/sci/ - Science & Math

get a master's and then PhD

Become a McDonald's chef.

>>9834464
Time to die

>>9834467
>>9834466

I'm getting some mixed messages here

>>9834470

Start a burger chain called PhD's

>>9834472
Ah, my mistake. This sounds good, got any other options in case this doesn't work out?

>>9834470
BSc in science is fucking useless unless you want to be a low tier engineer. go for masters and phd or enlist as an officer

>>9834476
I dunno, the other guy's plan to open a burger chain called PhD's sounds more reasonable.

>>9834475

It will work out.

>>9834467

>>9834464
You should have thought of that before you started on the BS

>>9834464
You stop thinking and just do whatever your master tells you to do.
Really.
You made it this far accepting their lies why not go all the way.
Oh you think what you were told is true?
Then answer this question:
What is a snowflake plus one?
Good luck.

>>9834479
Welcome to PhD's! Home of the PhD Burger! Can I take your order?

>>9835176
One PhD Burger please

>>9834464
Shave all your body hair and sign up an account on chaturbate.

>>9834464
>physics is foundation for every engineering known to a human
>what do I do now
Holy fucking shit. Did you even learn anything?
t. BSc in physics and masters in technics with IT since there were too few people to start physics group

>>9834476
cant even get an engineering job with a physics major. im sure intel and lockheed martin really care about tensors and wave mechanics

>>9834470
Well I remember the time that one anon has a Phd. In nuclear physics that is working in Mcdonalds.

>>9835232
One PhD, anon. Enjoy.

engineering bud

open the burger chain, sell small burgers as BSC , middle ones as MSC , big ones as PhDs ,

make an extra large one and variations such as the Fields Medalist, the Nobel prize (with different categories)

this idea is so autistic it might just work out if your burgers dont taste like actual shit

>>9834464
Dont get a job, shouldnt be too hard

>>9834464
If you're asking now, you're screwed.

Graduating in August, already watching applications get denied daily. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.

>>9835148

This is nothing personal. I just have been reading /sci/ for the last few weeks and the low quality pictures are getting to me everywhere across the board.

How hard is it to spend 10 minutes creating something unique and semi-qualityish...

>pic related

>>9834464
is this bait?

>>9834472
Kek

>>9837335
How is physics and science different?

>>9837350
Science includes natural and social sciences technically and a few other areas besides physics.

>>9834464
Become a teacher.
t. also graduating with a BSC in physics soon

>>9835395
you know that they will fight for you if you have PhD in nuclear physics, right?

>>9834464
What was your GPA? You could get a free ride into grad school if you did really well, assuming you want to work in academia.

>>9837839
Oh Anon. My dear, sweet Anon. Who's been lying to you?

>>9837841
Why bother? He'll be earning shit in post docs until he's 40 and the kill himself when his latest lectureship application comes back rejected.

This is our fate. At least we can leave a few quality Nature publications behind.

>>9837847
I got MSc in physics of condensed matter, it's lower than nuclear physics and I already have lots of requests in private companies and universities, I don't know abou the US but in here as soon as you get your degree, the governement put your CV in the job market and you just wait for the letters

>>9837855
>condensed matter, it's lower than nuclear physics
No its not. There's a small demand for mat sci lab monkeys in some european countries. Nuclear physics is unemployable at the moment since the boomers didn't retire like they were supposed to.,

>I don't know about the US but in here as soon as you get your degree, the governement put your CV in the job market and you just wait for the letters
Wow, nice country desu. Doesn't happen anywhere else on the planet that I know of.

>>9837858
well even supposing that nuclear degree is shit, with a PhD you can still work in multiple universities, just tutoring and get lots of money; I mean let's be realistic in here

>>9837859
>with a PhD you can still work in multiple universities, just tutoring and get lots of money; I mean let's be realistic in here

Man, you haven't been exposed to the job market yet have you? There are hundreds of PhDs vying for every academic job.

> just tutoring and get lots of money; I mean let's be realistic in here
You can't tutor for a career. And it's only a lot of money if you aren't used to real full time salaries.

>>9834464
Find some Joo connections and go to Israel to make guns. Establish connections, and try to establish the White Ethnostate.

>>9837867
I'm saying this because I remember in my BSc I had a professor who had a Phd in nuclear physics, and he was tutoring a subject about nuclear fission and fusion and also works as the head manager of the Physics BSc degree, but he had like 20 years of experience in the field

I mean a degree is a degree, if you have good experiences and know the job market well, you can get yourself into something

>>9834464
Here's some serious advice - while you are on top of your physics game, take your state teaching certificate subject test - Physics teachers are *always* in demand and if you stick with it you actually can make good money and retire early. It may not be your plans in your early 20s, but a HS physics teacher has an easy job and usually gets to teach the cream of the crop - the only trick to teaching is you need to get in early for the pension plans to work in your favor.

Ignore 99% of the shitposters in here.

>t. retiring in 15 years at ~100k a year for life (yea, those maths work out well for gaming the system)

>>9838104
>gets to teach the cream of the crop
?????????

>>9838106
Best kids in the school - you actually get to teach the kids that are high achievers - vs say the middle school social studies teachers....

Not to mention, at least in the states you can use the STEM meme to your advantage - if you are actually a good teacher, you can get lots of grants, etc. Sure it's a little work to apply, but trust me, in a school if you bring in a 15k grant you are a serious boss - and once you know the game it's super easy to get grants. If you become a 'money maker' for a school no one gives you any shit.

Or you can spend your life as a desk monkey fighting the wave after wave of cheap Indian imports...

>>9838130
The situation is probably different in the US then, where I live HS is populated mainly by a bunch of mongoloids, except maybe in some specific schools, but they are so few that it is virtually impossible to teach there (also, in my country, you can't even choose where to teach, and it does not matter whether you're the best student in the country or or the worst one, the only thing that's accounted for is the time spent on the job and whether you are married. Most people need to wait like 15 years before they can move, and with a shitty fixed pay that barely improves over time. There is no good teachers officially, only teachers. All on the exact same level (or nearly so)). Jewrope is a joke

>>9838130
Get school funding to do your own experiments? Free volunteers?

>>9838142
Yea - I'm talking about US schools - Physic teachers are in very high demand, in most states you can even skip/delay the licensing requirements and start teaching right away, with idea of finishing the Ed classes over the next 5 or so years (and they are *very* easy). The average LARPer on /sci/ might laugh, but I'm also kicking back for the next 2 months while they slave away...

>>9838163
I mean, it depends on what your 'experiments' are, but if you have an interest in things like basic physics (think mechanics, E&M, etc) you can certainly play around with things. I frequently build out 'school year projects', say building a weather balloon, where we build all the payload components, program the devices, etc and launch a few times in the spring. There's lots of funding for things like 3D printers and shit out there (granted you gotta hustle, but thats the game) - most teachers sit on their hands complaining the district doesn't give them funding - write some grants yourself & you've got money to spend.

Once you get your shit wired you can have a ton of fun teaching kids with minimal effort and lots of enjoyable work - again, assuming you are into it. It's an in-demand profession.

>>9835389
this.
turns out knowing how to do a bunch of integrals and tensor manipulations by hand is completely useless irl!

>>9834468
No, suicide comes after the PhD

Being a neet is your fate.

>>9838238
How does applying for a grant even work? I had never heard of such a thing.

>>9838563
>How does applying for a grant even work?
By first being a fully tenured professor with a long track record for delivering quality research output.

They don't award grants to anyone without titles.

>>9834464
Meanwhile, I’m here with a 100k starting petroleum refinery job.

t. Chem Eng

>>9838104
>advocates becoming a HS teacher
>universally known to be one of the worst jobs imaginable
>wage slave for decades for 100k
The height of your ambition is staggering.

>>9838602
what you do?

>>9838602
You have to live in Saudi Arabia mate

>>9838619
Like you aren't working at McDonalds LARPing on here about your advanced degree... at least I'm being honest.

And just to be clear - that's 100k in pension payments, for life, without working... it's how teacher pensions work if you can do a little maths...

>>9838619
>>universally known to be one of the worst jobs imaginable
Lol at this meme... sure, working at an inner city Middle school probably really sucks. But with a Physics cert, shit son.. I just pulled up at least 10 solid positions in my state in really good districts, and thats just a quick look - land in a good district and you might have one shitty class a day, if you want to be ambitious get your Math teaching cert, teach Calc as well & you could only be dealing with the best kids in the school.

>>9838571
Not in K-12... God the ignorance on this board is staggering... there are *lots* (again, in the States) of 'STEM' grants, as this is the latest educational meme. You can easily get $5k to $15k grants for 'classroom equipment' - school admins love this shit, as it reduces their budget and if you do it often enough they don't fuck with you - don't bite the hand that feeds...

OP isn't in the US tho, so sucks for him.

>>9838679
>teach Calc
but I though burgers didn't learm calculus in high school.

In quebec tho you can teach calc 1, 2 and 3 in cegep (school before university) so that can be a good deal for you canadafags.

>>9838238
That's exactly what I was thinking. Well maybe a little more cutting edge, think cavendish experiment or photoelectric effect. Building the equipment for such an experiment would be fun.

>>9838533
the fuck m8

>>9838691
Good districts/states offer calc - if they don't its prob because they can not get someone to teach it.

>>9838994
Man, cutting edge in HS Physics is getting the kids to *make* things - want to do something cool? Figure out a way to have kids participate in building it. Schools cream their pants for someone like that... granted, you better back it up...

>>9839315
Don't worry about that, I'm a /diy/ kinda guy.
That means I never get anything done and complain about boomers and shipping containers all day.

>>9838999
See, you can daley facing reality and have access to hot college girls for years, but once you have your PhD you realize you are 30 something, have no actual skills, massive debt, and a bad health due to the stress of the PhD program.

Same desu.. I have a Physics degree with a shit GPA and I'm seriously considering getting a Masters degree in engineering by coursework.. What are the pros and cons of this?

Apparently black schools have trouble hiring teachers. Especially in science.

>>9841631
>black schools
Must suck to have such a thing in your country in the first place, burgers.

>>9838602
Bro, I'd rather kill myself than reduce my years of expertise to a shitty job like that. No offense.

>>9838533
DnD at Nerd Central is fucking hardcore

>>9840239
whats your gpa

>>9834464
The question is what CAN you do?

>>9841687
I'm pretty sure that I can do everything

Get a Masters or Ph.D

Tutor/Become a Physics/Math Teacher

Develop some kind of skill set (Coding, etc.)

>>9841655
>He gets to do actual STEM work for a living
>The moet serious discussion ITT for using a physics degree is to teach HS for a living

Let's be honest. The job market is so shitty that 90% of us won't get a STEM job even with physics PhDs or engineering degrees.

We can at least mire the people who do.

Dude you're not a physicist if you know some physics and do not get excited

>>9841716
In my country atleast, being a professional researcher (or a physicist for that matter) really isn't hard at all, the problem is that most people just aren't cut out for it and for various reasons don't pursue the academic route. When you enroll into a reasonably funded PhD program your monthly stipend is alredy higher than the national average.

I created this thread just for shits and giggles, lol.

>>9834464
Masters in stats then finance

>Physics
you are absolutely fucked mate. Choose engineering or math, physics is the awkward retard in between that never gets hired.