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9994631 No.9994631[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Could it be that we only verbally think because we saw it in anime movies books and video games?
Maybe it's not natural.

>> No.9994662

Well, in most media thinking is done as a monologue, in movies, books and TV shows if they need to explain what the character is thinking it would most likely be done as a monologue.
If monologue thinking was learnt by media I think most people would think like that.
I think it's just a matter of what people find more comfortable, I don't think there's any advantage to thinking with a monologue as opposed to abstract or image based thinking.
Not to mention that most people use different 'styles' of thinking in different situations, so a person who might monologue the things he needs to do that day or what he should say at a social situation might use abstract thinking for mathematics.

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9994699

>NPC thread #403

>> No.9994703

ITT: misunderstood facts

did you know you only use 10% of your brain?

>> No.9994723

>>9994703
How do I use 100%

>> No.9994744
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9994744

>>9994723
M E T H

>> No.9994751

>>9994662
Monologuing in mathematics is retarded unless youre stuck

>> No.9994753

>>9994699
>Ai tries to dandq fleshies

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9994759

>>9994631
You're the NPC.

>> No.9994762

>>9994744
Drugs only overheat the brain

>> No.9994765

>>9994759
XKCD is reddit because it's defensive, apologetic, self-deprecating, etc.

Grow a spine and admit that you are not "one of the guys, my dude"

>> No.9994769

>>9994765
Something an NPC would say.

>> No.9994773

Fucking, tons of engineers and autistic people think visually first. Babies think tactfully, and gibber because they know no words. Do you seriously think babies think in gibberish or sensation? How the fuck do you think people did things without language? Smells, touch, heat, pain, colors, flavors, sounds. You can imagine, or conceptualize, all of these things without words. Think of what a brick feels like, you don't think of the word "coarse" you think of when the last you touched brick. The word didn't come first, the sensation came first than the description in words. How the fuck...only retards take this meme seriously. BTW, only whites can be player characters.

>> No.9994775

>>9994769
I don't really care about this NPC meme because I think verbal thinking is a REDUCTION of what the human brain can really do to the limits of language.

What I fucking hate, though, is people who think that any mention of difference is a brag or boast. Get the fuck over yourself.

>> No.9994783

>>9994773
I don't know, maybe they've literally never rephrased an idea before. Or spent hours trying to force their fully formed thoughts into words, rolling the dice each time, hoping the words can somehow convey the idea.

Then being disappointed when the reader reads two words from their sentence and jumps to conclusions based on knee jerk thinking.

>> No.9994784

>>9994723
remove the 90% that you don't use leaving behind the 10% you actively use

you now use 100% of what's left of your brain

>> No.9994789

>>9994775
>the NPC becomes enraged

>> No.9994790

>>9994783
...Which, I might add, is the kind of acontextual, sensory-deprived thinking the NPC meme crowd think is perfect.

>> No.9994795

>>9994789
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how utterly distinct I am.

>> No.9994812

>>9994789
>>9994783
>>9994769
its not even good have internal monolegue, I have ocd and spent most of my childhood discussing theology and ethics with a second voice on my head that didn't let me alone.

>> No.9994816

>>9994812
At least you don't need friends

>> No.9994822

>>9994775
>I don't really care about this NPC meme because I think verbal thinking is a REDUCTION of what the human brain can really do to the limits of language.
This is true and the people pushing the meme know it just as well, and this is why I hate the meme and fuck everyone who isn't part of the scheme but is tolerating it

>> No.9994835

>>9994812
How is it a bad thing? Who do you think many ancient philosophers published their work as a dialogue? How can you even have a solid viewpoint without imagining what could other people think about that?

>> No.9994845

>>9994822
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pristine-inner-experience/201110/not-everyone-conducts-inner-speech

>Consider inner speech. Subject experienced themselves as innerly talking to themselves in 26% of all samples, but there were large individual differences: some subjects never experienced inner speech; other subjects experienced inner speech in as many as 75% of their samples. The median percentage across subjects was 20%.
Explain this then. It says 20% of all subjects don't think with words right?

>> No.9994846

>>9994631
No, its more a function of translating your thoughts into a practical form(language) which you can share with others, and occasionally such form acting as a means of reflection on those thoughts themselves as if they were said by someone else. We are capable of thinking without subvocalization but in most cases its not intuitive and its hard to even do unless you're autistic or isolated from other people. Aside from self reflection your thoughts are meant to translate into coherent concepts others can understand, and even your self reflection is usually in a context relative to other people too.

>> No.9994885

>>9994845
could you clarify what you are asking me?

>> No.9994904

>>9994846
>We are capable of thinking without subvocalization but in most cases its not intuitive and its hard to do
One thing we can at least have learned from these threads is everyone thinks differently, so i won't say "no it's not hard" but i want you to consider the possibility that it might seem hard if you set out to do it pointedly, but actually it's happening a lot, and easily but you aren't noticing it because you don't remember it until you turn it into words. The same way that if I asked you to control your legs without thinking about it you would say that was hard, but you can walk around the room which is doing exactly that