/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9798190

what do you mean by "similar"?

based on intelligent design, probability 1

>>9798191
Like, are they humanoid in shape?

aliens are just magic for educated people

>>9798194

dunno. But if you e.g. consider fish and humans similar ( in quite some regards they are, both being chordata) then i'd nearly bet on yes. E.g. i'd think the'd be roughly symmetrical.

>>9798190
Hard to tell, since we're obviously the only example we can use. But we've had a lot of intelligent species living on this planet, and only one of them has developed civilisations.
And if we consider the different factors that let us develop to that level- from opposable thumbs, to our position on the food chain, to our slow maturity rate, to even just basic things like living on land where making fire and smelting metal is possible- It's likely they'll look roughly like us if we ever find them.

>>9798190
we are still having a hard time determining what intelligence is without "cultural factors" getting in the way.

but I think occams razor, and the "Efficieny of nature" I think would both imply that they would look like humans.

but then again they could look like dolphins, since they are intelligent to.
or crows, since they are intelligent as well.

theres alot of animals that arent human that have an equal capacity for "intelligence.

a creature we could understand might have the same amount of nitrogenous bases.

>>9798370
>>9798396
interesting...…..

>>9798190
limbs are pretty useful. so yes.

>>9798190
50%; they either are or they aren't

>>9798190
Convergent evolution

>>9798690
You don't know how evolution works, I'm afraid.

>>9798190

Any morphology that not only makes it possible to adapt to, but also to manipulate the planet of origin, would be very likely for alien species to inhabit. We only know of our planet that houses a innteligent species as us, therefore a specie that is close to our inntelect would definitevly have to be similar, with minor variations as is with us. If we presume that the specie has followed the same path as us, ie- single celled organism to space faring specie, then there is no reason to think that other species arent pretty similar to us. In fact, i would not be surprised if it would be possible for us to interbreed, atleast in some stage of the development of our species, given the information that i posses at this moment.
But what do i know, im a CS student

>>9799235
Lmao, just stick to CS.

>>9799254
Stay mad mathfag

>>9798190
The convergent evolution argument doesn't really apply aliens since aliens could be different on a biochemical. They could have different amino acids and ribonucleic acids, maybe they don't use lipids or something. Maybe there's no tree-like organisms so they had to evolve differently than people.
Any most of all, they're probably going to be from an alien environment, completely different conditions. Maybe they're not carbon based or water loving.
Use your imagination.
Hot Jupiters could have life floating in in the atmosphere in pockets. There's just no way that life would look like humans.

Not very likely. A “head” for sensory functions coupled with a “brain” to process sensory inputs and limbs that can manipulate objects are probably all you can count on.

>>9799382
Careful, you don't want to trigger the convergent evolution fags.

>>9799382
but what if they're a hivemind or look like giant amoebas?
what if they have extremely slow metabolisms so they don't actually move they just secrete chemicals over a long period of time and that's how they interact with their environment

What if they’re all GAY

>living on land for fire
>some kind of hands for using tools
>warm-blooded for bigger brain
probably something vaguely humanoid, but with ugly face so that you can't fuck them sorry

>>9799388
Its the most realistic. You can dream up shit as much as you want, chances are, youre wrong

>>9798624
0%, aliens don't exist.

>>9798190
They could be a species with distributed intelligence just like the octopus. Each arm would have its own intelligence and move without communication with the head.

The important questions are: Are they near us for practical travel? Are they technologically superior? If they are near us and are technologically superior, is rerouting an asteroid and then accelerating it to a crash course with the Earth the optimal solution? What would their genes tell them to do? I think the most likely outcome is that they are machines, hopefully with true consciousness and they just observe us, protecting their creators within virtual paradises.

>>9799456
Apparently u don’t know me

Think of all the different kinds of life on earth. Alien life would probably just like strange animals and plants just like we have here.

>this thread

>>9799403
They would still need a few basic features for intelligence to be of any survival value to them. As far as we can tell from life on Earth, a hive mind requires that each individual have it’s own copy of the hive mind and all it’s directives in it’s brain and isn’t so much a collective intelligence as it is that every individual is compelled towards the right functions at the proper times based on all individuals responding to stimuli.

Anything amorphous like an amoeba would still have to experience environmental pressures that demanded intelligence with some sort of nerve clusters to process data and bodily structures (no matter how blobby) to utilize that intelligence.

>>9798190
They are probably going to have an anatomy that allows them to do fine-motoric tasks easily, e.g. fingers or something similar like tentacles, and they are also probably going to have advanced communication skills. A development of a civilization without these two set of skills seems not really possible.

>>9799456
>>9799287
>>9798396
>>9798370

What kind of memes do you think they'd come up with?

>>9799460
Brainlet.

>>9799599
Im smarter than you

>>9799605
You certainly don't seem so.

>>9799697
What makes you come to that assumption?

>this thread
The memes are true. /sci/ are ultra-brainlets when it comes to biology.

>>9799382

As well as body parts analogous to mouths and anuses.

>>9799287
>water loving
Like the dolphin.

>>9799491
(Insert Mexican immigration joke here)

>>9798370
>It's likely they'll look roughly like us if we ever find them.
Eerily similar possibly, but I doubt they could be so close that you'd mistake one for a human.
I think the parts would probably be in roughly the same set of places, like noses, ears, eyes.

I guess the limbs could be different if very early on, like if when their dominant group first moved on to land came from a waterbound creature with 6 fins that evolved into 6 limbs.

Maybe the shape could be very different if something that looks like a squid moved up on land and then started a civilization.

>>9798370

>only one of them has developed civilizations

What about ants?

Anyone here ever read The Black Cloud? I would recommend it