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i.e., "God tier: topology; shit tier: optimization", etc.

>> No.9781364

>mathematics
This is not well-defined.

>> No.9781386

>>9781357
Godtier: Finance
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Shit Tier: Anything math/science related.

>> No.9781409

>>9781357
Analysis is shit-tier.

>> No.9781480

>>9781357
God: Langlands Program

Top: Functional Analysis, Class Field Theory, Mathematical Statistics, Combinatorics, Arithmetic Geometry, Algebraic Topology, Convex Analysis

Mid: Probability, Partial Differential Equations, Analytic Number Theory, Algebraic Geometry, Measure Theory

Low: Point-Set Topology, Logic

Shit: Numerical Analysis

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>>9781357
What kind of mathematician has the biggest dicks? Has there been any research on the matter?

>> No.9781490

Top tier: Anything actually applicable in finance or science.

>> No.9781522

>>9781490
you cant just lump all of mathematics into one tier like that

>>9781357
god tier: algebra and fields related to algebra
shit tier: analysis and fields related to analysis

>> No.9781523

>>9781364
The board is called "science and mathematics"
The board is called not called "Well-defined"
>>>/retards/

>> No.9781577

>>9781480
how tf are you putting numerical analysis on shit tier but partial differential equations on mid-tier?

numerical analysis encapsulates partial differential equations.

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>>9781577
>numerical analysis encapsulates partial differential equations.

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God tier: Statistics

>> No.9781813

>>9781483
wtf lool

>> No.9781822

>>9781357
wrong use of ie, should be eg

>> No.9781833

god tier:
>Algebraic geometry
>Algebraic number theory

top tier:
>Algebraic topology
>Commutative algebra for its own sake
>Differential geometry
>Differential topology

Medium tier:
>point-set topology
>analytic number theory

Trash tier:
>knot theory
>measure theory
>PDEs

Shit tier
>statistics
>numerical methods

>> No.9781836

Based on arxiv maths categories:

God tier: AG, AT, QA, CT, DG, GT, KT, SG
Top tier: MP, GR, AC, FA, SP, MG, AC, OA, RT, RA
Mid tier: LO, CO, NT, DS, CV
Low tier: CA, AP, GN, GM, OC, IT
Shit tier: ST, PR, NA, HO

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>>9781836
>not using AMS subject codes

>> No.9781855

>>9781848
Here's your (you), my man

>> No.9781857

Real analysis is a piece of shit. I hate it so much

>> No.9781947

>>9781836
>QA
confirmed pseud

>> No.9781951

>>9781833
only answer in this thread

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>>9781857
>he cannot subtract delta and epsilon
>>>/fit/

>> No.9782097

>>9781357
>God Tier
Philosophy

any below tier any kind of math

>> No.9782115

>>9781357

addition and subtraction god tier

>> No.9782126

>>9781579
you realise that vast majority of p.d.es can't be solved using analytical methods, right? this is literally one of the main reasons why numerical analysis is even a thing

10/10 brainlet

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>>9782126
>caring about the solutions for practical purposes

>> No.9782159

>>9781409
Wtf why?

>> No.9782162

>>9781480
Logic is literally the basis of all science and math, it's God Tier.

>> No.9782169

>>9782162
I think anon is using the criteria of difficulty of the subject. Obviously, you need Logic to undestand Class Field Theory, but that's exactly why CFT is more difficult. You have to understand Logic AND CFT in order to understand CFT.

>> No.9782172

>>9781357
What if I study algebraic topology in an optimization context? Am I shit tier?

>> No.9782173

>>9781357
god tier is linear algebra, calculus, and abstract algebra
>>9782097
>>9782162
kill yourselves

>> No.9782176

>>9781833
>>9781951
>I only studied AG and its pre-reqs; the post.

>> No.9782178

>>9781386
Go back to /biz/ or maybe /his/

> hurr past data is not indicative of future performance but yes it is but no it isn’t

>> No.9782199

>>9781357
why is optimization shit tier tho?

>> No.9782210

>>9782176
actually my master's thesis was on topological k-theory and have taken graduate courses on pdes and analysis

>> No.9782211

>>9782199
I just made that up.

I guess one could argue it is shit tier because you could just study analysis instead.

>> No.9782235

>>9782211
The bleeding edge of optimization research hasn't used much analysis for the last 2 decades.

Also that's like saying algebraic topology is shit tier because you could just study group theory. A field using a more fundamental field doesn't imply you can do research in it purely using the fundamental field.

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>>9781357
Here

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>>9782262
t. retard

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>>9781357

>> No.9782275

>>9782265
these retard wojaks are getting out of hand

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>>9782154

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
PH-PH-PHYSICS SEX, MATH MASTURBATION
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>9782154
>>>/pol/

>> No.9782588

>>9781833
Holy shit, are you me anon?

>> No.9782630

Guys, why are so many people putting Analysis on the Shit Tier? I'm just start a math degree so I don't know much about Analysis, but it always stuck to me as something really important and nice to study, is it actually completely useless in mathematical research?

>> No.9782737

>>9782630
no, it's because real analysis is the hardest first year (freshman in america i think?) course you can take. most people are brainlets that can't handle it.

mathematical analysis is a huge part of modern mathematical research. it counts functional analysis, complex analysis, differential equations and more as subfields.

>> No.9782754

>>9782630
Analysis is the brainlet filter of math, that's why. So basically what >>9782737 said

>> No.9782791

>>9782754
I started my degree off with 170 people in first year. real analysis singlehandedly cut that down to 80 and only that because most of the students transferred to numerical analysis instead.

>> No.9782841

>>9782630
Real analysis is really boring. There are barely any nice results/theorems.

>> No.9782862

>>9781833
>Likes knot theory, but doesn't like algebraic/differential topology
>Doesn't like pde's but like differential geometry
What the fuck is up with this post?

>> No.9782864

>>9782862
Fucked up, should've been
>Doesn't like knot theory, but likes algebraic/differential topology

>> No.9782888

>>9782862
>>9782864

this board is full of undergrads.

>> No.9782892

>>9782630
analysis is bottom feeder tier

this guy >>9782754 is a retard. Analysis takes what you already know, puts it into a definition, works on things that are intuitively obvious, gets some extremely pathological counterexamples noone cares about, and results in telling you what you already knew.

>>9782862
>caring about anything beyond existence and uniqueness
I don't care about where the results came from, I'll use them as I please

>> No.9782948

>>9782892
but that's exactly his point. brainlets find it hard, hence they are filtered out of higher mathematics.

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>> No.9782954

>>9782949
and we have a winner

>> No.9783019

>>9782948
>just because a boring-ass subject is hard, it should not be considered shit tier!!!
>le fucking undergrads xdddddddd

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>>9783019
buttmad algebra baby who couldn't make it analysis detected. I'd be mad too.

>> No.9783089

God tier: my field
Shit tier: your field

>> No.9783135

>>9782235
What's the bleeding edge of it? Is it like, the simplex method?

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>>9781357

>> No.9783280

>>9781483
Topology math niggas have big diq

>> No.9783425

>>9782892
>saying pathological

>> No.9783523

what tier would set theory for its own sake go to?
logic for its own sake?

>> No.9783526

>>9781833
Get out Harvard.

>> No.9783542

>>9783135
>Literally the first development in the field

Yeah, we've made no progress in 70 years.