/sci/ - Science & Math

gb2 /b/.

>>996160
Liberal? Liberal is not a fucking political ideology, it is an economy system.

socialist here.

bring it on, /sci/

>>996168
Liberal isn't an system of anything, it's just a convenient label that has no meaning, or different meaning to pretty much everyone who uses it.

>>996168
way to get it backwards faggot

>>996179
>>996177
Originally it is. Read Adam Smith.

As far as I'm concerned capitalism is a necessary evil
If you're proud of capitalism you should look around and see the state this country is in

>>996168
>Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis, "of freedom"[1]) is the belief in the importance of liberty and equality.[2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but most liberals support such fundamental ideas as constitutions, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, free trade, secularism, and the market economy

>>996201
But it lives daily, no future plans work out with capitalistic markets. Population grows, industry and production exponentially grows then what? When the resources inevitably dries out? Although i'm perfectly OK with this since it's not gonna happen in my lifetime, if you look morally, this seems a little unfair to future generations.

>>996177
Hey look! An American who thinks that just because his country misuses the word, that the word itself lost its meaning everywhere.

>>996215
Yeah you keep telling yourself that, surely image reactions and greentext make you righter.

>>996219
Yeah I was implying that capitalism is not something to be proud
Its better than being under the regime of an asshole dictator though

>>996215
Liberalism is also about considering everyone who disagrees with you a fascist, and telling everyone else what they can or can't do, as well as promoting institutionalized racism and sexism, etc. It's basically communism lol.

>>996231
>Yeah you keep telling yourself that, surely image reactions and greentext make you righter.
>make you righter
>righter
More like lefter

>>996255
>Liberalism is also about considering everyone who disagrees with you a fascist
>If you're a liberal you're a dirty commie
boy this thread just keeps getting better and better

>>996255

>>996219
False dichotomy.
Somehow equating non-capitalism to soviet russia, makes you look like a fucking idiot.

>>996201
>Implying that capitalism caused 'the state this country is in'
America hasn't been 'capitalist' for some time now.

>>996255
>and telling everyone else what they can or can't do
>human rights
>constitutions

>>996284
It did cause the state we're in you dense motherfucker
The banks shoved dildos up our asses and we all took it

>>996128

>implying communism had anything to do with the tiananmen square massacre

whatthefuckamireading.jpg

>>996295
>America hasn't been 'capitalist' for some time now.

>>996300
>No true scotsman

FUCK

/new/ is leaking.

>>996296
>Implying communists didn't brutally put down a peaceful opposition protest at Tiananmen square.

>>996300
Fine I'll bite
When was the last time America was capitalist

>>996282
Excuse me wtf are you talking about? Either you mislinked or you are a fucking idiot.

>>996314
Socialism/=communism

>>996310
>implying Tiananmen square wasn't about people supporting the government and just wanting the government to purge the corruption more brutally.

>>996306
Before the 1930s, when FDR's disastrous socialist policies plunged America into a depression. Since then, the government grip has been loosened in the late 40s and the 80s, but it always keeps tightening.

>>996320
And who suggested that?

>>996325
>Implying that you are retarded.
Well, you're right about one thing.

>>996338
Okay, I see now.

>>996347
What, you think massive bailouts to corporations that are 'too big to fail' is the hallmark of a free market?

The only thing that pisses me off about socialism are the fucking bail outs
We need to let those motherfuckers sink and let in new entrepreneur who aren't incompetent assholes
I don't want to keep giving my money to those fucking thieves

The fuck is this shit? /new/ is that way.

>>996343
Okay, then what were the people protesting about?
Please don't say vague bullshit like "communism".

>>996338
>FDR's disastrous socialist policies plunged America into a depression

>this is what conservatives actually believe

>>996338
Ah, that rascal FDR, with his naughty polices starting the Great Depression 3 years before he took office.

>>996356
What, do you think a financial system where lenders can't afford to lend is the hallmark of a free market?
The bailouts and stimulus package saved us from a catastrophic depression.

>>996365
Overreaching government control, lack of popular representation and personal freedom, poor economic situation. Communism, basically.

moot...actually, don't kill /new/. I would hate for those fuckers to immigrate here.

>>996338
Somehow you got it all wrong, but nice try.
Maybe you'll say next that the great depression was just a great vacation.

What I'd like to know is why we have the federal reserve instead of a national bank

>>996382
>doesn't know what communism is
Go back to your corn farm.

>>996375
>3 years before he took office.
And kept it going well after he died. The economy didn't recover until Truman rolled back much of the new deal and loosened regulations.

>>996128

Addressing violence with violence on a supposedly intellectual forum.

>>996395
> addressing stupidity with violence
fixed

>>996395

>Implying violence isn't intellectual.

>>996378
>Free market means government control
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what 'free market' means.

>>996402
My only come back for that is derp
Deeeeerp

>>996393
Keep moving the goalposts.

See this pic of the GDP? Notice how it bounces up around 1932? That's exactly then FDR took power.

>>996395
No violence hurts people physically
We hurt people emotionally

>>996387
>doesn't know what communism is
Prove me wrong.

Don't reply to trolls without saging and reporting.

>>996424
gtfo you spineless snitch

>>996412
That's when the elections took place. He took office the next year, pushed the new deal the year after, and implemented it in the years following.

Boy, it's a good thing I'm a socialist, otherwise I might have to worry about getting slapped by random people.

Can someone post clear definitions of communism, socialism and liberalism in this bitch?

>>996434
Yes. And the GDP kept growing until 1945.

Saying that FDR caused the Great Depression is utter bullshit.

>>996446
Not really; there is no consistent definition. The best one can do is place them at the 'left' wing of the political spectrum.

>this thread

Reported.

>>996446
You can't get people to agree on anything, why would political terms be any different?

>>996460

They're still clearly distinct though.

>>996446
communism=asshole dictators
socialism=policians helping asshole business
liberalism=free gay marriage and abortions for everyone

>>996455
>Completely disregarding population growth, inflation, potential economic expansion lost, and even the source of that graph.

>>996446
Socialism is a general ideology based around egalitarianism and is "community oriented". Communism is an extreme variety of socialism.

Liberalism is a general ideology based around expanding individual liberties and freedoms, and is "individual oriented".

>>996467
Stuck up shit, loose shit and diarrhoea are all also distinct.
Your argument is invalid.

>>996414

>doesn't know about psychological violence

derp

>>996502

>Implying you can't define scatalogical variation.

>>996485
You're free to post proof that FDR caused the Great Depression. Your implications won't impress anybody.

>Report submitted! This window will close in 5 seconds...

>>996508
Come on, define where loose shit because diarrhoea.

>>996474
Because at least for communism and socialism someone provided original, explicit definitions of what they are.

/sci/ reclamation dept  

>>996524
You don't use 16th century vocabulary, now do you?
Why would political terms (which change even faster, like all jargon) be any different?

>>996524

I'd have to have more data to base my definition on, but I stuppose there's some gradient of firmness, as well as differences in the cause and health effects.

>>996507
hey if I could hurt people over the internet with real violence I would

/sci/ .
reclamation.
dept.
.
 

This thread is full of people who think that they understand politics because they listen to their dad bitching about things he doesn't agree with.

also, OP is a faggot

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>>996619
Yeah cause we're all 12 year olds
derp

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>>996642
Exactly

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