/sci/ - Science & Math

>So many weeks ago I went to see a cognitive behavioral therapist (this is already the fifth psychotherapist that I've seen) and I decided to cancel my second appointment with her because I'm still not entirely sure what CBT is, and how to objectively, scientifically measure how effective it is (if it is even possible for a patient to objectively, scientifically measure how effective psychotherapy is). I had to find a new CBTherapist because my previous CBTherapist bailed on me (she threatened to take legal actions against me if I didn't stop trying to contact her). I also currently have a 7cups therapist who seems cool and all, but she tends to only send two responses per day (two responses per day is apparently her "quota") and some days she doesn't respond at all.
>So can anyone here explain to me what the hell CBT actually is? I've been reading up a bit on it and it basically just seems to me like a real fancy way to describe brainwashing. Like CBTherapists just take any "negative" thoughts you might have, and then twist them around into positives.
>I've been doing some reading and read that CBT only works for the first six months after therapy has ended. But after those first six months, the patient develops the same symptoms again and then they end up returning to therapy. I've read that psychodynamic therapy is more effective than CBT, and that CBT is mainly just one big scam.
>I was also going to see a Lacanian-Freudian psychoanalytic therapist that same month that I met with the CBTherapist but I had to cancel my appointment with him because I was already running low on funds after paying my CBTherapist, my psychiatrist, and paying for my psychotropic medications that my psychiatrist is prescribing to me. My psychiatrist is currently prescribing to me Remeron, Abilify, and Adderall for the treatment of major depressive disorder, social anxiety disorder, generalized anxiety disorder, and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
what's the tl;dr?

>>9800608

What the hell is cognitive behavioral therapy, how effective is it, and how do I as a patient go about objectively, scientifically measuring how helpful a particular psychotherapist is?

>>9800611
>I've read that psychodynamic therapy is more effective than CBT, and that CBT is mainly just one big scam.

Where did you read that?


And i think the idea is that its not a cure. you have to keep applying the same practises and continually developing them for it to be effective. Even after youve stopped seeing a therapist. One problem with it is its effortful so often people drop out or stop.

Plus, all therapy is in effect brainwashing... Its changing the way you think and feel. Maybe you should look at it the other way round. Brainwashing is a special case of changing thought patterns. Psychoanalysis would be classed as that too.

And no its not possible to objectively measure i think. Therapists might work better with certain patients and certain patients will react differently to treatment. Im guessing more experienced ones are more likely to be better though.

You will end up with really healthy dopaminergenic system after this.

>paying for medical treatment
Where do you live, in some 3rd world shithole? LOL

Also why are you pestering your therapists via phone? Just go to your appointments.

>>9800881

I ask about this because my previous therapist did not seem to be very good but I kept seeing her for a total of six sessions (amounting to $600).

On my first session with her she seemed quirky, quick-witted, and even came off as mildly immature. She interrupted me several times by saying what she assumed I was about to say. After she interrupted me for about the fifth or sixth time, she started laughing.

During the second session she seemed like an almost completely different person. Her appearance was radically different, like she was trying to pull of a "mature" or even "wise" look. She also came off as slightly bitchy. She seemed mostly bored or even annoyed as she kept sighing a lot throughout the session. At some point I started talking about something that I felt was relevant in regards to my family, like how they seem largely anti-science because whenever I start talking to them about science-related topics (whether they be about: genetics, neurology, mental illness, astronomy, etc.) they tend to get unusually defensive and start talking about God like how I was somehow offending him.

At that point my therapist then cut me off and said something like: "Right. Science. You're really big on science. You're Mr. Science Man."

That was just so weird and random, I just responded with: "Uhhh... yeah." And I didn't bother finishing the point that I was trying to make. I remember thinking to myself: "The hell was that about? That was kind of bitchy. Did she do that on purpose? Is she testing me somehow? Or maybe she's just religious and she felt offended. This might get awkward. I'm not exactly sure how this is supposed to help me overcome social anxiety."

In the third session I could swear that she must've been high as fuck on Adderall.

I kind of feel like I should have just dropped her after the first session. I really got the feeling that she was scamming me out of my money and that she was fully aware that she was scamming me.

>>9800606
>Psychology, psychiatry, and/or other mental health care

>>9800606
Why the actual fuck are you communicating with your therapist multiple times a day? That's fuckin weird my dude.

>>9801248

Huh? You mean communicating with my 7cups therapist? 7cupsoftea is a web site where you can chat with a real therapist through text messaging on your phone. You can chat with them 24/7 but they have a quota of only two responses per day.

>>9800606
Psychology is a pseudoscience and Freud was a hack who wanted to bang his mom.

>>9801454
>Psychology is a pseudoscience and Freud was a hack who wanted to bang his mom.

Psychology is too broad a subject to make this kind of statement.

Most psychologists will agree that freud was wrong about almost everything.

>>9801220
Is that what therapy is like lul? My little sister will be a better listener than this bitch.

>>9802997

>Is that what therapy is like lul?

That was what therapy was like with my third therapist and she was probably the most immature, unprofessional, irresponsible, rude therapist out of all five therapists that I’ve had. My second therapist wasn’t all that great, either. My 7cups therapist is just okay, but I’ve already cancelled my subscription to 7cups due to me being disappointed with its slow service. My first and fifth therapists I only met with one time each.

>>9800606
>Freudian

>>9803784

So Lacanian-Freudian psychoanalytic therapy is bullshit?

Somebody here on /sci/ suggested to me last year that I go to a Lacanian-Freudian psychoanalytic therapist. I had never heard of such a thing but it seemed sort of interesting at the time.