/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9828014
[math] \rm \bf RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111e^{1488\pi i} [/math]

>>9828017
I told you about those goddamn feelings.

>>9828014
Anon the big problem with eugenics is that only the strongest, handsomest Chads will be able to find a suitable mate. Not like the current system at all

>>9828020

>>9828014
>muh feelings
Try "muh revolution"

I think the only way to impliment something similar today would be to do it as a tax cut per child up to the target number of children (presumably 1 each/2 per couple) which would be forfeit if you exceed said number. Even then you'd face a massive uphill battle to pass that legislation and it would probably have to accompany massive tax reforms to prevent the rich from abusing it

>>9828014
Supported
Degenerate white rednecks must go

>>9828014
In current state of the West, government-controlled pregnancies would lead to more black and brown babies because of diversity quotas. Whites and Asians would be allowed one child, which is below replacement rate.

>>9828014
>Getting pregnant is so easy starving mud farmers did it for all of human history
>Government is somehow going to enforce laws against it

Not gonna happen.

>>9828014
OP, can I be there when you announce to the undesirables that they are undesirable?
I've never seen a mob rip a person apart before.

>>9828014
Well, if you're somebody who doesn't like getting told what to do, or you belong to an ethnic or religious group that has rivalries with ethnic and religious groups that control the government, or even if you've got bad blood with some papee pusher bureaucrat in charge of this, it's a bad thing for your self interest. The problem with government is that it isn't some magical impartial entity, it is composed of individual humans with individual human self-interest and individual human stupidity.

You would be better off just giving everyone a battery of intelligence tests when they enter high school, and offer anyone in the bottom 25% a decent hunk of money (say $15 to 20 thousand, with an option to get money when they turn 18, in case parents are dicks) to get sterilized. Also offer smaller amounts of money to stupid girls willing to do long term birth control, like IUDs. And the same for boys, once something similar is invented. Vasagel looks promising.

This system would likely end up saving the government money, by cutting down on future welfare recipients & crime, and the voluntary nature would not inspire as much butthurt about it.

>>9828014
How much do you trust the government to make consistently good decisions?

My general opinion of their track-record makes me somewhat leery when it comes to handing them more power.

>>9828303
This. If UBI is ever a thing, I would even go as far as to suggest that it should be offered conditional on sterilization. That way the portion of the population that is too dumb to use birth control doesn't spiral out of control in a couple of generations, beyond the capacity of the system.

>iq
not science

>>9828350
>soft, voluntary, indirect sterilization programs will raise the national IQ
Lad, you need border control first and foremost.

>>9828014
>Crime would fall by importing millions of refugees from third world countries, because the birthrates are so low.
>The government knows how to properly control nature. Please ignore the Dust Bowl, Holodomor, Hurricane Katrina, etc.

>>9828014
>government controlled pregnancy
The downside is not everyone is a bootlicking authoritarian as yourself.