/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9984863
He also told us he will cut space travel cost by 99% and produce 10.000 Model 3s a week. When will people learn this guy is a fraud?

>>9984863
>a technology that will ultimately allow 'anyone who wants superhuman cognition to have it.'
"Ultimately" is the key weasel word here. If Musk actually had such technology he wouldn't be going around accusing people of being pedophiles for no reason.

>>9984863
he never said that. He said they have been working hard and will show something off in a few months maybe that will push the envolope. He didn't say it would make you super intelligent.

>>9984863
>Are these claims credible?

>>9984869
you do know falcon 9 is like 1/3rd cost of next program right and already starting to completely dominate commercial launches (2 years book ahead schedule)

Tesla is also "a quarter away" from being profitable for some 5 years now, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

>>9984885
How ironic. Nikola Tesla never made any money either.

>>9984863
I've seen their facilities and how their technology works. They are not anywhere close to this. Right now it's like something you would see on Hackaday.

>>9984876
>1/3rd cost of next program

the absolute state of the soibois.

>>9984894
Go on

>>9984894
What can their technology do so far?

How long before Musk just flees the country with all his ill-gotten wealth?

>>9984863
So what, you can think faster? The only thing that matters is what you do with your 180+ IQ.

Some, like /sci/, keep the base drum and rhythm rolling.

Others, slam into it and never lift their heads until they elevate the entire subject with them.

>>9984902
>>9984908
I had to sign a bunch of NDAs, and they're a very small outfit so they would probably know it's me. What I will say is that >>9984870 is on the money. Their technology is an interesting improvement over the state of the art, but it's nowhere near what Musk is claiming. As it currently stands, you really really would not want this done to you, and you wouldn't get much benefit either.

>>9984890
Except for those few times where his projects were funded with millions of government dollars and he was kind of rich, until his tower was destroyed on the suspicion that the Germans were using it to spy on them. (I might have some info slightly incorrect here cause speaking from vague memory so feel free to correct, but my point stands)

>>9984863
It actually is better than what's out there, aka using inefficient electrodes on brain(eeg) or putting invasing brain plug/jack on the back/top of the head/etc(risky and costly).

Neuralink's paper was released a year or so ago wasn't it(cant find it on google because the amount of misinfo/pop-science around it is so shitty)? Instead of those earlier attempts, it would be cell-like lattice/structure that is grown inside the brain and interfaces with the brain directly.

>>9984938
>grown inside the brain
They split your skull open and use a big sewing machine. Not pleasant.

>>9984928
It's because the average journalist is 80 IQ and can't process what he is saying.

>I think a good future is AI and human brain interfaced together
>In a few months neuralink will release something cool that pushes things forward

Idiot 90 IQ people and journalists construe the two together and write articles
"Musk said super human intelligence cyborg technology is a month away and he will create the borg"

Literally every journalist wrote about this saying the "exciting thing to show off in a few months" was superhuman intelligence even though they are independent of each other.

How long could a brain detached from the body survive? Could you put it into some super-liquid that preserves it indefinetely, hook it up via neuralink with a robot, and basically live forever?

>>9984976
Journos cater to the mass of people. Thats how they survive.

>>9984978
>preserve the brain in superliquid
NO such material found yet.

Cryogenetics isn't there yet.

>>9984932
Tesla's tower was removed because it harnessed energy from the pyramids. The government didn't want the public to know the truth of electric universe.

>>9984984
I want to make AGI so bad just so I can ensure they survive forever. Just not in the happiest of states if you catch my drift.

>>9984863
He literal said that while he was high.

>>9984978
No because brain fail eventually.

>>9984863
How much more meme-elicious does this fucker have to get before you wise up?

Do you think the government and corporations want a population of super human geniuses, and that they'll allow such a technology to be developed and released to the public? Don't be so ridiculous.

>>9984976
I don't like Musk but yes, journalists are fucking scum and I wish people would start killing them.

>>9985050
You are so fucking stupid.

IT'S TIME
Keep rotting fleshies

>>9984869
>>9984870
>>9984871
I don't get why people hate on Elon Musk so much. The man is an absolute genius, and trying to improve the future of humanity. He has lofty, ambitious goals and isn't afraid to tell the world about them.

Instead of bashing the guy, people should show a lot more respect, and try to emulate his amazing qualities.

"But Musk is a weasel trying to trick us into buying his stuff". Ummm, no he isn't sweetie, nothing could be further from the truth. I'm amazed that he actually wants to help humanity with his endeavors and doesn't want to euthanize half the population.

>>9984863
he didn't officially claim that. He said they might be months away from making neural interface technology that is an order of magnitude better than other neural interfaces on the market. This is a pretty low goal considering the best neural interface on the market, the braingate2, was designed in the 1980s. The braingate 2 has 100 electrodes, and it would not be too hard to make a neural interface with 1000 electrodes. DARPA is trying to do even more and has a lofty goal of being able to read from 1 million neurons and write to one hundred thousand, far more than an order of magnitude like musk can probably deliver.

>>9985212
Agreed. The man landed on fucking Mars for fuck's sake. Now he's inventing super genius brains for all of us to use while we cruise through tunnels in our AI driven Teslas.

>>9985281
what is that object

Watching the podcast, this guy is pure autismo and I love it. Fuck the haters

>>9985212
>Ummm, no he isn't sweetie

>>9985305
It’s pretty easy to win internet arguments as long as you avoid arguing for retarded stuff.

NO YOU FUCKING RETARD, LEARN TO INTERPRET

He said he had something orders of magnitude better than currently available to show off in a couple of months

He was then asked what his ideal outcome is. The ideal outcome is what you describe in your post, not what he claims to have ready to show soon

>>9985298
Most of the "haters" are legit paid shills bought by big oil, oldspace and Tesla shorters to smear him. These people are about to lose a shitload of money. You can tell their posts fairly easily because it's usually just a vehement rant about subsidies and frauds, they will never acknowledge a single legitimate point you make and will pilpul, split hairs and outright lie until you stop interacting with them.

>>9985212
Actually he's just a rich nerd who internalized too much sci-fi, but tomato-tomato.

>>9985297
ur mom

15:30 in this video https://youtu.be/Ra3fv8gl6NE?t=15m27s

Joe Rogan: Where's Neuralink at right now?

Elon Musk: I think we'll have something interesting to announce in a few months that's at least an order of magnitude better than anything else. I think better than probably anyone thinks is possible.

16 minutes

Rogan: What's the idea behind it? What are you trying to accomplish? What's the best case senario?

Musk: We merge with AI where AI serves as a tertiary cognition layer...

17 mins 30 seconds

Joe Rogan: So instead of replacing us, it will radically enhance our abilities?

Musk: Yes. It will enable anyone who wants to have superhuman cognition. Anyone who wants. This is not a matter of earning power because your earning power would be vastly greater after you do it, so anyone who wants it... that's the theory.

Man, being on this podcast looks so exhausting for him.

Is he legit on the spectrum? So much is said about autism and its variants that I don't really know what symptoms to look for anymore.

These "haha" laughs he has, especially when Joe throws the idea of magnetic roads.

>>9985357
Yeah he is defs on the spectrum, and that's a good thing.

I hope not, being smarter than everyone is all I have

>>9985365
How the fuck will super computer brain interact with the topsy-Turvy autism synapses?

This shit is going to fail.

>Liberals buy Neuralink en-Masse
>They're not liberals anymore
whoah, wait a minute, IS THIS OK?

>>9985357
At times, if you only focus on what Joe is saying, it sounds like he's talking to a 12 years old kid. He's making sounds and exagerating his reaction because Elon his giving him so little to work with.

>>9985463
This is just Joe.

>>9984863
He literally did not say this, nor imply it.

>>9985428
Fuck off with your politics.

>>9984863
Has he been testing it on himself? He seems to be having a "Flowers for Algernon" thing, that might explain it.

>>9985297
If you had a Musk super-brain, you would know what it is.

>>9985212
>Instead of bashing the guy, people should show a lot more respect, and try to emulate his amazing qualities.
It is unironically brainlets with nothing to show for their wasted youths lashing out in jealousy.

and can someone tell me what the fuck the deal seems to be with Joe Rogan (getting banned from twitter etc)? Never watched his podcasts before but he seems like a normal guy that's genuinely interested in shit.

>>9985212
Nah, hes the kind of guy who helps because he wants the praise that he helped, not because he actually wants to help. He a narcistic maniac that snaps if anybody dares to critisize him. that is only the fourth worst thing about him. the third worst thing is the fact that the dude is a pathological liar, he always overvalues the shit he does. the second worst thing is his cleptomanic side, he steals ideas, puts names on them that sound like a cheap 90s toys for kids, and acts like he is the sole inventor. best example for this is vacuum-maglevs, a concept that is around since forever. takes that idea, calls it "hyperloop" and acts like he created that idea. but by far the worst thing about him are his uber-annoying, cultish followers, that can be easily summoned by posting anywhere on the internet a even ever so slightly critique of elon or any of his companies.

i mean, he probably has an iq of >150 and an amazing work ethic. but he is also a lying, self-absorbed, idea-stealing cunt with one of the most annoying fan bases there are.

>>9985549
Rogan didn't get benned from twitter. I'm pretty sure you confused him with Alex Jones.

>>9985565
You're a moron

>>9985491
see here >>9985348

>>9984876
how many shekels is Musk paying for shills these days?

>>9985679
it's time to go back, reddo

>>9985679
the sad truth is that there will always be sycophants who will do it >for free

>>9985565
bzzzzzzzt, oh shit son you set the shill alarm off

>>9985679
How many shekels are you getting paid to help short TSLA stocks?

>>9984863
>Are these claims credible?

>>9984863
>Musk claims that his brain-computer interface company, Neuralink, is only 'months' away from announcing a technology that will ultimately allow 'anyone who wants superhuman cognition to have it.'
No, he absolutely didn't. Are you a liar or just a retard who can't parse meaning from speech?

>>9985766
He said, he has some announcements in the coming months.

>>9985641
Yeah, he still never said that.
He said he'd have "something interesting in a few months." And he said in answer to what he was hoping to eventually do with Neuralink as a best case scenario was to facilitate "superhuman cognition." The two aren't the same, he never once said the interesting thing he's going to potentially have available in a few months is a means for "superhuman cognition" or that he was going to reach the ultimate best case scenario end goal for Neuralink in a few months. "Having something interesting" is pretty fucking far from "completing all work worth doing towards the general concept of this business venture." If you have an analyst who tells you they're going to have something interesting to report on to you at your next meeting, you would be a pretty retarded boss to assume he meant to imply he'll have completed everything your business was potentially going to work towards ever by the time of that next meeting.

>>9985771
Yes, see here:
>>9985775
That's not the same thing to what OP is claiming. Not even close. Which is why I'm not sure whether OP is lying intentionally or just retarded.

>>9985775
OP doesn't seem to be claiming that whatever is announced in a few months (according to Musk) will itself allow 'superhuman cognition', but that it will ultimately lead to that, much like the first iphone ultimately led to the latest iphone and future iphones.

>>9985775
>>9985779
That's wrong though.

He didn't say "best case scenario" of super cognition. He said the bandwidth(from neuralace) will allow instant access to super human cognition. Not "best case" but rather actual case. He also said smartphones and computers already do that to some limited extend but due to the bandwidth limit between the smartphone/brain, even that's only a limited superhuman capability. So a neuralace thats directly hooked to the brain will not "at best case" give someone a superhuman cognition, but a sure thing superhuman cognition.

>>9985782
He didn't say anything about his "interesting" announcement being for a technology leading to superhuman cognition. Those were two different topics. His interesting announcement is something he said nothing specific about, we don't even know that it's going to be an announcement for a "technology" at all. It might be a new technique for better accomplishing some task they're working on for example. The superhuman cognition thing was the end game for his entire long term business venture.

>>9984863
>anything like this will ever be available to the gen pop

lol & lol & lol & lol & lol & lol

>>9985793
There's a pretty big difference between the "superhuman cognition" of a smartphone or computer aided human vs. the "superhuman cognition" end game of his business plan. He specifically mentioned for example that the latter is something everyone would be able to obtain because the gain in cognitive performance would guarantee you could earn large amounts of money exceeding whatever the technology's cost would be. Buying a smartphone doesn't do anything like that for the general public today.

>>9985794
>>9985803
And to add to this, that's part of why it's a best case scenario and not a guaranteed actual scenario. You could easily conceive of a brain interface technology that *isn't* so effective at enhancing cognition as to allow you to earn many times its cost after using it through use of your newly enhanced brain.

>>9985803
it does to a limited degree it has just been limited to buisinesses (as poeple trade their time for money rather than productivity), you can see the same thing with calculators and programs that perform tasks every buisiness has a computer capable of doing this because you're able to earn much more money than what the technology costs. Try doing the same thing without being aided without a computer and you'll be left in the dust as a buisiness.

>>9984863
He never said that. Rogan asked him whats his best case scenario and that's what he answered. It doesn't mean it's what we get.

>>9985808
He's talking about any random person purchasing this best case scenario product and being guaranteed the ability to suddenly earn many times more than the price they just paid for it. That's very different from smartphones and computers which could be used potentially to increase your earning power but are absolutely not a guarantee you'll be making more money post-purchase. In fact I'm pretty sure the vast majority of everyday people who buy a phone or computer nowadays do not see an income increase attributable to their purchase. Your calculator example is interesting because it shows how once a technology like that is widely available the value of it to your earning power drops to nothing. Nobody I know of starts earning more money because they bought a calculator, mostly for the reason that it's a ridiculously abundant commodity now. It doesn't give you any sort of special edge over anyone else, even a homeless guy could stumble into a public library and use a calculator program on one of the computers there.

>>9985794

Rogan asked him 'What's the idea behind it? What are you trying to accomplish? What's the best case scenario?'

The question about the 'best case scenario' clearly refers to 'the best case scenario relating to your efforts in this area'. The conversation at that point is about what he's doing. He's not suddenly swining to 'the best case scenario for humanity, regardless of what you're involved in'.

>>9985576
Holy brainfart, yes my bad

>>9985732
saved

>>9985732
> are these claims edible?

Joe Rogaine is a shill for the globalists

>>9985873
>behind it
"It" is Neuralink in general, not the interesting thing he's possibly announcing in a few months. He never implied he was going to do anything close to approaching or developing a technology that would "ultimately allow" approaching the best case scenario long term objectives of his entire business engine in a few months.

>>9985803
>the "superhuman cognition" end game of his business plan
That's merely a starting point, the removal of the bandwidth problem speeds up information immensely with the brain augmentation but thats not the end game. He actually did extrapolate what his end game was, that is uploading the mind after death and the removal of boundary between the digital and analog.

Do we really need 50 of these threads?

>>9984928
you all are larp pieces of shit. usc already made a device that increases working memory substantially. perhaps you lot should be the first to get such a device.

>>9984863
>Are these claims credible?
time will tell.
>what are the implications for scientific progress and society writ large?
everyone becomes Tesla or everyone who has it will unknowingly become a literal human drone.

>>9985212
hes not a genius. he's a brand that has enough money to buy whatever job specialty he needs to facilitate his 2am ideas

>>9985795
c'mon man it's just - imagine you can hear audio and see video without your eyes and ears. That's all it does. Does that make you take in the meaning faster? No. Can you learn faster? No. It's fucking entertainment only

>>9984978
Well you have to simulate the membrane which separates the brain from the rest of the body, it must be durable enough to not fall to pieces when the brain gets shaken about but also sufficiently permeable to allow blood or a blood analogue nutrient solution to deliver oxygen and nutrients necessary for the brain's survival. Presuming you can do it flawlessly, the brain will survive as long as it would inside of a normal body, maybe a little longer since you might be able to filter out poisons and environmental contaminants more aggressively, but the real hurdle is how do you get a brain to regenerate it's cells but not lose it's memory in the process. Even if you can find a way to induce a brain to regenerate itself, it's memory neurons will be overwritten leading to loss of the memories and connections which make people individuals, you would also need to develop brain/machine interfaces sufficiently advanced to expand the brain's memory beyond it's long term memory neurons, such that it can afford to lose them and still have all of it's memories on call, at this point though if you can develop a storage and recall computer powerful enough and flexible enough to run in tandem with an organic brain and contain a conscious mind, it would be more efficient to simply migrate the consciousness over to the fully synthetic construct and allow the brain to die.

>>9986501
>migrate the consciousness
god i hate comp-neuro chimera autism so much

>>9985565
So much projection. Not everyone is a vile piece of shit such as yourself.

>>9984976
>It's because the average journalist is 80 IQ and can't process what he is saying.
How naive of you.
the average journalist is probably smarter than you, and fully aware of what he's doing.
(Which is making money, not producing reliable news.)

I think Halo is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills aleins and doesnt afraid of anything

>>9987214
who tf is that, he look like doom slaya

>>9986289
A smart person with such technology would be hundreds of times more intelligent just off the increased memory alone, let alone if they could run programs to help them do specific tasks.
I could just run the "chess engine" app in my head while playing a game and the correct squares would "light up" in my eyes and I'd play at the level of a super AI, as an example. When doing math, I would immediately see every integral, every sum, every step without needing to think about it. When learning a new task, my memory would be hundreds of times better and as such, I would learn much faster. I would have absolute pitch.

>>9984869
You will never accomplish 0.00001% of what Musk has accomplished, even if you had 10,000 lifetimes.

>>9984863
It’s likely just an interface method. He spent that entire part of the interview talking about the bandwidth limitations of keyboards and fingers. And how we are already cyborgs due to our relationship with our phones. His company probably just developed a brain to computer interface that doesnt require physical interaction with an input device. We have had this technology for a while now, but it was limited to quadriplegics moving a computer mouse with thought. Musks company likely just improved this existing technology. $50 says im right.

>>9985064
>Something similar happened with the spread of computers and wide use of the internet, what makes you think such kind of a revolution won't happen again?
Governments and societies in general have probably much more to gain than to lose.

>>9986289
>dumb shitters can only use it for social entertainment

>ITT retards who don't understand how Musk makes money:

>claims to have something revolutionary
>uses viral marketing to make everyone believe he really does
>eventually releases something that is merely a slight improvement over the current state
>marketing makes people believe he truly created something incredible even though what he is selling is nothing of the sort
Just look at Tesla and Autopilot. My bet is they have something similar to Siri/Echo/Alexa but maybe they have some brain-computer interface to it, but the vocabulary would be extremely limited.

>>9987490
The entire point of Elons response was about the limited bandwidth of keyboards. Neuralink will release something that outperforms a keyboard. Whatever it is, im not sure, but you can rest assured that it will outperform a keyboard.

>>9984870
That's because you're a mega brainlet compared to his synthetic brain

>>9985212
There is no real reason to hate the guy, but he isn't an autist. On a personal level he strikes me as a huge unironic autist and that Joe Rogan interview just confirmed that honestly.

>>9987556
I'd imagine anything working now is VR/Haptic based.

Just a really fucking good VR interface would be a huge improvement for a lot of fields (3d art, art, programming).

3D lets you see lots of more information.

>>9985357
As you can see from the picture there is a lot of overlap between geniuses and spergs but I think Elon is more on the genius side. Although I heard that he wanted to build a business and went to some entrepreneur place and he was just hanging around and didn't know who to interact with and decided to just build a business himself, that's kind of spergy. Also incoherent speaking and a rather big disconnect between him and Joe, but that might be a 30 IQ communication gap rather than an theory of mind gap. Funny how Gates, the Zucc and Elon are all suspected to be on the spectrum and all of them are the top CEO's. Mild autism ftw.

>>9985795
>implying the elites will put immature technology in their bodies

nah. military first, then cheap-o mass produced versions to the masses to field test.

>>9984863
>Musk claims that his brain-computer interface company, Neuralink, is only 'months' away from announcing a technology that will ultimately allow 'anyone who wants superhuman cognition to have it.'

Must still be Beta testing it.

>>9987348
Muskbro detected. What exactly has he accomplished, besides PayPal and pumping out cheap, defective cars, all the while making an ass of himself and disappointing investors?

>>9986241
if i had the money and brain of elon musk, i would make it my mission to improve humanity by erradicating people like you from the face of the earth.

Thanus was right.

>>9985050
He didn't even inhale.

>>9985319
Imagine being so paranoid and brainwashed you believe this.

I shit on Tesla without being paid a single cent for it.

>>9984976
>All this talk of interfaces
>Reveal date given
>People, media lose their fucking mind
>Big day
>"The bandwidth between your mind and the everlearning internet just got upgraded"
>"The new, sleek and optimized...
> ...mechanical keyboard"
The man's an engineer not a wizard. I can garuntee the product will be complex enough for retards to drool over, but ultimately just an improvement on an existing system

>>9985600
>>9986834

sucking musk dick that much?

>>9989179
start with yourself

>>9984890
I don't think that's irony. If Tesla made no money, it would be ironic if a product named after him did make money.

>>9987348
Well so did Adolf Hitler tbqhwy but that doesnt mean I would want to be Adolf Hitler.

>>9986834
Well, I, for one, never called anyone a pedophile on twitter.

>>9984890
>amerimutt not knowing what irony is

>>9989607
But have you ever done anything that was anyway relevant?

>>9989798
Yes I did, I'm a millionaire at 27. And you?

>>9985212
Agree, but please dont use sweetie it makes the whole argument look like it was made by a retarded soccer mom from facebook

>>9985212
t. reddit

>>9989826
lol, off yourself incel

>>9989931
Why did you even ask the question if "no" is the only answer you are going to accept as truthful? I am, in fact, a millionaire (to be more precise: multi-millionaire). But I dont think thats a required qualification to identify a fraud, like Elon Musk.

>>9989826
Congrats, you accomplished 0.1% of what Musk did. Now fuck off.

>>9989990
At the moment. If Tesla goes bankrupt, that's a different story.

>>9989995
Tesla aint going bankrupt son, it has half of electric car market, which is the future of transportation. Anyway, Tesla can go up in flames and Musk will still be one of the most accomplished entrepreneurs and engineers due to SpaceX alone.

>>9985732
I like this picture.

>>9990014
Inb4 BFR becomes an utter fail and BO takes the market with their New Glenn lel

>>9984863
kek

>>9985348
Why is Elon so focused on staying human, with AI augmentation? I'd like to become superhuman and leave my inefficient and uncontrollable meat brain behind.

>>9987577
At least I'm not a pedophile like you.

>>9990054
Watch the video.

>>9989963
>Why did you even ask the question
1) I asked the question but you responded to someone else's comment.

2) Even if what you say was true and you are a "millionaire (to be more precise: multi-millionaire)", I do not consider that as an accomplishment. Worse than that. I would consider you to be just a fucking leach. There are too many rich people in the world with the only goal of accumulating wealth ad infinitum and too few guys like Musk that actually try to make a difference. If he only wanted to screw people over, he would go into banking or gayPhones, instead taking the risks of creating car and rocket manufactures.
The answer "I'm a milionaire" was actually the
worst you could pick, since it shows where your focus is.

>>9990054
> I'd like to become superhuman and leave my inefficient and uncontrollable meat brain behind.
You can not really tell now what you would want to do after becoming a superhuman.
(but Musk knows)

>>9990150
>snakeoil musk
>not trying to screw people over

nice try shill

>>9984863
They could be credible if he partnered with a company on par with Boston Dynamics but I doubt that he is doing anything more than shitposting at this point.

>>9984863
Literally not what he said

>>9985344
>Tomato-Tomato
How many heard it right the first time?

>>9989995
Elon was a millionaire with zip2 (liquid cash) and then went on to make even more money off paypal.

>>9990099
I did. He thinks that most people will choose to remain human. I've always been confused by the contrast between his belief and interest in the progress of technology, and his insistence that we need to preserve humanity rather than becoming something else.

>>9990858
It is a safeguard. We do not know if the AI will be well aligned with our interests necessarily. Once we know that, there would be no problem leaving humanity behind. We either go extinct or become something else.

>>9990165
>Do you think he's paying me?

>>9985212
He pays smart people to do what he wants.

>>9989990
>he have money he big brains!

Your retarded ilk are the reason why we have an anti-science dipshit as president.

>>9985732

is dis wut dey call EL MEME

>>9987342
sounds more like your brain would atrophy in such a situation, lol

>>9984863
based space retard

>>9984863
No but it does raise the question when is anything meaningful going to happen in science? I'm not a scientist of any variety myself, but now that I think about it, nothing scientific has benefited my life in any way. Oh, I'm not interested in yours. I'm just speaking for myself. You can try and access my anecdotal memory and say "yes it has!" but you're not going to be able to. It helps keep me at the same level as everybody else, but if we were all equally disadvantaged my life wouldn't be any worse. I can only count the benefits. Again, this is just for myself. If I get a major disease I'll report differently later. My point is a spaceship to Mars NOW or a neuronal enhancer NOW or a super fast highway to wherever I wanted NOW would be splendid. By now I mean within a tangible time span, but it seems like everything is "going to be 9000 years bro lmao". Like who cares and why is it always brought up that the sun is going out in x Million years? it's all irrelevant anyway unless you're just interested in the theoretical nature of the sun.

>>9984998
I heard it's because Tesla was misinforming investors of what he intended to do with the tower... they say history has a way of repeating itself

>>9985212
I don’t get musk haters but ever more so don’t understand musk cultists

>>9991946
You sound very selfish.

>>9985982
underrated

>>9987214
That's a big gun.

>>9991946
The point of brining up whether or not humanity can survive enormous cataclysms in the future informs what we do in the present. It tells us whether it's worth it to put effort into anything NOW or if we should lie down and die NOW because we already know we won't be able to overcome existential threats. Some of which could be waaaaay closer around the corner, but you can't even know what, because we can't see around corners. The point is, that realization, that you don't know when something huge might blindside us should give you pause, and more than that, it should light a fire under your ass.

>>9985317
Hi elon

>>9991966
So what selfish people are irrelevant? Go fuck yourself. You don't know what I do for other people in a day, faggot.
>>9991971
5 million years is practically eternity.

>>9991969
4u

>>9985565
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Elon Musk. The genius is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of his ideas will go over a typical new fag's head. There's also Musk's optimistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his products. His personal philosophy draws heavily from Popular Mechanics' literature, for instance. His followers understand this stuff. They have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of his ideas, to realize that they're not just propitious - they are truly brilliant. As a consequence, people who dislike Elon truly are idiots. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Musk's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

>>9986501
You are your brain. If it dies so do you. What comes after is not you, but a mere copy of you. Fucking pleb. Transhumanism is the future, not literally becoming a fucking computer you absolute turdbrain moron

>>9989179
99+% of People are dumber than him. I think you should Focus on them first

>>9992217
Stop. With your smug elitism you're actually giving a bad name to your cause. No wonder Elon's fans are so disliked. I like the guy too but cult followings have the tendency to be overwhelmed by idiots, no matter what they follow.

>>9992231
Here's your (you). This you is platform independent like every other you. Yous are programs that run on rigs called brains. If a computer gets destroyed, it's program gets destroyed too. Same is with a brain. But that does not mean you can not run a YOU program together with a simulation of your brain as a virtual machine if you have a more advanced hardware.

>>9984863
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>>9989277
I bet you hate Donald Trump too, huh?

>>9992466
You ate the pasta, newsoy.

>5 Fucking threads with the exact same image in the catalog
>Hurr Elon buys paid shills
>Despite every fucking thread about him being filled with post after post of the same diatribe that all read like they came from the same script
>Don't be delusional anon there are no big oil or oldspace shills

>>9991752
Mate every fucking president for a long time now is anti science. If you are spending trillions of dollars bombing people who pose no threat to your country instead of spending a significant portion of that on science, then clearly they don't give a fuck.

>>9985212
Elon is an easy target and traders want to manipulate the stock

>>9987752
"Asperger's" is a meme that needs to die.

>>9987449
And why do you think the internet we once knew is already dead?

>>9984976
>>9987752

>>9984928
What does it take to get hired there?

>>9985795
>implying they would ever pass up the opportunity to backdoor your fucking brain