/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9765942
>Thoughts?
You're not just an idiot, you're an arrogant idiot.
People (both us and the aliens) are likely an incredibly small and insignificant part of the universe, in both space and time.
It wouldn't surprise me a bit if we've never been visited, but how would we even know?

Let's say there's been a million visits to Earth by aliens with the intent of contacting any intelligent life here.
I'm not talking about the occasional fly-by that we might still not detect or recognize.
I'm not talking about stealthy visits to mutilate cattle or probe a few hillbillies.
No, a MILLION "take me to your leader" style visits.
The Earth has been here for 4.6 billion years.
Let's say we only count the post-Hadean era, that's still 4 billion years.
So a million visits would mean one every 4,000 years on average.
All of recorded history is only 6,000 years, so we can expect one, maybe two visits in all of recorded history.
So maybe one or two stories of a god descending from the skies is an actual alien visit, and that's the level of contact I'd expect from a million attempts to contact us in person.

The "great silence" is the result of the inverse square law.
We couldn't pick up broadcasts as powerful as our own at interstellar distances (see link above).

Fermi asked why we can't see any of their "great works", when even today, we still don't have the instruments required to detect a Dyson sphere.

Aside from wondering why aliens haven't set up permanent residence here, there is NO mystery.
It's all just hubris.

>governmental disclosure
The "gubberment secret contact" is a common theme in sci-fi because it lets us believe we are the center of the universe, we are so important that aliens have made contact with us, and not just centuries ago, no, modern society isn't just an insignificant footnote to the universe.

>>9765956
>(see link above).
Oops, forgot link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#We_are_not_listening_properly

>>9765956
>>9765957
You're missing the point.

If your post is the case (and yes I agree with you) then in the future, as I have said in my post, future generations will not even question it, as it will be as well known as earth fire water air aren't magical elements.

Option 2 in my post.

>>9765986
>You're missing the point.
You're missing my point.
You seem to be buying into the whole "mystery" of the Fermi paradox, and assume there's a time in the foreseeable future when we'll have all the answers.
I think there's a decent chance that tool-bearing, intelligent life may be so rare, and interstellar travel so difficult that we'll go extinct before we meet anyone.
Or maybe not, you never know.
But that's just it: we just don't know.

Let's break it down:
First you're stating your speculative opinion as though it were fact:
>Isn't it curious that humanities current discussions...
(also, it's"humanity's")

This next part baffles me:
> will be looked back on by future humans as extremely primitive, similar to the flat earth believe
Presumably (some) ancient people thought the world was flat, but that's not the same as wondering if it's flat.
BTW: Both the ancient Greeks and the ancient Egyptians knew the world was round.

But mostly I'm looking at this:
>Either we will have definitive proof/governmental disclosure regarding the existence of alien life,
>or we will know enough about astronomy and space flight that we can safely say no other life exists in our solar system/galaxy or maybe universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
There's no way these are the only two possibilities. We could build a Galaxy-spanning empire, find no intelligent life anywhere and still be unable to rule out intelligence elsewhere, or even intelligent life that goes unnoticed right under our noses.

Any other thoughts sci?

>>9765942
>the flat earth believe from ancient times
???

>>9766065
Belief*

>>9765942
>Either we will have definitive proof/governmental disclosure regarding the existence of alien life, or we will know enough about astronomy and space flight that we can safely say no other life exists in our solar system/galaxy or maybe universe.
Neither of these are even remotely likely to happen anytime soon. I guess what you're saying is true in a trivial sense, but it's essentially just saying "if you're looking for something, eventually you'll find it or have looked everywhere and not found it". Like wow, no shit.

>uhh if we can't figure stuff out now, later when shit's already figured out people will laugh at us
yeah ok no fucking shit what's the point of your post dude this is some 4th grade level revelation next time keep it to your self thanks

>>9766010
OP is retarded but you are just as retarded if not moreso as you unwittingly support OP’s brainlet statement while trying to trivialize it. In fact, your inability to express yourself concisely reveals your mediocre IQ

>>9766214
[citation needed]

Prrety much this >>9766199
You suck OP

>>9766237
No. It's an interesting thought to ponder.

You're a brainlet if you don't think about this kind of thing.