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9902180 No.9902180 [Reply] [Original]

The fermi paradox is no paradox at all, it actually makes perfect sense.

So let's say there one or more groups of beings who are much smarter than humans. Put yourself in their place. They would have no interest in talking to us. Even if they understand our languages. They may or may not have researched us in the past. But in any case they have nothing to gain by talking to us or revealing themselves to us. Instead they observe us because we are on the verge of becoming intelligent. (creating ai, new technologies etc.)

This is what the aliens are interested in. Gathering data on how intelligence forms on different planets. So they make sure we can't contact other intelligent beings in the universe, because it would ruin their sample.

They may control what we can see of em radiation from space. Cloaking their ships is basic technology to them. etc

>> No.9902248

The Fermi "paradox" isn't a paradox because the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

>> No.9902251

>>9902180
UFOs hve been here, it has been documented and published. Take the Pentagon video NYT published for example. There are thousands of documented cases.

They could be aliens, or angels, spirits, inner earth creatures. But there is life besides us.

>> No.9902261

>>9902251
Yeah, but most is just lies and garbage.
If you know of some genuine videos I'm interested.

It's not easy to know who to trust when you have all these lying scumbags.

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>>9902180
>So let's say there one or more groups of beings who are much smarter than humans. Put yourself in their place. They would have no interest in talking to us

I'm going to stop you right here and ask you to fucking explain your reasoning for this outrageous claim, because what you wrote afterwards isn't an explanation but a shameless string of baseless assumptions,

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>>9902180
Fermi Paradox is popsci garbage used to make shitposting threads on /sci/ to distract people from having real discussions bout science and math on 4chan.

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>>9902248
>the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
Except that it is absence of evidence from a Bayesian perspective.

http://oyhus.no/AbsenceOfEvidence.html

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>>9902248
>absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
Wrong. Bayes' Theorem says otherwise.

http://oyhus.no/AbsenceOfEvidence.html

>> No.9902329

>>9902263
The only reason I'm making this hypothesis (I'm not saying this is a fact for sure) is because the seemingly genuine accounts of ufos that have come forward. Like the pentagon video.

>> No.9902359

>>9902279
The evidence in this case depends of the technological advances, so you don't have evidence that people walks in the sidewalk outside of my house so there are no one is walking there.and this isn't true

>> No.9902407

>>9902329
Ask yourself, what does the government gain from releasing such a video?

>> No.9902412

>>9902407
I don't know, you tell me.

>> No.9902414

>>9902180
We are the solution of this " paradox ".

>> No.9902422

>>9902412
A population fearing yet another bogeyman to push their agenda. The video is fake as fuck.

>> No.9902433

>>9902422
I haven't seen anyone "fearing" it.
They seem to be curious or indifferent.
Also what agenda, can you take your conspiracy theories elsewhere please.

>> No.9902446

>>9902433
>I haven't seen anyone "fearing" it.
>They seem to be curious or indifferent.
What do you think the "space force" is being set up for?

>Also what agenda
Fake alien invasion.

>take your conspiracy theories elsewhere please.
Says the person who believes aliens most likely exist and have visited earth. You need a tinfoil hat the aliens could be reading your mind.

>> No.9902469

>>9902446
You make no sense. USA makes fake ufo video to justify making space force to fight aliens who don't exist?

Space force as I know it without being any kind of expert on it is to have better military capabilities on earth.

>> No.9902493

>>9902469
Why did they release the video in your opinion?

>Space force as I know it without being any kind of expert on it is to have better military capabilities on earth.
They're working military capabilities in space, to defend us from a fake alien invasion. This will unite the population under one threat, only the government can protect us from.

>> No.9902498

>>9902180
The fermi paradox is not a hypothesis, or something that has any sort of basis in reality whatsoever, its based entirely on irrational assumptions and lacks the proper data to come to any sort of accurate conclusion.

>> No.9902499

>>9902261

Read this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C._UFO_incident

>> No.9902815

>>9902359
Is it possible that we would have received evidence of aliens? If yes then its absence is evidence of aliens not existing.

>> No.9902873 [DELETED] 

>>9902815
So that no one walking sidewalk outside of my house, because (you) don't have evidence that any people outside of my house

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>>9902815
So that's nobody's walking sidewalk outside of my house, because (you) don't have evidence that any people outside of my house, sasuga 2 digits IQ anon

>> No.9903211

>>9902180
Eh the real problem isn't even that, it's that space is far too big and any sort of information, such s light takes a very long time to travel such distances, we are basically searching on the stars for civilizations that lived hundreds of millions of years ago. If they wanted to find civilizations that exist right now they'd have to try to guess the planets that would eventually support life millions of years after the information we are able to gather now.

>> No.9903253

>>9902883
>Makes conclusion from one piece of evidence without considering prior probabilities and any other evidence
You're the brainlet, retard. And learn English.

>> No.9903368

>>9903253

>believes that absence of evidence is evidence
>prior probabilities
prior probabilities are useless when there are huge, very huge uncertainties.
>learn English
learn Probability