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Anonymous Wed Dec 2 06:31:12 2020 No.12411120 [Reply] [Original]

I want to learn by my own to program. How Can I start?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 06:38:49 2020 No.12411135 Programming is for pajeets

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 06:45:45 2020 No.12411143 >>12411135 >planes begin to fall from the sky from software errors

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 06:53:56 2020 No.12411159 >>12411120 Try Sololearn, has really good introductory tutorials.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 06:54:29 2020 No.12411161 >>12411120 Read any book and you're good The problem is not to learn programming It's having the balls to start a project and the motivation to finish it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 06:59:18 2020 No.12411177 >>12411120 Depends on what kind of programming you want to do Games? AI stuff? websites? look around on Youtube and look for tutorials that gear you towards building something

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:00:23 2020 No.12411182 >>12411143 >pajeets are exempt from FAA harassment haha no

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:00:29 2020 No.12411183 >>12411120 Read: How to think like a computer scientist then start a project.

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:01:01 2020 No.12411185

>>12411159
Whatever you do stay away from codecademy. Jesus christ that was infuriating, I started there and was noticing such shitty code even though I knew nothing about programming, like some instructor breaking out of an if statement at the bottom when it's true? It does that automatically! It was just fucking confusing.
But you'll learn most when you just build stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:01:50 2020 No.12411189 i want to start with java, seems to be a basis for everything in my eyes

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:06:01 2020 No.12411203 >>12411177 I want to have a general knowledge, for when I start to thinking on elaborate a project, I already have a base for that

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:07:41 2020 No.12411207 File: 23 KB, 250x328, 250w.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12411120 Read a book on C.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:10:43 2020 No.12411213 >>12411185 lol, ok. I tried to start to have a little knowledge with Khan Academy, and I felt stuck in a topic just

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:40:51 2020 No.12411285

First off, don't pay for a coding camp. YouTube, free PDF books, websites and language documentation (which is just the official programming language webpage that contains all the info about the programming language) is available online. There's a shit ton. What do you want to make? Your goal?

If websites:
Learn html, css, JavaScript (jQuery)
[A bunch of YouTube vids on it or w3school is a good website which also includes other programming languages (not used for websites)]

If software engineer:
C++ is a common language used in Google and University computer science major.

If AI:
Python or C++ is common

If games:
Unity or Unreal are major environments, though not quite sure what languages they use. Just Google it.

If apps:
--Android:
Android studio is a good environment using Java or Kotlin as the programming language.
---ios
Not sure about this one. Maybe use Flutter and I think Kotlin can be used as the programming language.

(Note: you can use unity or Unreal to make a game app)

If general programming:
Similar to software engineer, C++ or python.

If computer science knowledge:
Grab a book, geeksforgeeks website has a bunch of topics.
Major topics:
-graph theory and discrete math
- C++ or python (cuz a lot of universities use it)
-algorithms and data structures
-computer organization
-assembly language
-operating systems
-computational theory
-compilers
-machine learning and ai (not necessary)

I tried putting them in order. You can obviously take 2-3 at a time (eg c++, discrete math and algorithms). For software engineers, algorithms and data structures is very important.

I recommend looking at curriculums of various ivy universities available online. Look at the computer science curriculums and filter out the ones you don't need. There's websites where schools offer programming (and various other subjects) classes for free on Edx.org

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:50:19 2020 No.12411302

>>12411285
Me again. While you're learning this, you must build stuff. Think of something you wanna make and Google is your friend as long as you ask the right questions. Actively create programs even if they surpass the current knowledge you have. It's important.

Programming isn't hard. Literally middle school kids learn it. It's just practice!

Pick a language for your purposes. once you learn one, shifting to another is easy cuz they all pretty much work the same.

Forgot to mention, JavaScript can also be used for AI.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 07:55:38 2020 No.12411313 >>12411185 codecademy is the duolinguo of programming. it's sort of fun to do, but very ineffective and not nearly enough to learn anything useful

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 08:03:08 2020 No.12411325

Easiest way is probably going the python way, just crash through it until you are able to program pythonically, that is just stringing together other people's code. While not glamorous it's the best path for a beginner that will yield results the fastest and teach you the most while also being fun.

Had you asked that question on /g/ they would have told you to study mathematics for five years before even writing a single line of code in assembly

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 08:09:35 2020 No.12411339 >>12411285 thanks, I'll research, and later I'll share the results

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 08:12:33 2020 No.12411343 >>12411325 have a discord profile or something like that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 08:25:19 2020 No.12411378 >>12411339 Yeah python is good. It can be used for general programming and ai.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 08:43:58 2020 No.12411421 >>12411120 Work through the Python documentation. It's a bit boring sometimes, but you'll get ideas for what to do on your own in the way.

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 08:47:38 2020 No.12411423

>>12411285
This is a good starting point, but
>jQuery
Bloated ugly shit, avoid.

>Android studio is a good environment using Java or Kotlin
Always use Kotlin if you must, Java sucks and is on life support already.

>---ios
Swift

I think Rust is worth checking out, but maybe not for a beginner. Other than that I agree with Anon. Especially this:
>don't pay for a coding camp

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 08:48:46 2020 No.12411429 >>12411120 What have you tried? Theres never been a better time to get into coding. Tons of info online.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 08:50:04 2020 No.12411431 >>12411161 >having the balls to start no balls required to start anything >motivation to finish it thats where the problem lies

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 09:01:09 2020 No.12411457 >>12411429 i tried to learn a little on Khan Academy, where they're talking about a "processing", but it looked like I wasn't going anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 14:27:12 2020 No.12412207 >>12411457 Don't do khan retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 14:31:00 2020 No.12412224 >>12411120 w3schools

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 14:34:10 2020 No.12412233 >>12411120 Make javascript

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 14:40:27 2020 No.12412260

>>12411457
if you want python try Think Python. Its a neat starter book, has fun excercises and ends up teaching you OOP. After that book you can start doing your own shit. If you want one beyond this theres that book by Mark Lutz with a rat from O'Reilly or you could try Automate The Boring Things which is actually a fantastic book for a beginner and could actually land you a job if you aren't retarded. Why I recommend python is that its easy and gives you the biggest chance of actually sticking with programming.

If you stick with this, eventually you will make your way to /g/, never ever take their shit seriously, their oppinions on programming are easily 95% bait and bullshit, nobody there is a serious developer and what they recommend is actually harmful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 14:53:17 2020 No.12412301 >>12411423 >jQuery >Bloated ugly shit, avoid. It's still very much necessary un'ress you're using some high level frameworks that replace all it's functions

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 14:55:29 2020 No.12412307 >>12411203 start with console apps, then winforms

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 15:07:05 2020 No.12412356 >>12411423 java is worth getting the basics of for beginners, not to spend a lot of time on though

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 18:02:28 2020 No.12412884 If you have to ask you're too fucking stupid to program. Fuck off and die.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 18:03:54 2020 No.12412888 >>12412224 Good idea if you're a retard who shouldn't be let near even a toaster.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 05:01:10 2020 No.12414468 >>12411120 Just pick a university course available online and stick with it. Don't worry overmuch about learning the "right" language or whatever, it doesn't matter. Here's a good one: http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs106a/index.html#mainNav

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 08:32:30 2020 No.12414825 >>12414468 thanks!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 09:49:52 2020 No.12415007 Also OP. >>12411423 Don't listen to the fags like this one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 09:54:08 2020 No.12415021 >>12411120 Think of a project or Google some simple projects Pick a common coding language Attempt solution (skip on first iteration) Google solution and figure out why it works Repeat until you don't need to Google.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 09:55:49 2020 No.12415026 >>12411431 >Not understanding an and conjunction

Anonymous Thu Dec 3 10:20:05 2020 No.12415100

learn logic. philosophical logic. or at the least figure out how programmers think (early childhood programming experience helps with this), the languages themselves are just a syntax game. Think like a programmer so learning a programming language becomes an aftertought. in other words: Scratch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 11:34:52 2020 No.12415338 >>12415007 Feel free to counter-argue anything. I know you can't tho.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 11:52:19 2020 No.12415415 >>12411285 >curriculums You had me until you showed the depths of your ignorance by not knowing neuter Latin plurals.

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