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Is this accurate?

>> No.9907456

>>9907450
Yes. Girls do suck at math. The distributions are different; women are mediocre. There is a reason why everyone who has ever made a meaningful contribution to knowledge has been a man.

>> No.9907458

>>9907456
>who is Sophie Germain

>> No.9907468

>>9907458
>one outlier means women are as good as men
no

>> No.9907475
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>> No.9907485

>>9907475
so basically zero difference. gotcha.

>> No.9907487
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9907487

>>9907485
>basically zero

>> No.9907490

>>9907485
Wow, girls suck at math.

>> No.9907502

There seem to be no indicator of girls being worse at math besides motivation to study.

>> No.9907504

>>9907502
and performance...

>> No.9907520

it's a pretty good representation of /sci/'s backwardsness, yes

>> No.9907532

>>9907456
>Girls do suck at math
Everybody believes this lie because it works to make men feel superior and as an excuse for lazy women who don't even try to understand math.

>> No.9907537

>>9907532
I guess women being weaker than men is also just a social construct?
Those tens of thousands of boys that shatter women's world records every single year are just more motivated and less oppressed, right?

>> No.9907544

>>9907537
That was the dumbest argument I've ever heard. I sincerely hope you're shitposting because if you're not you're an absolute moron.

>> No.9907547

>>9907544
Look up your local highschool track and field statistics for the year. Then look at the women's world record. (be aware, that for field women use less weight at all levels)

>> No.9907564
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9907564

>>9907475

>> No.9907568

>>9907450
On average women suck st math, not to say all women suck at math.

>> No.9907573

>>9907564
are you retarded or just an (((agent of subversion)))?

>> No.9907591
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>>9907485
>11 percentile point difference
>basically zero

>> No.9907593
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>>9907487
>>9907490
show me the histogram, faggots.

The SAT math score range for college admissions to top American public universities, for top engineering schools, is 630-800.
Only 7.2% of the 1.7 million students who were tested in 2012 scored in the "genius" (700-800) range.
Of that tiny percentage, 4.5% were male and 2.7% were female—a male-to-female ratio of 1.6 to 1.
Only 17.9% scored in the "above average" category (600-690), and the male-to-female ratio is much narrower (1.2 to 1).
Finally, almost 30% scored in the "average" category (500-590), and about half were male and half were female; the ratio is just about 1:1.

Fucking /sci/ are filled with goddamn brainlets. It's the goddamn false-positive problem all over again.

>> No.9907622

>>9907537
>I guess women being weaker than men is also just a social construct?
no, thats because women have less muscle mass

but they dont have less brain power, they just have historically been BANNED from learning, so even the few who do have to stand up to a society that thinks they are an abomination.

strenght difference between the sexes= objectively undeniable

intelligence diifference= not so much

>> No.9907632

>>9907622
Basically this. If women are still not contributing shit in 100 years then we can finally conclude they are stupid. As of today they’ve still barely been allowed out of the kitchen for a generation.

>> No.9907635

>>9907622
Consider the following questions:
Why so many male autists?
Why is it that autists excel at logical subjects?
Why do all male apes prefer mechanical toys?
Are men and women genetically distinct?
Is the brain influenced by genetics?
Why is your theory valid when the same trend is seen in societies that were never educated and therefore no stigma to female education could exist?

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9907638

>>9907450
no

>> No.9907641

>>9907638
yeah whoever does these cartoons is a pretentious prick.

>> No.9907643

>>9907537
>I guess women being weaker than men is also just a social construct?
No, it's a fact.
>>9907537
>Those tens of thousands of boys that shatter women's world records every single year are just more motivated and less oppressed, right?
That's retarded. Intelligence =/= Knowledge. Women live in a patriarcal society where they've been banned from learning not a while ago. Some challenge and some just accept. It's common for men to have "easier access" to knowledge.

>>9907638
kek true

>> No.9907645

>>9907622
>strenght difference between the sexes= objectively undeniable
>intelligence diifference= not so much

This. Men and women have a different muscular density/mass and therefore saying that women are physically weaker than men is true. The rest is just a social construct built around the assumption that women are inferior to men in every aspect (which is a pretty shallow, unfunded and vague claim)

>> No.9907647

Not only is it accurate, but every person of extremely low intelligence reasons that way. Nearly every belief on pol can be explained by the fallacy contained in that image to the extent that it's hilarious. Stupid people really love selective generalization.

>> No.9907650

>>9907450
Yes, people do stereotype and over generalize sometimes.
In fact, this comic is a perfect example. It’s creator has assumed that all women only fault the individual while all men fault the group to which the individual belongs.

Ironically, it was probably written by a woman, which contradicts the message that the comic portrays.

>> No.9907656

>>9907450
Yes and no. Women really are worse at math than men.

>> No.9907662

>>9907593
>Fucking /sci/ are filled with goddamn brainlets
And you are one of them.

>> No.9907665

>>9907622
>>9907632
>hurr durr

>> No.9907670

>>9907650
The comic is written by someone too competent to be a woman. He was likely being sincere with no hidden meaning in the comic.

>> No.9907674

>>9907468
>goalpost moving this hard

>> No.9907680

>>9907674
>Thinking any statements people make are meant to be absolute so as to deny the potential of outliers
>Must be goalpost shifting™
>Totally not a buzzword

>> No.9907681

>>9907674
You would understand, it's something called statistical significance; It's a man thing. It means that women for all intents and purposes doesn't exist.

>> No.9907682

>>9907650
>It’s creator has assumed that all women only fault the individual while all men fault the group to which the individual belongs.
No he didn't. You are retarded. There is no generalization in the comic.

>> No.9907684

>>9907682
Of course there is generalization. These people don’t have names. They are not referring to specific individuals. The only thing you know is that one is a man and one is a woman. The message is “girls say this while boys say that”. That’s a generalization.

>> No.9907686

>>9907684
Whoops, sorry, screwed up the figurines. The message is “boys say this when speaking to boys but say that when speaking to girls”

>> No.9907688

>>9907684
The message is "this is something that happens in the world" and of course that is true. There is no statement about what all men say. There is no generalization. That was your fan fiction tacked on.

>> No.9907691

>>9907686
>>9907684
What makes you think that all the bald entities are men, let alone not all different men.
Check Xis privilege.

>> No.9907695

>>9907688
Hmm, perhaps, but it’s no less valid of an interpretation than your own. You’re making up your own fan fiction and calling my fan fiction wrong. I don’t see why you think you’re more informed about the authors intent.

>> No.9907708

>>9907695
What the fuck? Your "interpretation" is infinitely less valid and a ridiculous assumption.

>> No.9907750

>>9907638
KEK

>> No.9907909
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9907909

>>9907647
I’m not a /pol/tard but they usually bring up pretty good evidence. Yeah blacks do commit more crimes yeah jews are generally more greedy. Things aren’t black and white sometimes prejudice is okay when used in the right places.

>> No.9907915
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9907915

woman big dumb dumb

>> No.9908124

>>9907450
As long as she sucks at math, it makes no difference.

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>>9907450
>year 2018
>forgetting "+ c"

mfw

>> No.9908379

The brains between men are women are innately structured differently. Anyone who disagrees doesn't know anything about neuroscience.

>> No.9908380

>>9907450

As long as she sucks Im fine with it

>> No.9908388

>>9907475
>56th percentile
La Creatura...

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9908519

>>9907475
Good thing that all non-genetic factors were controlled for, it'd be embarrassing to jump to an an agenda affirming conclusion about the causes without proper evidence

>> No.9908555

>>9908519
Aptitude test. Sampled over the entire population almost. Consistently shows a disparity even though supposedly there is a push for women in science and mathematics now. I mean maybe correlation is not causation in this case, but I might also get hit by a meteor in the next two seconds so who knows.

>> No.9908586

>>9908555
Sampling over the entire population does literally nothing to show that genetic factors are the reason for the discrepancy

>But it's virtually impossible to make sure everyone has the same education, income, upbringing without discrimination etc.
Which is why social sciences aren't taken as seriously, they can only dream of 5 sigma certainty for the cause of something. Often the only time social sciences get any popular discussion with hard yes/no conclusions is when people are looking for scientific justification for their agendas

>> No.9908590

>>9908519
>it'd be embarrassing to jump to an an agenda affirming conclusion about the causes without proper evidence

not if it helped me get laid, nerd

>> No.9908609

>>9907450
Yes. It's the truth. Women's brains are biologically inferior to men's, and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. :)

>> No.9908618

>>9908586
Gender is independent of class race education etc. You can’t choose what gender you want your child. I fail to see your point anon.

>> No.9908620

>>9907622
The brain is physical and a part of the body like everything else (including your muscle mass). Just as niggers are mentally inferior to all other races, so are women compared to men.

>> No.9908628

>>9908618
If you think I'm arguing that gender is dependent on those things then I'm not surprised you're struggling to follow.
You can only conclude that men are smarter than women purely because of their gender if you control environmental factors with an impossibly strict unethical method.

>> No.9908639

>>9908628
>You can only conclude that men are smarter than women purely because of their gender if you control environmental factors with an impossibly strict unethical method.
The trend is literally observed in all of our ape ancestors...

>> No.9908643

>>9908628
Sounds like you don’t have an argument to me. Name one factor that could possibly skew the results of the SAT results.

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>>9908639
Our ape ancestors took standardised tests?

>>9908643
Education as an environmental factor, a genetic factor that is not gender may well be race

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9908678

>>9907450
Reality

>> No.9908679

>>9907909
>more greedy
Literal fantasy that has never had a shred of truth to it, always coming from the greediest people alive (fascists, neo-nazis, far right vermin). Pure coincidence. Most stereotypes peddled by the far right are 0% truth.

>> No.9908684

>>9908662
I forget to mention the factors should be independent of gender. I.e. education and race don’t count because they intrinsically independent of gender. Going back to you can’t choose what gender of child you want, so its 50/50 you have a son and daughter for all socioeconomic classes. Which we’ll assume gives the child equal access to education and obviously race.

>> No.9908687

>>9908679
That is right, fascist-coined stereotypes are all bullshit, good stereotypes are from reddit and cnn

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>>9907573
>high concentration of paranoid schizophrenics on 4chan
>also a high concentration of people who think left wing shills are personally out to get them
Really makes you think.

>> No.9908693

>>9908679
It wasn’t a coincidence that Jews work in high margin industries and often were kicked out of their countries. They also use nepotism a lot which is another unrelated undesireable quality. Should they be treated poorly because their more greedy? No, but if some Jewish guy is trying to sell you a used car or something its safe to assume they’re highballing. That’s what you should take away from it.

>> No.9908697

>>9908693
You type like an uneducated retard regurgitating lies from pol.
>often were kicked out of their countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians
Hilarious. Time to go back to your containment board, you greedy rat.

>> No.9908708

>>9908697
Yo I’m not christian dude. I don’t see where the hate is coming from either. Greed isn’t necessarily a bad thing in a free market it should theoretically lead to something positive. I’m just saying that Jewish people are generally more greedy, and rather than hiding from that information you should be aware of it. Peace. Take it easy.

>> No.9908713

To be fair, you must be an absolute retard if you think the integral of x^2 is pie.

>> No.9908721

>>9908684
'Education' as a whole experience for someone isn't independent of gender.
A pair of twins, a girl and a boy, going through the exact same schools/classes etc won't get the same environmental factors, they'll make different friends and be treated differently by their peers and teachers for example. They may well have both graduated form the same schools but that doesn't mean their education is independent of their genders. There's variety of codependent environmental factors that you just cannot control without essentially playing God to the point of affecting the experiment by making people's lives so controlled they don't represent real life

>> No.9908727

>>9907643
>patriarcal
stopped reading here

>> No.9908742

>>9908721
That’s a bad example since you’re looking at such a small sample size. Of course there is error when your sample size is 2. It seems to me the boy and girl have equal chance of being negatively affected by their external stimuli. So you would expect this to even out once you get a large enough sample, correct?

It’s good to be skeptical of statistics I just think you’re attacking the wrong one. Also inteligence is multifacetted girls do better on critical reading and writing usually.

>> No.9908766

>>9908742
That example is just to illustrate how the education for an individual is affected by their gender.
There won't be an equal response to different external stimuli if their response to that stimuli is also dependent on their gender, e.g. sexist discrimination can affect the education of an individual and that wouldn't be cancelled out by taking a huge sample size, the discrimination would have an effect on the average education received by all boys compared to all girls

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>>9908766
Yeah discrimination was the only dependent variable I could think of. Its really the only argument you could make. I never witnessed any discrimination in this area. All my teachers were very encouraging to people of different demos I’d assume they’d be fired if it was otherwise, but yeah I don’t know it could be that discrimination makes woman bad at math. If I had to guess I’d say the extent of the discrimination is pic related.

>> No.9908802

>>9908679
Even if we accept Jews having higher IQ than whites, it dies not explain why they have 2x-5x higher admission rates into colleges. This is the easiest to look up but other arguments for mass nepotism could be made.

>> No.9908817

>>9908783
Yea my teachers were pretty great too it seemed to me, but I have friends who would disagree. That said my experience says literally nothing about the state of the nation and it's difficult to tell. I think it's dumb to just dismiss claims of sexism because of nothing other than personal suspicion, and then use that to make conclusions about nationwide statistics

>> No.9908834 [DELETED] 

>>9908802
Implicit in this statement is the assumption that it's Jewish people deciding who gets into university. I've even seen neo-nazis attempt to explain Jewish Nobel Prize wins by saying that the committee giving them out is Jewish, even though that is verifiably 100% false. All conspiracy theorists have very, very low IQs, but it's still amazing to me that everyone in the world magically becomes Jewish if you need them to be.

>> No.9908850

>>9908834
Just a reminder that all conspiracy theories that are out there today are the ones that don't (yet) have evidence accepted by normies. The ones that are proven are swept under the rug and no longer 'conspiracy theories'.
The gulf of tonkin was a conspiracy theory, as was the guilt of the rosenbergs, as was McCarthy, as was soviet infiltration of the civil rights movement leadership, so was the DNC collusion with the corporate media, so was the NSA over reach, etc etc etc.

Try thinking for yourself for once.

>> No.9909049

>>9908802

I think I saw someone already mention this, but you understand IQ isn't the soul determining factor of a test score. Jewish culture holds education high in priority, just like in East Asia. These demographic groups aren't just intelligent, but they're also hard working. There's probobly a study done on the average educational background of certain broad demographics, but I'm too lazy to look