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Why is this recognized as a legitimate science instead of the quackery it clearly is?

>I feel like shit because my life is shit
Depression
>sometimes I feel angry and sometimes I feel sad
Bipolar disorder
>my kid can't pay attention in class and stay seated for 8 hours straight
ADHD
>I'm a piece of shit
BPD

And whatever legitimate roles psychiatry can have can be relegated to neurology or philosophy.

>> No.12717286

t. every legitimately schizophrenic person ever

>> No.12717304

>>12717252
You don't live with anyone who legitimately has a mental illness, do you? My father had Bipolar Disorder, and he tried to kill himself multiple times. When he was manic, he ran off, and we were only able to find him because of posts he made on facebook.

>> No.12717338

>>12717252
I used to be anti-psychiatry because i know its used as a political tool but then i realized that doesnt apply to the typical patient anyway. The typical patient will never be forced medication, the typical patient wont be a dissident accused of being crazy. For the typical patient the problem is the meds dont make them fully normal and have side effects, you can say the same about most medicine done for serious conditions in middle aged or older people, medicine wont make you younger, wont restore all function. Schizo drugs are bad but should be reserved for serious cases only.

>> No.12717343

>>12717252
>I can't function in society
Okay, you have a disorder.
>NOoOOoOOoo you can't just say I'm dysfunctional
Take your meds.

>> No.12717913

>>12717252
Is there 'psychiatry' in the room with you right now, Karen?

>> No.12717957

>>12717252
>And whatever legitimate roles psychiatry can have can be relegated to neurology or philosophy.
a neurologist knows the disorders in your brain, what needs to be done and how its effecting you but he doesnt know how to effectively and safely get you back to working order outside of the procedure, and also doesnt give a fuck about your feelings or life story. Philosopher would either confuse them or make them more fucked up even if they were able to identify the problem. Psychiatry is a bit of a meme I dont deny that but it is what it is and their job is to just make normies go back to normal and not mindfuck themselves. I dont look at it very highly for my own reasons but whatever

>> No.12718201

>>12717252
huh i have bipolar 1 and my manic episodes arent angry or sadness, i legit have feelings of intense euphoria and my body cannot sleep no matter what.

>> No.12718291

>>12717252
>Why is this recognized as a legitimate science instead of the quackery it clearly is?
Society as a whole is mentally ill, the vast majority the mental illness if caused by poor lifestyle habits. People just lazy and want a pill they can take to off set their unnatural lifestyle so they go to a psychiatrist, or they are shitty parents who can't deal with their kid so they put them on meds.

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12720287

>>12717252
>The madman tends to form with the doctor, in an unbroken unity, a "couple" ... a structure that formed a kind of microcosm in which were symbolized the massive structures of bourgeois society and values: Family-Child relations, centered on the theme of paternal authority; Transgression-Punishment relations, centered on the theme of immediate justice; Madness-Disorder relations, centered on the theme of social and moral order.

>What we call psychiatric practice is a certain moral tactic contemporary with the end of the eighteenth century, preserved in the rites of asylum, and overlaid by the myths of positivism

>> No.12720288

>>12717252
take your meds, schizo

>> No.12720302

>>12717252
>Why is this recognized as a legitimate science instead of the quackery it clearly is?

Because people keep asking for help for themselves and their family members. The most cost effective 'help' is often powerful drugs and these need to be dispensed by an MD and there has to be the veneer of a scientific Justification for the safety and efficacy of the drugs.

>> No.12720305

>>12718291
It's caused by too much iron.

>> No.12725312

>>12720305
>It's caused by too much iron.
Explain further, I googled and there were a few studies from pre2000 with very limited sample sizes. I already cut iron from my diet for aging purposes, but I'm curious about the effects on mental health.

>> No.12725347

>>12717252

Because it's a branch of medicine, which perverts it heavily. Over-diagnosis and over-medicating are a result of medical ethics which dictates that you should shove pills down someone's throat to avoid a remote chance at harming themselves.

>> No.12727084

>>12717286
>everybody who criticizes me is crazy

>> No.12727094

>>12717252
Psychiatry is a meme, but not because of the reasons you state. It is a meme because none of the studies can be replicated, lmao. Check the replication crisis. What the fuck happened to /sci/ defending pseudosciences?

>> No.12727218

>>12725312
You can see it all around you, much of the western population is scgizophrenic, and only manages to survive by the sheer momentum it got 50+years ago. Things got simplified to the point where everything can be learned by rote and there are no obstacles that need you to think for yourself, the extreme obsession with safety, so that the insane have no possibility to hurt themselves, and it's still failing, because people are just doing things (like cargo cult did) but they don't care or understand any goal or purpose. It's the reason why the prices of housing rise so steeply - there is nothing being produced to pay for those things, as peopld just go to jobs, but little useful is being produced. The west basically lives off imports.

>> No.12727325

My brother has bipolar and he is fucking crazy when he has episodes.

>> No.12727365

I had a truly spiritual moment and because I live in a shit democrat state that only follows science they never let me see a priest or anything in the hospital. I'm a very scientific person but what happened to me was truly a sign of what was to come. Now I'm addicted again to the drug they gave me and feel autistic as fuck. I'm a schizophrenic bipolar uncircumcized jew who is coded Christian and have a bit of a messiah complex.

Group therapy has been infinitely better than the high powered drugs honestly, I've been training my brain this entire quarantine and finally got a vaccine so I'm feeling infinitely powerful honestly, I have gotten to experience powerful visions and tricked myself into believing my brain was hacked by someone to find evil, honestly just trying to prepare for the dystopian future.

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psychiatrists prescribe medication to mentally ill people and to normal people going through rough times to help them push through. SSRIs are objectively better and less damaging than local crack.
ADHD medication makes students that seriously lack behind (not due to mental retardation) perform better and it's side effects are much less severe than meth and other performance enhancing drugs.
it's the same thing when people with non serious asthma take inhalers, yeah asthma is not going to kill them but inhalers are sure as shit better
BD, BPD are psychology

>> No.12728328

>>12717338
>The typical patient will never be forced medication
Then what will the psychiatrist do?

>> No.12728730

>>12717252

mental illness is not a meme, psychiatry is.

>> No.12728794

I asked a psychiatrist to make me a certificate to don't do gym for a year of school and then she insist to give me themeds in the package and accepted,I didn't use that im waiting to sedate someone

>> No.12728829

>>12728328
They dont care, they wont chase you. They only do that for crazy daughters of millionaire families or political dissidents. They also wont lock you for long on a mental hospital because they need the space for other patients. In general doctors just want your money

>> No.12728838

>>12728794
Benzos?

>> No.12729906

Geodon cured my gender dysphoria so I don't give a fuck. Modern medicine is amazing.

T. Diagnosed with bipolar and shizophrenia along with having a photographic memory.

>> No.12729963

>>12728
>>12728838
tavor and haldor

>> No.12730066

>>12729906
*Autogynephilia

>> No.12730189

>>12730066
You're not wrong but I had it bad through virtual reality and having gay digital relationships and all. It was like living a quadruple life.

>> No.12730667

>>12717286
>he thinks you can cure extreme brain glitching(schizophrenzia) by just talking

Yes anon talking about my feelings made not want to stab random women to death for no reason because I suffer from antisocial personality disorder.

>> No.12731480

>>12717252
Psychiatrists don't cure people. They temporarily lobotomize you so that you can solve the problem while your emotions are turned off, then once the problem is solved you can just quit taking the meds and go back to normal.

It's useful.

>> No.12732486

>>12717252
>>my kid can't pay attention in class and stay seated for 8 hours straight
>ADHD
Why other kids can do it ? or push to do a PhD ?

>> No.12732493

>>12717252
Yeah I think thunderf00t debunked psychiatry.

>> No.12732501

>>12717304
Cool blog, now how does that legitimize psychiatrists and their ways?

>> No.12732652

>>12728730
https://youtu.be/0F_kLbtnWWM?t=644

>> No.12733944

>>12732652
this

>> No.12735362

>>12717252
every woman I dated turned out to be insane. like going to psychiartrist on heavy drugs insane during or after our dating.

Yet, the field of pshychiatry does not publicly recognize the insanity of women, even though it is well document throughout history - "a man can never know the weather, the sea, or the mind of a woman."

Therefore until the field of pshychiatry publiclly states all women are insane, phychiartry cannot be trusted because it is not truthful

>> No.12735448

>>12735362
The argument that psychiatry is essentially feminine and thus can't be trusted because female behavior is fundamentally hysterical is self-refuting. You're using psychiatric categories to argue that psychiatry isn't a valid mode of inquiry.

Also, please take your meds, anon. You're less coherent when you're off them.