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Jesus, you have schizophrenia so just take your god damn meds already and quit posting here about it.

I've had a total of 0 good ideas and gained around 50lb since I was put on anti-psychotics (olanzapine for bipolar), they make you docile and easy to manage at the cost of severely reducing any creative/critical thinking skills.

it's not good

I'd elaborate more but the antipsychotics hinder my ability to say or think much of anything at all.

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>>9865912
How are your motivation to do anything? I can't seem to get anything done because of a feeling that everything I do is always being watched, can't get over that feeling. Do they allow you to function or do you just lay in bed all day?

>>9865940
i spend most of my vegging out in front of the tv or wasting time on the computer

i used to force myself to work, but it was a struggle and very mentally exhausting, like yeah i worked but had no motivation to, would spend all of my meager earnings on junk food and cheap alcohol

supposedly there are vitamins and nutritional supplements that you can take to help improve motivation but I've never tried them

>>9865955
Care to say what condition/illness you have? The only reason I would take meds is to get some level of functionality back, otherwise what is the point, I would just be at square 1 again.

>>9865979
I've got the schozoaffective

theoretically it's either take meds or suffer from long episodes of psychosis. I'm sure the meds help some people put together some kind of a life, but there are others in this population that are basically members of the living dead

>>9865754
Chlorprothixen, 15mg a day before going to sleep. I have cyclothimia. Used it during my dysthymia phase. I was completely cured. It stopped working after ~2-3 weeks. First time i increased the dose to 15mg it completely killed my emotions. That was the best day of my life. Consequent intakes did not have the same effect, sadly. Eventually it didn't do anything but make me feel strange things in my dick.
Also, you're guaranteed to fall asleep in 1-2 hours after taking it.
I stopped taking them + my psychiatrist told me you're not supposed to take them for more than a week.

>>>/420chan/

>>9865990
Also, the day when 30mg killed all my emtions also made me slightly dumber. I don't really know how to explain it, but I couldn't recall basic formulas and I couldn't understand the solution to an easy problem. That didn't last long though, only 5-6 hours.

most geniuses had some level of mental illness, taking antipsychotics may lessen the symptoms but at the cost of stifling your creativity and intelligence

>>9865754
They are used to control your thoughts. Don't take them

>>9866022
>most geniuses had some level of mental illness
i want to believe but I have a middling iq at best

I used to have pretty good memory but honestly it's long gone, each psychotic break basically damaged the brain along with the slow but steady brain damage the actual antipsychotics cause

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>>9866022

Pic related, antipsychotics are blue pills

>>9866033
honestly they're a (in many cases much needed) chemical straight jacket

>>9866038
Give a good reason why. Compare what happens to someone taking a series of psychiatric drugs to someone taking no psychiatric drugs in a long term (at least 2-10 years)

>>9866048
Not that poster but there have been studies regarding the long term physiological effect of the medications.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3476840/

>>9866048
what do you mean? they are promiscuously prescribed as a sleep aid or anti anxiety medication yes, but the sad truth is when you've reach the point where you're a locked psychiatric ward of a hospital screaming at the top of your lungs incoherently and a doctor is pushing antipsychotics on you, you probably need them

>>9866077
First of, what are the consequences of not taking psychiatric drugs?
And whether it's liked or not, are there alternatives to psychiatric drugs?

>>9866089
>First of, what are the consequences of not taking psychiatric drugs?
in a state of florid psychosis? all kinds of bad stuff, do we really have to get into it?
>And whether it's liked or not, are there alternatives to psychiatric drugs?
no, there do not seem to be any alternatives at this time, maybe certain marijuana strains that trigger a stronger antipsychotic effect in the brain will work, more research is needed, let's cross our fingers

>>9866100
>Black-white/rigid thinking
>no non-chemical alternatives
No hypnotherapy has been mentioned whatsoever. But here come some studies
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/255984217_The_Effective_Use_of_Hypnosis_in_Schizophrenia_Structure_and_Strategy
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080428160113.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090109083453.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151027213824.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090624153102.htm
Success with relativating this info

Stem cell therapy has shown promise in treating psychosis.

>>9865754
They will kill you.
Not your body, at first.
It starts by raping your neuroreceptors.

>>9865754
I took about 20-35mg abilify daily in the past 8 years.

They keep me from getting psychotic.

Other effect was weight gain, I lost the ability to control how much I eat, and I nearly doubled my body weight in two years. I regained that ability though, and now I can lose weight again. But it took some years to adjust my impulse center or whatever it was that got afflicted by abilify.

Now, I just came home from cognitive testing with psychiatrists, and while I don't have the test results yet, I can say that while I aced the long term memory section and possibly IQ test section of the test, also sections including vocabulary, common knowledge, optical memory and a few others.

But, I had terrible troubles in short time memory sections, like repeating a string of numbers backwards, that were said to me out loud, or other very simple tasks like listing all kinds of words that begin with the letter S in one minute. It's like I had a mental block in place which felt very strange.

In about two weeks I get the official results from the test, and will have an accurate picture of how much psychosis and meds afflicted me mentally. If I'm not too retarded I plan on getting back to uni next year..

There has recently been a thread claiming that

a) the Dopamine hypothesis of schizophrenia was wrong

b) Dopamine antagonists had no reliable evidence of effectiveness because literally all past clinical trials had been partially unblinded by side effects.

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>>9866033

this. i also heard that they cause severe weight gain and sometimes liver damage. the anxiety/depression caused by cognitive dissonance between reality and what the authorities tell you is better managed over the long term by taking red pills and realizing the truth of the Bible including the gospel of God's only begotten son, Jesus Christ, who gave his life on the cross as full payment for our sins, was buried three days and then resurrected. in the short term, however, many people might benefit from the extreme sedative effects of antipsychotics to deal with their demonic oppression.