/sci/ - Science & Math

so i talked to this c"""""""""s""""""""" cuck guy the other day and i told him he was a brainlet because he didn't know how to complete a square

stupid fuck told me he'd just finished reading spivak and was then going to self-teach electrodynamics (roflolmao) so he could build some accurate models for a """simulation"""

told him oiler's method was trivial and he wasn't a special child

fucker told me i was a moron for not knowing the R. Kayford method

googled it later that day, doesn't even exist kek what a dumbass hahahhaha

how do we deal with c"""""""""""s""""""""""" majors?

>>9902232
Start a business or research project using your actual knowledge and offload programming to cs people, CS majors are lapdogs of those who actually control the world's innovation and power. They may have jobs. but the majority won't have control.

I have no hate for CS people, unless I'm trapped in a small room with them (my god, the smell...) but that picture always makes me kek

It's pretty retarded to hate "CS" as some sort of undergrad war. It's just retarded redditors

>>9902366
Can we all agree to hate non-steminists?

>>9902366
Fuck off CSfag, I hope your kid becomes an SSRI tranny who kills himself. hope your children are brown and effeminate. hope you gain another fifty pounds and have a heart attack. hope one day you wake up in your marvel movie pajamas and realize you're a manbaby creep hedonist who has never interacted with an authentic or beautiful thought in his life. This is assuming your autistic creep ass ever loses its virginity and mates with a fellow roach. You scum. You rat scum. you are responsible for every evil in this world, every Chinaman who throws himself out of an iphone factory window, every incel mass shooting, every opiate OD and shitty meme and retard sitcom. You, you fucking scum, you pile of slop, you insentient retard, you freak. Shut the fuck up and crawl back to your cubicle

>>9902232
great copypasta fuckin saved

>>9902232
Not all of us cs majors are cucks. To be a cuck, you need to have a girlfriend.

>>9902232
>ITT future professors that followed meme science degrees and couldn't find work in their field.

I have to say, I don't like talking trash about STEM, but if I were to:

Anyone can learn how to do mathematics and chemistry with the right teacher. Not anyone can do all that stuff and be creative enough to come up with badass and unique solutions utilized in one of the most complex mechanisms created by man. Also, what good is electrical engineering for inventing shit if you can't even write the code for the micro-controller to utilize your components/pcb? Computer Science gives you the ability to not only control shit in the physical world, but also in the cyber world. We Computer Scientists are pretty much like gods, with the ability to create whatever we want virtually, within the constraints of time and raw computing power. On top of that, with dabbling(google) in EE and ME, we can also create robots and shit.

What I'm trying to say, is that in your studies in math/physics/chemistry, you will never spend two full semesters of independent studies developing and creating robots from the smallest components and up, designing your own circuit boards to house and interface with a micro-controller of your choice.

If I were to talk trash to other STEM majors, this is what I would say.. But I'm a nice guy, so I'll abstain.

>>9902390
Only brainlets hate.

>>9902547
Imagine being this based and redpilled.

>>9903237
I'm pretty sure that's a newer pasta which has been floating around.

>>9902219
Do they not teach the modulus operator to these people?

>>9902784
Technically, you need a wife

>>9904194
Why use the modulus operator when you can just convert the int to a string and then break the string into a list of chars and test whether or not the last char in the list is 0,2,4,6,8, come on you're making this too complicated.

>>9903171
this post is a really great advertisement for EE, shame you're unaware of that though lol

>>9902256
*laughing /biz/ sounds behind your back*

>>9904295
*laughing turns to autistic shrieking about cryptomemes*

>>9902232
>>9904250
>Engineers making fun of computer science

At least it IS science. I don't know what you guys even do here, even /g/ is too much for you intellectual level.

>>>/biz/
>>>/diy/
>>>/k/

>>9902232
>>9904250
>Engineers making fun of computer science

At least it's science. I don't know what you guys even do here, even /g/ is too much for your intellectual level.

>>>/diy/
>>>/k/
>>>/n/
>>>/o/

I study CS and I have a big cock.

>>9906361
Can tell you first hand there's no correlation.

>>9906361
THE Perfect man.

>>9902219
how about putting some oc in theese threads this board is SHIT

Just double major in math and CS. Non brainlet CS programs already have a decent amount of math in their prereqs. Why would you choose to be either learned (though undergrad mathematics only touches the surface) or employable when you could choose to be both? The best part is prepping yourself for when continuous mathematics makes an appearance in grad school CS, which is where the meme “CS is just math” comes true.

>>9902232
CompSci attracts the worst kinds of people. University sucks, CompSci faggots shower maybe once per week and they all look like fucking WOW playing, nothing but pizza eating greaseballs with the social capabilities of a fucking rock. not only is the lecture hall filled with the stench of permavirgins wearing unwashed and sweaty WW1 replica trenchcoats that they have seen in some random fucking anime that makes them think they are so fucking 'cool' and 'badass' despite the fact that they are mostly obese and couldnt run a mile if their life depended on it, on top of that they have the nasty habit of arguing over the nerdiest most trivial bullshit imaginable. imagine being so retarded that you are going to argue, for hours and hours on end, with someone on the internet that you have never even seen before about the most trivial and miniscule differences between two programing languages or some other trash.

not all hope is lost though, knowing that 40% of them will flunk straight of the bat makes me sleep like a fucking baby.

Clearly, pure Maths is the superior option

>>9906476
>cs + math
I love this meme

>>9907711
What’s wrong with this? I really like math, but I like employment too. I haven’t had to skimp out on hard classes from either major.

>>9904214
What about testing if it can be divided by 2? Or use 2i+1

>an entire thread dedicated to CS hate
>this isn't even the first one
I'm not even mad, just depressed. How long will /sci/ continue to spiral into madness

>>9904214
At least (you) tried.

>>9902219
>>9904214
>>9908877
>>9909383
I’m just gonna assume this is some C family language. If so, this is just one line of code with a ternary operator

for (int i = 0; i < sizeof(Array)/sizeof(Array[0]); i++) (Array[i] % 2 != 0) ? printf(“%i\n”, i) : continue;

>>9909648
If you would actually write it like this you deserve to be shot

>>9910522
He probably wrote it in one line to prove a point. That being said, there’s nothing wrong with it. One line for loops are fine.

>>9909648
i = 1; ... ; i+=2

>>9911111
This is wrong because the question is asking you to grab the odd numbers from the array, not numbers at the odd indices of the array

>>9910522
There’s nothing wrong with the way he wrote it, you brainlet

>>9909648
>(Array[i] % 2 != 0) ? printf(“%i\n”, i) : continue;
(array[i] & 1) && printf("%i\n", i);
:^)

>>9913724
Haha I like this. This would stress out most entry level interviewers

>>9913752
are you retarded?

>>9914803
Considering most interviewers get to face much more retarded people and the bar is set so low, I could see how someone not expecting people to use specific operators in C and C++ could cause momentary confusion

>>9902547

>>9914803
are you retarded?

>>9916915
are you retarded?

>>9907652
>he didn't skip the intro cs class through ap credit
Lmao

>>9903171
That's cool, I just don't wanna do that though.

>>9902256
go fuck yourself, every scientist I know writes ass complexity code that's horrible to maintain and edit, and they barely document most of the time

>>9902219
Can someone actually explain the justification for CS hate on /sci/?

Are you guys just mad that we make way more money than you and have nice comfy office jobs with good benefits, but you slave away for PhDs that end up letting you just become high school teachers or professors earning far less than us?

>>9913724
>>9913752
You guys think you're smart but any decent optimizing compiler with turn (x%2!=0) into (x&1) implicitly, KYS this is CS 101 level bit manipulation, everyone knows this except code bootcamp retards

>>9909648
>>9912671
>tfw you finally understand that /sci/ hates CS because they literally can't program
nice

I want to get a PhD in CS because I hate myself AND want everyone to feel the same.

>>9919626
You should hate yourself. The board is full of cslets and they can't even organize a general on /sci/.

>>9909648
You should prob kill yourself, CS majors like things that are pretty and beautiful. you, being a brainlet with no creative intuition, would not comprehend how code can be made beautiful

>>9919869
C will never be beautiful

>>9902219
I think that computer science gets a bad wrap. because I believe that it allows us to create different spaces with constructed contexts that mimic phenomenon before us and grants us a sight into how worlds could be hypothetically built.

>>9919877
all of science was cults, you need passion to make a decision

>>9919869
>>9919872
C can indeed be beautiful, C++ can also be beautiful. It's not even just about syntax

Programming is an art form just like poetry, aesthetic solutions are often the best

>>9919621
What exactly is wrong with that code, then?

>>9919518
It was just a cheeky joke, nothing actually super clever.
>you can't have fun, your compiler makes optimizations after IR!
>these optimizations were there all along
>"stupid CS 101 brainlets"

>>9919914
Ugly continue statement just so he could use the ternary operator and make the code more compact

>>9919869
I am a math/CS double major.

1. C is pretty beautiful. You'll understand once you write OS code.

2. Beauty is derived from many practices in writing solutions. Sometimes it's brevity, sometimes organization, and sometimes it's the niftiness of the derivation that makes it work.

Stop shitposting and grow up.

>>9919921
That's literally there to prove a point, which was that this was a problem that could be solved in a single line of code.

>>9919921
The continue gets optimized out easily during compilation. It just turns into a simple jump in control flow when made into assembly. It's also a one line loop. It's not really bad at all.

>>9919921
>>9919929
Also, since the single line is a loop, you're doing a check at the top; it checks out as good form for control flow because you're using continue like a precondition. Read Knuth's guidelines

int i = INT_MIN;
do{
for(int j = 0; j < array.length; j += 1)
if(array[j] - i == 0 && i -( (i >> 1)<<1) == 1)
Console.Write(i);
} while((i++ + 1) != INT_MIN);

CompSci attracts the worst kinds of people. University sucks, CompSci faggots shower maybe once per week and they all look like fucking WOW playing, nothing but pizza eating greaseballs with the social capabilities of a fucking rock. not only is the lecture hall filled with the stench of permavirgins wearing unwashed and sweaty WW1 replica trenchcoats that they have seen in some random fucking anime that makes them think they are so fucking 'cool' and 'badass' despite the fact that they are mostly obese and couldnt run a mile if their life depended on it, on top of that they have the nasty habit of arguing over the nerdiest most trivial bullshit imaginable. imagine being so retarded that you are going to argue, for hours and hours on end, with someone on the internet that you have never even seen before about the most trivial and miniscule differences between two programing languages or some other trash.

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TOLD ME SLEEP LIKE A FUCKING ROCK NOT ALL HOPE IS
BRAINLET BECAUSE HE DIDN T EVEN SEEN IN SOME ACCURATE MODELS
BECAUSE HE D JUST FINISHED READING SPIVAK AND HOURS AND BADASS
DIDN T A SIMULATION TOLD ME SLEEP LIKE A MILE IF
KNOW HOW TO ARGUE FOR NOT ONLY IS THE FACT THAT
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READING SPIVAK AND WAS A BRAINLET BECAUSE HE D JUST FINISHED
SPIVAK AND THEY ARE GOING TO ARGUE FOR NOT ALL HOPE
THEN GOING TO SELF TEACH ELECTRODYNAMICS ROFLOLMAO SO HE WASN T
GOING TO ARGUE FOR A SIMULATION TOLD HIM OILER S MAJORS

>>9907652
Based and redpilled.

>>9920538
What about it is redpilled? It is the most stereotypically reductionist /sci/ meme out there.

>>9902232
He was talking about the runge kutta methods maybe? Still pretty easy, but takes a little more though than fucking Eurlers.

>>9903171
t. rising sophomore

>>9921487
I think he said it ironically, although I'm not sure

>>9909648
This is pajeet tier code. jesus christ /sci/

>>9902547
BASED AND REDPILLED, SAVED, QUOTED, PRAISED AND WITNESSED

>>9919514
Because is really easy to get into CS. It is the most normie STEM degree nowadays

>>9923867
In what sense? There isn't anything ambiguous in it. The continue statement is a simple one that doesn't break control flow, and it follow's Knuth's precondition guidelines.

>>9923911
Correction: everyone and their mother is doing CS so that they can have a shot at software development salaries.

Hard software engineering jobs exist, but your random normies aren't the ones getting those. On the other hand, CS academia is filled with a lot of really interesting problems.

>>9903171
EE and ME learns coding and control theory so they can build robots.

CS learns coding.

>>9923920
The second part is blatantly false at any good university. Control theory is taught either later or as part of a computational robotics class. I took it as an upper level elective alongside my other classes

Where does this "hurr durr CS learns coding" bullshit come from? Only 101 was a class that taught you a language. Every other class I took expected you to learn languages by yourself

>>9923926
Also adding onto this, there are a myriad of classes out there that aren't project based. Automata, most of cryptography, design and analysis of algorithms, etc. were all incredibly math heavy. The project based ones like Numerical Analysis and Graphics were also really math heavy (both of which requiring ODEs and the former suggesting you take PDEs).

I'm not saying that they were like analysis (though I double majored, so I took that too, and it ended up being handy in ML), but then all the traditional math you learn as a math major ends up coming back in CS grad school