/cvg/ 5 - comparing to other pandemics edition

[Anonymous No.11624757]

hi yes how are you?

containment thread for everything coronavirus
Have you been diagnosed with coronavirus?

Have you survived or are you currently fighting coronavirus?

Are you a healthcare worker who has to take care of coronavirus patients?

Latest info on treatments and anything else coronavirus?

numbers and data on coronavirus 4 WEEKS AGO:
1,097,508 confirmed infections
58,536 confirm deaths
221,303 confirmed recoveries

numbers and data on coronavirus 2 WEEKS AGO:
1,854,174 confirmed infections
114,291 confirmed deaths
427,896 confirmed recoveries

numbers and data 1 WEEK AGO
2,481,866 confirmed infections
170,455 confirmed deaths
651,540 confirmed recoveries

numbers and data
3,338,196 confirmed infections
235,592 confirmed deaths
1,054,917 confirmed recoveries

[Anonymous No.11624774]

>>11624757
This time, we have something special. We compare this coronavirus to other pandemics. We will try to see what made other pandemics fail, and see if it works on coronavirus.

[Anonymous No.11624816]

>>11624757
>infections per weeek up again
Why? Is it accelerating in US? Lost track of it recent days. Or is the latest week a fluke and it was rising week by week?

[Anonymous No.11624868]

>>11624757
The Chinese virus doesn't exist. It is a hoax by the Jews, just like the holocaust was a hoax.

[Anonymous No.11624893]

>>11624868
Get your pills schizo

[Anonymous No.11624933]

>>11624893
>Get your pills schizo

[Anonymous No.11624941]

>>11624933

[Anonymous No.11624950]

>>11624757
235592/3338196 = 7% death rate for total confirmed case. But what's the estimate infected population wise that's not been tested? Is it ~20-30% of population or more? Why isn't this actually being discussed?

[Anonymous No.11624962]

>>11624950
It's almost impossible to estimate infected populations given the unreliability of antibody tests
The ones currently in use can render a false positive if you have any antibodies for various other coronaviri

[Anonymous No.11624969]

>>11624962
>It's almost impossible to estimate infected populations
We can always estimate. We have good chunk of data right now. We didn't have any data 2 months ago when it was predicted there will be 2+ million death in US by today.

[Anonymous No.11624986]

>>11624969
I meant with enough accuracy to be useful

[Anonymous No.11624996]

Glory to Arstotzka! What Arstotzka is doing to United Fed is what every nation should be doing to China.

[Anonymous No.11624999]

>>11624986
Depends on what you mean by accuracy and what you mean by useful. We have made use of early estimates to various degrees. We have assumed accuracy to various degrees on early estimates. Models updated with new data we have today will almost certainly be infinitely more accurate, but will it be useful? Who knows what use accurate information will be if it can't be used for pushing some goals.

[Anonymous No.11625003]

>>11624996
Glory to Arstotzka Brother!

[Anonymous No.11625030]

>>11624999
By accurate and useful I mean accurate enough to give us a useful insight into how to change our lockdown
If we're going by antibody tests like Sweden did, they concluded that more people had the virus and were a/presymptomatic than the total population of their country

[Anonymous No.11625035]

https://youtu.be/mCa0JXEwDEk
What do fellow anons think?

[Anonymous No.11625528]

>>11624757
Hey hey someone else finally made the cvg general. Grats.

[Anonymous No.11625543]

>>11625035
Wrong model.

[Anonymous No.11626408]

My dad's been feeling like shit lately. No energy, loopy, chills, headaches. I keep asking him to take some vitamin c or something to help it but he's so afraid of coronavirus he refuses to take any treatment or acknowledge that he might have it.

He watches the news all day everyday, 24/7 news cycle all the time CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc. He can't keep his eyes off of it. Hasn't been able to for years, even though it fucks with his anxieties and mental health.

Finally got him to talk to a doctor though. I don't understand his hesitation. The sooner he gets it checked out the better

[Anonymous No.11627291]

>>11626408
Are you guys Mexican by chance?

[Anonymous No.11627312]

>>11627291
No...

[Anonymous No.11627314]

>>11625543
Why? Explain Mr Smartassfag

[Anonymous No.11627332]

>>11625543
Anon this is the right one. It shows the linearity of the pandemic, which may predict where it's going.

[Anonymous No.11627369]

>>11627312
Just wondering, Mexicans have a predilection about going to the hospital and stuff. Maybe he's just really afraid of getting confirmed that he may have the virus anon. Have you tried talking to him?

[Anonymous No.11627427]

>>11627369
I have. He's not comfortable with heart to hearts, especially when it's something that's bothering him. It's like he's a women he just expects the entire family to know what's wrong without any kind of communication with us.

My dad is very strange. I worry for him often since he has no real friends outside of his drug dealer friends, he never tells you what's wrong (especially when mom is around, the only time he's ever opened up to me was when we were far away from Mom), and like I said he's glued to the TV as soon as he gets home from work all day everyday news. Funny enough, whenever I debunk the trash he picks up from the news media, it becomes apparent that he's very comfortable with the narrative the news projects for him. I don't know how he got to that point of view, if it was an escape from something worse or whatever, but that's just who he is.

tl;dr
He's a stubborn as a mule. I'm more than certain he's afraid of getting it. I fell for the fear porn just like he did but eventually I got over it and now it is what it is. I can't even get him to take his temperature. I ordered a pulse oximeter though and I'm hoping that if he lets me use it on him, he'll get some relief, or some fear. And I don't have to talk the dangerous part about his refusal to talk about it or take a test is that if he doesn't check now, it might be too late later on. We'll see
>>11627312
Thanks for filling in anon.

[Anonymous No.11627430]

>>11627369
Tried to, he doesn't just wanna leave. He keep shaking and vomiting at the idea. He tried to sleep everyday on the couch, but ends up waking up after 1 hour and vomiting at the toilet. Tips?

[Anonymous No.11627456]

>>11627427
Hope your dad is feeling well... Have you tried to help mediate? Maybe let him read a book.

[Anonymous No.11627499]

>>11627456
He has a very troubled past and a lot of childhood trauma. I admire him a lot even though he is the way he is. He used to be a major alcoholic even with my mom around, but he quit the day my mom was pregnant with me.

The only thing that's worked sort of is therapy, but he can't do that easily right now so he doesn't. I had a long talk about with a therapist some years back and he just told me that since he's coming up on 60, there's really no changing him. Maybe some reconciliation and truth therapy is possible but not much else. He is stuck in his ways.

It could also be from him falling down a ladder 2 days ago. Idk. Thanks for the hopes though anon. I'm here for him, so he'll be just fine and safe.

[Anonymous No.11627550]

>>11627499
You're a very good whatever you gender is. I respect you for who you are. What type of childhood trauma did he get that made him the way he is? Who caused it? I hope your father battles this terrible condition he's facing. Sure he's gonna become 60 but I have heard many over 60 year olds change, one used to be a very large alcoholic, drug user, was sexually abused by multiple relatives, and the day he felt like he wanted to just be there and sleep everytime, he decided to say no and change. Sounds cliche but that happened, now he has multiple children he takes care of.

I know this quote sounds cringe and 'cliche' but it applies well
"There's nothing known as failure unless the man doesn't change until he dies, thinking what he was a failure".

Diets are really important, the diet you choose will determine the life and lifestyle you have. Maybe help with finding out good recipes...

[Anonymous No.11627577]

>>11627550
Where do I start. His father was a bastard son, both of his biological parents were drunks who orphaned him at the hospital with no name. He was picked up my a small foster home along with his biological brother (not twins strangely enough). The parents there basically took care of him but they were very neglectful and rude. He always tells me how they used to use him and abuse him for their own gain whenever they could, be it social clout or an extra buck. He had to watch one his brothers from the foster home get abducted. Apparently it was his brothers biological parents who didn't have custody of him, my dad was 15. He was going into a barber shop with his brother, but when he turned back to see where he was it was too late.

He eventually got adopted into a nice family, but as soon as he entered high school he was a huge druggie. He tells me it took a lot of time to recover from that stage in his life, eventually he went from drug addict to alcoholic. he spent a lot of his adult life sleeping on strangers couches and taking whatever job he could. When he met my mom he was living in this stinking old apartment in a very run down part of town. He changed a lot since he met her though, my mother is very controlling and domineering and I guess that's exactly what he needed in his life. He still smokes pot but that's it.

Feels kind of weird listing my father's history out like that on coronavirus general but I love a good story. It's not too late for him I suppose. I don't know what I can do, maybe just nudge him in the right direction. Or take a stand? No he'll just turtle up.

Diet? He's a junkie. Always has been. Can't stand the sight of healthy food only eats junk food. You'd be surprised to know he's very skinny though.
That's about it though. Thank you for you kindness anon.

[Anonymous No.11627869]

>>11627577
Hmmm. Maybe give him something that motivates him. I think that will work.

[Anonymous No.11627872]

>>11627577
Music also works...

[Anonymous No.11628015]

>>11624868
>>>/x/
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.11628030]

>>11624757
I have been having coughing and vomiting every time, I have lost my taste and smell. Do I have COVID-19?

[Anonymous No.11628039]

>>11628030
Are you feeling dizzy?

[Anonymous No.11628739]

>>11628030
>I have lost my taste and smell.
If this is an accurate statement, then yes, most likely. There are not a lot of things that cause temporary loss of taste and smell. COVID-19 is one of a very small number of diseases that do that, and it's not very likely that you have one of the other rare exotic diseases that cause that symptom.

[Anonymous No.11630075]

>permanent lung damage
>cant recover from it
>jumps from animals to humans and back to different kinds of animals in days while other diseases take thousands of years
bioweapon 100%

[Anonymous No.11630919]

>>11630075
Oy vey delete this, you schizo! Your opinions won't be taken seriously because you're crazy.

[Anonymous No.11630926]

>>11630919
>>11630075
Pretty shity bio-weapon considering most people are asymptomatic

[Anonymous No.11630936]

>>11630075
I don't think it's not a bioweapon but it probably did escape from that Wuhan lab considering:

1. There were no bats sold on the wet market
2. Bats with coronavirus reservoirs live in Yunnan province miles away from Wuhan.
3. Lab animals from that particular lab have ended up being sold on the wet market before.

Someone in the Wuhan lab fucked up but China will never admit to it.

[Anonymous No.11630938]

>>11630075
I don't think it's a bioweapon but it probably did escape from that Wuhan lab considering:

1. There were no bats sold on the wet market
2. Bats with coronavirus reservoirs live in Yunnan province miles away from Wuhan.
3. Lab animals from that particular lab have ended up being sold on the wet market before.

Someone in the Wuhan lab fucked up but China will never admit to it.

[Anonymous No.11630960]

>>11624757
Fake news photoshop BS, Arstotzka was absorbed into Vortyunaia in Nov '82 by the treaty of Grestin. This paper would never had been printed.

[Anonymous No.11631026]

>>11630960
All I'm hearing are a bunch of lies...
>>11630938
It's how China works, they do a mistake and never admit it. These fuckers are ruining the lives of the Chinese and worldwide people all around. The CCP are the most incompetent villains of all times and that's saying a lot.

[Anonymous No.11631098]

>>11631026
Make China a dynasty again

[Anonymous No.11631167]

>>11631098
Even when it was dynasty, it kept attacking itself rather than being allied. There were different kingdoms in China that you'd consider China the name of an area not a nation lol.

[Anonymous No.11631195]

>>11628739

How do you currently treat the Coronavirus? I have diagnosed and tested a bit 'positive'. What can I do?

[Anonymous No.11631197]

>>11631195
A bit positive? A bit? Do you mean you got a small viral load and your symptoms are mild?

Take vitamin c and d, don't exercise or strain yourself, if you want to get a nebulizer and some medicine in case shit gets really bad.

[Anonymous No.11631205]

Answer

[Anonymous No.11631207]

>>11631195
Bed rest, drink lots of water, monitor your fever. If possible, have a friend or family member go buy you a pulse oximeter, and use that to check your blood oxygen levels.

Go to the hospital if:
>your fever hits 104
>your blood oxygen drops below 90% and stays there for half an hour or longer
>you experience significant chest pain, especially if it's sudden

[Anonymous No.11631208]

>>11631197
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.11631212]

>>11631207
Thanks to you anon. I don't have that much vitamin C in my body.

[Anonymous No.11631345]

so what if i sniff her feet? Will my lungs feel heavy and will it hurt to breathe?

[Anonymous No.11631348]

>>11631345
Her feet is the senses controller, you won't be able to smell or taste anything after licking her feet. You will have the COVID-19.

[Anonymous No.11631353]

>>11631348
but what about sniffing them? I would think that since she makes it hard to breathe her feet would no doubt constrict your lungs and make you feel like you have bricks on your chest.

[Anonymous No.11631363]

>>11628030
Same anon, these headaches are f*cking annoying me. I can't even walk well. It feels I'm gonna die soon
>>11628039
Not him, but yes I'm feel dizzy that I just wanna stop feeling what I'm feeling right now. I'm also having a vertigo.
>>11631197
I have tried taking vitamin C & D from multiple meals my wife made. I can't exercise as I mostly sleep every 2 hours, I sleep for one hour and then go back to vomiting. I have tried taking meds my doctor prescribed.
>>11631207
The hospitals are bloody expensive. Tried going to the hospital, said they were full.
Anons, do you think I will survive?

[Anonymous No.11631369]

>>11631353

[Anonymous No.11631372]

>>11631369
im 140 pounds dumbfuck redditor

[Anonymous No.11631376]

>>11631363
Find a way to get ahold of some hydroxychloroquine maybe? Idk. There really isn't an established treatment yet. Remdesivir?

[Anonymous No.11631386]

>>11631376
Have tried hydroxychloroquine, made me feel good but later gave me horrible side effects.
Haven't tried Remdesivir yet, hopefully it's good.

[Anonymous No.11631390]

>>11631363
Where do you live? New York? Even there you can get some hospital space, most hospitals are practically empty.

[Anonymous No.11631391]

>>11631372
>+Subscribe
>you r*dditor
Hypocrite fag, go back to r*ddit.

[Anonymous No.11631392]

>>11631386
Bullshit rp try harder faggot
>>11631390
He's full of shit man don't believe him

[Anonymous No.11631395]

>>11631391
its a 4 year old image you fucking newfaggot nigger kike

[Anonymous No.11631406]

>>11631395
>Not being able to stop a sarcastic post
>hurr durr newfag
Fuck off pedo retard, kys

[Anonymous No.11631412]

>>11631390
I can say that your guess is correct. The hospitals I live near to are full, I have to drive really far away in order to find a good empty hospital. Keep in mynd that I found out the hospitals are full in early April. I wonder if that changed.
>11631392
Sure Anon. Say what you want...

[Anonymous No.11631417]

>>11631406
>Stop
Check your spelling retard.
Also pedo? She's 400 years old retard.

[Anonymous No.11631418]

>>11631406
she's 20 retard kike

[Anonymous No.11631439]

>>11624933

[Anonymous No.11631449]

>>11631439

[Anonymous No.11631451]

>>11631449
die kike

[Anonymous No.11631550]

>>11631451
>die kike

[Anonymous No.11631611]

>>11631550

[Anonymous No.11631624]

>>11631439
>>11631449
>>11631451
>>11631550
>>11631611
Autism moment

[Anonymous No.11631673]

Was excited to see a coronavirus general, ended up being a worse thread to read than /pol/. That's saying a lot.

[Anonymous No.11631751]

>>11631439

[Anonymous No.11631823]

>>11631751

[Anonymous No.11632135]

>>11631353
Her asshole... Yumm

[Anonymous No.11632387]

What's worse? COVID-19 or bad economy?

[Anonymous No.11632517]

This thread is dead, can anyone make it alive at least?

[Anonymous No.11632576]

Thoughts on data?

[Anonymous No.11632606]

>>11632576
Nice data Mr. Ant.

[Anonymous No.11633072]

Hi /sci/
Please, answe me this:
How likely are you to die if you're an asymptomatic carrier?
Can you provide a source? I can't find anything concretre on google.
My aunt tested positive but she's asymptomatic, and I'm trying to downplay it to my mom so she doesn't suffer a breakdown, but I want to know the real odds.

[Anonymous No.11633131]

>>11626408
Lots of water + blankets everywhere but forehead, and feed him food with lots of fat and oil (coconut oil for monolaurin but any will do), and vitamin c and zinc.
Mostly lots of water and big meal high in fats

[Anonymous No.11633138]

>>11633072
>How likely are you to die if you're an asymptomatic carrier?
0%? Pretty much by definition, you can't die while being asymptomatic, because death is a symptom of disease.

Your aunt should isolate for 8 days, and if symptoms never appear she's basically good to go. If you're really worried, get her a pulse oximeter ($30 to $60 at a pharmacy or grocery store, unless your area is particularly hard hit there should still be stock on shelves), and have her test her blood oxygen every couple hours; if she's at 95% or higher there's nothing to worry about, 90 to 94% she should contact her doctor, and if it goes to 89% or lower and stays there for any amount of time she should go to the ER.

Other that that, I mean, if she doesn't develop a fever, and her blood oxygen stays above 95%, and she doesn't develop symptoms then... well, she's fine. COVID can occasionally turn nasty fairly quickly, yes, but it doesn't do so instantly, and as long as you're watching your vitals you can get help before it crosses the point of no return.

[Anonymous No.11633180]

>>11633138
Thanks for the reply, anon.
She's on her own in Canada so there's not much I can do from here but I'll tell her about the pulse oximeter.

[Anonymous No.11633256]

>>11624757
reminder that the suspension of civil liberties is never temporary
reminder that the PATRIOT act was supposed to be phased out completely in 2005 and is still around

[Anonymous No.11634018]

>>11632576
False

[Anonymous No.11634219]

>>11624868
Drink your bleach.

[Anonymous No.11634226]

>>11630075
>>11624868
Drink your bleach.

[Anonymous No.11634241]

fucking idiot here. Give me the honest rundown for the United States. Are we fucked or are we slowly getting better?

[Anonymous No.11634338]

>>11634241
We're fucked. You don't even know man we are so fucked.

The virus? It's fucking nothing. They're pumping the fear up and getting people to surrender their liberties just like they did back in 2001 just so they can consolidate more power over people and get them to accept it.

Not once, not ever not during any pandemic or outbreak has the US ever made people stay in their homes like this. Stop buying the narratives that this is the new normal. They want you to think that so they can get away with their power grabs.

The virus will become endemic and can't be stopped, but by next year it'll be literally nothing and you'll probably forget about it. You know what you won't forget? The fact that you let the state tell you that you have to stay inside because they said so.

No joke they're arresting people for walking their dogs in the park or walking down the sidewalk in some states. Coronavirus is temporary, the slow erosion of your civil liberties is permanent. You will never get them back. Ever. Only by force or blood or some miracle.

[Anonymous No.11634353]

>>11634338
I live in Commifornia and I see people on bicycles. Walking their dogs, jogging, everything really.
Granted I live in a red county but living in Commifornia has to account for something.

[Anonymous No.11634357]

>>11634353
Yeah I live in NYC and seems like everybody was outside today. Passed several cops, they idn't even say anything.
That said I do agree with that poster's general point. The number of people calling for government enforcement and actively shitting on people who disagree is freaky.

[Anonymous No.11634363]

>>11634353
They really should open businesses up again. People are all over the place in parks outside this supposed lockdown is so mellow it's not even working. All it's doing is starving small businesses and making companies lay people off.

[Anonymous No.11634374]

>>11634357
They're hooked onto the fear porn.
I never could handle the legacy media I hate their bullshit. Their tone, the way they talk, everything is totally fabricated and socially engineered for views and clicks. They don't even care about the news there just bait at this point.

It's amazing how many people can't even see that though, or they see that but they don't care and just let the corruption happen.

[Anonymous No.11634917]

>>11634338
Based, it's a nothingburger

[Anonymous No.11634922]

>>11634338
Based, it's a nothingburger
>>11634374
They're liars, the democRATS are at it again.

[Anonymous No.11635136]

>>11634338
Ignore this schizo. He's a Facebook boomer brainwashed by gun rights lobbyist propaganda

[Anonymous No.11635163]

>>11635136
Ignore this schizo. He's a Discord tranny brainwashed by HRT and progressive propaganda

[Anonymous No.11635280]

So are manlets going to be more prone to catch covid because there are more coof particles down there?

[Anonymous No.11635419]

>>11635163
Ironic how the left calls us 'schizos' even though they believe in shit like the Russian Interference with elections.

[Anonymous No.11635448]

>>11624757
Holy shit. Yikes!

[Anonymous No.11635975]

>>11635448
Forgettable leader. No one gives a shit. Show me someone more memorable than a retarded bong.

[Anonymous No.11636007]

>dat 0,2 IFR%

I'm not complaining, but why did we shut dow everything over this thing?

>>11631195
Adding to what other anons have said:
*keep a daily log of your symptons
*if you get a pulse oxymeter remember to take baseline measurements (or 'not so fucked yet' measurements since you're already pozz'd)
*postural drainage
*nebulization with NAC solution (super important to aid expectoration if you're gonna use a mucolytic so don't skimp on the PD)
*NAC also comes in fizzy tablets and there's also guaifenesin (which might not do much but won't hurt either), just be extra careful and avoid combination solutions - DMX or some other shit could kill you
*always keep your bananaphone at hand since your condition can deteriorate rapidly in a fairly short timespan (docs have reported cases of strapping young lads going from "a-OK" to "oh shit he needs oxygen" in just ~5 hours)

[Anonymous No.11636009]

So corona virus is a hoax right? by now I would have expected lots of 4channellers to have the virus given how dangerous it supposedly is but not once have I seen someone on 4chan with it nor have I ever seen anyone with it in real life.

[Anonymous No.11636151]

>its just the flu bros

[Anonymous No.11636157]

>>11636009
>I would have expected lots of 4channellers to have the virus
It's pretty hard to get it when you never leave the house

[Anonymous No.11636360]

>>11636151
Source to that?

[Anonymous No.11636378]

>>11636360
He has none.

[Anonymous No.11636386]

>>11636151
>Guayas, Ecuador
seems like the author is searching out cities with increased death rates

[Anonymous No.11636795]

>>11636386
Yeah, that's what the title on the infographic says, retard.

[Anonymous No.11637099]

>>11636360
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1254461533880496128
>>11636378
twitter handle and data source is right on the image.

[Anonymous No.11637132]

>>11637099
The virgin
>We have to open things up! Businesses will die out, people get laid off, millions will starve!

vs the chad
>stay inside! Businesses are dying out! Millions are getting laid off and millions more will starve! The global economy will collapse!

[Anonymous No.11637599]

>>11637132
Opposite bro

[Anonymous No.11638213]

>>11637599
Your mom's gender is the opposite.

[Anonymous No.11638433]

>tfw we just barely creeped past 250k deaths within the past couple of days
Damn, I guess the initial outbreak really is slowing down huh.

My state is slowly reopening shit which I have mixed feelings about. I kinda don't want to go back to society yet but at least America is stupid enough to reopen so soon, meaning we'll probably get fucked by another wave of this and have to have everything locked down again.

[Anonymous No.11638959]

>>11624816
It's stayed around 28,000 a day for about 2 weeks now, but scientists are predicting it'll go up soon. Likely because most of the numbers were being contributed to by New York, and they are finally calming down, but the rest of the states have been growing.

[Anonymous No.11639597]

>>11638433
>>11638959
Remember that reported cases don't show the actual cases. You need tests to find out those cases.

[Anonymous No.11639750]

What do masks do?

[Anonymous No.11639897]

Uh, yikes.

[Anonymous No.11640070]

>>11639897
https://twitter.com/BillHanage/status/1256422856436613126?s=19

[Anonymous No.11640113]

I have corona, and I just noticed that I can’t stand salty foods anymore.
Canned soups, pesto, pickles, ketchup, ham, cheese, you name it.
Most of the foods taste so salty now, they make my eyes water.
So I’m just limited to eating porridge, carrots, and sweetened yoghurt, which sucks because I really miss a good steak.
It eventually goes away, r-right?

[Anonymous No.11641018]

I don't completely understand how covid-19 "dies"

Is this virus like decaying nuclear material?

Does it last longer in the fridge than in room temperature?

What about humidity?

Does it die in open air faster than pressed between two layers of plastic in some substance?

[Anonymous No.11641169]

>>11640113
I've heard that sense of taste and smell disappear when infected but haven't heard that salty foods turn unpalatable. Can you still taste?

Also, how is your disease going? Utterly ill, mild, etc?

[Anonymous No.11641176]

Last week:
>Ferguson leads a team of mathematical modellers at Imperial — about six of whom have the coronavirus, including him. Their projections of how the pandemic will unfold have dominated government policy-making. This is a marked change to previous epidemics where ministers have called in teams of modellers from rival universities who compete to work out the best responses.

>Yet for other scientists the big problem with Ferguson’s model is that nobody can tell how it - the 13 year old piece of software - works. It consists of several thousand lines of dense computer code, with no description of which bits of code do what. Ferguson agreed this is a problem. “For me the code is not a mess, but it’s all in my head, completely undocumented. Nobody would be able to use it . . . and I don’t have the bandwidth to support individual users.”

>Last week he and his colleagues published new research showing that if unchecked it would infect almost everyone in the world, killing about 40 million people in a year. But with prompt health measures just over a million would die.

This week:
>The scientist whose advice prompted Boris Johnson to lock down Britain resigned from his Government advisory position on Tuesday night as he broke social distancing rules to meet his married lover.

>Ferguson allowed the woman to visit him at home during the lockdown while lecturing the public on the need for strict social distancing in order to reduce the spread of coronavirus. Mrs Staats, a left-wing campaigner and her husband live together with their two children in a £1.9 million home, but are understood to be in an open marriage.

>Prof Ferguson has frequently appeared in the media to support the lockdown and praised the "very intensive social distancing" measures.

>"I acted in the belief that I was immune, having tested positive for coronavirus, and completely isolated myself for almost two weeks after developing symptoms.

So Ferguson is both a Doomer and a Coomer. What a world.

[Anonymous No.11641183]

California announced they are ramping up contact tracing and people are losing their minds.

As I understand it, if you get sick they ask who you've been in contact with in the last 14 days and then they send a text/call those people.

Am I missing out on something? Seems to me that your phone number isn't exactly top secret info not available to the government but people are screaming about Hitler-eques fascism.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.11641208]

>>11624757
which one is the real news /sci/ ?

[Anonymous No.11641222]

>>11641018
Viral particles are made up of structural proteins. Individual proteins are held together by covalent bonds between amino acids, and keep their shape through disulfide bridges and crystalline domains where nearby amino acids interact. When this is directly exposed to certain kinds of surfaces it will degrade due to chemical reactions with the surface material. Metals are pretty inert, with certain exceptions, which is why COVID falls apart on them.

Humidity would probably increase the rate of death because it changes the medium to a better one for reactions, which we've seen confirmed tentatively. It would last longer at low temperatures because the reactions that cause decay should proceed slower. It should live longer in open air than in between layers of plastic, with the exception that if the plastic is shielding it from UV rays (which are highly reactive with polymers like proteins) the decay rate will be slower than in open air. E.g., it will decay slower encased in plastic outside than in direct exposure to the air where it can encounter UV rays.

[Anonymous No.11641223]

>>11641176
Source on these? I'd like to read more, looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.11641230]

>most of the damage in COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, is caused by the immune system carrying out a scorched earth defense to stop the virus from spreading. Millions of cells from the immune system invade the infected lung tissue and cause massive amounts of damage in the process of cleaning out the virus and any infected cells.

Does anyone actually know what the coronavirus does inside the body? What does it specifically attack and by what mechanism?

[Anonymous No.11641245]

>>11641223
If it's paywalled, there are extensions around that.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/neil-ferguson-interview-no-10s-infection-guru-recruits-game-developers-to-build-coronavirus-pandemic-model-zl5rdtjq5
https://github.com/mrc-ide/covid-sim
https://unherd.com/thepost/imperials-prof-neil-ferguson-responds-to-the-swedish-critique/
https://unherd.com/thepost/coming-up-epidemiologist-prof-johan-giesecke-shares-lessons-from-sweden/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/05/exclusive-government-scientist-neil-ferguson-resigns-breaking/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-adviser-prof-neil-ferguson-resigns-after-breaking-lockdown-rules

[Anonymous No.11641269]

>>11641176
>Mrs Staats, a left-wing campaigner and her husband live together with their two children in a £1.9 million home, but are understood to be in an open marriage.
Jesus fucking Christ, how disgusting. An "open marriage" with kids?

[Anonymous No.11641351]

>>11641230
What
You’re literally quoting it

[Anonymous No.11641357]

>>11641351
What does the coronavirus attack and how that makes the immune system sperg?

[Anonymous No.11641445]

>>11626408
Destroy his television and tell him to relax.

[Anonymous No.11641483]

>NO NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME THIS THING IS THE END OF THE WORLD EVEN THOUGH SPANISH FLU/EBOLA/ZIKA/SARS/PLAGUE/WEST NILE VIRUS DIDN'T END THE WORLD THIS TIME FOR REAL ITS GONNA END IT GOES THROUGH WALLS AND CALLS TESTICULAR DAMAGE AND IT KEEPS COMING BACK UNTIL IT KILLS YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHERE IS MY TRUMPBUX

[Anonymous No.11641622]

>>11641483
>NOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME THAT THE COVID-19 WON'T DO BAD STUFF LET'S REOPEN THE US EVEN THOUGH IT'S NUMBER 1 OF MOST CASES I DON'T CARE ABOUT OLD PEOPLE AHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.11641645]

>>11630926
Unless the virus was just a highly transmissible vector for gene editing

[Anonymous No.11641653]

>>11641622
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T OPEN THINGS UP! I DON'T CARE IF MILLIONS WILL STARVE AND MILLIONS WILL BE OUT OF A JOB ITS THE END IF THE WORLD!

what if we just quarantine those in high risk categories and let those who aren't in risk get on with their lives?

>REEEEEEE NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LET THEM OUT! ITS THE END OF THE WORLD NOOOOOOOO WE HAVE TO LET THE GLOBAL ECONOMY COLLAPSE MILLIONS WILL DIE OF CORONA NOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.11641669]

>>11638433
>>11639597
New York started listing every death as "corona related' even if someone didn't have it and died for stupid reason (i.e. shot with a gun).
Wildly skewed information.

[Anonymous No.11641683]

>>11641653
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST WAIT IT WILL BE THE END OF ECONOMY ECONOMY MORE IMPORTANT THAN HEALTH I'M GONNA LABEL WHAT YOU SAY AS END OF THE WORLD EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD BUT IT WILL STILL KILL MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAHA I WIN

[Anonymous No.11641688]

>>11641669
Those filthy democRATS, trying take every bit of our freedom! We must fight back, they're trying to exaggerate every bit of COVID-19 even if it isn't true. NPCs will believe them of course.

[Anonymous No.11641701]

>>11624757
This entire thread is eye cancer, can the JANNIES clean it please?

[Anonymous No.11641736]

>>11641683
>NOOOOOOOOO I DONT CARE IF MILLIONS WILL STARVE OR IF THE MARKET CRASHES THE VIRUS WILL KILL MORE!

No one's stopping you from quarantining yourself or wearing a mask. Why can't the government just strongly encourage protection without forcing businesses to close?

>NOOOOO THE PEOPLE CANT BE TRUSTED WE NEED MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL NOOOOOOO I DON'T CARE IF ITS ALL THE MEDIA'S FAULT FOR MISINFORMING THE PUBLIC WE STILL NEED MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL NOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.11641761]

>>11641683
>>11641653
>>11641622
>>11641483
And /pol/cucks wonder why their containment thread on here keeps getting deleted.

[Anonymous No.11641905]

>>11641736
>NOOOOO I HATE GOVERMENT I WONT GET VACCINES LET IDIOTS INFECT OTHERS I DON'T CARE BUSINESSES ARE GOOD EVEN THOUGH THEY WORK FOR THE MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT NOOOO I BELIEVE YOU ARE WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT WANT BUSINESSES TO CLOSE DOWN YES

[Anonymous No.11641908]

>>11641761
>M-M-Muh /pol/!!! /POL/!!!

[Anonymous No.11641927]

>>11641908
Eat shit /pol/tard, you people use the wojak greentext combo, the most low IQ retarded combo ever, only low IQ retards use it
Both of you retards are pathetic I'm surprised your mother hasn't kicked you out of your basement.

[Anonymous No.11641933]

>>11641927
>Eat shit /pol/tard, you people use the wojak greentext combo, the most low IQ retarded combo ever, only low IQ retards use it. Both of you retards are pathetic I'm surprised your mother hasn't kicked you out of your basement.

[Anonymous No.11641957]

>>11641351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj2vB_VITXQ&t=934s

[Anonymous No.11641978]

>>11634353
>>11634357
>>11634338
I understand this from a born hypochondriac's point of view. How people are living now, suspicious of being in a grocery store around strangers and jumpy over every cough is how I live from December-February every single year.
I'd rather get infected and take the small risk of death doing what I enjoy than continue to live in perpetual avoidance of my fear.
People are already giving less and less of a fuck every day. America's attention span is too short for something as slow as a pandemic. If the outbreaks turns out to be a truly horrific prolonged act of bioterrorism, we're going to be held up as the textbook example of what not to do but we can't help ourselves. We'll crumble into a third-world country and accept a life expectancy under 70 before we'll commit to a wartime effort against an enemy that we can't bomb.

[Anonymous No.11642001]

>>11641978
Thankfully it doesn't seem like it's going to be as bad as the initial predictions were. If it becomes endemic, it will likely become far less lethal and more like the flu over time.

I think the biggest threat outside of people not going to work and the economy collapsing is >>11641645, oh I don't know anything about who would be capable of that and why that hasn't been done before with other viruses that already exist

[Anonymous No.11642056]

>>11642001
Honestly, the flu didn't shut down a lot of hospitals and overfill them. COVID-19 did though.

[Anonymous No.11642075]

>>11642056
In a lot of other areas, the projected burden on hospitals was criminally inaccurate. The volume actually seen was like a quarter of the projection.

[Anonymous No.11642133]

>>11642075
>>11642056
On top of this, this is with a new virus. I guarantee you that the only reason this is a bigger deal than the flu right now is because it's new and almost nobody's immune systems are tuned against it.

Watch, over the next 2 or 3 years it'll go from big scary virus to, looming threat, to the new flu. It mutates often and the strain that will survive the best will be the least deadliest one.

[Anonymous No.11642244]

>>11641169
>I've heard that sense of taste and smell disappear when infected but haven't heard that salty foods turn unpalatable. Can you still taste?
Matter of fact, I can. But I cannot smell. Strange. Maybe the overwhelming taste of salt comes from not detecting the subtler flavours in the food anymore?
>Also, how is your disease going? Utterly ill, mild, etc?
Well, it depends really. I don’t have a fever, sore throat, or runny nose. But I do have ”motion sickness” now. This causes me to vomit once in a while. And also, the meanest cough. I mean, airways feel like walling up if I stop doing it. Fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.11642258]

Im quite certain I had cv12 sometime late April, I had nearly all symptoms and have had reduced lung function since although it has been getting better. I am an asthmatic with a history of minimal attacks/issues even as a smoker but this was something quite severe that had me light headed and very weak for about two to three weeks. During this time I spent nearly every waking second smoking weed to combat all of the negative effects while puffing on my inhaler like a chimney. (Ii rarely go to the doctors and am certainly not a hypochondriac but I assume the above because I'm a high risk due to the volume of people I see from out of country on a daily basis)

[Anonymous No.11642271]

ITS JUST THE FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[i am the virus coof coof achoo No.11642291]

I WANNA HUFF HER FEET AND INFECT MY LUNGS

[Anonymous No.11642555]

>>11642133
>It mutates often and the strain that will survive the best will be the least deadliest one
I don't think you understand how long it takes for a virus that already only kills 1% of the population to be down-selected to .1%
Literal decades

[Anonymous No.11642693]

>>11642555
It's only killing .1% now, every time they do the meme antibody tests, they find out way more people already have them, then cry about how they are inaccurate. Yeah, dozens of tests for antibodies in countries all over the planet all saying the same thing time and again when people are tested - that way way more people have been infected (which they are fine accepting) and developed antibodies (REEEE NOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A DEFENSE BUILT UP STAY HOME DON'T DEAD OPEN INSIDE).

[Anonymous No.11642716]

>>11642693
The issue with antibody tests is how many people you need to test to get a representative sample
With even a slight error this can balloon into retardation, as happened in Sweden when they temporarily concluded that more people had the virus and were asymptomatic than their entire population

[Anonymous No.11643375]

>>11641269
Why is that disgusting? Muh tradishuns?

[Anonymous No.11643732]

>>11642291
>I WANNA HUFF HER FEET AND INFECT MY LUNGS

[Anonymous No.11644290]

>>11624816
More testing. We're finding out that it is far more infectious than anyone thought and lots of people already had it without even knowing. Might as well just guess the ultimate number of cases to be something like total population times 0.9 so something like that.

[Anonymous No.11645984]

It's just a flu bro don't worry why you worry?

[Anonymous No.11646474]

>>11643732
Go to /a/ creep

[Anonymous No.11646889]

There is a noticeable uptick in the rate of infections, especially clear in Iran. Is this a result of Ramadan?

[Anonymous No.11647332]

Anyone can recommend some good news sites to keep up to date regarding the whole shitfest?

[Anonymous No.11647377]

>>11642001
>oh I don't know anything about who would be capable of that and why that hasn't been done before with other viruses that already exist

The chinks have had lax (or no) stem cell guidelines for decades.
Combine that with a culture of ignoring regulation and human rights.
If some lab was doing illegal longitudinal genetic research, and keeping it a secret, they could have made a quantum leap in genetics.

I think that the viral genome is probably too small to be a genetic weapon, but what if it were released to sound the alarm that the perfect bio-weapon was a few generations away from completion.

[Anonymous No.11647730]

>>11647332
This one lets you select linear and logarithmic plots:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Anonymous No.11648932]

>>11647377
Who knows, maybe some helped. Some with 'long noses'.
>Inb4 /x/chizo go to /x/ idiot

[Anonymous No.11649978]

>>11648932
Hang yourself