/sci/ - Science & Math

>stub toe
>can't tell if it's broken without an x-ray
fugging annoying

>>9923084
isn't the treatment the same either way

>>9923091
yeah but i want to know, you know?

What are your thoughts on sex reassignment surgery? Is it ethical?

why are doctors so bad at making new threads

Today I learned in Pharmacology that most Doctors simply don't know what the fuck they're doing regarding antibiotics.

>>9923461
it's not limited to antibiotics friend

>>9923340
What are your thoughts on /pol/bait? Is it ethical?

>prefer nursing model to medical model (no homo)
>going to my DNP and PHD to do clinic work and nursing research
>get told i shouldn't doubt myself and that i'm good enough for medical school
I fucking hate that meme. if i wanted to be a physician, i would fucking go be one.

anyone else get this? Like even in specialization based medicine? I've had so many people in the field, including mid levels talk down to me for my choices.

>>9923340
Is this person for real? First off, terrible story if so, I feel sorry for them. Second, they don't really sound mentally stable

>>9923340
>do no harm
>mutilate people for money
really makes you think

>>9923553
>nursing research
That's what they call cleaning asses now?

>>9923637
>implying nurses even do that now a days
we hire niggers for unskilled labor in nursing now anon.

if you're being unironic, nursing research is research following the nursing model, examples being findings that it is to the detriment of a family to have certain alarms go off in peds and neonatal wards, spead of infection between paper towels and air blowers, and even the best ways to educate patients. it's expanding as funding on average is growing, they tend to complement medical and bioengineering research very well.

They're interesting reads

>>9923072
A nearby school offers a degree in "balneo-physio-kintetotherapy & recovery". This seems like an interesting branch of medicine to me, considering the fact that I had to do lots of recovery in my childhood and teens for my locomotory issues. I'd love to help people in the same situation. Is it a meme degree?

I'm about to get my doctorate of nursing practice, had my boss say he'll fired me if I change my prefix for Mr. to Dr

what do?

>>9923553
dude, be you. physicians can be assholes who think they're the only ones educated on anything sometimes. There are good ones and bad ones like nurses. i say that married to one of the good ones.

>>9923072
>antivaccine shilling
Uh huh, because anti-vaxxers make billions of dollars from telling people not to vaccinate.

>>9924212
No, they make it from selling fake vaccines (just when you thought china couldn't get any worse)

>>9924212
retard

>>9924442
http://vaccineinfo.net/issues/conflictofinterest/conflicts_of_interest.shtml
multiple conflicts of interest
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/merck-created-hit-list-to-destroy-neutralize-or-discredit-dissenting-doctors/
>According to The Australian, Merck emails from 1999 showed company execs complaining about doctors who disliked using Vioxx. One email said: We may need to seek them out and destroy them where they live ...
same company that killed 50k+ people and paid over 3 billion dollars makes your vaccines and tried to silence doctors
http://www.aapsonline.org/vaccines/cdcfdaexperts.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlxdWfTLHH0
whistle blowed showing a relation to autism and the mmr vaccine that was suppressed by the CDC, pure coincidence.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2908388/
>Twenty epidemiologic studies have shown that neither thimerosal nor MMR vaccine causes autism.
They looked at thimerosol and mmr and called it a day, ignoring the fact children are given dozens of vaccines and several other toxic ingredients are in them.
>No studies have compared the incidence of autism in vaccinated, unvaccinated, or alternatively vaccinated children
https://youtu.be/oT6ABaWN3gA
No vax vs unvaxxed, they never verified Poul Thornsen's studies even though he is now a criminal.
https://youtu.be/ajyc1gFU_mw
Thimerosol never tested on humans since 1929
http://www.pharmabiz.com/NewsDetails.aspx?aid=109896&sid=1
They want to remove blame from vaccines in post marketing data, where vaccines are not tested on pregnant women, cancer patients, people with chronic illnesses like asthma and at risk for heart disease, these people have never had testing for an adverse reaction to vaccines.
HHS failed to send vaccine safety reports to congress for 30+ years, compromising the safety and trust that they were doing their jobs and adhering to the promise they made upon receiving immunity from liability, essentially getting a free ride. Pic related.

>>9924490
they turn the freaking frogs gay!

>>9923072
Is it true that a very small subset of you really do know everything about every medical specialty? I've heard a few stories about that, but never got confirmation.

hair removal between butt cheeks via laser, good idea after anal fistula? please advise, im in need of directions

what's the most useful medical definition of alcoholism

Should I stay in California if I'm getting into radiology or should I consider out of state for post-grad?

im about to start my sophomore year at a mid-tier UC school here in California. recently became interested in medicine. im an econ major tho, have 0 background in the natural sciences basically. should i even try? my gpa isnt that good either which doesnt help. what if i take the MCAT and score well? genuinely have enjoyed what exposure ive had to it tho, taking my first modern biology class this quarter.

>>9925507
try to fulfill the prerequisites and apply to med school**

>>9923072
Isolating variables here... what if child psychology and the needle vector? asking a question is the first step in the scientific method.

Medicine is not a science.

>>9925809
So pharmaceutical.... medicine of coarse, not pharmeceutical science, pharmaceutical medicine.... syntax meta semantics.

>>9925158
stobp begin gay :DD

>>9924179
Well you should sure hope you're not going to be working at the same position if you get a DNP. Otherwise what's the point?

I had my appendix removed 3 days ago, and my doctor still won't let me eat anything for another day. I'm very hungry, is he right?

>>9926469
don't eat faggot

You'll probably be allowed to slurp some yoghurt soon.

Why are people such pussies when it comes to getting a CT and MRI? It's kinda comfy lying in my own little secluded tube, possibly even with a blanket.

>>9926514
Anxious about results, claustrophobic, shit can be loud.

>>9926514
i've fallen asleep in MRIs a few times but that's because i was just magnet meat for testing some stuff not getting diagnostic imaging

also yeah test anxiety, i got an echo once and my HR was way higher than normal

Did some jerks from blocks (pic related) with small weight 50kg almost two weeks ago
Had this pinch in my shoulder and decided to stop
Been going to gym every other day since and avoiding shoulder exercises
Today I picked up the empty barbell and did a few overhead presses but had to stop because of the pain. Oddly enough I was able to do 60kg snatches with no pain but didnt dare to go further
So what the fuck is it? My mobility is fine, the side of my shoulder hurts when rotating and tensing my muscles at the same time and only externally rotating.

>>9926784
Forgot pic

Any radiographers here? I finished Xray school not too long ago.

>>9924179
Calling yourself Dr Anon when you aren't a physician will probably cause some added confusion in a clinical environment.

>>9923461
med student with pharmacology bachelors here. I can tell you that everyone in my class has literally zero understanding of how any drugs work

Is CoQ10 a meme?

>>9927759
All supplements are a meme unless you have a confirmed deficiency

>>9923340
despite the shitty answers you've received so far, I actually think this is an interesting question. Wanting sexual reassignment surgery is not being, or, I believe, going to be, treated as mental illness of any kind. I think the topic is too politically charged to even do research on and suggest that it is an abnormal mental state. Obviously the only way that the surgery will be deemed unethical is if the mental state leading one to want it is deemed pathological.

>>9927739
> implying you learned anything at all in a bachelor's program

git PhD

>>9925809
this post was epic xD

https://youtu.be/zjgoSy5BYZY
So, this is the kind of high minded deep thinkers in whose hands we put our lives?

>tfw i have a big tittied dentist

they know what they're doing, right?

>>9927923
The slut got a 100 with no sleep and no studying. I'm not seeing the problem here.

>basically anyone who actually drinks probably has thiamine deficiency and maybe brain damage
>btw there's no tests and the symptoms are nonspecific and the vast majority of people aren't diagnosed until after death
>oh and the """"""classic triad""""" doesn't apply 90% of the time

simply epic

>>9927939

What's the deal with thiamine?

>Be paramedic
>Thiamine in our protocols
>Removed from protocols last year
>Doctors start using it to treat sepsis
>Thiamine back in protocols

Every other year we lose thiamine and then it comes back. Does it actually help treat sepsis or not?

>>9928000
I haven't researched that aspect, but i can tell you that giving glucose to someone with a B1 deficiency can do massive harm, and you can't really suffer ill effects from too much B1, so it's (or it should be) standard practice to co-administrate or give prior to glucose for anyone who might be B1 deficient (should just be mixed together honestly)

>>9927776
but I'm a neet who never sees the sun and never eats fish, should I buy it?

>>9928006

Here is the article: https://pilotonline.com/news/local/health/article_f0c6b24a-a5c7-522b-ac97-fe7b37bb0791.html

>but i can tell you that giving glucose to someone with a B1 deficiency can do massive harm, and you can't really suffer ill effects from too much B1, so it's (or it should be) standard practice to co-administrate or give prior to glucose for anyone who might be B1 deficient (should just be mixed together honestly)

Yeah, when I first became a medic the protocol was to administer b1 anytime you were unsure about a b1 deficiency plus hypoglycemia. Used to do b1 and d50 all the time. But B1 was taken away. Seems stupid to take it away from us.

But luckily now it's back in due to that article. (I'm in VA)

>>9926979
I'm in my 3rd year of medical imaging and radiation therapy.

>>9928009
No. You should probably take vitamin D though.

>>9923072
DO med student here. What is /sci/'s opinion of DO's and/or what questions would you like to ask one.

>>9929303
Why couldn't you get into a real medical school?

>>9929373
Define "real" medical school. My MCAT score sucked so I did a postbac program to get into medical school. I had the option of doing an MD or a DO program, I chose the latter because I wanted to learn OMM. For the record, I can do anything an MD can do as well as excel at treating someone with musculoskeletal issues. The only things that are "off limits" are highly specialized fields (such as radiation oncology) because there are few residencies and they have historically only taken MD's.

Also for anyone wondering about MCAT scores, they don't correlate to anything. Scored 76 percentile on USMLE step 1 and 96th percentile on COMLEX level 1.

Ok I'll ask: what's the gnarliest most disturbing shit you've ever seen, y'know for scientific purposes

>>9929392
Me personally? An infected gallbladder with abscess formations in the liver. It was utterly disgusting, the gallbladder tore open like a wet napkin when the surgeon grabbed it. I've seen other abscess drainage stuff as well and it is always gross. Seeing an asshole covered (and I mean covered) in hemorrhoids wasn't much better though.

I haven't seen anything too too bad, but I've heard horror stories about gangrene. I was told there was a patient so fat that she couldn't clean herself. Everyone on her floor kept smelling sewage and couldn't find out where it was coming from. Turns out she had flesh eating bacteria in her skin folds, and apparently as soon as they opened her up one of the residents vomited on the spot.

Bilateral arm and leg pain. Intermittent neck and upper back pain as well. Dull and achy in character. What do you think? Spinal origin? Systemic disease?

>>9929403
Interesting presentation, can you describe it more? When did it start? Is the arm/leg pain constant? Does it radiate from the neck/back? What makes it worse? What makes it better? Do you have any psychiatric history? Do you ever notice fevers? Unexplained weightloss? Weakness? Fatigue? Do you exercise?

>>9926784
>>9926787
If you're experiencing prolonged pain go see a doctor/physiotherapist meathead.
You're not going to get an accurate or useful diagnosis from fucking 4chan, and I'm honestly surprised you're stupid enough to try

>>9929410
The arm pain has been present for about a month. It goes from the shoulder to the elbow and occasionally I can feel it in my hands, but that's pretty rare. The leg pain just started a few days ago. It's what has made me actually worry a tiny bit- I figured it was just an RSI or something before. It's not really constant. It seems like it moves around. Sometimes one leg or arm will hurt more, then sometimes the other one. There are periods where they don't hurt at all. The legs hurt more when I'm standing up as opposed to lying down- I haven't noticed that in the arms at all. It isn't just in the joints, it definitely feels like a "muscular" sort of pain.

I don't exercise. No fevers. No fatigue. It's hard to measure weakness, but I don't think so, really- nothing I've noticed. I used to have depression. I wouldn't call the pain particularly severe, but it's distracting and annoying. No weight loss. I've actually put on some weight recently.

Honestly, part of me wonders if it isn't psychosomatic or something. I know that there aren't a lot of great physiologic explanations for what I'm experiencing.

>>9926784
Raise both arms to the ceiling, then slowly lower them to your side. Does either fall faster? Does this cause pain?

Stick your arm out straight forward, turn your hand so that your thumb is point down and hold it there while your other arm tries to push it down. Does this cause pain?

These are to rule out a more common supraspinatous issue.

For external rotation, try flexing your forearm to 90 degrees, then rotate your forearm outward as far as it can go, then grab it with your other hand and stabilize it while you attempt to move it further into external rotation. Then flip and do the same thing for internal rotation. Do these cause pain?

>>9929425
The reason I asked about psych history is because it does sound somewhat like fibromyalgia. It's unusual for acute spinal issues to cause pain that is dull and achy.

That being said, it wouldn't hurt to go get checked up with your PCP. They will likely want to feel for lymph nodes, do a complete blood count, basic metabolic panel, and an erythrocyte sedimentation rate and C reactive protein level to see if there is an immediate cause. Fibromyalgia is somewhat of a diagnosis of exclusion, meaning they rule everything else out to get to that diagnosis.

In the mean time, I'd say you should exercise a bit and try to make sure you are sleeping well and eating healthy. Make sure you are not suffering from depression currently.

Something that I'm curious about, and haven't really found an answer for - Why are there no MCAT dates available for the last quarter of the year? Doing it in say November would be convenient, but there's nothing from the end of September until January.

>>9929443
Yeah, that's really not the diagnosis I want, but it's what I kind of suspect, too. Shit sucks.

>>9929453
You said you had depression at one point, have you ever been treated for depression? Do you feel mentally unwell at this time? Stressed?

Depression also manifests in odd ways and it's certainly possible that it could be that.

The current recommended treatment varies from SSRI's, SNRI's, TCA's and gabapentin. My personal belief is that fibro in itself is a symptom of a neurological issue, not a disease in itself. But again, without doing the proper tests you can't really know for sure.

Are any of you medfags aiming to create new therapeutic technology that will fundamentally improve medicine, solve difficult diseases, and hurry the fuck up with *accurate* diagnosis? And because new technology can be easily replicated, you can improve the lives of millions of people.
Orrr are you just in it to live comfy by taking the life savings off a handful of desperate sick people using techniques from the 60s, maybe only ambition in life is to climb some hospital hierarchy?

>>9929480
>Huurr Durrr Down With Big Pharma

>>9924743
Bump for interest

>>9929387
>I had the option of doing an MD or a DO program, I chose the later
Yeah that didn't happen. If it did you're actually retarded. 90% of OMM is pseudoscience bullshit. I've heard it from DO's themselves.

>>9929517
>Yeah that didn't happen. If it did you're actually retarded. 90% of OMM is pseudoscience bullshit. I've heard it from DO's themselves.


Kek. You are an idiot. Do you have any idea what OMM is? It is a combination of physical therapy, yoga, chiropractory, and massage. All of these are widely used and accepted.

The only outlandish portion of OMM is the cranial nonsense that is pushed which the vast majority of DO's do not do (although some patients swear by it). Learn about something before you try trashing it.

>>9929517
Also, in case you misunderstood my original post, I had the option of doing a DO or MD POSTBACC program, either of which would give entry into medical school with good grades.

>>9929524
chiropractors are not accepted except by people who love $$$

>>9929524
I have talked to many DO's. Many of them are great surgeons, though the internists I've dealt with seem subpar. Still most DO's I talked to told me OMM was a massive waste of time. When I researched osteopathic schools I came to the same conclusion.

>>9929534
Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with chiropractory alone. Putting a bone back in it's optimal position is great but unless you treat the musculature and soft tissues, it's just going to get pulled out of place again. That's why chiropractors can make so much money, they literally treat the symptom but not the actual issue. They also fail to ensure their patient is knowledgeable in how to prevent issues in the future.

>>9929542
Look, I can tell you from personal experience that that is not true. It's a waste of time to someone who wants to make more money, although reimbursements for OMM are on the rise. I wish I could show you the effects on someones body, the diagnosis of subtle rotations in spinal vertebrae or the pelvis can have long standing effects on patients. That being said, the best neuromuscular doctors I've seen specifically coach their patients on how to keep themselves healthy. They give recommendations of stretches as well as exercises and changes to daily routines to ensure they don't need to come back every week.

By the way, one of the core foundations of OMM is known as "muscle energy," which stimulates muscle stretch receptors to relax the muscles. This is not pseudoscience, although I agree the name is dumb. I mention this because many physical therapists use these techniques to help people loosen up contracted muscles.

Do I think I can cure people with this stuff? Absolutely not, it's a way to HELP the body heal and return to normal, not do it for the body.

>>9929542
Actually, if you doubt that the body actually responds to this stuff, you can try it on yourself.

Simply bend your neck forward and touch your chin to your chest, or as close to it as you can get. Then take both hands and clasp them around the back of your neck and let the weight pull your head down. You should feel tightness in the back of your neck, although if you don't, you can gently pull down with your hands. Now, use your neck muscles and push back against your hands (but do not let it push your hands away) with about half of your strength for about 3 seconds. Then stop pushing, relax for a couple seconds, and take a deep breath and slowly pull the head a little further down with your hands while you exhale. Repeat. This can be done to literally any muscle you can restrain in the body.

That is muscle energy and you can personally feel the effects. Personally, I liken it to a much faster form of yoga.

>>9929490
Wow, nice meme, seriously, no other board will edit a meme to refute my posts.

Too bad about your bootlicking of the big-business and your resulting meangless life consigning yourself and your country to stagnation and decay.
Only new technology can save alot of people, and incidentally make you absurdly rich.
Tech Startups from Google to facebook to Tesla have changed the world, and 100s of new startups are needed in med. Badly needed.

>>9929592
>your neck

To be more specific, place your hands kind at the most superior portion of your neck, right at the junction with the head.

>Medschool takes 7 years in my country.
>Already in 5th year so probably everyone I know will finally become a physician.
>Full of toasty roasties who believe in homeopathy and astrology.
>The tests are just rote memorization.
>Few people have a real deep interest in the theory of medicine, almost nobody reads from books or papers, they just study from PowerPoint presentations.
>There's people here who literally find reading boring.
Why didn't nobody warned me doctors and medstudents, including me (can't handle math) are fucking brainlets and that nobody actually knows what the fuck they're doing. I am afraid of having some serious health issue because I can't trust them.

>>9929692
Unfortunately, the sad truth is that even with the strict requirements of getting into medical school, most of the people are still fucking stupid and childish.

>>9923072
>when somebody else has an infection
"Antibiotic resistance is a real problem. Leaving aside the fact that there should be harsh regulations against the use of antibiotics in the food supply on the scale we see today, many common infections have become resistant to our usual arsenal of antibiotics, and we run the risk of running out of old antibiotics to use faster than we can come up with new ones. Staph basically shrugs of penicillin now. We should probably exercise more caution in who gets prescribed what, and patients need to be instructed to always finish them, even if they feel better."

>when I get an infection
"No, fuck that, give me zithro. Yeah, really, write me a script for a Z pak, fuck this kiddy shit. Yeah, I know what it does. My ear felt a little weird too, though, and I coughed a few times yesterday, so I'm not even gonna risk this shit spreading or turning into pneumonia. Yeah, I say let's just nuke it. No, I'll live, my liver's prolly fine. Yeah, that's the shit. Thanks, doc!"
Somebody explain to me why I'm like this.

>>9924490
They need to cull fear mongering lying retards like you
. Oh wait

>>9930107
>anti-vaxxers fear mongering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hP84qQz4o&t=8s
uh huh

>>9930085
There is no good evidence that finishing a course of antibiotics prevents resistance. In fact, from what I can tell, the duration of treatment in virtually every disease has no real scientific basis whatsoever. We take drugs for five, seven, ten, fourteen days- and are the outcomes really different? Would thirteen days instead of fourteen change anything? What if we had four day weeks, and we had three fingers? Would we prescribe antibiotics for 3, 4, 6, and 8 days?

>>9930118
I mean, it's fair. I think the argument goes double when the antibiotic is a preventative measure against infection in the first place, and not meant to treat an existing one.
If the whole point of taking them was to keep the World's Smallest Incision from getting infected and that probably wasn't gonna happen anyway and the stitches are already out now and the dude looks good and he didn't get any infection, does an extra week really matter?

>>9930123
From what I've seen, it's honestly the opposite. You get resistant bacteria cropping up in these patients with splenectomies or 'chronic lyme' or acne that are on long term antibiotics. It seems a bit like overexposure is what induces resistance, not too little exposure. That's anecdotal, though.

>>9930152
Huh. Well, thanks anyway.

Hey doc,

I got bit by a tick on my leg 2 months ago, I went to the ER 2 times and saw a GP. From that time to now I have been exhibiting Lyme Disease symptoms.

First ER doc gave me Keflex, bearly examined my bite.
Second Doc told me I have a sprained ankle.
Third doc told me I have Achilles Tendinitis.

It was until this week that I explained the negligence of my previous doctors that my new doctor decided to put me on Doxycycline for 14 days despite my blood work coming out negative based on my symptoms getting more and more similar to Lyme's Disease to play it safe. (Which is the only reason I got a script for meds)

I am convinced this is not enough and I should be on a longer regiment (a month perhaps, since it took approximately 2 months to get treatment), although it's only been 2 days of antibiotics. If my symptoms improve, should I convince my doc for an extra round?

Also, I've noticed that there has been a national outcry for people with Lyme Disease since the CDC is handling this like asshats, especially relying on ELISA/Western Blot tests that are prone to false negatives which leads to misdiagnosis. One doctor even told me "that's a East Coast thing, you don't have that" (I'm in Cali) I've also noticed that there are LLMDs (Lyme Literate Docs) that basically rape your wallet due to desperation. It's 2018...wtf, science?

>>9929411
Im a physics major, faggot

>>9929426
None of those cause pain

>>9929392
aboriginal dude who walked in likely high on meth with massive anal abscesses all on his asshole and buttocks. Smelt fucking awful, and the retard tried to walk out after I put a cannula in, started abs and gave some pain relief. He couldn't even lie still while prone, let alone sit.

Another one was a second anal abscess that was actually a fistula when I did a dre looking for one. That was nasty as I pushed my finger through his asshole and out through the infection. He had not taken his prescribed antibiotics for the minor abscess that he had, and came to us a month later.

>>9923072
i really like this pepe

thats all

>>9929448
There aren't any tests available then. They don't do year-round testing, unfortunately

>>9930318
Might just be a strained muscle or mild tendonitis then. Try taking 600-800mg of ibuprofen every 4-6 hours for a week or two so and see if that improves it. If that doesn't work then I'd recommend seeing your PCP.

>>9930304
So the standard treatment for lyme is doxycycline 100mg every 12 hours for 10-21 days. That being said, lyme arthritis is treated up to 28 days. It might not hurt to ask the doc to extend it out another 2 weeks. Doxy is one of the more mild antibiotics we use so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Unless it gets to be neurolyme, doxycycline is the best treatment.

>>9923072
i'm a dentist and i hope not to commit suicide desu

had severe brain injury that resulted in gray matter loss..

anything i can do? any nootropics? fuck I'm so upset

>>9930976
>>9930976
I was fine earlier today but when I first woke up I wanted to scream/cry. immediately upon awaking I knew my brain was severely damaged. I transition from sleep to awake instantly. wasn't like that before. was gradual.

even typing this my head is like lolling back and forth. it's sickening. feel like I lost my former self.sleep does absolutely nothing for me.

>>9923072
>2.95 GPA

Can I still become a surgeon?

>>9930808

hang in there fellow dentist

metaphorically I mean

>>9931007
Please don't

>>9923461
Yep. That's why antibiotic resistance is a thing.
>>9924112
It has too many specialties in its name.
>>9924743
Occasionally a guy like this pops up. A professor I heard about from my country, had like 5 specialties. Surgery was his main, but he also had microbiology,anesthesiology, internal medicine and orthopedics I think.
>>9925158
Shouldn't be that bad I think. But I really don't know anything about the procedure.
>>9926469
Yes.
>>9928000
It's not only with thiamine. Don't get me started with glucocorticosteroids and sepsis... It's the same with other conditions. Basically it's do research evidence shows something start doing it, test it again and evidence shows the opposite. PRetty shitty.
>>9929392
A guy with bladder stones that got a perineal phlegmon which developed after a ruptured urethra due to traumatic catheterisation. Phlegmon spread to his legs, penis and abdominal wall. Basically all of his penis and innter legs and lower abdominal wall was necrotic. Had no idea how this guy didn't die from sepsis, he probably did eventually, but he was in the hospital for 3 months.
>>9929692
We have these too, anon. And you'll have to work with these people some day. Get your nerves ready.
>>9930085
lul
>>9930304
Ricketsias get slaughtered by doxy in normal doses. You'll be fine.
>>9930976
>>9930988
I'm sorry bro. We're far from regenarating brain tissue. Some functions are taken up from other structures of the brain, but a defficit after a severe brain injury will always be there. Be strong and adapt, anon. Wish you all the best.

>>9930761
Asthma so cant take it

Hey faggots, check out this cool retro syrange I bought from an antique shop for my gf.

>>9931404
Does it actually make your asthma worse? Simply having it just means you have to be cautious when you take ibuprofen. You could always try a low dose of ibuprofen and work your way up from 200mg.

>>9931422
is she a heroin addict from the 1950's?

>>9931429
Thanks, ill try

>>9930761

Lyme guy again,
Thank you doc, I haven't developed the more serious symptoms and the ones I already have are mild (as if they are getting more and more noticeable) I hardly think about it because I'm so busy but at the end/beginning of the day I feel it. I don't have time to think and worry about it, but I do feel abnormalities that aren't in my head. (Psychology Major)

I threw up once since I took Doxy on a empty stomach, but I am keeping a log of my status as days go by (symptoms dev, medication reactions/complications, improvement, ect.) I think I'll let my Doc know in case I puked out the full dose. (Day 2 and a half)

I feel like the Lyme Arthritis is the heaviest of my symptoms (abnormal cracking joints/fatigue/tingling numbness in bite area), i'm pretty healthy, no history of genetic diseases but I'm certain it could be related since these developments happened after I was bit, including the "rash" that went away about a month ago. It feels as if I'm in the EARLY of the late stage (62 days of wait: Stage 2 Lyme) I only waited so long because I trusted my doctor's diagnosis.

I feel like my new docs have never dealt with this before, so I'm doing alot of the documentation/education myself so there won't be any more room for guesswork. Looking into Cannabis/Natural remedies. I'll ask my doc to give me another round if my my symptoms improve aswell. Frankly, i feel like all this could've been prevented from the start instead of playing hot potato if the CDC didn't officially state "to wait for it to get worse so it can be detected w/ the standardized tests that fail 3/4ths of the time, and not treat aggressively enough".

I'm also convinced this is easily curable but being handled irresponsibly, been reading ILADS & Lymedisease.org and it seems there's a minority that's becoming a large majority.

>>9926514
I saw that “Bleeding Edge” documentary on Netlix. In it they talked about CT as hundreds of x ray beams (in terms of strength). Sould I worry if I had taken it a few times?

>>9931718
No, not really. The risk is pretty small (but still measurable). It depends on how young you are, of course, but in general if a doctor decides that you need a CT scan the benefit from getting that CT probably far outweighs any cost in radiation exposure.

>>9931390
not sure how severe it is. alcoholic beverages work wonders cause it kinda numbs it out.

managed to meditate today and felt amazing afterwards. concerned about mental health

marijuana also works wonders for me but can't quite afford it

>>9925507
What do you mean when you say your GPA isn’t that good? If you get As in all the prereqs, have your LORs and extracurriculars lined up, and do very well on the MCAT then you have a chance. Most people fuck up their freshman year and typically medical schools more heavily weigh later years of UG when looking at grades. You’re at a serious disadvantage in California, by the way.
Volunteer at a place where you’ll get tons of patient contact, like an assisted living facility. If you’re not scared off by the dementia, screaming, assorted smells, and misery then medicine might be right for you.

>>9929303
Only idiots look down at DOs. Functionally the difference between MD and DO is minuscule. I’ve worked with DOs who are much smarter than many MDs. /sci/ is full of elitist retards who think because they’re a physics major in undergrad that they know everything there is to know about all branches of science, including medicine. See this retard:
>>9929373

>>9931748
Yeah, there is a huge misconception between what DO's actually are. I do think there is a difference depending on where you live though. An osteopath from the United States is different than one from Europe, or so I've heard.

I just like to clear any misconceptions about DOs that people have and what exactly OMM is.

>>9931007
You’d be extremely lucky to even get into medical school, unless you’re a minority.

>>9927939
Does this also count for “social drinkers” who only drink in the weekend or is it just actual alcoholics?

>>9923637
>>>9923553
>>nursing research
>That's what they call cleaning asses now?


fat chink with coke bottle glasses, autism, unpopular, smells, premed, arrogant, destined to fail at everything and be the dishwasher his father is.

fuck you.

>>9924179
>I'm about to get my doctorate of nursing practice, had my boss say he'll fired me if I change my prefix for Mr. to Dr

Leave. Fuck that prick. DNP is doctorate of nursing practice and contrary to the loser wannabe scientists in here, that is a major undertaking worthy of respect. Fuck your boss who cannot make it through terminal education. Fuck him royally.

>>9925340
>what's the most useful medical definition of alcoholism

boozehound

>>9925436
>Should I stay in California if I'm getting into radiology or should I consider out of state for post-grad?

depends if rocket man get prissed at yankee imperial and throws one of his toys at us. if so, california is a good place to practice your specialty of interest

>>9930480
me too

>>9932014
are you implying if you don't drink booze you cannot be an alcoholic

help my right testicle is inflamed and hurts a lot wtf is it? i feel like it is epididimys or twisted shit shoul i get an echography?

Will I be made fun of for being a DO?

>>9932085
By premeds and the uninformed? Yes.
By the people you'll end up working with every day? No.

>>9932063
Yes.

>>9932085
In my experience, the only people who care about postnomials are problem patients you'll have a very easy time forgetting about.

>>9923072
I have aspergers and Marfan sydrome. Are the two correlated somehow?

What's the maximum glomerular filtration rate?

>>9932002
>>9932007
Can I have a sandwich and another blanket please?

>>9923553
>>9923637
>>9923657
>nursing research

Lmao.

But for real though, it's funny how doctors are often completely oblivious to simple things that make huge changes in healthcare efficacy. Like how did they not know that being clean means fewer infections? I'm a nurse and I hope that this profession starts getting more respect and less menial work.

>>9929560
Didn't osteopathy branch off with a similar sublaxation philosophy but with the aim of improving circulation to promote health? I'm not bashing on DOs. The education and training with MDs are on par, but to give OMM any legitimacy beyond placebo effect worries me since it would be giving precedence for DCs to say they're better than an icy-hot patch.

>>9932351
One is neurological and another is by defective collagen synthesis iirc
Unlikely but I'm no geneticist

>>9931432
No, she's a medfag too.
>>9931737
Alcohol is toxic to all cells, so it isn't the best thing for your gray matter.
>>9932063
If it was torsion, you probably wouldn't handle the pain and would go to the ER. Anyway you should be talking to an urologist now and not /med/.
>>9932351
Eh, don't think so.

>>9932602
It didn't branch off to that, it was always one of the core ideas behind osteopathy. That being said, we learn very few techniques that "affect blood flow."

One is dural sinus drainage which is where you put traction on the skull away from suture lines. The sutures are really only fibrous material and only calcify completely in the elderly, so it's not "incredibly" far fetched. But more importantly, I personally do it because I've done it to people with headaches and it seems to benefit them.

Another is pretty much any technique to the first rib. The thoracic duct, the main lymphatic drainage in the body, comes up through a bunch of tissues before it dumps into the left venous system. The belief is that stasis leads to sickness, so if the lymph fluid isn't flowing, the immune system doesn't function as properly as it should. So by treating the first rib, you read the tissues in the area and increase lymphatic flow. More interestingly, many people who are sick DO have dysfunction in this area.

Pedal pumping is another one technique where you essentially use the feet to "pump" the lymphatic fluid around. I personally don't do this, I don't see a use.

And then there's "rib raising" which is putting pressure on the ribs in the back to put pressure on the sympathetic nervous system that runs just over them on the inside of the rib cage. This supposedly increases blood flow everywhere. Personally, I do rib raising for muscle tension, not sympathetics.

>>9932378
>>9932378

I am premed I will be surgeon you all student are shit I am #1 will be vralidictorian I don't need friend life is doctor mean being alone. Doctor is best.

>>9932353

depends on how much you drink and how much the ducts feel like collectin'

>>9932351

everything is but clearly Marfan's is more physiologically impairing. no clear answer on asperger's probably prenatal

really fucking want one of those smartphone ultrasounds

does the quality completely suck compared to conventional ultrasound equipment?

>>9932631
>Alcohol is toxic to all cells, so it isn't the best thing for your gray matter.
oddly enough if you stop drinking you will regain some brain matter that you lost

>People deliberately harm pets to get prescriptions for opioids
jesus christ

>>9932378
Sorry, but the attending went home and I'm too afraid to text them to ask whether you can eat or not. Wait til morning, grandma.

Psting here because im desperate and need replies ASAP.

Im a self sabataging piece of shit and i left myself 15 days to study for 5 exams, each 2 hours long

My course is biochemistry, I have some notes and attened some lectures so im not starting completley form scratch. However there is so much content I cant possibly cover anything so im doing 70% of the content and hoping for the best,

What im asking is whats the best most efficent way to cram informaiton and quickly understand concepts?

Im planing on doing 3 or 4 all nighters in this period and have already aquired a bunch of mondafinils to help.


Please withhold judgment I know im a fucking retard.

medfags please help

>>9933341
Not medfag but a undergrad with a bit of biochem under my belt. What worked for me was going through slides and writing in pen on a looseleaf paper all the shit I'd likely forget and with pencil all the stuff that I was iffy on. Try to cram it like a sparkchart. Best of luck and don't do all nighters they are counterproductive. Also draw those pathways out boi.

>>9933371
Thanks m8, instead of all nighters what do i do instead? I need the extra hours i even told my part time job i cant come in for 2 weeks.

>>9932002
You seem nervous, I could prescribe you something for anxiety, I'm aware that "doctorates in nursing" can't do that.

>>9933341
You need to first schedule out your sleep to make sure that you will not be sleep deprived for the exam, if you are then no amount of studying will help with the brain fog.

Two you need to make sure you have the proper amount of food and water.

Three break your studying into 45 minutes of studying and then a 10-15 minute walk where you chew a bit on the information. The cardio will help keep your brain working and the time away from the studying will give your brain enough of break to incorporate the next grouping.

I would suggest doing reinforcement techniques such as chewing a specific flavor of gum while studying a specific portion, it worked well for me. Flash cards and the like suck but work well, writing out the things you learn helps with memory a bunch. As does reading aloud to yourself.

If you think you can do it a memory palace may be your best friend in this case, it is good for cramming.

Best bet is to find a tutor or a friend that really understands the subject matter to help you out.

Medfags assist, if i go to my gp saying im suicidal what wil that flag me up against? i dont want meds or thrapy but I do want them to know because ive been htinking about ending it all latley. (feel depreesed atm think its stress related. i do have a method planned if i decide to end it but dont activley want to die atm)


Like I dont want to be sent to the looney bin or have any freedoms I have taken away. UKfag

>>9933427
bump

>>9933427
I have done exactly that.
Sod all will happen, he will just try and refer you. Might give you some proper faggot antidepressants, but they aren't even allowed to give strong shit out, only the people they refer you to can. You can just ignore the appointment he gives you if you don't want to do anything.

>>9933427
Its actually really difficult to get put away too, you really have to show them some shit.

>>9933427
>>9933472
>lives in 1st workld country
>probably doing alright finincally
>still want to kill themselves

whats wrong with whites?

>>9933472
when he asked if you had a plan what did you say

>>9933481
I nearly die on a regular basis and I'm tired of it, no friends or money either. I'm pretty ready.

>>9933382
Thanks bro.

>>9933489
Told him it, they really don't care and have no power.

I want to be a surgeon, how satisfing is it and are they treated well? Is there a need for them or is there a surplus?

On the subject of mental health, I keep getting what I can only describe as flashbacks to a few different times approx. 15 years ago, I'm really there for 0.5-1.0 second. My memory has slowly been dropping off too. I think I might be fucked this time.

>>9933517
how hard are you willing to work, how do you handle pressure?

to be a medfag you cant be a loser autist like engineers can you? How are your social and love lives?

>Physicians Experience Highest Suicide Rate of Any Profession

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/896257
Why do you guys kill yourselves much? I mean even more than soldiers

>>9923072
Moral implications on Crispr? How regulated should it be?

>>9933532
If theres a guaranteed career awaiting, i will have more ambition to put in the time. My memory is very good and my spatial reasoning and hand coordination is above average. I can handle situations others would find stressful but at the same time i cant handle social interactions very well which spooks me

>>9933538
Pretty much because of something called smashing your head against a desk 24/7. It's pretty depressing to be around ill people all day.
I personally doubt it's easy for someone to tell a patient he's got terminal cancer or perform an abortion to then deal with the typical faggot thinking they haven an STD because they have genital bumps or the other dude saying he's got God knows what diesase because he googled some symptoms he had and trusted the first result.
You're sparing life, naturally it's no shits and giggles.

so I think I have some sort of anxiety disorder, like randomly getting freaked the fuck out sometimes and illogically overreacting to stuff (my heart skips a beat sometimes and it always scares the fuck out of me to the point where I audibly gasp), sometimes it even gets hard to drive around because I randomly get afraid for some reason (maybe my brain is realizing that I'm going fast or something)
should I bother bringing it up with my doctor or will he give the medical equivalent of "just b urself"?

>>9933584
Anon, that's not anxiety disorder, be careful.
Check if your pulse is more than 100 beats per minute and you've not been exercising nor you have a fever.
If that's the case you're in trouble and should seek medical help before they find you suffering a heart attack or in a diabetic coma.
How often does your heart skip beats?

>>9933600
mate I'm 22 not going to have a heart attack, and they're not that common, maybe like 2-3 times a week
my BPM is ~90 because I'm an out of shape fuck

>>9933600
Not the other guy but, are you serious? My heart often skips, or a certain beat will feel like a hammer on my chest, or knife like pain. Typically sways between 75 and 110 or there abouts.

>>9933612
>>9933617
I'm not your doctor so I can't make any medical diagnosis but heart diseases are not that rare. It seldom is dangerous when you're young but it might develop into heart diseases later on.
Stay healthy.

>>9933626
I've had a holter monitor thing done when I was like 12 which returned normal and I had a recent blood test which was normal for everything except calcium (doc going to check that out soon)
I really doubt it's anything except anxiety

>>9933641
Type 2 diabetes isn't usually found in blood tests (unless a test regarding specifically diabetes is made) and might cause heart diseases, are you overweighted? Not to mention altered vitamin D and calcium homeostasis (causes abnormal amounts of vitamin D and calcium in blood) play a role in the development of DM2. Anyhow, maybe I'm finding connections where they aren't but you should talk to your doctor about your heart thing, he should know.

>>9933626
Oh well, I don't know what a hypochondriac really is but I desperately want something guaranteed fatal.

>>9933655
what do you mean? Blood glucose??? standard part of CMP? hello???

>>9933677
You dummy, DM2 means your insuline sucks, not that you lack of it not to mention the required tests usually are A1C that are never used for a diagnostic blood test.

>>9933677

ignore
>>9933655

There are tons of tests. HgbA1c is gold standard. Violent DKA-inducing labile glucose levels with beta-hydroxybutyrate. The glucose level in a CMP and the specific oral glucose tolerance tests. In fact, this is how NIDDM is diagnosed. So, disregard 99% of what you read on 4chan.org.

>>9933617
PVCs with exertion, PACs with stimulants (caffeine including). If you find your pulse racing away or have systemic effect (you are sweating, dry mouth, chest pain, dizziness) then please get an eval and overnight obs admit to a monitored bed to see if there is a congenital heart issue albeit mechanical or electrical.

>>9933380
>You seem nervous, I could prescribe you something for anxiety, I'm aware that "doctorates in nursing" can't do that.

You aren't aware of shit you third world turd.

DNPs like any nurse practitioner or midlevel such as a PA has prescriptive authority up to and include CII narcotics depending on state and if needed, collaboration agreements. You are just some future premed washout posing on an Malaysian aviation underwater forum.

>>9933341
>Please withhold judgment I know im a fucking retard.

Know that your issue with procrastination often stems from poor insight and low self-esteem. Care not what others think of you - in 10 years you will likely know none of "them" or whomever it is that is negatively influencing you.

>>9933293

No, the answer is that we are calorie restricting this pig piece of shit and she cannot have her third sandwich midshift.

>>9933707
>There are tons of tests.
Yes, to detect if he has NIDDM, not if he's in a very early stage, in which case only a specialised test can detect it, which he clearly did not undergo.
>So, disregard 99% of what you read on 4chan.org.
He's not going to die for getting tested.
>congenital heart issue
>Implying DM2 doesn't induce congenital heart defects.
Disregard what I'm saying though, I want to find diabetes.

>>9933721
His mother probably has NIDDM and so he does.

>>9933721
>Disregard what I'm saying though, I want to find diabetes.

Ask him.

>>9933732
Kek'd.

>>9933721
If he is having SYMPTOMS that you think are attributable to DIABETES don't you think that he is no longer in a "very early stage"? It isn't a fulminant disease.

>>9933772
Well, yet he's far from the clinical picture.

Have you ever seen a patient so fat they had to go to the zoo for their CT?

>>9933783

Many look as if they got a day pass from there for one.

>>9933707
>DNPs like any nurse practitioner or midlevel such as a PA has prescriptive authority up to and include CII narcotics depending on state and if needed, collaboration agreements.
Really? In what shithole anyone but Doctors has authority to prescribe anything?

>>9933912
Most states in the US

>>9933912
Why, how else could big pharmaceutic companies make so much money?

>>9933912

Good God you are dumb. Go back to your calculus homework.

>>9932290
>>9932631
so igot the testicle echography SUPOSEDLY it is nothing in the right testicle but i have GradeII-III of varicocele (i had already noticed this long ago). So echography wasnt really good.

Fun fact. i waited 2 hours to get attended, then the on gu*rd medic didnt believe my testicle hurted me and told me to fuck of the medical guard LMAO So i had to ask for the echography.... Shal i go to an urlogyst? me right testicle hurts when the epididimus is pressed or pullled

>>9934051
>but i have GradeII-III of varicocele
in the left testicle
> So echography wasnt really good.
to diagnose me
PS: I had to wait 1 additional hour to get the echography turn

>>9934051
yes, go see a urologist, obviously

>>9934059

first this bad balled dude needs to consult with spell check wtf

>>9933707
>PVC's with exertion, PAC's with...
I have one of the most severe forms of epilepsy so perhaps its a consistent problem to do with that, I'm in no position to say at all.
As an example, it will go say 80bpm for 3 seconds, then 120bpm for 2 seconds and level off at 70 or something. I have no idea if that's what an irregular heartbeat.
The most concerning one is probably that it appears to stop and get quite heavy for approx. 1.5 seconds, then smashes in like a bomb and continues as normal.
Sorry for all the brainleting.

>>9934075
kek i am not an english speaker and i was very lazy dont take it badly
>>9934059
going tomorrow i guess

>>9934051
Let's see, medicine test:
1) Fill the blank using the appropiate words: A syndrome is a set of ______ and ______
Anal diseases, puppies, symptoms, dicks, signs

2) Multiple choice:
a) What's the definition of symptom?
I) Dunno.
II) A physical or mental feature measured by the patient such as pain.
III) Filler wrong answer, such as kittens.
b) What's the definition of sign?
I) All above.
II) A post.
III) A physical or mental feature measurable by objective means such as protuberances.
c) Is knowing both signs and symptoms important for a medical diagnosis.
I) Yes.
II) Wrong answer.
III) Yes twice.
d) Is it okay to dismiss a patient's pain as being acted?
I) No.
II) Still no.
III) All of the above.

If you got a 10 then congratulations, you aren't a fucking moron. Too bad the medic on guard did fail the test.

>>9934105
Yes, it's called arritmia, caused by a malfuction in the heart's electrical system. It so happens to be that epilepsy is caused by neuronal problems, more specifically an electric overactivity from the brain.
Yes, go see both a neurologist and a cardiologist. Unless you have some shit luck, whatever you have affects both the electrical system in your brain and heart.

>>9934132
I don't think the neurologist has any options left, they haven't managed to find anything/control it. I think she might refer me to a special place (University Hospital Southampton, UK) but I have no idea what they do there, perhaps someone can quickly check it out?

>>9934159
So you have a severe case of epilepsy neurologists can't find? Sounds odd, didn't they put you in a room with a flashing light til you began moving violently? Last time I checked that worked for people with severe epilepsy to see brain activity.

>>9934159
I don't know why I called it 'a special place' that was autistic as fuck.

>>9934167
They did that but nothing happened, I've had MRI's and EEG's (multiple) but nothing of interest apparently. They are pretty grim episodes, I will probably take some time to describe them tomorrow, they might be interesting to someone.

>>9934105
you may need drug levels checked and a holter monitoring if you have WPW or some related early reentry syndrome with your cardiac impulse, or toxic levels with your meds. regardless, none of this is medical advice and you need to speak with your provider and any specialists immediately. don't be a statistic.

>>9934189
Now that's what I call bad luck. First he's got severe epilepsy which affects less than 0.5% of the population and then he gets WPW which affects 0.2% of the population. What are the odds of that?
It's got to be something else or he's the unluckiest person ever so to get two unrelated diseases which cause electrical problems in the body.

>>9934204

Interesting read. I'm sure his neurologist ruled-out MELAS syndrome.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5765247/

>>9934122
>A syndrome is a set of symptons and signs
>A sympton is a physical or mental feature measured by the patient such as pain
>A sign is a physical or mental feature measurable by objective means such as protuberances.
>knowing both signs and symptoms is important for a medical diagnosis.
>It is NOT okay to dismiss a patient's pain as being acted
Yeh i know anon thanks you. She was a col***umbian inmigrant and also an on call medic so that explains a lot... Fucking retard she is

>>9934262
Hey, that's impressive. I never expected 4chan to save a life yet here we are.
>>9934105
Do what anon said and get checked for MELAS before you end up with your brain an electrified mush.

>95th percentile entrance for medicine
>5 years basic degree
shit

redpill me on paramedicine

>>9934313
It sucks, get a real doctor or die in the most darwinian way possible.

Honestly, after reading this whole thread I get worried because US medicine can't suck as much.
How can a neurologist fail to diagnose MELAS syndrome?
How can a guard medic dismiss some dude with an abnormal enlargement of the pampiniform venous plexus in the scrotum? He might aswell be dying of testicle cancer and no one would know because "I don't believe he's in pain".
When things like that happen, there's a problem and a serious one. Millions of people die each year of medical mistakes including bad practice and wrong medications.
This is a serious issue and it's not OK.

>>9927841
Last time I checked, BDD was a mental illness, what changes wanting to cut your healthy arm with wanting to cut your healthy dick?

>>9933341
>15 days for 5 exams
ez, you got this. anki the fuck out of everything, for starters. then set the "repeat" value or whatever really fucking low. by that i mean instead of seeing an easy card again in a week, see it again in 2 days or something. now, again, make a shitton of cards. do them. do not fucking press the buttons how you're supposed to, ie. if it's easy, don't press the easy button, answer everything as normal or hard. do the normals at least 3 times and rotate the hards into normal when you're starting to remember them. once you've nailed a normal card at least 3 times click on easy so you stop looking at it.
biochem is notorious for pathways, so make sure you use the image occlusion add-on. figure out how to use that yourself, but image occlude fucking everything in that pathway. first do individual occlusions, then chunks. don't do the whole pathway. while you're working on these pathways you're almost certain to not remember shit, or same with your cards - you have no idea wtf it's talking about. refer to notes, draw the fuck out of everything on whiteboard or paper. do this so many fucking times you hate yourself, the pathway, your life decisions. then draw some more, bitch. you're its bitch now.
within a day or two you should be able to nail most of these pathways by memory if you stop being a fuck-up and go ham on studying for hours.
make sure you draw the pathways a fuckton of times every morning and night, and do your anki cards.

you can do it.

>>9923091
buddy toe that shit nigga. Any man who's done any sort of physical exercice knows this.

How much does it cost to get your vision surgically corrected?

>>9934565

Well whatever you do, don't fall for the discounted transdental electromicide procedure.

>>9934313
>Life of a paramedic:
-Graduate school
-Make minimum wage being glorified taxi driver for 5 years
-Fail flight paramedic twice
-Fail 50 fire tests
-Get accepted to nursing school

>>9930113
>Mortality rates = incidence rates
>what is improvement of treatment
>what is disease prevention

Is Reye syndrome ultimately just a form of hepatic encephalopathy?

>>9934666
You guys always bring up mortality rates saying how dangerous it is and children die from it.
Better lifestyle is what is treating us, you saying this is literally helping my point, we dont drink poop water anymore so now people aren't dying.
disease prevention is not vaccines, disease prevention is entirely contributed to sanitization and cleanliness found in our society today, we drink clean water and dont live in filth but nobody wants to talk about that.

>>9934705
>what are outbreaks
>what is herd immunity
Also keep in mind that severe diseases like these often permanently scar and disable children even when disease is well-managed. Polio is a good example, since infections had high "treatability," except for the massive risk of paralysis or other motor impairment.
I can't wait for retard antivaxxers to give "eradicated" diseases enough space to reestablish themselves and form new epitopes. Go found a retard colony away from civilization so that when your "totally preventable" measles epidemic happens it'll remove all of your kind from the genepool in one fell swoop

>>9934752
>what are vaccine strain outbreaks and why do all outbreaks occur in fully vaccinated groups
>what is natural immunity and why is infinitely superior to induced herd immunity
>often scar and disable" got a source on that?
>measles epidemic
good fucking joke, next you'll be telling me chicken pox is deadly.
http://vaxtruth.org/2012/03/the-polio-vaccine-part-1-2/
Polio had 95% asymptomatic cases.

>>9934832
This is not an argument we are having. You can go somewhere else and peddle your conspiracy theories. No one here is interested in debating a lunatic who is willfully ignorant of the oceanic body of evidence that already exists vouching for the safety and efficacy of vaccines, demanding sources he will just wave a hand at dismissively for the most minute of claims that are easily verifiable with a quick ten second search through the medical literature, and cling desperately to his collection of conspiracy theory websites as 'sources'. Enjoy your perfectly harmless and innocuous rabies, polio, tetanus, smallpox and measles, I'll gladly take my autism over that.

>>9934832
My understanding from your highlighted section is that doubts on a vaccine's effectiveness (e.g. 95% effective) should not detract from its use. Using a site like vaxtruth isn't helping your claims either. Were it established that an ubiquitous vaccine were detrimental to health, researchers would call it out and have it removed from the schedule. You probably think that 'big pharma' colludes with docs, and that 'toxins' are ignored because of inside corruption. This view generalizes 'big pharma' as a monolith and ignores the fact that competing drug companies would sure as shit compete to replace a product that was 'defective'. Although it's bad to use metaphors in health care, think of vaccines as a product too. If one is found to be bad, you can sure as shit count that a better replacement will be developed.

By natural immunity, I think you mean getting the disease and having adaptive immunity after inoculation. I can see your reasoning for this being natural but some shit like measles (btw nobody says the vaccine perfectly protects everybody) can be far worse on adults so having herd immunity to protect both young and old through vaccines is the best bet.

what's /sci/'s opinion on PAs?
How difficult is it to go from PA to MD later on?
What do you all think are my chances?
Waiting to hear back from schools atm:
>2 years of 911 EMT experience in super shitty and underserved areas
>1 year of patient transport experience in a hospital.
>shitty undergrad GPA (like 2.7 bad) psych major
>3.9 post bacc pre-req GPA
>applied to 9 schools, 6 are in Cali

>>9934920
Generally harder to get in due to smaller number of schools.
Adcoms will look favorably on your post-bac GPA but I'm sure you need a lot of shadowing in addition to clinical experience. Also, don't you also need the GRE or MCAT?

>>9934927
Adding to >>9934920
> going from PA to MD
If MD is the end goal, go through there. I think it may look as bad as doing nursing to MD. Can see it easily raising a flag.

>>9934927
Yea, I got above average on the GRE (don't remember the exact score, sorry). I have something like 50 hours of shadowing which I did at the hospital I work at, 30 with PAs and 20 with MDs.
>>9934931
I realized, after looking into it, it would've been near impossible to go straight into med school because of my undergrad gpa. I also have no idea IF MD will be my end goal or not, but I won't count it out if I wish to pursue and do more after a few years of PA

My nips have begun to feel warm and uncomfortable, with some breast tenderness and general discomfort, what do i do

t. male

>>9934971
>nips causing you discomfort
Drop 2 atom bombs and call me in the morning.

Vaccines give you autism.

How do you know if you're cut out for this shit? I have no problem with 3 hour Anki sessions or working 12 hour shifts, but I also lack patience and make more mistakes when I'm mentally exhausted. Almost at the point of yelling at strangers on the street like George Costanza.

>>9923072
If everyone stopped seeking healthcare from doctors it would be possible for ordinary people working together to abolish medicine I think.
How does this make you feel as doctors? Would you still want to be a doctor if it were only other healthcare professionals and ex-doctors seeking treatment for health problems?

Degree in Medical Imaging worth it if I'm fucking retarded?

>>9935081
>If everyone stopped seeking healthcare from doctors
The fuck are they going to do then, die?

>>9935084
What country?

>>9935084
Medicine is not really about being extremely smart, its more about discipline and working hard along with a hefty amount of social skills. Plenty of doctors are actually well-trained retards or memory savants who had all creative problem-solving ability stamped out of them.

Are you good at talking with other people? This is essential for some areas in medicine,and less so in others. For an imagining expert you need to be at least able to communicate effectively with other staff.

>>9933190
The cheapest US machines have shit quality, I can only imagine a phone US.
>>9933427
He won't prescribe you meds and won't send you to the "looney bin", but therapy is necessary I think.
>>9934051
>>9934056
I'd advice an urologist, too. He can grade the varicocele more accurately and attend to the right testicle. If you want kids you gotta get rid of the varicocele.
>>9934565
A lot?

>>9935084
>>9935084
Medicine is not really about being extremely smart, its more about discipline and working hard along with a hefty amount of social skills. Plenty of doctors are actually well-trained retards or memory savants who had all creative problem-solving ability stamped out of them.

Are you good at talking with other people? This is essential for some areas in medicine, and less so in others. For Medical Imaging you need to be at least able to communicate effectively with other staff.

>>9934882
If you were not retarded you would see that the site had listed many sources from many published peer-reviewed journals and articles but you'd rather just say "hurr obvious anti-vax site therefore bias and doesn't count" so you don't have to challenge what the science.
How the fuck are we supposed to know if a vaccine is detrimental to health if we aren't doing basic studies, oh right we compared a group of people who got heavy metals injected into themselves to another group of people who got heavy metals injected into them, they had the same rate of deaths therefore vaccines are safe.
http://vaccineinfo.net/issues/conflictofinterest/conflicts_of_interest.shtml
Conflict of interest IS a thing, I'm sure you've bitched about multiple politicians having financial ties to industries and foreign powers, yet you talk about them here and suddenly its no longer an issue, why do we have no 3rd party oversight? This shit is why we have William Thompson, Poul Thornsen and the recent HHS scandal that proved HHS hasn't been sending vaccine safety studies to congress for 30 years and compromising the safety of the general public and the Poul Thornsen studies have NEVER been verified yet we still use them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT6ABaWN3gA&t=8s
I'm arguing that the vaccines are causing more damage than the measles ever could in a 1st world country with proper living conditions (sanitzation, nutrition, etc). Measles is not deadly to somebody not living in a shit hole 3rd world country that drinks poo water.

>>9935084
Depends on whether you actually want to be a tech and can pass the program. For what it's worth the physics isn't too bad, and for me at least the hardest part is that anatomy which you have to learn a shitton of in a very short period of time. Very little technical problem solving involved except for how to actually position patients. Basically if you're good at rote memorisation but can also adapt your imaging techniques you'll be fine.

>>9935087
Australia. Medical Imaging professionals here are paid way better than in US, especially Sonographers

>>9935093

>Are you good at talking with other people? This is essential for some areas in medicine, and less so in others. For Medical Imaging you need to be at least able to communicate effectively with other staff.

Very interesting question, I've had Laryngopharyngeal Reflux for the last 3 years. It makes it hard to talk for extended periods of time.

>>9935105
>>9935102
I'd be happy to answer some more questions about this by tomorrow if you can think of any, just can't do it right now.

>>9934262
Interesting stuff, I have never heard my neurologist mention anything in there, so I don't know what to say really. It certainly has progressed from what I would consider light but disturbing absences, to full blown seizures, in the last ten years. Something that really caught my eye was the auditory part, because I go deaf in one ear hear and there.

>>9934179
The description I was going to do.
They start with an increasing mental effect that really distorts perception of time, including a mild falling feeling, approximately in line with my heartbeat (coincidence I think though). Reasonably smooth like a sine wave. (Its hard to explain without drawing, but I'm sure you can visualise a graph with that on). Very disturbing overall.
In the past it will have returned to normal on one of the down slopes of the wave, after peaking. That hasn't happened in quite a long time though.
They will now shoot up at that point instead, with massive amount of saliva being fired into my mouth (at this point I'll not be able to stop swallowing, but I can't tell if its me doing it because of the excess saliva or some part of the seizure, I'm too gone at that point) a very intense rise in said feeling over ~1.5 seconds, then unconsciousness as far as I know.
Its hard to tell where it goes from here, as you can imagine, but I understand I will start having a physical fit, eject all fluids, everything that comes with it. I understand I'll wake up after 10 mins or so. I will typically wake up ~2 days later in a hospital bed with no idea where I am or how I got there, despite having apparently been awake the whole time. Can't really move my limbs because they have been annihilated. Memory totally ruined for a week or so after (and general memory loss seems to be accumulating)
There's tons more details that I can't remember, but I don't like thinking about it.
Sorry for brainlet terms again.

>>9935114
That would be really nice

>>9929594
This shows that you're only able to identify the direct output of the extreme vastness of medical research. Remember that drugs take ~20 years to make it to market due to requirements of clinical trials and FDA, and there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of people working in medical R&D in biotech and pharm and academe. Yet again you support the stereotype that physicians (in your case more likely med-school bb ;^}) cannot see beyond their own two feet or the tools that are currently available or 95% of the way to production.

>>9927928
The clinic knows, she doesnt

>>9929392
As a dentist I had a woman vomit after puting implants and removed a massive formation in a pregnants woman gum. Pic related the formation

>>9935095
Your website proved my point of a vaccine removed (Salk's) and replaced with a better one. Consequently, US has eliminated polio.
Corporate malfeasance is a thing, but the NIH, CDC and FDA won't let bad shit fly. A vaccine or medication with unacceptable risks won't make it past trials. (Also why the insistence on congress, as if they would read all the reports the receive let alone understand them.)
The insistence on heavy metals...
Must you be just as dense?
>conflict of interest
Like Andre Wakefield and that little lawsuit he was involved in?
Lastly, the injury caused by measles vaccines is among one in millions. Whereas death are in the % (per hundred) in countries when unvaccinated.

>>9935075
For medicine? It's really not difficult. The material you learn is simple, there's just a lot of it. I usually try to think about things logically and make sense of it rather than memorize it, and I've done very well on tests.

My recommendation, don't use flash cards for shit that isn't pure memorization. They work great for pharmacology and muscle insertion/origin, but don't use it for systems. Generally everything in the body makes sense and follows a logical pattern, if you are trying to memorize systems you are doing yourself a disservice.

>>9935102
>paid way better than in US, especially Sonographers

I am from the US and a lot of the sonographers I've met make between 60-80k a year. They are very well compensated here because it's such a skill based job. How much do they make there?

Dock you know what this is and can i pop it, it hurts when i Puttgarden preasure on it but not much.

>>9935395
Pic

>>9935093
>Medicine is not really about being extremely smart, its more about discipline and working hard along with a hefty amount of social skills.
B-but in muh House MD...

>>9935395
Are you playing the guitar?
Don't pop it. You skin is hardening. You shouldn't get hurt next time you play whatever instrument.

>>9932572
It literally is menial work. Is this why nurses are disrespected?

>>9934865

Hear, hear.

>>9934931
>I think it may look as bad as doing nursing to MD. Can see it easily raising a flag.

Quite the opposite. Many BSN/RNs that wish to specialize instead of CRNA, NP, or related advanced practice nursing fields have and find themselves readily accepted into first-rate allopathic schools provided they meet the requisite standards of admission.

>>9935304
Polio never eliminated, just the definition changed and diagnosis criteria changed the same day, I'm sure that wouldn't affect the data, at the same time polio-like illnesses sky rocketed and we are seeing just as many polio-like illnesses now. Also, why would a vaccine not make it past without unacceptable risks? They aren't liable, the 1986 act protects them. And heavy metals aren't even tested, the last time thimerosol was tested 1929. They manipulate the data to make vaccines look safer, I want a true vaccinated vs unvaccinated study, you can't give one group a product and then give another group the same product and say that the one variation of the product is safer than the other therefore the product itself is safe that is fucking retarded.
Still going on about wakefield even though Thompson has come forward, good joke.

>>9935138
Okay, the content isn't impossibly hard but there is a lot to take in if you want to be good at shit. You could scrape by with 4's pretty fucking easily but you'll likely be a shit tech and employers will notice pretty quickly if you're still getting your markers confused or anatomy wrong. I know a lot of unis are now forcing you to do an honours research project, which will either be a bit of fun or absolutely excruciating depending on your inclination. I personally got into this profession because I hate research with a passion, particularly the kind of pussyfoot garbage you'll get when every student is forced to do some. Shit like measuring self reported levels of discomfort for patients based on whether or not the tech is smiling. The content, at least in my course, was very focused and there were only a few wastes of time. You probably won't have to do any electives either.

As for your communication, this may be difficult depending on how bad it is. If you can project your voice relatively well and aren't a complete autist you'll be fine. Most of the job is getting the patient to do what you want them to do, like hold their arm in position or get on the table without breaking their hip. You gotta be nice about it though since they'll probably want to talk about their problems, or get belligerent or paranoid. Coworkers might be cool or complete dicks depending on where you go, but regardless communicating things about the patient is relatively important.

Let me know if you have any other questions, because when I was in your position I could find zero answers to my questions and had to go in blind.

>>9933536
Most surgeons are autistic af

>>9933655
in principle isn't it trivial to detect diabetes & prediabetes with those cheap as fuck glucose tests you can buy at any walgreens

>>9933539
morals have no place in medicine
we need more based mengeles and unit 731s, but with published and reproduced work
do it on prisoners like the chinks do and then harvest their organs(fucking a why are the chinese ahead of us on this)

>>9933600
NSR over 100hr with anxiety is usually not pathological

>>9934105
sick sinus syndrome

>>9934204
>unrelated
it's probably shit genes tbqh

>>9934167
he's a brit, their doctors are so overworked they're striking. don't trust any diagnosis or treatment from the shitty island of autists.

>>9935604
lol most surgeons are chads

>>9933536
you've never met a radiologist have you?

>>9936522
most people don't get to meet Good Doctors, so i doubt he has

>>9936520
>>9935604
Here we see an accurate documentary of surgeons and specialists hard at work treating an average patient:

https://youtu.be/HUMuZY5Bt34

Hi /med/ I desperately need some guidance,

I'm a 4th year human bio undergrad at a good UC, I transferred from a California CC with a GPA of 3.91, I have been at the UC for a year now and have obtained a 3.2 sGPA out of the 30~ bio upperdiv courses I have taken. I still have another 40-50 upperdivs to take so my UC gpa could go up to a 3.4-5.

I have research under my bet and should have some clinical publications before I apply.

I haven't yet taken the MCAT but assuming I score mediocre there too would I have a chance at any MD/DO schools?

Why do anti-TNF agents make autoimmune nervous system problems worse? That makes no sense.

any pharmfags here

Sorry for the medical advice question, but I'm curious. How much sugar should a healthy young male who does regular exercise limit himself to if he doesn't want to get diabeetus? The recommended limit here in Australia is 80g but I feel like that's way too high.

Just asking again, does anyone know anything useful about University Hospital Southampton? I imagine they do a lot of things but, specifically epilepsy related? It seem reasonably difficult to get a referral to there so it would be interesting to know why. Can anyone find out what machines they have?

>>9935557
I'm considering doing this course here:

https://study.curtin.edu.au/offering/course-ug-bachelor-of-science-medical-radiation-science--b-scimrsv1/

Do you think Medical Imaging Technologists or
Medical Radiation Therapists have a lot of employment options? In Australia there is a shortage of Medical Imaging Professionals, but I think that's more for Sonographers.

I think the best path for Sonography is Medical Imaging Technologist Bachelor degree => Sonographer Masters degree?

>>9936773
Certainly at a DO school, MD might be a little more picky.

That being said, you can always search for a school that does postbacc programs that will give you a medical school spot if you do well enough in it.

>>9937239
thanks for the info man, id also like to mention that id also have clinical volunteerism/shadowing/solid letters of rec too. As well as extracurricular like involvement in student senate and being a principal member in a couple campus clubs unrelated to my career goals. This stuff useful at all?

>>9937033
That course seems pretty good. In my experience radiation therapy is a shit field and takes a lot of the rejects from medical imaging. Job prospects are pretty awful since it's such a really niche field, whereas with medical imaging you can get a job at any hospital or clinic that has an x-ray tube. I'm not too sure of current job prospects, but I'm going to say prospects are 'good' compared to most other degrees you can get. It's not uncommon for people to get job offers from the sites they do their longer clinical experiences at, but that comes down more to how well you fit the place and if they need someone. Miles better than graduating with a BSc and having to lick some professor's arse to get a 20k/year research position.

>In Australia there is a shortage of Medical Imaging Professionals, but I think that's more for Sonographers
Sonographers are medical imaging professionals, so you'd need to take sonography as postgrad study. And even with that, you can do a masters in different types of ultrasound, like general or focusing on specific regions. I don't really have a personal interest in sonography, but what I hear is you get paid the most out of all imaging modalities, but most of your work is mostly on pregnant women. Career changes are common in medical imaging because modalities do tend to get a bit boring after a while; for example it's not uncommon for most of your day to be chest x-rays.

>>9936785
TNF seems to be important for activating Tregs via CD120b/TNFR2

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5739577/

Can any gastroenterologists comment in cocommitant use of a biologic such as remicade and an inmunosuppessant such as methotrexate or imuran to treat IBD vs. only a biologic? My GI sort is recommending I eventually start something like imuran or methotrexate along with already using remicade to prevent antibodies building. the cancer worries from using two drugs is what worries me. I already have the increased risks from just remicade so I don't want to have even more from these terrible immunosuppressors.

T. Crohn's colitis diagnosis

HELP i drank expired olive oil. it was stored in a glass bottle. its been expired for 14 years. what should i do. i know that i may have exposed myself to botulism

>>9936808
Reporting in from Hospital

Fucking dental offices want to pay dental assistants minimum wage

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I was born to a 55 year old man, Is that's a good or a ad thing? should I kill myself?
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>>9938912
There's a small probability you could have a bunch of awesome de novo mutations that will grant you abilities - both mental and physical - never before seen in the human race.

>>9938912
You probably have autism.

>>9938943
define "autism"
I don't understand what the average person means by this? I'm already always lonely as fuck but do you mean that autistic means lonely? Is loneliness a disease?

got food poisoning a few hours ago. would taking something like an Advil be ok to alleviate muscle pains?im asking because i dont know if it would agitate my stomach more

>>9935351
Converting australian currency to US currency... 65-110k a year.

My father has ;ung cancer, with radiotherapy they found it early and he seems to be doing fine now.

he is 54, give it to me straight whats the real prognosis/ i've read that it might return in a few years or something. He is a stoic/ insular and strong man so he wont give me all the details.

>>9929392
Black necrotic tumours covering an entire leg, groin and most of the left half of the body. The smell was the worst, multiple nurses and HCA's threw up.

>>9939131
no one can realistically or responsibly tell you with the information that youve given

>>9937458
Thanks again for your advice. I think I'll look into doing the unit. I'm a brainlet and used to hate STEM but over the last few years I've become jaded at the subjectivity of the liberal arts, history, journalism, etc. I want to study something more concrete and Medical Imaging seems like it'll give me that opportunity.

>>9925507
if you have below a 3.0 gpa dont even try

I had glandular fever as a teen for like an entire summer, now i constantly feel unmotivated, small/weak and struggle to put on weight. Is this chronic fatigue and what can I do to fight it?

>>9938912
>should I kill myself?
yes but not for that reason

starting to think i don't have wernicke’s encephalopathy but probably just sleep deprivation and hypocondria

still wondering exactly how fast a heart with normal sinus rhythm has to beat for how long to develop tachycardia induced cardiomyopathy

>>9923340
Christ, that's horrifying.
>>9933289
There was a man who approached me once asking for me to buy him opioids when promising to pay him back in a god damn fast food restaurant while I was at lunch with a co-worker. Probably because I'm white and was in business casual. When I told him I couldn't do that, he kept on insisting and put some papers in my hand which were clearly not medical forms.
Motherfucker looked like a guy on speed. I didn't want him to tard out, so I managed to excuse myself and got a worker to ask him to leave. Figured if I told him to piss off, he would start attacking me or something.

how do i not literally run over every decision i've made today in my mind when i get home

>>9923340

>thoughts on sex reassignment surgery?

Well, its got an EVEN more faggot-y name now because "reassignment" was considered too problematic, so its now called a "sex affirmation surgery".

With minor exception I think that the profound percentage of people who identify as "trans" having significant mental health history along with my quiet belief that the remainder of them have just not been diagnosed yet should be a fundamental component of any thought about whether permanently altering someone's body via an unnecessary elective surgery is ethical. Fuck, we are even trying to make it legal for kiddos to start taking hormone replacement therapy at ages as young as 12. You can't consent to sex at that age, but you can consent to CHANGE YOUR SEX? We don't even fucking know what the outcome of giving otherwise biologically healthy children HRT and yet we are rushing to push it despite all the controversy around just giving peri-menopausal women estrogen to reduce symptoms?

Literally only insanity and a cultural obsession with equality drives this ride, Mr. Bones.

>>9923553

DNPs are fucking retards who don't know their limits. You wanna be good? Get an MD and work your ass off. You wanna be an estrogen ridden shit show who has a constant fucking chip on their shoulder because they will NEVER be the final authority? Get your DNP and be sure to constantly blog about how hard your work is and how you "have the brain of a doctor and the heart of a nurse" not realizing that anyone who spouts that fucking insanity without the most overt forms of irony is literally retarded.

Fuck midlevels who want to practice on their own. It is literally equivalent to asking a high school student teach Calculus to physics majors. Even if they walk away feeling self-important, the best possible outcome is time was wasted on someone outside their depth.

>b-b-but my training is JUST AS HARD as yours is!

600 hours of supervised training is piss in a cup compared to even a month of residency, and keep in mind most of those go for upwards of 4-6 years.

>nurses connect more with their patients

The one study that showed that had immensely specious methods and even with an immense bias on both reporter and recorder's side, along with running it through every statistical analysis method they could think of until one generated a p<0.05, it only BARELY made a difference. Now if you look at the mountain of evidence that shows outcome of care, its sophistication, number of visits required to get the right diagnosis, etc. you will see doctors come out on top without exception and by a huge margin.

Fuck nurse practitioners and whatever the fuck the DNP is supposed to be, much less their absolute lack of a real role in the healthcare setting.

>>9923657

>its not just about wiping asses
>posts examples that are effectively the research I would expect to come out of a janitor.

Holy shit fuck nurses. You guys are fucking worthless and in the best of circumstances make up only 20% of my time that gets wasted each day preventing me from being able to see patients. Why couldn't you just be happy with putting cool rags on patients heads and talking to them about their dogs? Docs and nurses were fucking brothers and sisters in arms when they first rose into the scene, and now you just can't be satisfied with anything so you keep foolishly shoehorning yourself into every aspect of medical care only to make it objectively worse than it was before because you are only distracting the MDs from their fucking jobs.

>>9924179

You would be committing a felony by assuming the role of a physician without credentials. Sorry the law is a nuisance to you. I would assume you would have learned that in your "good enough" education.

>>9929303

I liked the DOs I met before med school. At about third year I realized that DO students were lacking in educational rigor. Not all of them of course, met a few that went to a Osteopathic program for god only knows what reason but are now top tier experts in their field. Rare, but happens. Most DOs end up in primary care managing people's HTN and DM along with all the other bottom barrel students who barely managed to pass through med school so they ended up in FamMed.

>>9929392
Decomposed 300 lbs homeless dude found a couple of weeks after he died... in the woods. Face was melted off and literally covered head to toe in maggots. The smell, the color, the slick feeling of his saponified fat during autopsy, shit even the fucking sounds his putrid flesh made while we were working on him were offensive. Literally the worst thing I have ever seen or expect to.

>>9929524

just look up the history of chiropractic medicine and the people who "discovered" it. If every step of it doesn't seem like a huge fucking con then you are a dunce.

>>9929594
better physicians and less interference from midlevels and MBA holding hospital administrators who have never opened a medical textbook in their life would all do wonders in improving patient care and ensuring positive outcomes.

Also abandoning the "systems based approach" to identifying sentinel events and just sorting that shit out with an old fashioned M&M and autopsy would likely do an immense amount of good for medicine.

>>9930085
Because azithromycin is fucking amazing and god damn works. Also much and more of the rise of antibiotic resistance came from the combination of mismanagement in ICUs and the complete inability of the third world to know when and how to administer them. Really, just go to any fucking country outside the US/CA and western Europe and just ask for antibiotics. They just give them to you. No dosage instructions, no concern for therapeutic index. Just a big sack of amox.

>>9930808
Dentists rarely commit suicide, likely because they make great money, work good hours, and are typically their own boss. Now anesthesiologists and neurologists on the other hand...

>>9932007

First off, the fact it starts with a D and isn't a NPPhD is the FIRST sign that everyone with a DNP has a fucking inferiority complex and needs to feel like they are a doctor.

You aren't a doctor. You won't be a doctor unless you complete medical school. Your PhD (loosely) does not confer onto you ANY additional privileges in the hospital or healthcare setting and learning about how families feel sad after a loved one dies is not exactly what I would call "high impact research".

Seriously fuck anyone with a DNP.

>>9932085
The people who make fun of you are the only ones that actually respect you. The ones who don't either are misinformed or think you are too fragile to hear it.

Learn to love the abuse or the only people worth working with (by that I mean, actually have valuable skills and are interesting) will abandon you for your weakness and you will wallow in the same shithole that nurses have been slowly festering in for the last 40 years.

>>9932572
Ignaz Sammelweiss was a doctor and so was Lister you fucking child. Sterile medicine was discovered before nurses even became a thing and they had literally nothing to do with it. Way to act like a fucking dindu and try to take credit for something that isn't yours though.

>>9933517

They are not treated well, but the work is satisfying because its one of the last vestiges of modern medicine run by doctors. Everyone else is an assist. Plus its really viscerally satisfying to fix shit.

But you won't know how you feel about it until you do it for a while, so don't get your hopes up on it yet because the mere fact you are asking about it means you have at best an image of imagination about the life of a surgeon.

>>9933912
Most places unfortunately. Nurses fuck up prescriptions and by proxy their associated diagnoses at astounding rates, but usually by the time it gets to that being discovered they have abandoned the patient and pretend like they have never met them before.

>>9934313
Paras are bros. They know their limits for the most part and so long as they can hold back on intubating the patient poorly, they tend to be mostly additive in the quality of medicine from scene to hospital.

Also what >>9934596 said. But if you can make it to fire life is gud because you hang out with bros all day. Miss that rotation...

>>9934920
PA that went to PA school because "less school, more freedom, don't want to be the final word in medicine, 90K/yr is more than enough" are bros.

PAs that went to PA school because they failed to get into med school (read nearly 70% of them), are about as malignant as DNPs.

>>9940124
>Also much and more of the rise of antibiotic resistance came from the combination of mismanagement in ICUs and the complete inability of the third world to know when and how to administer them.
Thirdies ruin everything.

>>9940124
>just look up the history of chiropractic medicine and the people who "discovered" it. If every step of it doesn't seem like a huge fucking con then you are a dunce.

I don't care how it was discovered. Are you really going to sit there and tell me that if your neck or back is stiff, if you stretch it and crack it yourself, that it doesn't feel better? Really?

>>9926979
>>9929049
>>9935099
>>9935093
>>9937458

For guys in medical imaging / radiography / x-ray tech / etc.

How do you feel about automation? Will robots take your jobs in the coming decades? Will you become pic related?

>>9940285

Automation is not going to happen anytime soon, at least in the way you think that it will happen. New medical technology is usually very expensive, and 99% of healthcare is doing the job with the least amount spent. The technology as gotten much better in the past 20 years, but unfortunately that means that techs are also spread much thinner, yet expected to keep the same safety standards for each patient.

>>9940330
>that means that techs are also spread much thinner

Sorry, you mean techs are in less demand?

Anyone here go to a Canadian med school? I want to get into UWO or Queens desperately, wish it wasnt so competitive...

pls don't let me die /sci/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWjI4Hekaxc&ab_channel=AgingReversed

>>9940089

>fuck nurse practitioners

I'm a psych nurse. I will become a nurse prescriber and eventually a nurse consultant. It makes no sense to spend 3x more on a consultant psychiatrist if I can prescribe psychiatric medication instead. It makes way more sense financially which means extra staff can be recruited.

I'm not very knowledgeable about general medicine and nursing but on the psychiatric side there's a huge role for nurse practitioners. Plenty are shit at their job but unfortunately so are plenty of doctors.

>>9940150

>Most places unfortunately. Nurses fuck up prescriptions and by proxy their associated diagnoses at astounding rates, but usually by the time it gets to that being discovered they have abandoned the patient and pretend like they have never met them before.

Do you have any idea how many people I've heard about die or come to harm directly as a result of arrogant, lazy doctors with a deficient knowledge base? Maybe it's because I'm working on psychiatry which attracts the worst doctors on earth. I spent a few months doing MH assessments in a general hospital, the staff on that side seem more competent.

>>9939147
>something more concrete
Fuck yes it is. I'd say around half of your studies are anatomy, and really in depth shit too. Very little room for opinion since everything is hard facts and set in place. Another 40% is positioning which you learn from textbooks and adapt to your own style. As long as you're not hurting the patient and getting good images you can do what you want. The last 10% is communication and conduct bullshit that you'll just have to suffer through, but it's usually very light and multiple choice stuff. They do make you do a lot about aboriginal cultural sensitivity, but again it's not too bad.

>>9940285
Not gonna happen. Machines pretty much work themselves already, but positioning patients will always require an experienced tech. People won't want to be positioned by computers or big metal arms or whatever the fuck, and anatomy varies so much between people that a network capable of surpassing a good tech won't happen within our lifetimes. Worst case scenario you can get a job in equipment sales, management, or jump ship to medicine because you'll already know a lot of shit.

>>9940098
I don’t believe you’re a doctor because you’re on 4chan

>>9940542
>>9935557

Not sure if you're the same guy but you've got me really interested in medical imaging. But still my biggest worry is how my Laryngopharyngeal Reflux will affect my work. I think it'll be a problem for all careers, but more so for jobs where I have to talk a lot.

I can project my voice relatively well to begin with but it becomes painful and my projection declines as the day goes on. After 3 years it has improved considerably but my recovery seems to have plateaued since the first year. I might have it for life. To give you an idea, if you and I were having a one-on-one casual conversation, I could last about 1 hour until I become uncomfortable and after 2 hours the pain would be unbearable. So it's important that I'm not talking in a loud environment and also that there's breaks inbetween talking. If I was working with patients, I would probably wouldn't like small-talk or jokes because I'ld want to minimise my vocal output as to conserve my fragile voice.

How many patients do you see a day?
How long are you talking to the patients for?
Are you talking with co-workers constantly?
Are there times when you are filling out forms / configuring settings on equipment where you don't have to talk at all?

>>9930113
What is variolation. Dude learn medical history. Variolation was introduced and it works the same as vaccination. But you could literally still just fucking die from variolation anyway. If we didnt do vaccination that graph would look the same and you would have a different graph about variolation instead. But even then you would still be better off doing that than contracting measles.
>do no harm. Better than the alternative

>>9930316
>the guy who commented that they were 12 when they made an argument on the internet

>>9935263
what did you do about it btw? "me a dentistry student that's why i ask"

>>9938773
in my country "syria", the maximum wage can a dental assistant get per month is 40-80$, no idea if that's low or high

>>9940659
It's almost like we improved our lives and diseases stopped being a threat. Scarlet fever was killing more people than measles or small pox, we have no vaccine for it yet its COMPLETELY gone and follow the exact same path and is basically no longer a threat, funny that.

>>9940756
Didn't mean to say it's gone meant to say not killing people*

>>9933539
No experiments on germline (reproductive) cells until we fully know the implications. Other than that we are far removed from any real gene repair, needs to get at least more efficient than current retroviral vectors

i made a new thread because MDs are bad at 4chan

>>9941279
>>9941279

>>9933976
In my country the idea of nurses prescribing anything is unheard of m8.