/sci/ - Science & Math

Can someone please explain the BIO hatred to me?

This is my life and I'm nothing special and have a BIO degree

>graduated with average GPA from top 1 school at 13
>first job paying $950k at pfizer
>second job paying $14000k at google 3 minutes later
>started own company at 2
>sold company at -5 for 3.33*10^600
>currently a semi-retired fag making $2*root(-1) for literally licking the assholes of senior biologists

>>9963414
christ if all that actually happened you wouldn't be in this god-forsaken place.

>>9963414
>CS
not science or math

>>9963414
>his is my life and I'm nothing special and have a CS degree
>top 10
do you realize how many colleges there are in the us? do you realize how low the acceptance rates are for top 10 schools? do you realize that not everyone applies to top 10 schools, and if they did the acceptance rates would be a small fraction of a percent?

C"S" is just a bunch of loose fitting programs related to computers all jammed into one department.

You can argue the pure theory part of computer science belongs in a math program.

The rest of the CS programs, which contain the majority of brainlets, have no business being in a serious science program.

Programming languages, app design, etc should all be taught in junior college or vocation schools.

The fact you can get college credit for writing a for loop in Python is astounding to me.

>>9963430
Honestly you college credit for less impressive feats these days. I audited a business class where the professor spent the first half an hour of class explaining how to use a calculator

>>9963495
>get
The pain of being a phone poster

>>9963414
>>graduated with average GPA from top 10 school at 22
>>first job paying $95k at microsoft
>>second job paying $140k at google 3 years later
>>started own company at 28
>>sold company at 31 for $3 mil
>>currently a semi-retired consultant making $250k for literally doing nothing

Nobody gives a shit about your life and this has nothing to do with the educational merit of a CS degree.

>>9963414
>Can someone please explain the CS hatred to me?
Because it's by far the least math intensive field of STEM, so it tends to attract brainlets.

>>9963538
To be fair CSfags use more math than biofags

>>9963538
Depends. You can de-memeify your education either by going to a top school or double majoring in math. I dunno why people are complaining about app and webdev classes; they don't even offer that at my uni. Then again, mine is a research school for CS and math.

>>9963414
what was your business in? Most programmers will stay that way until they die, you need a business-oriented mindset, to begin with to do anything, cs just gives you access to the greatest means of production invented.

>>9963414
Most it is memes. Most people believe the memes though. The problem is that you can't do a proper defense without the blue man talking about mergesort coming out. Basically they pigeonhole as either taking easier math or webdev. Of course, at a good school, you'll usually just be taking math courses and CS stuff like graphics and OS.

>>9963414
Most it is memes. Most people believe the memes though. The problem is that you can't do a proper defense without the blue man talking about mergesort coming out. Basically they pigeonhole as either taking easier math or webdev. Of course, at a good school, you'll usually just be taking math courses and CS stuff like graphics and OS, and graduate school CS theory does not fuck around

No one person is "special", even if you have some special talent. If you think this about yourself, life will teach you humility one day. It's not a question of if but when.

>>9963558
>wax on
>wax off

>>9963414
>$250k for literally doing nothing
That's what most people who make $250k do.

>>9963414
I've seen math and CS double majors do engineering masters and get hired at pretty top notch places. The masters is becoming an increasingly necessary thing in engineering since super specialization is setting in (anyone can learn how to process a signal; not everyone can set up distributed computation over embedded systems) , so it's good on them for getting a theoretical basis in undergrad and specializing in grad

The real answer is just to do what your heart tells you to do and do it well enough that you can spin it into income

>>9963424
>Programming languages, app design
I'm not even a CS kid, but I've never heard of these in a CS department. Stop making things up as if you ever went to school or know anything about CS.

>>9963647
>Programming languages
The only thing my school that was close to this was the primer to the compilers class, which was regex, constructing grammars and proving that they're LL(n), LR(n), etc., using the Pumping Lemma, deciding loop automation based by looking at affine space, etc. I wouldn't say it was super hard (though the compilers course tore me a new asshole), but it was definitely a theory/proof based course.

>>9963658
I loved that class, it was really cool and indeed a proof based course. Basically all of our homework was just proofs.

>>9963414
>CSlet so money obsessed he thinks degrees should be valued only for how much they allow you to earn
This is why we have look down upon CS. No one does it because they're actually interested. They're all just in it for the money. 90% of computer science courses would be better described as computer engineering.

>>9963873
>No one does it because they're actually interested
Tell that to all the faculty doing theory research. Also, when will this CE meme die. CS isn't about learning languages, but it's not really about microprocessors either. CR people take data structures, a systems course, and one compiler course and suddenly think they've tackled all of CS

>>9963875
*CE people
Fuck dude, I'm in EECS, but this posturing engineering majors do is fucking retarded.

>>9963414
start smokin weed.

>>9963538
>Because it's by far the least math intensive field of STEM

>>9963414
The hatred of CS is simply based on the fact that for some reason "Computer Science" has nowadays become synonymous with "programming" in the minds of laymen. And since programming is something any kid with normal intelligence could learn in their own time, then CS must be trivial too.

t. CS PhD student

>>9963938
This is only true at the elementary school level. Journal papers that report research in CS contain no mention of programming.

>>9963495
>I audited a business class where the professor spent the first half an hour of class explaining how to use a calculator

kek'd

It was probably for basic algebra shit too I bet.

>>9964259
jesus

>>9963420
A computer program is isomorphic to a proof, how is CS not math?

>>9963540
But at least BIO is more interesting than writing some shitty code. Also EE & Bio dual major can get you in some awesome jobs related to bioelectronics

>>9963414
It's hatred for the people who go into CS just to have an easy life doing webdev.

>>9963414

If you're that successful, what are you doing on this board?

>>9963414
>Can someone please explain the CS hatred to me?
The hardest math CS majors know is Calc II

>>9964662
It's more that the basic CS major doesn't need to learn a lot of math. You have to go out of your way to do "proper" CS at most schools. My issue is that I wish they pushed more natural science (namely physics) and some more mathematics into it, but at a good to great school, the latter is enforced. I had to take calculus 1-3, linear algebra, intro to proofs, and data structures for admission into the major

they think they're important and so smart for writting shitty code

>>9965514
This also applies to every engineer who thinks they're hot shit for a matlab function and think they got it all figured out

>>9963569
the only person here who understands

>>9965578
oh fuck thats me