/sci/ - Science & Math

nice lol

based rocketman

>>9840110
How are we btfo?

>>9840227
>I'm rich, btw! *underpays my minions*

>>9840110
My little Elon.

>>9840272
start your own company.

>>9840110
Engineering is magic when it's someone else doing the work for you, lmao

>>9840400
>just, like, start your own business, bro! xd

>>9840413
If you weren't a deadbeat loser you unironically could. Most businessmen are just normal people with good work ethic. The average person just slacks off at every opportunity without even noticing.

>>9840272
Idk dude, I don't feel underpaid

studying a combination of mechanical engineering and business studies/economics in europe how fucked am i ?

>>9840227

>>9840489
you're not fucked, you will make more money than literally 99% of the population, get off 4chan and live your life for god's sake

>>9840489
mcjob in 5 years. The field is already oversaturated, and everyone is pushing "lol everybody go into STEM" memes while simultaneously investing in pajeet monkies

>>9840413
loser.

>>9840110
I'll bet this isn't even ironic.

>>9840445
How do I get billions in tax dollars?

>>9840586
By building things the government is interested in subsidizing and buying.

>>9840413
great post

>>9840413
Most people are too young to remember but 40-50 years ago most people had their own business's, its a totally reasonable proposition.

>>9840494
is he going to shoot up a newspaper

>>9841465

based

>>9840227
Burning up the jews up here alone

>>9840445
Most businessmen also never get rich, but you only hear of the ones who made it

>>9840494
>said the asshole who got rich by inheriting mommy and daddy's money, exactly according to modern rules

>>9840400
BRB getting my parents to own a gemstone mine and rebirth me

My Little Spergy: Engineering is Magic

>>9840110
Magic is the taking of other people's ideas and re-branding them as your own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vactrain

>>9840110
He isn't wrong. I feel like a wizard half the time.

>>9840110
>>>/reddit/

>>9841694
True, but most businessmen aren't bitter NEETs like you and can support their families and a comfortable lifestyle.

>>9843583
>ideas
Nobody gives a shit about ideas in the real world. Unless you can implement it, and make it actually profitable, it doesn't matter. You're basically saying that because someone tried something and failed before, nobody else should ever attempt it again.
>but muh media persona
It doesn't do any good to get into the minutiae of what you're doing with idiot normalfags. As clearly evidenced by your post, an unbiased look would just make the idiots puff up and act smug.

>>9843723
>most businessmen aren't bitter NEETs like you and can support their families and a comfortable lifestyle.
No. Most businessmen stop being businessmen because their business fails.

>>9840413
If you think starting a business is an impossible task, then you don't have the iq to be posting on this board and you need to go back.

way too many boot lickers in this thread

everyone doesnt have the same opportunity in life
it takes money to make money
luck is just as much a factor in success as knowledge and skill

>>9841694
Almost all live a comfortable lives I can assure of you of that.

>>9840272
welcome to business
They signed up to work for him at those rates of their own free will
if they wanted more, they should have negotiated a higher wage, or worked for someone else that offered one

>>9843777
Their business fails because they were retarded and their idea was retarded or they simply didn't have what it takes to run a business. You would make it seem like it's pure luck, which it absolutely isn't.

>>9844186

>boot lickers

leftist detected

>luck is just as much a factor in success as knowledge and skill

not when you build multiple billion dollar companies including a fucking rocket company revolutionizing space travel

that takes some serious knowledge and skill

vast majority of people posting in this thread would fail even if they had all the opportunities and luck of Musk

>>9843729
>You're basically saying that because someone tried something and failed before, nobody else should ever attempt it again.
Where did I say that?

My point is that Elon is presenting these ideas without pointing out prior implementations, how they failed, and how he is going to do them differently to make them succeed.
He is creating a lot of hype around the artificial novelty of "his ideas".

>>9844186
this
>lmao losers just get a work ethic
where did you get your "work ethic" from? you don't choose your parents their income where you are raised and you don't control your genes

>>9840272
this triggers the elon-bots

>>9844319
>t.boot-licker

>>9844353
You keep using that word but I don't think you know what it means.

>>9844370
dont worry about it. I'm sure that the rich will trickle down on you some of their gratitude if you keep licking their boots.

>>9844377
whatever fag go back to leftypol

>>9840586
By saving the government billions for launch services.

>>9844418
>t. Bootlicker

>>9844377

>muh trickle down

Trickle down works when it comes to technology. Billionaires investing their money into high technology are a positive influence on the world.

>>9844418

>>9844445
It's funny that the pinkos bring up "muh trickle down" in a musk thread of all places, isn't it.

>>9844418
>>9844445
>Trickle down works
people actually believe this?
i guess the propaganda has been really effective.

>>9844420
>saving the government billions for launch services

if the government wasnt determined to give tax money to private corporations instead of doing the work itself we could have the same for even less money.

>>9844457
"when it comes to technology" it does work you stupid ideologue

>>9844467
1/10 troll, you almost convinced me up to now

>>9844467

baseless speculation, government is not exactly known for efficiency as there is little incentive to keep costs in check

>>9844478
>politicians have no incentive to keep government efficient because its more profitable to give tax money to private corporations

ftfy

>>9844472
>trickle down does work
>t.boot-licker

>>9844457
...he said, posting from a computer

>>9844494
The only somewhat efficient heavily-government-run economies have been fascist.

>>9844571
or we could just lynch corrupt politicians... i could go either way with it.

>>9844567
do not respond to communists
they are too retarded to manage debate

>>9844595
he'll never concede the debate obviously but maybe getting thrashed will discourage him from coming here

>>9844595
>>9844600
>not worshiping unrestrained capitalism = communism

do you people even hear yourselves?

>>9844609
socialism is just watered down communism, the idiots who advocate either of them fall from the same tree

>>9844660
>socialism is just all the aspects of civilization that require cooperation to achieve anything one person cant accomplish alone
ftfy

you can go back to spouting your anarcho-capitalism fantasies on /pol now if you want since that's the place it belongs.

>>9844668
>socialism is le perbect socieby and bakes ebrybing berfect

>>9844686
no, but literally every civilization has used socialism to rise out of the mud and rocks into anything worth remembering.

>>9844567
Computers and the internet are military projects. That means taxpayer funded, kek. You just btfo'd yourself.

>>9844690
more like nations that became prosperous due to capitalism start implementing socialism and suffer for it

>>9844328
>how he is going to do them differently to make them succeed.
He already made them succeed, idiot. You are going into the absurd to justify your jealousy-driven dislike of the man.

>>9844186
>luck is just as much a factor in success as knowledge and skill
Luck is a factor, but nobody gets anywhere in life without knowledge, skill and hard work. You're here bitching on /sci/ and not out there having original ideas and working your ass off. That's why you won't succeed. Not "luck". As for genetics, well, what the fuck do you think you are? Some aethereal ghost in a physical shell? No, you're the product of those genetics. If you're innately shit, then you're innately shit. It's tied to the very definition of (You), there is no seperating the two. If there was a version of you that wasn't shit, it wouldn't be you but somebody else.

>>9844805
Yes, the personal computer was developed, manufactured and delivered to you by the military.

And just in case you didn't know, the vast majority of military or government projects in general are developed and built by private enterprise. The government is just a customer. If the government is in charge of the development process itself, you usually just end up in development hell.

>>9844328
Didn't this chick bitch out men for there being too many single mothers?

Doesn't an argument that weak just cancel out every argument you have?

>>9844914
>government pays people to do things they wouldn't do in a pure free unregulated capitalist market
>this isn't socialism

>>9844896
>king taxes the citizens
>pays people to build roads/castles/ports/navies
>this isnt socialism

lmfao keep it coming boot-lickers

>/sci/ bashes economists

>argues about economics on the same level as 8th graders

nothing to see here folks

>>9844958
I wasn't aware that the presence of a government and tax system makes a country socialist
you learn something new every day

>>9840110
>>9840227

>>9840272
eh, 17hr starting on the floor in factory with only h.s education is not bad. I know the higher ups get stock options, which historically have become very valuable. Engineering is magic in the way it makes thoughts and idea into reality. But like anything else its flooded with asians,

>>9844958
>government pays privately owned and managed corporations for goods/services instead of directly organizing the process
>socialism
nigger

>>9844958
Yasssss sister kill em!!! These incel bootlickers dont know shit bout nothin lol

>>9844970
Umm ??? Just ignore the racist history of economics I guess? Ok hun :)

I TRIED TO WARN YOU
BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN

>>9844970
yeah when the /pol crowd rolls through you have to drop the sophistication to low levels for them to have a chance at comprehension.

>>9845841
>merely pretending

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Engineering is a product of the combination of chaos and order within the mind via the logos. By taking what is known and subjecting it to the onslaught of that which is unknown, creation becomes possible. It is not engineering to follow a diagram and contribute nothing unless you wish to describe the construction of Ikea furniture as "engineering". It is engineering to recognize a problem and grapple with the realm of the unknown to extract via your rationality a solution which may be unioned with the whole of human experience. Once a man engineers a single skyscraper, the world forever changes.

>>9845845
you have to realize something... the propaganda in America is strong. These people dont even understand that public roads, and fire-men, and police, and utilities infrastructure, and the military, and many many other things that make civilization possible are examples of socialism. You really are dealing with the lowest of low information people, so you do have to speak to them in the vernacular, and in the modes they will understand.

>>9844805

>Computers and the internet are military projects. That means taxpayer funded, kek. You just btfo'd yourself.

It started as a military project. But computers and the internet for the public as we know them today exist primarily thanks to private enterprise and their ability to innovate and reduce costs. Imagine the stagnation if computer hardware and software was only manufactured by the government..

>>9845863
the initial investment to create the infrastructure and technology for the internet was a bridge too far for private investment. At the beginning there was no market for the product, and no clear way to spin the technology into anything you could make a buck off of. You can thank socialism for the internet, for the government taking a little from everyone to do things for everybody that no one person can or would do themselves.

>>9845874

Many socialists strongly reject the notion that "government doing things" is socialism.

>>9844571
>The Soviet Union did not exist
Why are retards so retarded?

>>9845848
to be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand socialism

>>9843669
Lol.

>>9846478
>efficient
go home commie

he's a Juggalo, uh oh

>>9846522
Can't tell if sarcasm

>>9840272
If his workers are underpaid, then why don't they quit?