725833
>Wouldn't that require a ton more energy than even the full-stack Saturn V?
It's apparently possible if the module was reduced to like <100kg, but yes, anytime someone mentions putting something into the Sun you know they're full of shit. Nuclear waste disposal is a particularly stupid example of this.

[Anonymous No.14725879]

>>14725873
isn't some solar probe using Venus to lower its orbit every once in a while

[Anonymous No.14725883]

>>14725873
hullo showed that you can do a reverse gravity assist around jupiter to throw stuff into the sun so it's actually the same level of difficulty in practice as solar escape. just very roundabout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNS6VKNXY6s

[Anonymous No.14725886]

>>14725875
bwahaha make us

[Anonymous No.14725903]

>>14725877
how did occultists do magic before the "moon missions"?

>>14725875
>This is a no schizo thread
kek, you have "people" on here regularly entertaining delusional fantasies of working as truckers on mars

[Anonymous No.14725918]

>>14725903
Masonic thaumaturgy? Human sacrifice is the go to. Gotta kill a king to get your Moon roggs

[Anonymous No.14725933]

>>14725918
johnson WAS a freemason, true

[Anonymous No.14725934]

TLDR of the NASA briefing? I could not watch it due to reasons.

There is an extended briefing on Friday but if today's one was cringe I will not watch it.

[Anonymous No.14725941]

>>14725058
he quoted (You) retard

[Anonymous No.14725977]

>>14725883
The year is 3033. You are mission director for nasa. You have infinite money. Your job is to put a man on the sun and bring back. Wwyd.

[Anonymous No.14725987]

FTL is possible…right?

[Anonymous No.14725990]

>>14725977
>Your job is to put a man on the sun
Give me an operational definition of 'on the sun'. technically the Earth moves through its outermost layers

[Anonymous No.14725993]

>>14725941
Why are you lying?

[Anonymous No.14725994]

>>14725987
Theoretically possible or practically possible?

[Anonymous No.14725995]

>>14725993
Why are you retarded? oh yeah, almost forgot

[Anonymous No.14726003]

>>14725995
You said he quoted me, but I have never said such thing. You're a liar.

[Anonymous No.14726011]

>>14725994
I guess both. I understand it requires “negative mass” which sounds retarded.

[Anonymous No.14726020]

>>14725762
Doing more hit pieces on Musk since she's joining (((Bloomberg))) who has been one of the chief nonstop FUD against Musk/SpaceX/Tesla

[Anonymous No.14726023]

Road closure at Starbase canceled. No static fires this week. Disappointing but they’re ramping up production of vehicles because Booster 9 is being stacked and Booster 8 is ready to roll out

[Anonymous No.14726027]

Gentlemen, we have a new contender in the insufferable personality contest, they love ASS(Axiom Space Station) and they don't care who knows it

[Anonymous No.14726033]

>>14726027
Why are you like this?

[Anonymous No.14726034]

>>14726003
You're a retard.

[Anonymous No.14726035]

>>14726033
>>14726027
Dreamchaser, like SLS, would’ve been cool 10 years ago

[Anonymous No.14726036]

>>14726033
Big dick, high IQ

[Anonymous No.14726039]

>>14726034
You're rude.

[Anonymous No.14726050]

>>14725990
Touch the glowy bit nigga come on maan

[Anonymous No.14726060]

>>14725886
Wonder which disease was created on an abacus.
I sort of want to make one of those schizomobiles just for fun to see how crazy I can get with it.

[Anonymous No.14726069]

>>14726060
>Wonder which disease was created on an abacus.
Algebra

[Anonymous No.14726072]

>>14726011
Pretty much. There are a few solutions to Einstein's field equations that allow for moment that's (kinda sorta) faster than lightspeed, but just because the math checks out doesn't mean you can actually build a propulsion system around the idea. They all require some kind of exotic special bullshit like matter with negative mass or negative energy density that (while physically possible) have no known means of production and have never been observed in nature.

[Anonymous No.14726074]

>>14726035
Spaceplanes have always been cool.

[Anonymous No.14726091]

>>14726074
Source:
made it up lol

[Anonymous No.14726103]

Pretty soon it will be 2 years since SN8 launched

[Anonymous No.14726116]

>>14725987
>>14726072
Reminder that the speed of light in a vacuum is NOT a constant. It can be raised.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scharnhorst_effect

[Anonymous No.14726120]

>>14726116
>go really fast
>universe gets cranky and won't let you
Never made any sense to me

[Anonymous No.14726123]

>>14725529
>stuck with whatever gravity you happen to have
>supplies need to come down the well and go back up the well to get anything anywhere
they are categorically not.

[Anonymous No.14726135]

>>14726060
>I sort of want to make one of those schizomobiles just for fun to see how crazy I can get with it.
Have another for inspiration

[Anonymous No.14726136]

>>14725977
>Astronauts POV

[Anonymous No.14726148]

>>14726123
>stuck with whatever gravity you happen to have
Dealbreaker for me, if you can't reach the zero g funzone by elevator you are NOT a spacer

[Anonymous No.14726155]

>>14726116
Modifying the speed of light in a nanometer volume between a pair of casmir plates is interesting, but not obviously applicable to a hyperdrive.

>>14726120
It's not that complicated. The faster you go, the fatter you get. Since all rocketry is ruled by mass ratios this leads to fuel related problems.

[Anonymous No.14726163]

how come everytime I research space elevators theres only explanations for how it would be to build it yet zero info on how the elevator cavin would actually move up and down?

[Anonymous No.14726171]

>>14726155
>not obviously applicable to a hyperdrive.
its a chink in the armour and knowledge of it is a good way to style on lesser physics autists

[Anonymous No.14726177]

>>14726163
because it's so trivial to mention

[Anonymous No.14726181]

>>14726116
Based. Remember when the prediction of cosmological constant with quantum vacuum fluctuations confirmed by the casimir effect turned out 120 orders of magnitude too large?
Understanding the vacuum really is the key to godhood.

[Anonymous No.14726184]

>>14726136
Ame...

[Anonymous No.14726191]

>>14726171
It does present some interesting possibilities outside of propulsion. You could probably build a superluminal optical processor in the thin volume of modified c.

[Anonymous No.14726192]

>>14726191
>You could probably build a superluminal optical processor
bro i'd take a regular terahertz processor desu

[Anonymous No.14726200]

>>14725532
>Mfw read Ringworld
Was bretty interesting desu senpai. I only hope refining of steel and nitrates happens before I die around 2075

[Anonymous No.14726201]

>>14726163
It's pretty much guaranteed to be electric motors, but what powers it is an open question

I've seen various proposals ranging from solar to laser to straight up turning the elevator cable into a conducting wire that generates its own power as it moves through the magnetic field of the earth

[Anonymous No.14726216]

https://spacenews.com/rs-25-delays-impact-aerojet-earnings/
>Eileen Drake, president and chief executive of Aerojet Rocketdyne, said on the call that production of the new RS-25 engines has been delayed by supply chain issues related to testing of the engines.
>“Those delays are not related to lack of raw materials or components, but rather they’re related to delays in first article qualification testing as we continue to ramp up our supply chain again after several decades without any RS-25 production,” she said. She didn’t elaborate on the issue beyond issues with “first article inspections and starting up those programs again.”

Imagine being so hell-bent on reusing old tech you forgot to check if anyone still knew how to make it

[Anonymous No.14726221]

I bet you could build a steam engine to climb that bad boy

[Anonymous No.14726226]

Do any other /sfg/bros feel a strange longing for the wider cosmos? I feel as if I belong there, and will return to them one way or another.

[Anonymous No.14726228]

>>14726221
Was there some missing plot from that game or something? The interplanetary mission mentioned nowhere else returns at the end of the game/war, makes for a cool moment but kind of came out of nowhere. I want to know more about Strangereal's space program, the megastructures their world funds are always cool if impractical.
>oh fuck, asteroid swarm incoming
>"QUICK, BUILD A MASSIVE RING OF CANNONS! WE WILL SHOOT THEM DOWN!"

[Anonymous No.14726229]

>>14726226
And then you turn 14

[Anonymous No.14726230]

>>14726229
I’d do many things different.

[Anonymous No.14726231]

>>14726216
>Imagine being so hell-bent on reusing old tech you forgot to check if anyone still knew how to make it
this is not what's happening. it's just deliberate making up of problems by aerojew shekelstein to extort more money from the taxpayer.

[Anonymous No.14726256]

>>14726226
We ALL feel like that ALL the time, you don't hear any of us gushing about it!

[Anonymous No.14726258]

Interesting, so there's someone out there who wants to build robot arms for the future private space station market

https://gitai.tech/en/2022/08/04/gitai-develops-a-10-meter-robotic-arm-for-space-and-completes-the-proof-of-concept-demonstration-trl-3/

[Anonymous No.14726268]

>>14726258
I can't see that being a very big market but at least it'll be cheaper than having more arms built by the Canadians. I wonder what they could build besides arms.

[Anonymous No.14726280]

Astra seems to have a decent side business of building ion engines for satellites. Why don’t they just scrap the Rocket 3/4 stuff and focus on that?

[Anonymous No.14726285]

>>14726280
Having aspirations for new business is kind of a requirement as a publicly-traded company

[Anonymous No.14726289]

>>14726285
True but it looks like the commercial launch market is small anyways. Why not make satellites?

[Anonymous No.14726290]

>>14726256
I like to reach out sometimes and see others with the same feelings; it is less isolating.

[Anonymous No.14726294]

>>14726268
legs?

[Anonymous No.14726328]

>>14726201
but you would stil need some wheels right? the friction would be crazy

[Anonymous No.14726339]

>>14726256
Me like earth and earthlike planets. Space is a shithole.

[Anonymous No.14726342]

>>14726328
Dont quote me on this but i've read once youre half way up you just naturally start falling upwards

[Anonymous No.14726344]

>>14726294
>legs
It's all starting to come together

[Anonymous No.14726367]

>>14726228
It was in development hell for years. The story was pieced together with the stuff they had finished.

[Anonymous No.14726370]

>>14726342
You start being pulled upwards once you pass through geostationary orbit.

[Anonymous No.14726412]

>>14726228
Yeah, an artbook that came with the special edition mentions that one of the characters from Ace Combat 5 became an astronaut and later led an asteroid redirection mission

[Anonymous No.14726419]

>>14726226
we won't ever reach another galaxy

[Anonymous No.14726426]

>>14726419
Who knows, if humanity can survive long enough the Andromeda collision will technically be us in another galaxy

[Anonymous No.14726433]

>>14726426
if we don't go extinct when that collision happens whatever humanity and life of Earth evolved into by then would be unfathomable to us now

[Anonymous No.14726437]

>>14726419
Pussies like you won’t

[Anonymous No.14726474]

>>14726290
Someday, anon.

[Anonymous No.14726487]

>>14726412
Damn, that would have been cool to include in the storyline a bit more, at least set it up a little at the start so the return at the end is a payoff of some sort.
I'd love if the next one has a mission like AC3 where you get boosted into a suborbital trajectory and have like 3 minutes to shoot down some target before reentering. That was rad.

[Anonymous No.14726497]

Now that the dust has settled, does a rogallo wing make a spaceship a conventional parachute landing capsule or a space plane?

[Anonymous No.14726502]

both rogallo wings and parachutes create and upward force (lift) so they are both spaceplanes

[Anonymous No.14726513]

>>14726497

[Anonymous No.14726542]

>>14726513
Was Concord Gemini derived?

[Anonymous No.14726546]

>>14726280
Ion thrusters aren't that hard to build, like a lot of generic satellite parts they likely have a fairly low profit margin, and Apollo Fusion wasn't a particularly good company before Astra picked them up. They caught a bunch of shit for trying to use mercury propellant before it was banned, in hopes of increasing thrust but electrostatic propulsion is just limited in that regard. For maneuvering near Earth I'd rather see microwave electrothermal thrusters which have lower Isp but more thrust and they can use plain water instead of expensive noble gases. Overall it's a better fit for a world with Starship in it and the resulting rideshare opportunities which are unfavourable to non-hypergolic chemical propellant(boil-off, loading issues), toxic hypergolics, and just anything uses a high pressure system since a leak could jeopardize other payloads.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/mercury-ion-thruster-banned

[Anonymous No.14726561]

EARTHER (derogatory)

[Anonymous No.14726564]

>>14726502
No.

[Anonymous No.14726570]

>>14726502
>creates upward force (lift)
By that rationale pretty much anything is a plane. Producing appreciable lift with wings is what matters, which is why spaceplane is a misnomer and lifting body aircraft or spacecraft aren't actually considered planes.

[Anonymous No.14726627]

>>14726561

[Anonymous No.14726630]

Is this true bros, I've never heard of Earth getting a binary star

[Anonymous No.14726632]

>>14725029
>30 seconds to build a space station
>still not finished
what's the hold up?

[Anonymous No.14726634]

>>14725178
The phrase to put "lipstick on a pig" means making superficial or cosmetic changes to a product in a futile effort to disguise its fundamental failings.

[Anonymous No.14726635]

>>14726630
It's not going to be that close, but it will pass close enough to fuck with the Oort cloud

[Anonymous No.14726641]

>>14726635
it is the doomsday event you fool

[Anonymous No.14726650]

>This chart illustrates the power/performance curve by showing the amount of impulse that can theoretically be generated per megawatt hour using electric propulsion, as a function of exhaust velocity. Real world performance will be somewhat lower due to efficiency losses, but this shows the relationship between thrust, ve and power. We see that impulse per MWh varies from 72,000 kg-m/s (ion drive, ve ~ 100,000 m/s) to 1,400,000 kg-m/s (RF arcjet, ve ~ 5000 m/s). A Hall Effect thruster, a flight proven technology, would yield about 300,000 kg-m/s per MWh.
lmao at pathetic VASIMR

[Anonymous No.14726654]

MARTIAN (derogatory)

[Anonymous No.14726677]

>>14725762
That person is stupid and was not fit to cover spaceflight.

[Anonymous No.14726688]

>>14726630
>in about 1.29 million years
>at a predicted minimum distance of 10520 AU
>>14726635
>close enough to fuck with the Oort cloud
better get those dragons ready to fight the thread

[Anonymous No.14726697]

Gemini MOL
The Gemini capsule in this flight was the refurbished vehicle that flew Gemini 2, btw

[Anonymous No.14726698]

>>14726635
will it come closer than voyagers

[Anonymous No.14726701]

>>14726677
Luckily they're now covering spaceflight at an even bigger, even more jewish organization.

[Anonymous No.14726722]

>>14726650
The real world exhaust velocity is indeed much lower than that and the ridiculous input power requirement gives very uses for VASIMR even if they get it working for more than a 100 hours in order to advance to the next technology readiness level. It could be the SLS of electric propulsion

[Anonymous No.14726739]

>>14726722
Reminder that we had faggots here defending VASIMR a few months back, saying Zubrin was out of line for calling it bullshit

[Anonymous No.14726742]

5 hours until the first of 6 potential launches in a single day

[Anonymous No.14726762]

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/with-solar-arrays-now-operational-lucys-got-some-shimmering-to-do/

>NASA confirmed this week that its Lucy mission to explore a series of asteroids has a clean bill of health as it approaches a key gravity assist maneuver in October.

>In a new update, the space agency said Lucy's solar arrays are "stable enough" for the $1 billion spacecraft to carry out its science operations over the coming years as it visits a main-belt asteroid, 52246 Donaldjohanson, and subsequently flies by eight Trojan asteroids that share Jupiter's orbit around the Sun.

>This spring, the engineers decided the best course was to fire both the primary and backup deployment motors for the solar array simultaneously in hopes that this additional force would unstick the lanyard.

>So from May 6 to June 16, on seven different occasions, engineers commanded the deployment motors to power on, and these efforts helped. Out of a full 360 degrees, NASA says the solar array is now between 353 and 357 degrees open. And while it is not fully latched, it is now under sufficient tension to operate as needed during the mission.

In the end all they had to do was tell the spacecraft to "let 'er rip"

[Anonymous No.14726771]

>>14726762
>stable enough
the fact that they didn't latch it irritating

[Anonymous No.14726777]

>>14726771
Northrup Grumman's going to be wearing that badge of shame for a while

[Anonymous No.14726819]

>>14726762
>>14726771
>>14726777
>Pac-man in space
nice

[Anonymous No.14726864]

/sfg/ is the Heaven's Gate of 4chan

[Anonymous No.14726867]

Just for the sake of argument.

Does HLS have enough fuel to make it back to Earth after the landing on the moon?

[Anonymous No.14726871]

>>14726867
Probably in some orbit where it can refuel.

[Anonymous No.14726885]

>>14726867
I don't think they're planning for HLS to be able to leave the lunar surface to NRHO circut once it gets there, but they have also been pretty quiet on what exactly happens to the lander once the mission is over.

That being said, I did see some envelope math a while back that said it was possible for a HLS starship to launch to the moon from LEO, land on the moon, and then do a direct flight back to LEO on a single tank of gas. Given that this was talking about designs using Raptor 1s it's probably a little more that just possible. I hope it is because it would mean that we could cut out SLS, Gateway, and Orion all in one go.

[Anonymous No.14726935]

it begins
https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1554941826892648448
https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1554913782891257856
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1554910647871164417

[Anonymous No.14726937]

>>14726935
Why is ULA antagonizing the chinese right now? it's not the time

[Anonymous No.14727021]

sfg is asleep

[Anonymous No.14727025]

>>14727021
8/4 is going to be a pretty busy day. We're gathering our strength.

[Anonymous No.14727072]

>>14727025
Astra earnings call will be hilarious

[Anonymous No.14727080]

>A bit of late afternoon work at KSC pad 39A Wednesday with a large tank section lowered into place to the left of SpaceX's unfinished Super Heavy-Starship gantry; the gantry's 6th segment is expected to be moved to the pad for installation early next week
https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews/status/1554987005158858754

[Anonymous No.14727088]

>>14727080
>early next week
too slow wtf

[Anonymous No.14727095]

>>14727080
>the gantry
cringe

[Anonymous No.14727096]

the launch ring is gonna arrive at the pad fully outfitted. theyre not going to have time to make ships and boosters before the florida launch site is complete.

[Anonymous No.14727110]

[Anonymous No.14727138]

>>14727096
Source: it was revealed to me in a dream

[Anonymous No.14727141]

[Anonymous No.14727162]

Air-launch is cool and futuristic.

[Anonymous No.14727194]

>>14727162
Virgin detected

[Anonymous No.14727196]

Any stream for chinklaunch located?

[Anonymous No.14727197]

why is posing in front of rockets a thing now

[Anonymous No.14727199]

>>14727196
i dont think they stream these ones

[Anonymous No.14727201]

>>14727199
What about the spaceplane later?

[Anonymous No.14727202]

>>14725977
Send a clone of Ballast Bill.

[Anonymous No.14727207]

>>14727201
definitely not

[Anonymous No.14727210]

>>14727207
I hate them so much, man.

[Anonymous No.14727212]

>>14727196
>3000kN hydrazine engines
No whammies

[Anonymous No.14727220]

>The crew of #NS22 have been certified as ready to fly to space by CrewMember 7 Sarah Knights. Launch window opens tomorrow at 8:30 a.m. CDT / 13:30 UTC.
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1554986372594692096

[Anonymous No.14727221]

>>14725987
Nobody knows.

[Anonymous No.14727224]

>>14727220
Sir, this is a spaceflight thread.

[Anonymous No.14727225]

>>14725987
If you can't go faster than light, find some way to move without moving instead.

[Anonymous No.14727229]

>>14727225
the futurama approach

[Anonymous No.14727235]

>>14727220
Diversity for thee, not for me

[Anonymous No.14727252]

1/6

>Launch success has been confirmed - the main payload & LV info were indeed correct with T-0 at 03:08 UTC.
>2 other satellites are on board.
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1555034689207169024

[Anonymous No.14727255]

>>14727252
That's one huge toxic cloud

[Anonymous No.14727316]

New rocketlab stream link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij94xGiXB5Q

[Anonymous No.14727325]

Did Roggetlab give up on parachuting its first stages?

[Anonymous No.14727331]

>>14727325
I believe the quote was that it was unexpectedly dangerous for a helicopter to do it

[Anonymous No.14727332]

>>14727252

[Anonymous No.14727336]

>>14725045
Presumably the module will be docked to that port for weeks/months before it's moved. Or like the other anon said it might just be an example of who the ports are universal.

[Anonymous No.14727340]

>>14725045
I'm guessing the automated docking system is only available for that port

[Anonymous No.14727343]

[Anonymous No.14727344]

[Anonymous No.14727351]

>>14727194
I didn't say that LauncherOne was cool.

[Anonymous No.14727357]

>>14727162
It's cringe and so are you

[Anonymous No.14727358]

>>14727343
That's quite well shot for a phone

[Anonymous No.14727361]

>>14727357
Fag.

[Anonymous No.14727365]

>>14727343
Great footage. Not exactly the fastest rocket off the pad, is it

[Anonymous No.14727375]

>>14727361
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.14727376]

yikes rockets lab's streamer

[Anonymous No.14727378]

>>14727376
You mean Mr. Beck in drag?

[Anonymous No.14727384]

>>14727378
can't be. her hair isn't fluffy enough

[Anonymous No.14727385]

2/6

[Anonymous No.14727387]

4 orbital launches in a day would break the record

[Anonymous No.14727389]

>>14727331
>unexpectedly

[Anonymous No.14727390]

>>14727387
so?

[Anonymous No.14727391]

>>14727390
records being broken means progress in spaceflight

[Anonymous No.14727393]

>>14727391
and?

[Anonymous No.14727395]

>>14727393

[Anonymous No.14727396]

>>14727393
and fuck you, that's what

[Anonymous No.14727397]

Why arent space companies doing glide back boosters?

[Anonymous No.14727399]

>>14727397
goddamn, spoiler that shit. That is too sexy for a blue board!

[Anonymous No.14727400]

>>14727397
You could put in all the hardware and aerodynamics to do it, weighing in at multiple tons

vs.

just landing the rocket under its own power

[Anonymous No.14727401]

>>14727395
gentle trolling in the off hours, have a good night :)

[Anonymous No.14727402]

>>14727401
gay and lame

[Anonymous No.14727409]

space is boring
mars is the last planet human could possibly reach before extinction

[Anonymous No.14727410]

Space is gay, but spaceflight is kino

[Anonymous No.14727412]

>>14727400
Is the aerodynamic regime and avionics of flyback boosters harder than conventional methods? Or is it just a mass problem?

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.14727416]

>>14725670
You're not as smart as you think you are.

[Anonymous No.14727421]

Would the jannies ban this schizo already?

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.14727429]

>>14727421
What are you talking about yourself in third person?

[Anonymous No.14727433]

>>14727421
/sci/ would have basically no traffic without schizos and retards

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.14727434]

>>14727433
Your not as retarded as you think you are.

[Anonymous No.14727440]

>>14727421
Your post is extremely low quality

[Anonymous No.14727441]

There is a room in the Pentagon full of people thinking of ways to weaponize Starship right now.
Lucky bastards.

[Anonymous No.14727442]

>>14727365
It gives you more time to contemplate the aromA

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.14727452]

>>14727441
I'm an agricultural pilot. Mostly spray pesticide at low level. Guys like me would be considered as starship pilots. Best way to weaponize would be mounted arrays of Gatling guns, fly in low and sweep the enemy in even spray. Certain brands raise yield by 15 percent, with no danger to the crop. Only problem is rain immediately after application. A close partnership with local weather observation organizations is a key factor to success in modern pesticide application. With a payload of 9,249 lbs. (4.195 kg) and an 800-gallon hopper, the AT-802A stands alone. No other single-engine ag plane offers more working capacity. With its power, speed and payload; its long feature list and array of options, the AT-802A offers attractive new income opportunities for operators. You’ll work faster, stay longer over the field and complete more jobs in a single load. With the capacity to do the work of several smaller planes, the AT-802A provides a one-pilot operation with maximum productivity.

[Anonymous No.14727462]

Astra earnings call today. I’m so excited for some failurekino

[Anonymous No.14727465]

So launch soon?

[Anonymous No.14727475]

39A pics dropped bb

[Anonymous No.14727477]

>>14727465
Launch already happened

[Anonymous No.14727483]

>>14727440
All my posts are extremely high quality, in fact I spent the last 30 minutes coming up with the perfect reply to your post. Here it is:

Fuck you, retard.

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.14727487]

>>14727483
Nice reddit spacing, goober.

[Anonymous No.14727491]

>>14727483
yikes

[Anonymous No.14727494]

>>14727487
Whats a reddit

[Anonymous No.14727495]

>>14727483

[Anonymous No.14727499]

>>14727487
Pottery, nice reddit username and lust for the attention you didn't get as a child.

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.14727511]

I win

[Anonymous No.14727530]

next launch is in 3 hours

[Anonymous No.14727534]

it's over

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.14727551]

>>14727534
Not an argument. I'm muscular. I guess Jay Cutler is obesse too? Ronny Coleman? I value a low body fat physique.

[Anonymous No.14727552]

>>14727551
Post body

[Anonymous No.14727553]

>>14727551
>Compares himself to Ronny
Shut up, retard.

[Anonymous No.14727560]

>>14727551
>ahaha that 75+ pounds of extra body weight I have compared to someone my height that's a healthy weight is totally muscle. I'm the greatest natural body builder in the world!

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.14727572]

>>14727552
No, I don't think I will
>>14727553
He would take my side over yours, goober. I would place highly in any amateur competition.
>>14727560
>healthy

[Anonymous No.14727578]

>I would place highly in any amateur competition.

[Anonymous No.14727593]

more evidence has appeared that the chinese may be launching their x-37b equivalent later today
https://twitter.com/DutchSpace/status/1555080848742957057

[Anonymous No.14727600]

>>14727593
Can't see shit, someone call Maxar.

[Anonymous No.14727623]

>>14727495
missing in the pic: all the asteroid holes

[Anonymous No.14727627]

>>14727623
no one cares

[Anonymous No.14727642]

>>14727623
That nose is really fucked up too.

[Anonymous No.14727699]

Late to the party on this news, are there any videos talking about the Russians withdrawing from the ISS + what SpaceX will might do in response?

[Anonymous No.14727711]

>>14727699
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.14727724]

>>14727699
It was 'clarified' that they meant a withdrawal in 2028+, it wouldn't impact SpaceX unless they land a contract for reboosting.

[Anonymous No.14727730]

Look what we have for todays launches:
>Long March 2F/T
>Experimental Spaceplane (CSSHQ)
>Probable reflight of the Chinese spaceplane capable of returning to Earth, which flew in orbit September 4 - 6, 2020.

[Anonymous No.14727843]

https://youtu.be/ojD3jJDvsSY

[Anonymous No.14727863]

Atlas 5 about to launch and apparently I'm the only one awake. What's up Euros?

[Anonymous No.14727869]

>>14727863
You're not the only one. It was a lovely launch.

[Anonymous No.14727880]

>>14727869
The launch was nice but I'm spoiled by SpaceX style coverage of the flight. Don't know if ULA has less cameras or if it was because it's a Space Force mission that there was so little video from the rocket after launch.

[Anonymous No.14727902]

>>14727397
wtf is that interstage made out of to survive reentry with no TPS

[Anonymous No.14727906]

>>14727863
oop i missed it

[Anonymous No.14727908]

>>14727902
it's made of artist's poor technical understanding

[Anonymous No.14727941]

>>14727908
for all mankind moment

[Anonymous No.14727962]

>>14727941
never forget

[Anonymous No.14727971]

>>14727197
must be some new soi-flavoured variant of this

[Anonymous No.14728006]

>>14727902
https://youtu.be/b6GG8KHDjZk?t=293

[Anonymous No.14728011]

[Anonymous No.14728013]

[Anonymous No.14728015]

[Anonymous No.14728019]

[Anonymous No.14728021]

>>14727971
>I could take it, could you?

[Anonymous No.14728036]

>>14727197
is posing in front of unusual/interesting/historically significant object alien concept to you?

[Anonymous No.14728047]

>>14728036
Yes, it's for weak men.

[Anonymous No.14728051]

>>14728036
That guy is posing in front of that tank because it's *his* tank, you fag, not because it's *a* tank.

[Anonymous No.14728059]

>>14728047
Incorrect

[Anonymous No.14728060]

>>14728059
That guy is posing in front of that tank because it's *his* rocket, you fag, not because it's *a* rocket.

[Anonymous No.14728067]

>>14728051
is this *his* tower as well?

[Anonymous No.14728072]

>>14728067
No, but he's a weak chink manlet, which goes to prove >>14728047

[Anonymous No.14728074]

>>14728036
>totally the same thing, bro, that guy fought in the great ULA war and he is proud of capturing an Atlas V
Neck yourself. Your twitter account is probably garbage but I don't care enough to find it from the photo that was posted

[Jeo No.14728090]

>>14728088

[Anonymous No.14728091]

>>14728090
That's not how this works.

[Anonymous No.14728103]

[Anonymous No.14728105]

>>14728090
>cross-boarder newfag tries to start a thread
lurk moar, urrffer scum

[Anonymous No.14728115]

>>14728090
>newfriend starts a new thread at bump limit
Been a while. During the influx of new posters we got when Starship was hoping regularly it felt like this was happening every thread

[Anonymous No.14728116]

>>14728074
>>14728072
>dude you need to conquer continental United States if you want to take a picture of Billybob's Dinner
why are you autists insecure about some random dude taking a holiday photo?

[Anonymous No.14728120]

https://youtu.be/F-UgZLcxV24

[Anonymous No.14728124]

>>14728116
>t. flaming homosexual
I'm all for taking holiday photos. Just don't get in the frame to take a selfie and expect people not to notice that you're a feminine faggot.

[Anonymous No.14728138]

>>14728090
next thread should be titled Launchapalooza

[Anonymous No.14728174]

>>14728120
>>14728120
>>14728120
2 minutes

[Anonymous No.14728182]

I want to go a billion trillion miles per minute

[Anonymous No.14728185]

>>14728124
so you go on holidays and make the same photos you can find on internet in better quality
I don't see what's macho about that
seems more like you are insecure about your looks

[Anonymous No.14728190]

>>14728174
Oh, is that's how long it lasts?

[Anonymous No.14728191]

>>14728103
Sir, we've already told you that this is a spaceflight thread. Carnival rides go in /n/ or whatever.

[Anonymous No.14728194]

I can HEAR the soi face from that cabin

[Anonymous No.14728196]

OH MY GOOODDDDD
BAAAASEDYYYYY
WE'RE FLYING

[Anonymous No.14728199]

EVERYBODY BACK TO YOUR SEATS, SCHNELL SCHNELL THE CARNIVAL RIDE IS ABOUT TO END.

[Anonymous No.14728204]

poor aim

[Anonymous No.14728205]

>WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE

[Anonymous No.14728206]

>>14728204
Imagine when they're going to try that from an orbital booster many times its size onto a fucking scandi car ferry.

[Anonymous No.14728214]

>>14727971
>No visible tattoos, no obnoxious piercings, no fake excited expression with a fish mouth.
Pretty low on the soimeter. Just looks like a youngish guy who is into rocketry. I wouldn't have posed in the photo if it were me but really don't see the issue here.

[Anonymous No.14728216]

>>14728206
As far as I remember, they're ditching that ship and buying a barge from the company as SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.14728217]

>>14728204
They were being respectful of the company logo.

[Anonymous No.14728219]

>>14728216
They should just ditch their plans and scale up production of their carnival rides.

[Anonymous No.14728223]

>>14728214
>don't see the issue here
then shut up about it

[Anonymous No.14728225]

>>14727397
F9 has shown that it’s useless, you get way more performance and way faster turnaround time with the ability to land
That isn’t to say that countries like russia or china or india should try it though. If you don’t think you can land a rocket at least do glide back boosters. It would make for a pretty easy way to get a >50% reusable super heavy lift rocket

[Anonymous No.14728226]

>>14728217
This. Think of how much they're saving in not having to constantly repaint the logo like SpaceX has to.

[Anonymous No.14728228]

>>14728226
Based BO sacrificing rockets to save $20 of paint spray bottle once a year

[Anonymous No.14728258]

>>14728223
Having a bad day, friend? Don't worry, things are looking up and will be alright.

[Anonymous No.14728278]

>>14728225
Falcon depends on a low ∆v first stage so it's going slow enough to survive, a lifting body glide booster could come in way hotter and use lift to stay high while bleeding speed to greatly reduce peak heating.
It's two difference solutions with neither being clearly better. If you wanted something like the R-7 where the core goes all the way up glide booster would be a comparatively cheap and easy update rather than the high cost of a completely new design.

[Anonymous No.14728313]

>>14728011
John Kraus is amazing at photography

[Anonymous No.14728326]

started early today

[Anonymous No.14728332]

maybe 40 minutes until the spaceplane

[Anonymous No.14728334]

https://caseclosed.substack.com/p/winter-is-herewhich-space-spacs-will


Winter is here

[Anonymous No.14728335]

>Curiosity has been on Mars for 10 years
Time is moving too fast

[Anonymous No.14728342]

>>14728335
Perseverance has been there 11, it's fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.14728343]

>>14728334
SPAC-alypse

[Anonymous No.14728348]

>>14728334
don’t care about spacs
>>14728326
don’t care about some image you ripped from reddit
>>14728103
don’t care about suborbital origin
>>14727416
don’t care about the namefag
>>14728090
don’t care about your thread that should and will get nuked
>>14727397
kino

[Anonymous No.14728350]

>>14728326

[Anonymous No.14728352]

Does anyone know a good site with lots of data on rocket engines? I'm looking for the difference between RD-107 / RD-108 varients

[Anonymous No.14728357]

>>14728350
long day

[Anonymous No.14728366]

>>14728343
>Velo3D
>Worse
They make SpaceX's engine bodies, I'm surprised they haven't been acquired yet

[Anonymous No.14728369]

>>14728366
>They make SpaceX's engine bodies
I highly doubt it. They might sell printers to SpaceX that they use to make the engine bodies.

[Anonymous No.14728371]

[Anonymous No.14728386]

>>14728366
Sounds like they tried (I can't get past the paywall)
https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/space/velo3d-3d-printer-spacex-could-not-buy-eyes-major-expansion

[Anonymous No.14728402]

>>14728352
I think everyday astronaut has a pretty nifty guide for soviet engines.

[Anonymous No.14728404]

>>14728204
I missed this, slept in. Anybody got a webm? I wanna see this stupid thing flip around at the last second to hoverslam again, I love that.

[Anonymous No.14728413]

>>14728404
If you blink you'll miss it. Its literally a 2 minute ride up and down, then its over. I dont get the excitement over it.

[Anonymous No.14728414]

>>14728352

[Anonymous No.14728420]

>>14728413
At the very least, I'd assume it to be an order of magnitude cheaper than a ticket to LEO since you're just going up and back down again. If you're a richfag but not THAT much of a richfag, it could theoretically be appealing I suppose. I don't quite get it either.
At least Shatner seemed to like it.

[Anonymous No.14728428]

soon

[Anonymous No.14728429]

Hell yeah, this man finally gaining back some respect after the twitter fiasco

[Anonymous No.14728432]

>>14728429
fucking finally. Twitter shit was cringe

[Anonymous No.14728433]

we wont get official coverage of the spaceplane launch but since it's night in asia we might get camera footage from random people

[Anonymous No.14728475]

>>14728420
Think Shatner got his trip for free in exchange for the publicity it attracted. I'd ride the carnival express for free too but if I were paying, I'd go with the Vomit Comet instead. It's not going to space by any definition but you get the weightless experience, which is more important to me than bragging rights over having been on a sub-orbital ride.

[Anonymous No.14728486]

>>14725015
Someone post the Starlink profit maths.

[Anonymous No.14728489]

[Anonymous No.14728490]

>>14728475
At least the vomit comet does multiple climbs/falls, giving you the weightless experience repeatedly instead of just 3 minutes in a tiny cabin. It's got to be cheaper than New Shepard too.

[Anonymous No.14728493]

>>14728357
I've seen this pic before, faggot.

[Anonymous No.14728508]

>>14728366
maybe because that chart says they have a suspect bun multiple score, no bun, no hop

[Anonymous No.14728511]

>>14728490
>It's got to be cheaper than New Shepard too.
it's 8200$ https://www.gozerog.com/reservations/..
New Shepard is like over ten million

[Anonymous No.14728514]

>>14728511
>New Shepard is like over ten million
Now that's just obscene, vulgar even.

[Anonymous No.14728549]

starlink is fuckng things up. first oneweb and eutelsat merged, now intelsat and ses are in merger talks
https://spacenews.com/consolidation-wave-pushes-rivals-ses-and-intelsat-into-merger-talks/

[Anonymous No.14728553]

>>14728549
nice

[Anonymous No.14728562]

>>14728549
This was expected, the other option was going bankrupt. The consolidation only delays bankruptcy by a little while, as they get to reshuffle their businesses a bit.

[Anonymous No.14728573]

>>14728549
I wouldn't be shocked if the new SES/Intelsat starts thinking about megaconstellations to compete with SpaceX and later Amazon

The only problem is lol with what launch capacity

[Anonymous No.14728583]

>>14728573
Terran R

[Anonymous No.14728585]

we're going to go from a bunch of satellite operators to a handful

[Anonymous No.14728591]

>>14728583
Get back to me when it works

[Anonymous No.14728592]

>>14727452
>>>/n/ is this way

[Anonymous No.14728595]

30 minutes and still no word of a launch...

[Anonymous No.14728596]

>14728592
don't feed the /n/amefag

[Anonymous No.14728606]

>>14728596
this faggot literally posts his faggotry all across the website. he's the ultimate nolife schizoid

[Anonymous No.14728629]

>>14728433
We dont need to. It is probably a clone of pic related

[Anonymous No.14728677]

>>14728629
Starship will be the replacement for this program.

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.14728754]

Test

[Anonymous No.14728787]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/08/04/asia/china-taiwan-military-exercises-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

[Anonymous No.14728790]

>>14728787
>The entire world goes back to the pre-electronic age because Taiwan gets invaded

It's been nice shitposting with you bros

[Anonymous No.14728842]

>>14728787
OH MY GAWD ITS HABBENNING (This is the 5th non-happening this week)

[Anonymous No.14728845]

>>14728677
Starship is a scam.
It has been a whole year of craneing around and powerpointing.
Even the orange tank is launching in 4 weeks.

[Anonymous No.14728872]

>>14728790
oh relax, losing Taiwan / TSMC wouldn't send us back to the 20th century, but it would make Intel very rich.

[Anonymous No.14728892]

>>14728872
Intel graphics cards are dead in the water

[Anonymous No.14728902]

>>14728892
How wrong you are

[Anonymous No.14728903]

look what i found in my basement

[Anonymous No.14728909]

>>14728892
Runs minecraft just fine for me. But regardless, so what?

>muh video games
>muh ML clipart meme generator
Intel's fabs have sufficient capacity to cover the strategic needs of America, should a war with China actually break out. Consumers will just have to cope with shortages. During WW2, factories for all sort of consumer luxury goods were repurposed for making war materials. This would be no different.

Your life being inconvenienced by a war? I know, a new experience for most Americans alive today. But you will survive. We're not going back to the pre-electronic age if China takes out TSMC. There will be sacrifices but it wouldn't be the end of the world. The rest of the war might be be the end of the world, but for worse reasons than the loss of TSMC.

[Anonymous No.14728912]

5/6

>Xinhua news has declared launch success! As with last time we only knew that it was launched on LM-2F and that it’s a “reusable test spacecraft”; no T-0 were given.
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1555271290118086656

we did, we broke the record for most orbital launches in a single day

[Anonymous No.14728914]

>>14728912
we did it*

[Anonymous No.14728923]

>>14728912

[Anonymous No.14728930]

>>14728909
Sometimes I think about how weird it was that there was a point in time where everything was rationed. How bad was it in WW2 for the average American? We’re you seriously only allotted a certain amount of milk, sugar, eggs, etc?
On topic becuase Germany also rationed and apparently von braun’s rocket department was a pretty big hog on resources (granted this was probably because later on in the war the krauts had pretty much nothing to go around)

[Anonymous No.14728931]

>>14728489
attractive plumage

[Anonymous No.14728935]

how do they deliver propellants to the gimbaling engines, do they have some felxible hose or more like a joint

[Anonymous No.14728936]

To the Anon who posts those old Glavkosmos adverts, I found a Glavkosmos stamp made from the cooperation between the USSR and Afghanistan.

[Anonymous No.14728938]

very impressive collection, fts anon. Just saw your google drive.
Just curious, what do you do in real life?

[Anonymous No.14728939]

>>14728930
Well there certainly was a very big spike in inflation after WW2 when people could actually buy shit they wanted.

[Anonymous No.14728941]

>>14728930
>How bad was it in WW2 for the average American? We’re you seriously only allotted a certain amount of milk, sugar, eggs, etc?
There was some food rationing in America, though not as much as in the UK/Europe. Sugar was one of the first foods to get rationed, others followed. But mostly the rations concerned fuel, rubber, metal, etc. And production of consumer cars and appliances basically came to a stop so those factories could make tanks and guns.

[Anonymous No.14728946]

>>14728938
Currently I'm just a student, not even a university one.
I've been wondering what to study to get more into the spaceflight to astronomy relating professions. I know the university here in Turku has made satellites before, so that might be something to aim for.

[Anonymous No.14728950]

>>14728936
thank you Finnanon

[Anonymous No.14728951]

>>14728936
Found another one, USSR-France.
In a way it is sad that the USSR's space cooperation started picking up right at the point where the Union fell apart. At least it got carried over to Russia for three decades

[Anonymous No.14728952]

B7 will go back to launchpad next ~wed/thursday.

Source? It was revealed to me in a dream.Mark my words. Test will resume for B7 the week after next.

[Anonymous No.14728953]

>>14728952
False, B7 is fucked.

[Anonymous No.14728957]

>>14728950
any idea why zenit isn't pictured on there? was it too unreliable in 1989 for them to want to advertise it?

[Anonymous No.14728962]

[Anonymous No.14728967]

>>14728946
Aerospace engineering usually covers most of the important hardware-and-physics-related bases. Software is ultimately a computer science area, as is mission operations. Electrical engineers get involved in communications and power systems. If you're truly insane going into chemical engineering for rocket propellant development is a possibility.

The actual science part is a melange of astronomy, geology, chemistry, meteorology, and applied physics. The big galaxy observation stuff is usually just one hundred percent cosmological physics guys testing their models.

Outside the frontline stuff there's a whole host of other jobs that run the gamut from management (project managers are worth their weight in gold) to just being really good at wiring, soldering, welding and machining

[Anonymous No.14728968]

>>14728903
as if I could read Finnish even before an AI scrambled it

[Anonymous No.14728969]

>>14728962
Some AI generated stamps, inspired by fts

[Anonymous No.14728971]

>>14728957
no idea, I just save pretty pictures and post them. someone else will know.

[Anonymous No.14728975]

>>14728903
My man's found an elder scroll wtf

[Anonymous No.14728980]

>>14728962
>>14728969
Top left seems to have a shuttle in it, bottom right is oddly close to the early depictions of Vostok spacecraft in stamps, that or Spuntik-3
The really red part would make these stamps either Chinese or Vietnamese, like this one
But for an AI it is really good, it even tried to put prices on the stamps

[Anonymous No.14728997]

>>14728935
flex hoses

[Anonymous No.14729004]

[Anonymous No.14729008]

[Anonymous No.14729014]

>NEW: Astra says it will no longer launch on Rocket 3.0 and is moving on to the "next version of its launch system."
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1555286030848348164

[Anonymous No.14729015]

imagine being on mars looking up and seeing this

[Anonymous No.14729021]

>>14729014
All those stocks... lost...

[Anonymous No.14729026]

>>14729015
1 more year until successful launch

[Anonymous No.14729030]

>>14728980
love the texture. nice collection you've got there anon.

[Anonymous No.14729031]

>>14729014
Is TROPICS safe now?

[Anonymous No.14729037]

>>14729015
Earther garbage that needs to be scrapped?

[Anonymous No.14729049]

Starlink testing lower priced tiers in France.

Down from $110 per month to $50 per month, but with 250 GB data afterwhich you get de-prioritized during congestion. You can pay extra $10 per 100 GB, for total of 1.1 TB for $110 (for the original $110). Remember, these extra GBs are just for priority. So even if you only pay $50/m, you'll still receive 110Mbps (~30Mbps-300Mbps), its just the during heavy congestions, your speeds would be decreased to make way for others just like the RV mode.

Bring it to the US pls. Fucking $50/m for Starlink is absolute steal.

[Anonymous No.14729050]

>Virgin Galactic announces losses of $111 million in second quarter, says start of commercial service now slips into Q2 of 2023.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1555287456680919041

[Anonymous No.14729064]

>>14729049
I’ve seen people being very happy about it
It is now highly competitive in most rural areas, most isps here are 30€/month
Is it the same in other countries?

[Anonymous No.14729074]

>>14729014
>Astra CEO Chris Kemp said it's not certain that the company will resume commercial launches in 2023. It will depend on how development and testing goes with the next generation launch system. May be later.

[Anonymous No.14729082]

>>14729014
Astra outta this world

[Anonymous No.14729098]

>>14729015
>hmm, I wonder why they brought that prototype up here

[Anonymous No.14729103]

Can someone check on the astranon?

[Anonymous No.14729115]

>>14729103
He didn't seem worried last time he posted, he did say that he was going to get his resume ready if they stopped building rockets

[Anonymous No.14729116]

>>14726035
imagine a stretched dreamchaser (2nd stage no longer needed) launchin on a falcon 9 first stage.

I know it's never gonna happen but there's your mini starship right there

[Anonymous No.14729121]

dos horas hermanas

[Anonymous No.14729128]

>>14729121
it's so dirty

[Anonymous No.14729130]

So why are plane companies shilling the hydromeme now? Why not methalox?

[Anonymous No.14729133]

>>14729130
mass autism

[Anonymous No.14729140]

>>14729130
hydorgen is is clean if you make it from renewable sources

[Anonymous No.14729142]

>>14729130
because hydromeme won't cause global warming (as long as you don't check where they get their hydrogen from)

[Anonymous No.14729150]

why do they do this

[Anonymous No.14729152]

>>14729121
I so wish they'd paint the lightning towers like those barber shop things

[Anonymous No.14729153]

>>14729130
Hydrogen is a part of the green scam, like renewables.

[Anonymous No.14729159]

>>14729153
Cope. Nuclear isn't going to replace everything.

[Anonymous No.14729161]

>>14729140
(or nuclear)

[Anonymous No.14729162]

>>14729159
S T O R A G E

[Anonymous No.14729165]

>>14729133
>>14729140
It makes no sense to me

Rocketry sure, you can get away with mass autism (see space shuttle)

We are talking about an industry with razor thin margins. Every single minute those planes are in the air matters. So now we are going to need to spend a shit ton more time refueling, plus have an entire second ground services infrastructure set up for the refueling.

I mean hell, these airlines fight tooth and nail for legroom. They cant afford to increase their prices by 1 dollar and be undercut by their competitors. And you're telling me they're gonna completely replace their fleet and fueling infrastructure with a fuel with vastly less energy density.

You would have better luck trying to convince me the sky is green

[Anonymous No.14729167]

>>14729159
Weird how those graphs never translate to reality. It's supposedly so cheap, but I don't see my energy bills going down.

[Anonymous No.14729171]

>>14729167
All the savings were donated to charity


Specifically the Westinghouse Electric Executive Vacation Fund

[Anonymous No.14729173]

>>14729015
Well if I had made it to Mars and someone was ordering me to return home, I'd rather burn up become an **rther again

[Anonymous No.14729180]

>>14729153
Listen man I think renewables are great, I just dont think putting them on a flying machine is financially competitive in current decade

[Anonymous No.14729195]

>>14729167
That's to show the trend line. Solar has only very recently broken trough to be cheaper than any other generation method. To take advantage of that as a buyer right now you would have to have a market price contract, which can be very risky considering what we saw in Texas a few times.

[Anonymous No.14729211]

>>14729014
>everything astranon said is true
based

[Anonymous No.14729214]

>>14729195
>>14729162
Being much cheaper than everything else also opens up various not so efficient methods but very scalable methods of S T O R A G E. Just you wait.

[Anonymous No.14729229]

>>14729165
shaving dry mass on planes is such a big deal that carbon fiber actually makes economic sense for chrissakes.

[Anonymous No.14729228]

>>14728957
because that ad predates Zenit! But it is pictured, kinda: the side boosters of the Energia were redeveloped to be their own launch vehicle, giving birth to Zenit.

[Anonymous No.14729231]

>>14729140
Uh, so is methane
>>14729159
>Nuclear isn't going to replace everything.
Anything*

[Anonymous No.14729233]

>>14725987
Unironically yes. The universe expands faster than light.

[Anonymous No.14729237]

>>14729228
as of 1989 zenit had launched 13 times and 9 straight without a failure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Zenit_launches

[Anonymous No.14729254]

>>14728343
>Virgin Galactic
>Debt to Revenue
>324.6x

[Anonymous No.14729264]

>>14729237
you're right. Now I wonder about that too!

[Anonymous No.14729300]

wind tunnel tests for 5 shuttle orbiter candidates, 1969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebpz38RCTVU

[Anonymous No.14729304]

>>14729165
Hydrogen is the densest way to carry around energy produced by green sources, that's why they are looking at hydrogen. Hydrogen unfortunately makes little sense for cars since it would evaporate quickly in small tanks and distributing it would be hard, but for planes it makes much more sense. Now I do think they are expecting some subsidies for this

[Anonymous No.14729311]

>>14729304
aren't the hydrogen fuel cell meme car companies using pressurized gaseous H2?

[Anonymous No.14729312]

I can't believe Musk watches nelk, he's on their podcast tomorrow

[Anonymous No.14729314]

>>14729304
>Hydrogen is the densest way to carry around energy produced by green sources
https://www.terraformindustries.com/

[Anonymous No.14729321]

>>14729311
yeah they are meme companies, gonna have to carry a balloon with my car

[Anonymous No.14729331]

>>14729321
every crash a Hindenberg or your money back

[Anonymous No.14729335]

Dunno if this was posted already
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2022/07/03/powering-the-lunar-base-version-2/

[Anonymous No.14729340]

TONIGHT

>>>/tv/4am

[Anonymous No.14729369]

>>14728957
Perhaps because it was still relatively unproven and the other rockets could do the same job. Zenit-2 fit between the "7-ton-payload middle Soyuz and smaller than 20-ton-payload heavy Proton", only later would it reach its heyday as best former USSR rocket
>The first commercial offering was presented at the Space Commerce '88 trade show in Montreux, Switzerland. Most notably it featured the sales of the following launchers: Energia, with a payload of up to 100t to Low Earth orbit (LEO); Proton with a payload of up to 20t to LEO or 2t to GEO for 25 - $30 million (1988) (equivalent to $68.74 million in 2021)[6]; Tsyklon-3 for payloads up to 4t to LEO; a family of Soyuz rockets in the configurations for LEO, geostationary transfer and Molniya orbits as well as the Vostok launchers for 12 - $18 million (1988) (equivalent to $41.24 million in 2021)

[Anonymous No.14729384]

>>14729264
Most of those were test flights, btw. Why they didn't have confidence in it despite the successful outcomes is a good question.

[Anonymous No.14729389]

>>14729237

[Anonymous No.14729395]

>>14729340
expired link

[Anonymous No.14729399]

gonna try making a straight-wing shuttle for my rp1 career tonight. wish me luck!

[Anonymous No.14729403]

>>14729399
Degrees!? What!? Where are the SI units?

[Anonymous No.14729406]

>>14729399
Good luck, faget

[Anonymous No.14729435]

I just want to haul Mars cargo and roggs

[Anonymous No.14729454]

>>14729229
>we made our plane out of plastic
>sorry, COMPOSITES

[Anonymous No.14729458]

>>14729435
That's a job for a rover.

[Anonymous No.14729462]

>>14725015
Name all the space companies in the U.S

[Anonymous No.14729465]

Why aren't you talking about KPLO?

[Anonymous No.14729466]

>>14729462
NASA

[Anonymous No.14729472]

>>14729465
Soon

[Anonymous No.14729483]

14 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTrkHZjiO_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPUUOsUeblE

[Anonymous No.14729485]

>>14729406
what a faget
>martin 410
>never forget

[Anonymous No.14729488]

>>14729483
T-10 mins to launch.

[Anonymous No.14729492]

>>14729462

[Anonymous No.14729495]

>>14729485
for me it's MALLAR
https://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/newsletters/lpib/new/project-mallar-technical-proposal-manned-modular-multi-purpose-space-vehicle/

[Anonymous No.14729507]

>>14729462
Amaradilo
Space systems
aerospace
rocketjet
boeing
Beel

[Anonymous No.14729508]

economic orbit

[Anonymous No.14729512]

>>14729508
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-energy_transfer

[Anonymous No.14729520]

[Anonymous No.14729522]

decollage

[Anonymous No.14729523]

>video in 8 bit
YIKES

[Anonymous No.14729538]

>>14729508
>>14729512
Interesting, I'll have to give this a go in my KSP RP-1 career. Might let me get a crewed lunar orbit before I have the F-1.

[Anonymous No.14729540]

6/6

6 launches were launched today

[Anonymous No.14729543]

uh oh

[Anonymous No.14729545]

did they lose it ?

[Anonymous No.14729546]

that didn't sound good

[Anonymous No.14729548]

F

[Anonymous No.14729549]

phew

[Anonymous No.14729550]

landing confirmed

[Anonymous No.14729552]

I noticed that F9 relights engine to slowdown @ ~8000 km/h

With Starship, no such slowdown should be necessary as the Bellflop would reduce that down to ~300-500 km/h.

[Anonymous No.14729553]

>slow confirmation of booster landing
wonder what happened

[Anonymous No.14729554]

there she is

[Anonymous No.14729555]

>>14729553
Horizontal landing is still a landing

[Anonymous No.14729556]

>>14727252
>>14727385
>>14728011
>>14728120
>>14728912
>>14729540

[Anonymous No.14729558]

>>14729552
Even on the first stage?

[Anonymous No.14729563]

>>14729558
Probably follows similar as F9 booster.

F9 stage separation happens @ 160 secs. Superheavy stage separation happens @ 170 secs. So the energy should be similar enough, as well as the flight profile.

[Anonymous No.14729592]

>>14729556
I wonder how long after the Wright Bros. first flight we had the first day with six different aircraft flying?

[Anonymous No.14729603]

And there it is, 6 successful orbital missions for the planet in 1 day.

[Anonymous No.14729605]

>>14729074
>make a big deal out of launch cadence
>next launch may be 18 months away
incomprehensibly grim
Spinlaunch is more likely to fly at this point than Rocket 4

[Anonymous No.14729624]

>>14729605
Didn't they already announce that they were ditching Rocket 3 for Rocket 4 after the last exciting launch failure? I didn't think this was supposed to be a surprise.

The fact that it's going to take them a year and a half to design a new upper stage is a bit unexpected.

[Anonymous No.14729638]

Hey guys, I'm back after 6 years. So, how's hoppy doin? Still hoppin?

[Anonymous No.14729644]

>>14729624
Astranon leaked here that they were ditching 3 for 4 like a month ago. It wasn't widespread knowledge afaik.
I misunderstood though. It's not that Rocket 4 may not fly at all in 2023, just that it may not fly customer payload. Still, if investors let Astra live until the end of 2023 (they won't), I could see Astra pulling a Virgin Galactic and having Rocket 4 delayed indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.14729652]

>>14729638
>On April 8, 2016, Falcon 9 flight 23, the third flight of the full-thrust version, delivered the SpaceX CRS-8 cargo on its way to the International Space Station while the first stage conducted a boostback and re-entry maneuver over the Atlantic Ocean. Nine minutes after liftoff, the booster landed vertically on the drone ship Of Course I Still Love You.
Wow, the first ocean landing was only 6 years ago. In only 6 years they have come this far. Meanwhile NASA and oldspace did not do much kek

[Anonymous No.14729657]

>>14729652
Thats racism against good paying union jobs contractors

[Anonymous No.14729667]

Any word on Rocket Lab catching that rocket?

[Anonymous No.14729670]

>>14729667
It was a gimmick. Leave it as such.

[Anonymous No.14729672]

>>14729667
They used a reuse rocket but they said they weren't going to reuse it.

[Anonymous No.14729688]

If Starship actually works, the USA will have such an advantage in space technology. One that other countries can't hope to match for decades.
This has both military and commercial benefits that no other country can touch.

[Anonymous No.14729703]

>>14729688
Shut it down - FAA/Biden admin

[Anonymous No.14729730]

page 10, staging...
>>14729729
>>14729729
>>14729729
>>14729729

[Anonymous No.14729732]

>>14729703
Begone chang
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/faa-defends-spacex-despite-unauthorized-starship-sn8-launch.html

[Anonymous No.14729796]

>>14725650
yeah, is BLAME!, the manga is pretty good but the anime was trash as expected. I have the master edition vol 1.

[Anonymous No.14729826]

>>14729732
It shit's me that SpaceX didn't get a huge fine for this, it I launched a rocket to 40,000ft without a cleared flight plan I would be in prison but because it was SpaceX breaking rules that exist because of mid-airs everyone if cool with letting them off.
IMO give Musk 2 months prison, everything will keep going without him and it sends the message no one is above the law.

[Anonymous No.14729832]

>>14729826
this is not what happened by the way. it's what a faggot lawyer like eric roesch would say happened

[Anonymous No.14729835]

>>14729832
What actually happened? I only know what I heard in the news and I also know that isn't always the truth.