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Dear /sci/,

My aspiration in life is to be the Thomas Edison of medicine. I am most interested in medical physics and I envision myself improving medical imaging so I can meaningful contributions to the study of neurophysiology which can then be used to cure the neurodegenerative diseases that haunt humanity.

I am rising junior at a top university studying physics. I've done courses up to classical mechanics and completed the calculus sequence, along with linear algebra. I have also taken intro chemistry and biology courses.

However, I know if I am to take my scientific pursuits to the next level and really change the world I need to revamp my studies. This summer I have been studying neuroscience and organic chemistry and am doing very well and am almost complete with introductions to these subjects.

However, I have difficulty figuring out how many subjects I can realistically study at a time and what progression I should be doing. My big problem is I don't have a PROGRAM for how I am studying.

I have a vision for where I want to go, but I am not sure what exactly is the road I will take to go there. Because my goals and medical physics are so multidisciplinary, I obviously have a lot to study.

However, I would like to get /sci/'s idea on how and what I should be studying over a timeline. My biggest worry is that I'm studying with too much width and breadth.

Can /sci/ lend me some advice on how to turn my vision into reality. I really enjoy working. I know every page read, every problem solved and failed takes me one step closer to my vision.

Thanks in advance,
anon hungry for success

>> No.9837364
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9837364

>>9837363
Also, share your study routines ITT too

>> No.9837369

>>9837363
Get off 4chan and study, faggot!

>> No.9837376

Try looking into gene editing. It may or may not become the biggest shit in the future.

>> No.9837388

What routines are you thinking about doing OP?
Also >>9837369, the less time you spend here the better. Good luck.

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>>9837369
This is my 45 minute recreational internet break for the day

>>9837376
This is part of problem I have. How do I study all these vast-spanning topics in an effective and meaningful manner?

I am still committed to improving how we see body - especially having a better way to see metabolic processes in real time. Genes could achieve this from a much more molecular level though.

>>9837388
I am not sure. I am kind of just thinking of studying two subjects at a time and studying them very intensely until I am done and can teach the lessons to random people. However, I am concerned that I am not using really any time to improve my physics and math skills this Summer when I'm studying subjects that I will never have coursework and might not be as necessarily as fundamental to know.

>pic related are my pantheon of scientists I look to for inspiration

>> No.9837415

>>9837363
>thomas edison
>reddit spacing
>signs post
>arnold
Craft your baits better.

>> No.9837429

>>9837415

What makes you say this is bait? Looks like an anon who genuinely wants to do something with his life unlike half you shitfucks whose greatest claim to fame will be anonymously posting fucking frogs on a Senegalese tire repairing forum

>> No.9837955

>>9837363
Based and redpilled

>> No.9838040

>>9837415
>redditor calling others redditors
Tesla was a loser faggot like all of you redditors, while Edison was CHAD

>> No.9838070

>>9837363

I'll give you a good answer if you answer this:

Should we secure the existence of our people and a future for white children

>> No.9838591
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9838591

>>9838070
>>9838070

Yes

>> No.9838617

>>9837415
>reddit spacing
What even is this meme.

>> No.9838647

>>9837363
>mfw neuroscience is for the 21st century what quantium mechanics was for the 20th century

>> No.9838718

"tHomAs EdiSoN"

>> No.9838731

>>9837363
You will fail and here's why:

1) Your goal is fame, not to understand medicine, chemistry, and biology.

2) You are reading only instead of figuring things out for yourself by doing experiments. Reading books only makes you better at reading books. Figuring things out you don't know makes you better at figuring things out you don't know. Furthermore, reading actually stunts your growth because you have no real appreciation for the tricks and methods unless you have tried and failed at them first. You're just going to end up 30, booksmart, and nothing to show for it I guarantee it and I am sorry you've started down such a deluded and probably irreversible at this point path.

>> No.9838880

>>9838731
>You are reading only instead of figuring things out for yourself by doing experiments.
who tf learns science by experiments anymore? there are only so many hours in the day and not all of them can be based on finding the same principles discovered long ago

retarded advice

>> No.9838907

>>9837363
>The Thomas Edison of medicine.
So, are you telling us that you want to be a fraud?

>> No.9838912

>>9838731
>if you desire fame, you can't be a good scientist
"Narcissistic scientists are found everywhere, but their proportion is particularly high in research fields such as immunology and neuroscience, which are in the public's focus and more sensitive to swagger and catchy wording. Narcissistic scientists (and intellectuals in general) have a capacity to attract attention and to fascinate other narcissistic persons, this fascination greatly exceeding their real achievements."

https://www.the-scientist.com/magazine-issue/book-excerpt-from-an-essay-on-science-and-narcissism-32748

Plenty of science, and much of many other fields, have been pushed forward because of the delusions of a narcissist (e.g. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Napoleon, etc.)

>> No.9838916

>>9837363
If you are real and not a troll then consider machine learning and deep learning. We have a lot of anons who are good at math and programming but don't know how to apply it to problems in the medical world.

>> No.9838930

>>9838907
>muh fraud
Everyone's a fucking fraud in science.

Honestly, anon should've gone for a modern Louis Pasteur to describe himself, but he is American so he picked the American version of Pasteur.

Even Pasteur did plenty of fraud as has been since in his notebooks. All the anons here need to quick knocking on anon for dreaming big and virtue signaling about honor and integrity.

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>>9838930
>Everyone's a fucking fraud in science.
>Also implying that Thomas Edison did science.

>> No.9838960

>>9838940
>Thomas edison didn't do science
He was suppose to win the 1915 Nobel Physics Prize with Tesla (as it was leaked out) before Tesla sperged out and said he wouldn't accept the prize if Edison were to receive it too

>> No.9838990

>>9838960
Nice story, he was a scientist as much as Obama a peacemaker.

>> No.9839013

>>9837363
The Thomas Edison of Medicine?

more like the Edwin Hubble of Neck Stubble
(also your mom is the Francis Crick of Thicc)

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9839025

>>9837415
>>9838718
>>9838907
>>9839013
NO BULLY

>> No.9839293

>>9839025
lol cuck

>> No.9839972

>>9839293
no u

>> No.9840173

>>9837363
Nobody sets out to "change the world" or some other meme like this. You find something you're good at and enjoy, and try to push it as far as you can. If this gets you social or financial gains, so much the better, but these shouldn't be your goals.

>> No.9840194

>>9838617
Some people have spent so much time on 4chan that they have forgotten how to properly format a wall of text so reading it isn't a pain in the ass. In consequence, when they see one with proper formatting, they assume it comes from somewhere else and call upon the reddit boogeyman, as they know no other websites besides those mentioned in here.

>> No.9840321

>>9840173
>who is Louis Pasteur

>> No.9840394

>>9838916
Seconding this. It neatly handles two problems at once.

You want to do imaging? You could Make Machines Gud, but after a point you get diminishing returns from technical improvements because some asshole in a labcoat becomes a bottleneck.

You are overwhelmed with the amount of shit to learn? Get good at ML/DL itself, get a broad domain overview and leave the model to deal with low-level wanking over minute details, then just verify your findings against the literature.

>> No.9840571

>>9840321
What about him?

>> No.9840642

>>9840571
His whole reason why he pursued medicine and bacteriology, as he said himself, was to better humanity's condition - not for the sake of fucking learning more about bacteria

>> No.9840644

>>9840394
How do I get into ML/DL when I have no computer experience? Just physics background

>> No.9841036

>>9840644
Same situation, any advice anons?

>> No.9841643

>>9838617
>>9840194
Reddit requires two carriage returns in your post to display a single carriage return for some reason. Redditors get used to this and then use double carriage returns on Guatemalan extreme ironing websites, which makes them incredibly easy to spot.

>> No.9841653

>>9840644
>>9841036
Git gud

>> No.9841667

>>9837363
>Thomas Edison of medicine

Then study management and business.

I'm serious.

The reality of Edison is that, while he certainly had an inventive streak, his greatest work was done managing others. it's the nature of history from early America to remember it all as being done "by" Edison, but no one seriously believes that anymore. does that diminish his talent? No, it's just that his true talent was never understood correctly in the first place.

The same could be said for people like Shockley - though he was legitimately ill, crazy motherfucker, probably took more credit then he deserved, hence the founding of Intel - and many other greats.

All those people were "of their times," came to understand the cutting edge as it existed, and found the ways in which it could be pushed through the direction of efforts, not necessarily through their own efforts.

You also have to remember that shit was easier back in Edison's time. not to say that finding your way in the dark is ever easy, hindsight is 20/20, but it's certainly true that science and the innovations that came along with it entered into a simpler world, a more cooperative social climate, and a far more accepting and interested populace not jaded and fearful by the many technological horrors that were yet to come.

If you want to be one of those kind of people then - find a technical discipline, focus the shit out of it, then go get an MBA. and MBA + Masters/PhD puts you into R&D management, which is what you you're looking for.

now to give you some shit -

>Top university
>Physics Junior
>Has only finished Linear Algebra and Class Mech

if you weren't through the full analysis sequence and onto Diff. Geo. by end of Junior year, you weren't even considered for Graduate scouting. pick your shit up.

>> No.9841680

>>9840194
If you format with two presses on enter you are a dumb slob.

>> No.9841784

>>9841653
how to git gud?

>> No.9842225

autism

you post on 4chan its over

>> No.9842720

>>9840194
https://writingcenter.unc.edu/tips-and-tools/paragraphs/
Youre mentally challenged

>> No.9843135

>>9841784
read sticky

>> No.9843678

>>9843135
sticky sucks

>> No.9843691

>>9837363
You should work backward from your intended goal. There are a few obvious directions when it comes to medical imaging. The first is in development of tracers. The second is entrepreneurial venture in trying to bring costs down in imaging devices such as MRI and machines of the like. You would save a lot of lives if you could do that.

>> No.9843716

>>9838731
This guy knows what he's talking about

>> No.9844743

>>9837363
just post frogs faggot you'll never do anything better with your life

>> No.9844758

>>9837363
Steps to be edison
1. Find a guy with really smart Ideas and then you steal them from him.
2. Build a buisness around that Idea and focus on marketing and hiring other smart people.
3. You need some elephants eventually you will find a rival and you must use his invention to torture elephants to turn the world against him.
4. Become famous for something you didn't make.

>> No.9844829

It'll be difficult to steal from top biotech and pharma companies, especially they never publish research they don't need to

>> No.9845022

>>9837363
>>9837399
You can't. We're basically at the point where, in order to make further advancements and progress in a given field, you need more knowledge than your can be managed and explored in a lifetime. This is called research debt. There's just too much to learn.

>> No.9845607

>>9844758
>>9844829
hack the pharma companies

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>>9841643
How is even knowing this not a million times more reddit than 'muh reddit spacing'?

>>9842720
I was actually gonna read that and see why you think I'm wrong, anon. Seriously. But then I saw pic related and realized your link probably doesn't say I'm wrong so I'm not wasting my time.

>> No.9846422

>>9838070
Go back to /pol/, idiot.

>> No.9846429

>>9838731
>Reading actually stints your growth

[citation needed]

>> No.9847584

>>9846429
>/lit/

>> No.9848585

>>9847584
they dont actually read though

>> No.9848896

>>9845680
Youre wrong because the currently accepted convention of writing in the english speaking world is to use paragraphs to format large sections of text into easier to read chunks, not double space every line. Double spacing is annoying to read and constitutes improper grammar.