/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12661635]

>Someone on 4chan makes outlandish scientific claim
>Ask for anon's credibility and/or experience in this field
>He either screeches incoherently about how academics brainwash people or something, dodging the question for 2 hours
Why is the website like this? Why does everyone want to make claims of an astrophysicist without bothering to study to become one? Why do they want me to take their words seriously they haven't proven themselves to be a serious person? What do they expect me to do? Listen and argue with every retard who wants to give their ill-informed hot take?

[Anonymous No.12661637]

>>12661635
>t. midwit
if you dont have the divine intuition you arent fit to be here

[thé vert No.12661642]

Test

[Anonymous No.12661645]

>>12661635
>Why is the website like this?
Because people who don't like it are free to leave.
>Listen and argue with every retard who wants to give their ill-informed hot take?
Stop being such a fucking autist. Somebody somewhere is always being wrong on the internet. You can't stop them and your well reasoned arguments aren't as compelling as their schizo ranting in the eyes of the midwit audience.

[Anonymous No.12661648]

>>12661635
That man looks like absolute genetic garbage.

[Anonymous No.12661664]

>>12661635
>Meet at park
>"It is cold out today"
>"Uhhhm, can you provide a source for that claim???"

[Anonymous No.12661667]

>>12661635
>>Ask for anon's credibility and/or experience in this field
Appeal to authority.
Make your argument. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.12661669]

>>12661635
Ignore the retards and schizos here.
/sqt/ and the generals are the only good parts of /sci/

[Anonymous No.12661682]

>going to /sci/ to talk about science or math
big mistake

[Anonymous No.12661689]

>>12661664
>Meet at park
>"It's cold today"
>"Can you tell me about your experiences with the cold or studying the cold so that your claim can be put into context? After all, someone whose spend years traveling the globe would say that this is warm."
>"Uh! W-We...Well those people are corrupted by the establishment into thinking that its cold!"

[Anonymous No.12661690]

>>12661669
>>12661682
It's not just /sci/ though. It's literally the whole internet in general.

[Anonymous No.12661694]

>>12661690
Web 2.0 was a mistake. It's entire design is to support retarded ideas becoming viral and spreading and people to stay attached to their devices reading more and more nonsense.
There's no point in fighting a crusade against it. Big Tech won. Most of the population will continue being uneducated and retarded and more and more of them will lose all touch with reality as they succumb to schizo narratives formed in their digital enclaves.
Best thing is to ignore this shit. It's a waste of time and energy otherwise.

[Anonymous No.12661718]

>>12661694
Web 2.0 wasnt a mistake. Capitalism was a mistake.
Half the posts on this board are guerrilla marketers and data miners.
The frog doesn't know it is being boiled until you turn the heat up higher.

[Anonymous No.12661723]

>>12661635
Academics are sellouts who would lose their jobs as soon as they say or find any dangerous truths.

[Anonymous No.12661735]

>>12661718
The frog only know be closet bisexual and eat Q hot shit.

[Anonymous No.12661742]

>anon discovering that anonymity doesn’t promote healthy discussions but instead enables losers to dodge questions and soapbox with no social repercussions
Keep up the good work, anon. Maybe in a few months you’ll also realize that /pol/acks are retards.

[Anonymous No.12661747]

>>12661742
Defying commonly held myths is proof of intelligence.
/pol/ is a board of geniuses.
/sci/ is a board of midwits.

[Anonymous No.12661749]

>>12661690
The idea is that the field credibility at least weeds out all the schizos, not saying there arent schizos in the field, but less than in the layman population and people who aren't aware of their giants gaps of knowledge.
Sadly the internet is filled with dimwits, actual retards (sub 70 iq) teenage know-it-alls, schizos and of course trolls. The smaller a community is the easier it is to filter. Which is why I think mods should actually ban threads that belong on /lit/, /his/, /x/ or /pol/.

[Anonymous No.12661754]

>>12661747
>Defying commonly held myths is proof of intelligence.
>/pol/ is a board of geniuses.
>/sci/ is a board of midwits.

[Anonymous No.12661759]

>>12661754
Here is what /sci/ truly is.

[Anonymous No.12661767]

>>12661635
Scientists are not trustworthy; they are greedy cowards.

[Anonymous No.12661772]

>>12661759
>Thinks science is truth rather than a constantly self-correcting discipline
What has /pol/ corrected itself on, ever?

[Anonymous No.12661774]

>>12661635
Every e-scientists is like that.
>>12661637
Based intuitivist poster
>>12661645
Largely this, "someone is wrong on the internet" poster are cancer
>>12661648
Infamious el paso shooter
>>12661664
This
>>12661667
Also this
>>12661669
This anon is also not wrong.
>>12661682
Why not tho?
>>12661689
Wrong and gay.
>>12661723
Autism, the post.
>>12661742
Yeah, that's why we need reddit system where user can attack one another by studying their post history.
>>12661747
But is is /pol/ who starts a lot of myths.
P. S no one is right, everyone is wrong

[Anonymous No.12661809]

>>12661774
go out and find some friends to talk to

[Anonymous No.12661812]

>>12661759
The seeth is palpable in this img kek

[Anonymous No.12661816]

>>12661812
>these levels of cope when the redditurd midwit gets called out for its newfaggotry
poetry.

[Anonymous No.12661828]

>>12661774
>Yeah, that's why we need reddit system where user can attack one another by studying their post history
They have this behind the scenes. It's part of the reason mods and jannies are sworn to secrecy.

[Anonymous No.12661831]

>>12661809
It's a strong sign of narcissism.

[Anonymous No.12661841]

>>12661635
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE CLAIMS ABOUT ASTROLOGY AND THEOLOGY WITHOUT HAVING A DEGREE IN THOSE FIELDS
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT THOSE ARE BS PSEUDO-SCIENCE
>DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR THAT CLAIM

[Anonymous No.12661843]

>>12661635
New to 4chan you are, young master.

[Anonymous No.12661845]

>>12661690
The Internet was a mistake. It should've remained a tool for businesses and academics.

[Anonymous No.12661848]

>>12661831
>It's a strong sign of narcissism.
to talk to people that are not anonymous strangers?
no, i dont think so. this is what normal healthy and well adjusted people do and i suggest you follow that path.

[Anonymous No.12661854]

>>12661635
Who would've thought giving every person an equal opportunity to speak would end up a complete shitshow. Free speech is a myth, most people don't have the authority to exercise free will.

[Anonymous No.12661888]

>>12661635
>Why is the website like this?
The internet is like this. 90% of the content you see online is generated by people who have too much time on their hands who aren’t in any economic demand. 4chan and its social media equivalents (e.g. Reddit and to a lesser extent Twitter) are especially popular among NEETs, pensioners, students, and (you won’t believe this, but it’s true) married women. People who are worth talking to are usually doing cooler things than shitposting on /sci/.

[Anonymous No.12661892]

>>12661888
Also, the difficulty of getting online once served as a barrier to lower value users (because they were too stupid and / or lazy to get access). Accessibility has changed all that. Reddit, for all its flaws, had an arcane UI that kept the idiots out. Once they normified it, the nurses found it, and that was when it became a hotbed of hysterical women who primarily post about Trump, loving abortion, and reality TV.

[Anonymous No.12661947]

>>12661892
>oh no she didn't
>you be hearin what they be sayin on reddit
>oh im connected to dat sekret society reddit
I hope these niggers get GME pumped and dumped out their ass

[Anonymous No.12661975]

>>12661816
youre totally right bro

[Anonymous No.12661995]

>>12661747
Calc 1 problems integrated into the captcha would filter out 95% of the /pol/cels on here.

[Anonymous No.12662029]

>>12661635
>OP pic
>muh everyone here is an incel
kys OP

[Anonymous No.12662067]

You can not even post links to papers on this board because the filter thinks it's spam.

[Anonymous No.12662068]

>>12661812
He's posted it hundreds of times and recently changed the filename after people kept posting archives of him raging

[Anonymous No.12662100]

>>12661635
The reasons for the tardfuckery on /sci/ has already been given by other posters here.

That notwithstanding, /sci/ still attracts just enough genuine scientific thinkers to make sufficiently relevant posts. Perhaps 10%. In addition there is the unqualified humor which perhaps account for another 10%. Then very rarely, probably less than 1%, there are very insightful posts and lines of thought, some of which are very left field but rational, which makes trawling through the sludge somewhat worthwhile.
Finally there is the aspect of appreciating the the rest of the fuckwit posts for what they are. This can be diverse. Just being entertained by the antics of monkeys. Feeling blessed by not being one of them. Being constantly reminded that the fuckwits make up a significant portion of society ( maybe even the majority ). The last aspect can be of significant social, financial and relationship value to the unbiased observer.

[Anonymous No.12662240]

>>12661723
>>12661767
No one says you have to believe what they say. Just understand the topic enough to graduate. Then we know that you aren't just making up random things as you go along.

[Anonymous No.12662254]

>>12661747
>If you're a contrarian who disagrees with everything in a field you did not study, then that means you're intelligent

[Anonymous No.12662282]

>>12662100
>Then very rarely, probably less than 1%, there are very insightful posts and lines of thought, some of which are very left field but rational, which makes trawling through the sludge somewhat worthwhile.
These are the ideas for data-mining so the academics whom harvest threads can publish them as their own.

[Anonymous No.12662287]

>>12661816
cringe

[Anonymous No.12662468]

Sometimes you learn something bouncing ideas off of someone else. You don't have to take the argument seriously, but perhaps you might gain a better understanding of common errors in reasoning the more you come across them, or teach someone to be better.

[Anonymous No.12662479]

>>12661747
based topwit

[Anonymous No.12662487]

>>12661888

[Anonymous No.12662504]

>>12661664
this terrible analogy only proves OPs point?

[Anonymous No.12662510]

>>12662487
wtf

[Anonymous No.12662524]

>>12662510
next time some mutt calls you a globohomo soros shill, consider that you're arguing with a 60 year old q-boomer

[Anonymous No.12662549]

>>12662287
dilate

[Anonymous No.12662563]

Knowledge doesn't care about your credibility or experience, cultist.

[Anonymous No.12662566]

>>12661635
Science is about cross examination and peer review, if everyone stayed only in their field of expertise then nothing would change and only seniors would have a say.
If you can't handle public questioning you should probably just a make a cult where your secret will safe from questioning.

Honestly, it a game of charisma when it comes to public speaking.

[Anonymous No.12662682]

>>12662566
>Science is about cross examination and peer review
Yes. "Peer" meaning other people who study the field. Not a third grader.
>if everyone stayed only in their field of expertise then nothing would change and only seniors would have a say.
This is only true is their limitations are too strict and if only a select group could get degrees in this field. There is nothing stopping you from graduating with a degree in astrophysicist outside cost.
>If you can't handle public questioning you should probably just a make a cult where your secret will safe from questioning.
But the public is generally stupid. There's no point in trying to explain Calc II to someone who is still trying to grasp Algebra II
>Honestly, it a game of charisma when it comes to public speaking.
No. That just invites stupidity and oversimplifying to overshadow things people don't understand.

[Anonymous No.12662830]

>>12661635
>chud poster

[Anonymous No.12663064]

>>12662029
Found the incel lmao

[Anonymous No.12663067]

>>12661637
t. based knower

[Anonymous No.12663076]

If some dude on 4chan can demolish your shitty "science" with facts and logic then its not science. Most science done today is in fact not science.

[Anonymous No.12663081]

>>12663076
>with facts and logic
that never happens

[Anonymous No.12663136]

>>12663081
>that never happens
post link & we'll decide for ourselves

[Anonymous No.12663171]

>>12661718
>Capitalism was a mistake.
what's a better alternative?

[Anonymous No.12663179]

>>12663171
FULLY ESTROGENATED TRANNY COMMUNISM

[Anonymous No.12663198]

>>12661635
There are a lot of genuine schizos on this site

[Anonymous No.12663200]

>>12661718
>Capitalism was a mistake
no, corruption is the real problem.

[Anonymous No.12663201]

>>12662240
>just spend half a decade and tens of thousands of dollars or you're not allowed to point out obvious bullshit on the internet without being called anti-science
Nobody owes you that. Try telling fewer lies and you'll get told you're lying less.

>>12662524
>anybody who disagrees with me is <stereotype>
This is a great self-check to figure out when you're bullshitting. Learn to spot it and correct your behavior

>>12662682
If a third grader can poke a hole in your shit, it doesn't matter that they're a third grader.

>>12663171
Nationalism

[Anonymous No.12663205]

>>12663201
>Nationalism
How the fuck is nationalism an alternative to capitalism

[Anonymous No.12663207]

>>12661635
>Why do they want me to take their words seriously they haven't proven themselves to be a serious person?
What are you hoping to accomplish by asking for experience in the field? If they said they were an expert you would (rightly) assume they were lying

[Anonymous No.12663212]

>>12663201
>t. 60 year old american q-boomer

[Anonymous No.12663226]

>>12663205
*diff anon
domestic market economy protectionism
alternative to inevitable foreign ownership

[Anonymous No.12663234]

>>12663226
Capitalism with tariffs? That would be all right

[Anonymous No.12663243]

>>12663234
>tariffs?
China paying royalties on patents and copyright.

[Anonymous No.12663297]

>>12661689
Correct. Its not warm because that isn't a word. Its cold plus.

[Anonymous No.12663316]

>>12661747
>Defying commonly held myths is proof of intelligence
leave and come back when you are 18

[Anonymous No.12663320]

>>12663316
Cool context-free insult

[Anonymous No.12663332]

>>12661723
This.
Every industry, including science, has it's gate-keeping secrets where the money-making is.

[Anonymous No.12663361]

>>12661635
>Why is the website like this?
>Why is the website like this? Why does everyone want to make claims of an astrophysicist without bothering to study to become one?
/pol/niggers want to feel smart so they come to /sci/ and pretend they're smart.

[Anonymous No.12663366]

>>12662682
>my greatest adversary is a 3rd grader

Have you ever considered you're not as smart as you think you are?

[Anonymous No.12663369]

>>12661635
Right wingers and fascists (there are a lot of them here) are anti-science, except when it suits their ideology.

[Anonymous No.12663372]

>>12663369
true of both sides

[Anonymous No.12663375]

>>12661723
Good picture.

[Anonymous No.12663376]

>>12661635
Nice selfie

[Anonymous No.12663383]

>>12661635
Post credentials

[Anonymous No.12663391]

>>12661635
No one gets (you)s for giving the correct answer, nor one that is most likely correct. Every lackwit here either spouts contrarian nonsense or silently accepts the correct answer and fucks off. Thus even when correct information/answers are posted, they sink into the nether realm. And lets be honest, 4channers are not known for their intelligence or being informed. Its full of dunning-kruger enveloped morons.

>>12661995
Heh, there'd be about 10 people on the entire website remaining.

[Anonymous No.12663403]

/pol/ is actually a more scientific board than this one

[Anonymous No.12663413]

>>12663403
may be true, may not, but it's fun to watch /sci/ducks immediately backtrack their claims that everyone on /sci/ is dumb when faced with such an assertion

[Anonymous No.12663425]

>>12663403
Doubtful.

[Anonymous No.12663464]

>>12663403
pseudo-science is not science.

[Anonymous No.12663467]

>>12663464
What kind of pseudo-science are you referring to?

[Anonymous No.12663495]

>>12663369
That's true for nearly everyone. Very very few people are selfless mavericks of truth, because it's going to cost you nearly all of your social capital and most of your sanity.
Most get a worldview and ideas imposed on them, often paying good money for it, then they go into an endless confirmation bias loop until they die due to a sunk cost of time.

[Anonymous No.12663533]

>>12663403
/pol/ and /x/ are completely autistic and unafraid of weird ideas to solve the unsolvable. Which does make them good at finding anomalies and new ideas.
Think of them as explorers. Universities and most books will never teach take you outside of the known, you need people outside of the system to go poke around and bring back data.

I remember one time they found Buckethead on the International Space Station, it was hilariously glorious.

[Anonymous No.12663543]

>>12661816
>>12661772

[Anonymous No.12663566]

>>12661772
masks

[Anonymous No.12663589]

>>12663566
>used to think they don’t work
>now think they work in the sense that they send 5G waves
Standard of proof not met.

[Autolycus No.12663611]

I stayed in /x/ till being able to tie my nous and do da dasein. Now that I can discern both the real and the ontological, I feel that I can /sci/ without being too much of a nuisance~ or at least without becoming all over the place.

[Anonymous No.12663617]

>>12661635
>Why is the website like this?
mostly wiggers.

A big problem is that establishment midwits are incapable of thinking inductively/outside the box

wiggers on the other hand are incapable of putting aside their self-esteem issues in order to accept the utmost basic facts of reality

I don't trust anything anybody says

[Anonymous No.12663624]

>>12663589
No other way around. In January people were stocking up on masks, by now they've realized that they don't do much

[Anonymous No.12663640]

>>12661635
Appeal to authority is reddit tier, faggot. You should judge people by their arguments not their 'credentials'

[Anonymous No.12663644]

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